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Androws

Mafiamaster wrote:

Revived!
Thanks! :)
Senbon
Feel free to take or leave any suggestions. :D

[General]

You have two .osb's. Delete them and full submit.
Background image cannot exceed 1024x768 pixels.
Set a preview time for all the difficulties. They must be at the same time.

[Easy]

00:07:416 (3) - Clap.
00:09:314 (2) - Remove clap.
00:10:074 (3) - Clap and finish don't sound good together.
00:22:606 (6) - New combo.
01:08:935 (2) - Delete.
01:09:125 (3) - Move back to where (2) was.

You need to be consistent with your hit sounds. Have a defined beat in there to get rid of the parts with no hit sounds and eliminate the parts with too much hit sounds. Roxkyuubi's Alchemy shows it.

[Normal]

00:23:365 (8) - Sounds pretty bad. Rid the whistles, and I'm pretty sure you don't need a fast slider like that in a Normal. Doesn't sound too right.
00:24:884 (1) - Remove new combo.
00:25:264 (1) - ^
00:25:644 (1) - ^
00:26:023 (1) - ^
00:26:023 (5) - Add finish.
01:17:479 (x) - Add note and silence like in Easy.

Again with the consistency. Roxkyuubi's Alchemy shows it.

[Hard]

00:00:201 (x) - Spinner like the other difficulties?
00:10:833 (1) - Add finish.
00:11:213 (2) - Remove new combo and line up with (1), as well as the rest of the combo.
00:12:922 (8) - New combo.
00:13:871 (12) - Move forward to red tick.
00:21:276 (x) - Fill in the blanks.
00:22:795 (4) - Move forward to white tick and add a note before and after it. (Specifically on the red ticks)
00:25:074 (4) - New combo.
00:46:530 (9) - New combo.
01:03:808 (9) - Extend to white tick.
01:05:137 (3) - Replace with hit circle.
01:11:593 (1) - Shorten to white tick.
01:17:479 (x) - Add note and silence like in Easy.

Again with the consistency. Roxkyuubi's Alchemy shows it. Also, some of your notes aren't vocally snapped correctly and you leave some blanks with no notes here and there that throws it off.

[ Roxkyuubi's Alchemy]

00:38:175 (1) - Add finish.
01:16:719 (1) - Shorten to red tick.
Topic Starter
Androws

Senbon wrote:

Feel free to take or leave any suggestions. :D

[General]

You have two .osb's. Delete them and full submit. okay
Background image cannot exceed 1024x768 pixels. I'll reduce it
Set a preview time for all the difficulties. They must be at the same time. ok

[Easy]

00:07:416 (3) - Clap. added
00:09:314 (2) - Remove clap. done
00:10:074 (3) - Clap and finish don't sound good together.I removed the clap and kept the finish
00:22:606 (6) - New combo. ok
01:08:935 (2) - Delete. ok
01:09:125 (3) - Move back to where (2) was. done

You need to be consistent with your hit sounds. Have a defined beat in there to get rid of the parts with no hit sounds and eliminate the parts with too much hit sounds. Roxkyuubi's Alchemy shows it. I've to work with that, I don't know very well how to place hitsounds, I'll take a look at the roxkyuubi diff. Also, I was trying to follow the pattern that Garven gave me.

[Normal]

00:23:365 (8) - Sounds pretty bad. Rid the whistles, and I'm pretty sure you don't need a fast slider like that in a Normal. Doesn't sound too right. I made it slower
00:24:884 (1) - Remove new combo. ok
00:25:264 (1) - ^ ok
00:25:644 (1) - ^ ok
00:26:023 (1) - ^ ok
00:26:023 (5) - Add finish. done
01:17:479 (x) - Add note and silence like in Easy. done

Again with the consistency. Roxkyuubi's Alchemy shows it.

[Hard]

00:00:201 (x) - Spinner like the other difficulties? Added
00:10:833 (1) - Add finish. ok
00:11:213 (2) - Remove new combo and line up with (1), as well as the rest of the combo. done
00:12:922 (8) - New combo.done
00:13:871 (12) - Move forward to red tick. ok
00:21:276 (x) - Fill in the blanks. filled!
00:22:795 (4) - Move forward to white tick and add a note before and after it. (Specifically on the red ticks) done
00:25:074 (4) - New combo. done
00:46:530 (9) - New combo. done
01:03:808 (9) - Extend to white tick. done
01:05:137 (3) - Replace with hit circle.ok
01:11:593 (1) - Shorten to white tick.done
01:17:479 (x) - Add note and silence like in Easy.I made the last slider to come back.

