Haneii wrote:
How?- Magic Bomb - wrote:
That argument just seemed like a scum arguing with a town.
Haneii wrote:
How?- Magic Bomb - wrote:
That argument just seemed like a scum arguing with a town.
Amianki and Drezi have been prodded!Setsuen wrote:
@Mod:Prod Amianki and drezi
- Magic Bomb - wrote:
That argument just seemed like a scum arguing with a town.
Not sure?- Magic Bomb - wrote:
I'm not sure, it's just my gut feeling.Haneii wrote:
How?
Please give a reason.- Magic Bomb - wrote:
I'm like, 99% sure that either Amianki or slaini is scum.
Drezi wrote:
yeah im here, tbh I got quite pissed off at Jess flipping scum yet again, i'm so sick of having to deal with her shit every single game, and she won't stop joining games...
I don't think it's unfeasible that notsci had been bussing bussing Jess after both of them got close to a lynch last day, it'd make sense so that one of them gains a lot better position next day, but well it's not a scenario I'd be pushing unless the game doesn't seem to make sense otherwise later on.
I'd probably need to reread stuff but I don't really have a town feeling of sLaiNi's doing this game overall. It'd be nice to get more out of the day instead of a single wagon, but in this game it's already an accomplishment when we can actually agree to wagon and possibly lynch a single person, and I'm fine with a sLaiNi lynch..
Also note that sLaiNi had not claimed sounds at all afaik, while he should have confirmed that notsci/Ace had been silent simply to give us more info and confirm they aren't lying about hearing stuff etc.
You're getting unlogical there.Drezi wrote:
yeah im here, tbh I got quite pissed off at Jess flipping scum yet again, i'm so sick of having to deal with her shit every single game, and she won't stop joining games...
I don't think it's unfeasible that notsci had been bussing bussing Jess after both of them got close to a lynch last day, it'd make sense so that one of them gains a lot better position next day, but well it's not a scenario I'd be pushing unless the game doesn't seem to make sense otherwise later on.
I'd probably need to reread stuff but I don't really have a town feeling of sLaiNi's doing this game overall. It'd be nice to get more out of the day instead of a single wagon, but in this game it's already an accomplishment when we can actually agree to wagon and possibly lynch a single person, and I'm fine with a sLaiNi lynch..
Also note that sLaiNi had not claimed sounds at all afaik, while he should have confirmed that notsci/Ace had been silent simply to give us more info and confirm they aren't lying about hearing stuff etc.
I'm not sure of why I feel like it's scum and town arguing, it's just my gut feeling, however I am sure that my gut is right here (though tbh I was also sure my gut was right with Frostings, so that might not be the best judge, and my reads aren't exactly known for being the best).Haneii wrote:
- Magic Bomb - wrote:
That argument just seemed like a scum arguing with a town.Not sure?- Magic Bomb - wrote:
How?
I'm not sure, it's just my gut feeling.Please give a reason.- Magic Bomb - wrote:
I'm like, 99% sure that either Amianki or slaini is scum.
You came back from your prodding just to respond with a one sentence answer and then go back to lurking?Amianki wrote:
I'm not claiming sounds.
Yes, I checked in at work and posted an answer to an immediate issue that was unresolved in the thread, then spent the next hour working/walking home.Setsuen wrote:
You came back from your prodding just to respond with a one sentence answer and then go back to lurking?Amianki wrote:
I'm not claiming sounds.
I don't think you could have phrased this in a way that makes any less sense. That takes talent.Setsuen wrote:
slani refusing to tell us about possible sound she heard is like jess refusing to speak much.
Why exactly? When this could help for myself to know if I was targeted by a distrating role?Amianki wrote:
I'm not claiming sounds.
You don't want or you can't? ^^Amianki wrote:
I don't feel like revealing whether I heard any or not. Feel free to speculate if you care enough.
You know pretty well why.Drezi wrote:
Why don't you claim your sounds slaiini??
Edited for politeness.Ace Timing wrote:
No one here is psychic, be clear and please answer the question
So I heard sounds from above AND below, and for myself I did not take any actions.Sakura wrote:
[-VACANT-]
[Amianki]
[Ace Timing]
[sLaiNi]
[notscience]
[-VACANT-]
Yes, and below.Haneii wrote:
Are you saying you heard a sound coming from above you?
Also you forget that Ace most likely did take an action. He did not mention my sounds until NS did and he never said anything about Amiankis sounds.Drezi wrote:
oh yeah you're town and you thought it's a good idea to just keep quiet about hearing sounds from two people who supposedly TOOK NO ACTION since they both heard you. because NOW you're concerned about our doctor, after requesting mass sound claims last day for no reason.
And all this time I was waiting for answers on questions to Ace and Amianki, which where rather important for my conclusion. It's not like I did nothing the whole time, or something which would not connect to the other things I did. I asked Amianki and Ace to get the informations regarding the sounds they heard (and they acted like I expected it, so they did not hear the correct sounds) and I asked Haneii if he targeted someone else (this was important, as every action would create 2 sounds and I was about the Amianki/Ace/Slaini/NS sound combination (4sounds = 2 actions taken) and I was somehow thinking that I read somewhere that Haneii did an action, which would've denied my conclusion, as I would've had to expect him to create one of those sounds.Drezi wrote:
and I'm not twisting anything I said "supposedly" since they claimed hearing sounds from you, and you somehow felt that you don't need to share possibly contradicting information..
The same reason he first pushed the Jess lynch with reasons like "Town wouldn't need her anyway" and then take a step back and say "Scum will get rid of her" (while she was scum herself and scum wouldn't have done it either way)Ace Timing wrote:
@slaini if Drezi was scum why would he push me so hard D1?
And what reason is that?sLaiNi wrote:
The same reason he first pushed the Jess lynch with reasons like "Town wouldn't need her anyway" and then take a step back and say "Scum will get rid of her" (while she was scum herself and scum wouldn't have done it either way)Ace Timing wrote:
@slaini if Drezi was scum why would he push me so hard D1?
By this same logic, we could ask everyone in the game if they're town and we wouldn't have any scum since everyone would say yes.Ace Timing wrote:
Also, the idea that Drezi is trying to find doc is hilarious, as he just not too long ago said that doctor speculation is anti-town.
Wait, Ace did?Drezi wrote:
yeah, that doesn't mean I couldn't be trying to fish for a doc at the same time despite saying that, but it's obviously not the case. both ace and notsci have already claimed hearing slaini, so they obviously don't need slaini's discretion wrt to their sounds.
You did not hear sounds. If you were targeted instead of taking actions you would've heard them.Ace Timing wrote:
Also, who's to say I wasn't protected last night? Scum could've tried to kill me and mislynch either you or haneii because my town flip would imply one of you two being scum. A doctor could've suspected this and protected me.
BussingAce Timing wrote:
And what reason is that?
Amianki wrote:
Wait, Ace did?Drezi wrote:
yeah, that doesn't mean I couldn't be trying to fish for a doc at the same time despite saying that, but it's obviously not the case. both ace and notsci have already claimed hearing slaini, so they obviously don't need slaini's discretion wrt to their sounds.
^Just the target, not the role, if there was any confusion.Amianki wrote:
If there is any town that targeted either notscience or sLaiNi, they should claim