Again with the consistency. Roxkyuubi's Alchemy shows it. Also, some of your notes aren't vocally snapped correctly and you leave some blanks with no notes here and there that throws it off. Thanks for the recommendations, I'll try to fix that

[ Roxkyuubi's Alchemy] Roxkyuubi will mod this diff

00:38:175 (1) - Add finish.
01:16:719 (1) - Shorten to red tick.
Thank you so much! :D
Astom
Hi :3

-Usa el mismo kiai time en tus diff.

Em no veo nada malo con la cancion =o, deverias conseguir mod de algun mat para que te afine algun detalle q no aya visto.

Esop, StaR ;3
YGOkid8
General:
- Difficulty spread is currently [E][H][I][I]. Because of new ranking rules, this difficulty spread is unrankable. Turn [H] (which is your Normal diff) into a [N], and it should be fine.
- Video offset in [Roxkyuubi's Alchemy] is different from the other diffs.
- I think it's better if you start Kiai Time@00:41:213 instead

Easy:

Normal Mod~
01:08:935 (2) - Add another return on this slider

Normal:
- Normal... it feels more like Hard IMO :|

Hard, roxkyuubi's Alchemy:
- These two diffs... both their max scores are too similar (only 30,000 points difference)
Here's what I suggest:

- Hard: Increase Circle Size by 1, Decrease Overall Difficulty by 1
- roxkyuubi's Alchemy: Increase HP Drain Rate + Overall Difficulty by 1

This will increase the point gap between the two diffs.
Kecco
•Roxkyuubi's Alchemy•
00:04:757 (1) - Bad jump.

•Androws•
00:03:998 (1) - Bad jump.
00:22:226 (1) - ^
00:29:441 - Add in here a hitcircle with clap? It's just a suggestion, anyway it's more catchy.
00:33:998 (6) - Add a clap.
01:07:795 (1,2) - Fix their position.

All is ok for other diffs~
Nice song~
Good map~
Star~!
TTTTTTTTTTTT
Easy
00:26:023 (x) - add note with finish hitsound imo

Normal

it's fine,but if you wanna reduce star rating..
i have some suggestions


HP Drain Rate +2 left
Overall Difficult + 3 left


00:01:720(x) - add note
00:02:099(1) - use a slider end at 00:02:289 and +1 repeat to replace 3 notes (Start:clap End:whistle)
00:02:859(1) - ^(End:whistle)
00:03:618(1) - ^(Start:clap End:whistle)
00:04:568(2) - del note
00:04:757(1) - use a slider end at 00:05:137 to repalce 3 notes(Start:whistle End:clap)
00:05:327(2) - add whistle at end
00:05:897(3) - del note
00:06:087(4) - add whistle
00:12:352(4) - del note
00:13:112(6) - use a slider end at 00:13:871
00:14:251(x) - add note
00:14:821(2) - del note
00:15:390(4) - use a slider end at 00:15:770(add whistle at the begin)
00:16:720(7) - move to right white line or del it
00:18:428(4) - del note
00:19:188(6) - use a slider end at 00:19:947 to replace 2 notes
00:23:175(7) - del note
00:23:365(7) - use a slider end at 00:23:745 and add whistle at the begin
00:24:884(2) - use a circle and add clap to repalce slider
00:25:644(4) - ^
00:27:542(4) - del note
00:27:732(x) - add note
00:30:011(2) - del note
00:30:390(4) - move to right white line
00:30:770(5) - del slider
00:30:960(x) - add note with whistle
00:31:340(x) - add note
00:32:099(3) - use a circle
00:32:479(x) - add note with whistle
00:35:897(1) - use a slider end at 00:36:276 to replace 3 notes
00:37:795(1) - use a slider end at 00:37:985 to replace 2 notes
00:46:530(1) - use a slider end at 00:46:720 to replace 2 notes
00:46:909(3) - use a slider end at 00:47:099 to replace 2 notes
00:48:049(1) - use a slider end at 00:48:238 to replace 2 notes
00:48:428(3) - use a slider end at 00:48:618 to replace 2 notes (neednt add whistle at the begin)
00:56:403(3) - use a slider end at 00:56:783 to replace 2 notes (End:clap)
00:56:976(5) - use a slider end at 00:57:352 to replace 2 notes (End:whistle)
01:03:988(5) - use a slider end at 01:05:378(Start:whistle)

Hard
00:26:023(x) - add note with finish

Roxkyuubi's Alchemy
Nice~

Starrr~
Topic Starter
Androws

Astom wrote:

Hi :3

-Usa el mismo kiai time en tus diff. Hecho

Em no veo nada malo con la cancion =o, deverias conseguir mod de algun mat para que te afine algun detalle q no aya visto.

Esop, StaR ;3
Gracias! ^^

YGOkid8 wrote:

General:
- Difficulty spread is currently [E][H][I]. Because of new ranking rules, this difficulty spread is unrankable. Turn [H] (which is your Normal diff) into a [N], and it should be fine.
- Video offset in [Roxkyuubi's Alchemy] is different from the other diffs. Fixed
- I think it's better if you start Kiai Time@00:41:213 instead ok

Easy:

Normal Mod~
01:08:935 (2) - Add another return on this slider done

Normal:
- Normal... it feels more like Hard IMO :| I reduced its difficulty

Hard, roxkyuubi's Alchemy:
- These two diffs... both their max scores are too similar (only 30,000 points difference)
Here's what I suggest:

- Hard: Increase Circle Size by 1, Decrease Overall Difficulty by 1 I decreased the overall diff by 1 but I kept the same circle size because max score doesnt change and I don't like very small circles D:
- roxkyuubi's Alchemy: Increase HP Drain Rate + Overall Difficulty by 1 I kept the same HP drain rate and increased the overall diff.

This will increase the point gap between the two diffs.
Thanks! ^^

Kecco wrote:

•Roxkyuubi's Alchemy•
00:04:757 (1) - Bad jump.

•Androws• What diff are you talking about? D:
00:03:998 (1) - Bad jump.
00:22:226 (1) - ^
00:29:441 - Add in here a hitcircle with clap? It's just a suggestion, anyway it's more catchy.
00:33:998 (6) - Add a clap.
01:07:795 (1,2) - Fix their position.

All is ok for other diffs~
Nice song~
Good map~
Star~!
Thanks! :D

H-boy wrote:

Easy
00:26:023 (x) - add note with finish hitsound imo Added

Normal

it's fine,but if you wanna reduce star rating..
i have some suggestions
Yes I wanted to, and you helped me a lot, thanks :)

HP Drain Rate +2 left
Overall Difficult + 3 left


00:01:720(x) - add note done
00:02:099(1) - use a slider end at 00:02:289 and +1 repeat to replace 3 notes (Start:clap End:whistle) done
00:02:859(1) - ^(End:whistle) done
00:03:618(1) - ^(Start:clap End:whistle) done
00:04:568(2) - del note done
00:04:757(1) - use a slider end at 00:05:137 to repalce 3 notes(Start:whistle End:clap) done
00:05:327(2) - add whistle at end done
00:05:897(3) - del note done
00:06:087(4) - add whistle done
00:12:352(4) - del note
00:13:112(6) - use a slider end at 00:13:871 done
00:14:251(x) - add note done
00:14:821(2) - del note done
00:15:390(4) - use a slider end at 00:15:770(add whistle at the begin) done
00:16:720(7) - move to right white line or del it done
00:18:428(4) - del note
00:19:188(6) - use a slider end at 00:19:947 to replace 2 notes done
00:23:175(7) - del note done
00:23:365(7) - use a slider end at 00:23:745 and add whistle at the begin done
00:24:884(2) - use a circle and add clap to repalce slider done
00:25:644(4) - ^ done
00:27:542(4) - del note done
00:27:732(x) - add note done
00:30:011(2) - del note done
00:30:390(4) - move to right white line done
00:30:770(5) - del slider I removed the old but added a new one on 00:30:960 without return
00:30:960(x) - add note with whistle done
00:31:340(x) - add note done
00:32:099(3) - use a circle done
00:32:479(x) - add note with whistle done
00:35:897(1) - use a slider end at 00:36:276 to replace 3 notes done
00:37:795(1) - use a slider end at 00:37:985 to replace 2 notes done
00:46:530(1) - use a slider end at 00:46:720 to replace 2 notes done
00:46:909(3) - use a slider end at 00:47:099 to replace 2 notes done
00:48:049(1) - use a slider end at 00:48:238 to replace 2 notes done
00:48:428(3) - use a slider end at 00:48:618 to replace 2 notes (neednt add whistle at the begin) done
00:56:403(3) - use a slider end at 00:56:783 to replace 2 notes (End:clap) done
00:56:976(5) - use a slider end at 00:57:352 to replace 2 notes (End:whistle) done
01:03:988(5) - use a slider end at 01:05:378(Start:whistle) I think it's not necessary

Hard
00:26:023(x) - add note with finish Added

Roxkyuubi's Alchemy
Nice~

Starrr~
Thank you so much! :)
YGOkid8

YGOkid8 wrote:

Hard, roxkyuubi's Alchemy:
- Hard: Increase Circle Size by 1, Decrease Overall Difficulty by 1
Note: Increase Circle Size, not Decrease :(
Shulin
General:

-- BG image is too big, resize so it's 1024 x 768 or under.
-- You have two .osb files, delete both and full submit.
-- Timing feels off, might just be me (was lagging D:)
-- Add Roxkyuubi to tags.

Easy:

-- Slider velocity is a bit fast for an Easy.

00:18:820 (5) - Don't clap the whole slider.
00:29:263 (5) - Red tick might be tricky for easy.
00:52:618 (1) - Goes too far left on screen, you might want to consider a spinner instead of an excessively long sliders.
00:55:656 (1) - Rather ugly shape, maybe make it more curved?
01:03:618 (3) - Spacing too close.

Normal:

00:04:378 (1) - No huge jumps on Normal please.
00:11:213 (1) - Don't recommend jumps on normals.
00:26:403 (1) - ^
00:38:745 (x) - Note.
01:13:112 (4) - Move back to the red tick? (Sounds weird atm)
01:16:720 (1,2,3) - Use sliders, hard notes for normal.

Hard:

-- Raise overall difficulty by 1 tick.

00:25:074 (1) - Bit too close to the previous note.

Roxkyuubi's Alchemy

01:16:719 (1) - Silence end, maybe start earlier.
Topic Starter
Androws

YGOkid8 wrote:

YGOkid8 wrote:

Hard, roxkyuubi's Alchemy:
- Hard: Increase Circle Size by 1, Decrease Overall Difficulty by 1
Note: Increase Circle Size, not Decrease :(
Sorry! Fixed!

Shulin wrote:

General:

-- BG image is too big, resize so it's 1024 x 768 or under. This was fixed some time ago (I mean that when you posted this was already fixed)
-- You have two .osb files, delete both and full submit. ^
-- Timing feels off, might just be me (was lagging D:) D: I think it's ok
-- Add Roxkyuubi to tags. done

Easy:

-- Slider velocity is a bit fast for an Easy.

00:18:820 (5) - Don't clap the whole slider. fixed
00:29:263 (5) - Red tick might be tricky for easy. ok
00:52:618 (1) - Goes too far left on screen, you might want to consider a spinner instead of an excessively long sliders.mm yes a spinner is ok
00:55:656 (1) - Rather ugly shape, maybe make it more curved? ok
01:03:618 (3) - Spacing too close.fixed

Normal: all fixed

00:04:378 (1) - No huge jumps on Normal please.
00:11:213 (1) - Don't recommend jumps on normals.
00:26:403 (1) - ^
00:38:745 (x) - Note.
01:13:112 (4) - Move back to the red tick? (Sounds weird atm)
01:16:720 (1,2,3) - Use sliders, hard notes for normal.

Hard:

-- Raise overall difficulty by 1 tick. I decrease it because YGOkid8 recommended it. Should I increase it now?

00:25:074 (1) - Bit too close to the previous note. fixed

Roxkyuubi's Alchemy

01:16:719 (1) - Silence end, maybe start earlier. ok
Thanks!
Colin Hou
[Easy]:
  1. slider velocity 1.4 is too fast for an [E] diff. turn it down to 1.0 and check all your sliders then. (use distance spacing x1.1)
  2. 00:32:859 (2,3,4,6) - clap
[Normal]:
  1. 00:20:137 (T) - add a note
  2. 00:27:352 (T) - ^
  3. 00:37:606 (T) - ^
[Hard]:
  1. 00:08:935 (1,2,3,4) - remap this part. **suggest:move these notes to 00:09:314 then add notes at 00:08:745, 00:09:125, 00:10:264, 00:10:454.
  2. 00:45:390 (8) - add a back
[Roxkyuubi's Alchemy]:
  1. Quite good.
star~

you can try to improve your hitsound by checking how Roxkyuubi use it. it's difficult for a new mapper but important to learn how to handle hitsounds.

good luck~
DJPop
Error occurred after submission, please resubmit again.
Vikon
[General]
I Don't know why I downloaded the lastest version, but still can't update to the lastest version ... are there some problems with my computer?
The audio is a bit too loud for me...may be 70% is enough?
It would look better if you make the slider more rounded or symmetric. (not inculding those straight slider)

[Easy]
00:29:441 (5) it hurts the HP bar, try to pull it down.
00:43:492 (1) make a more rounded slider? would look better.
00:44:631 (2) more symmetric?
--------------------------------------
try this hitsound pattern?
01:01:720 (2) add clap here
01:02:859 (2) remove the clap on the beginning of slider
01:03:998 (4) add clap or finish
you may consider to use this pattern on 01:04757 to 01:10:074 ~ just suggestion.
--------------------------------------
01:07:036 (4) symmetric?
01:10:833 (1) ....symmetric plz..

[Normal]
00:27:163 (3) you miss a clap here?
00:34:757 (8) ^
00:36:276 (1) ^
01:05:517 (3) symmetric?
01:08:555 (3) ^

[Hard]
00:08:935 (1) move it to 00:08:745
00:09:694 (x) add a note here
00:09:884 (X) ^
00:10:264 (X) ^
... it is better to use clap on every 2 1/1 notes instead of every 4 1/1notes
so.
00:05:897 (4) add clap
00:07:416 (6) ^
00:11:973 (4) ^
00:13:492 (4) ^
and on and on and on....
-----------------------------
try this hitsound pattern?
00:54:884 (4) add clap
00:55:264 (4) remove clap
00:56:023 (2) clap
00:56:783 (1) remove clap
00:57:542 (3) clap
00:57:922 (4) clap or finish
also try in the next part?
-----------------------------

[Roxkyuubi's Alchemy]
01:07:795 (1,6) they hurt the HP bar, try to pull it back.

STAR
Topic Starter
Androws

Colin Hou wrote:

[Easy]:
  1. slider velocity 1.4 is too fast for an [E] diff. turn it down to 1.0 and check all your sliders then. (use distance spacing x1.1) changed
  2. 00:32:859 (2,3,4,6) - clap done
[Normal]:
  1. 00:20:137 (T) - add a note It doesnt sound very well
  2. 00:27:352 (T) - ^ ok
  3. 00:37:606 (T) - ^ ok
[Hard]:
  1. 00:08:935 (1,2,3,4) - remap this part. **suggest:move these notes to 00:09:314 then add notes at 00:08:745, 00:09:125, 00:10:264, 00:10:454. done
  2. 00:45:390 (8) - add a back done
[Roxkyuubi's Alchemy]:
  1. Quite good.
star~

you can try to improve your hitsound by checking how Roxkyuubi use it. it's difficult for a new mapper but important to learn how to handle hitsounds. I revised all the hitsounds and applied the tips you told me.

good luck~
Thank you so much! ^^

Vikon wrote:

[General]
I Don't know why I downloaded the lastest version, but still can't update to the lastest version ... are there some problems with my computer? There was a problem with the submission
The audio is a bit too loud for me...may be 70% is enough? ok, I changed it
It would look better if you make the slider more rounded or symmetric. (not inculding those straight slider)

[Easy]
00:29:441 (5) it hurts the HP bar, try to pull it down. ok
00:43:492 (1) make a more rounded slider? would look better. done
00:44:631 (2) more symmetric? done
--------------------------------------
try this hitsound pattern? changed
01:01:720 (2) add clap here
01:02:859 (2) remove the clap on the beginning of slider
01:03:998 (4) add clap or finish
you may consider to use this pattern on 01:04757 to 01:10:074 ~ just suggestion.
--------------------------------------
01:07:036 (4) symmetric?
01:10:833 (1) ....symmetric plz.. ok

[Normal] hitsounds fixed
00:27:163 (3) you miss a clap here?
00:34:757 (8) ^
00:36:276 (1) ^
01:05:517 (3) symmetric?
01:08:555 (3) ^ I like these two sliders how they are

[Hard]
00:08:935 (1) move it to 00:08:745 fixed
00:09:694 (x) add a note here fixed
00:09:884 (X) ^ fixed
00:10:264 (X) ^ fixed
... it is better to use clap on every 2 1/1 notes instead of every 4 1/1notes
so.
00:05:897 (4) add clap hitsounds revised
00:07:416 (6) ^
00:11:973 (4) ^
00:13:492 (4) ^
and on and on and on....
-----------------------------
try this hitsound pattern? hitsounds revised
00:54:884 (4) add clap
00:55:264 (4) remove clap
00:56:023 (2) clap
00:56:783 (1) remove clap
00:57:542 (3) clap
00:57:922 (4) clap or finish
also try in the next part?
-----------------------------

[Roxkyuubi's Alchemy]
01:07:795 (1,6) they hurt the HP bar, try to pull it back.

STAR
Thanks! :)

DJPop wrote:

Error occurred after submission, please resubmit again.
I dont know why D:, but now it's fixed.
DJPop
~Easy~
00:40:454 (1,2) - delete
00:41:213 (3) - add hitfinish at start
01:16:720 (1) - no repeat, end on left red tick

~Normal~
Fine.

~Hard~
Hard to follow the rhythm imo...
00:39:789 (2,4) - delete, not fit
01:07:795 (1) - move the start right 1 grid (Lv3)

~Roxkyuubi's Alchemy~
00:39:694 (1,2,3) - add whistles and hitfinishes
00:40:264 (1,2,3,4,5) - lower the volume a bit (OR) use soft-hitsounds
00:52:416 (9) - use normal-hitsound
01:16:719 (1) - completely silence it


+Star
Zetsubou Sensei
FMA! ...Nana Kitade, such a great singer

[Hard]
01:09:694 (7) - extend slider to end at 01:10:454 (just a suggestion)

[Roxkyuubi's Alchemy]
00:57:732 (6) - shorten this slider to end at 00:57:922 (sounds better to me...just check it out to be sure)
01:03:808 (6) - ^ same thing...just double check it

Great map !

~STAR
Topic Starter
Androws

DJPop wrote:

~Easy~
00:40:454 (1,2) - delete ok
00:41:213 (3) - add hitfinish at start ok
01:16:720 (1) - no repeat, end on left red tick ok

~Normal~
Fine.

~Hard~
Hard to follow the rhythm imo... I don' know how to fix it... D:
00:39:789 (2,4) - delete, not fit ok
01:07:795 (1) - move the start right 1 grid (Lv3) I dont understand this.

~Roxkyuubi's Alchemy~ Roxkyuubi will edit their diff.
00:39:694 (1,2,3) - add whistles and hitfinishes
00:40:264 (1,2,3,4,5) - lower the volume a bit (OR) use soft-hitsounds
00:52:416 (9) - use normal-hitsound
01:16:719 (1) - completely silence it


+Star

Zetsubou Sensei wrote:

FMA! ...Nana Kitade, such a great singer

[Hard]
01:09:694 (7) - extend slider to end at 01:10:454 (just a suggestion) ok

[Roxkyuubi's Alchemy] Roxkyuubi will edit their diff.
00:57:732 (6) - shorten this slider to end at 00:57:922 (sounds better to me...just check it out to be sure)
01:03:808 (6) - ^ same thing...just double check it

Great map !

~STAR
Thank you! :)
DJPop

Androws wrote:

DJPop wrote:

~Hard~
01:07:795 (1) - move the start right 1 grid (Lv3) I dont understand this.
Move the slider's start point to the right 1 gird, using "Tiny" grid snap.
Solidsk13
hope this get ranked. this is a grate beatmap :)
Felixiano_old
oye no puedo descargar el beat map :( :( :( por que
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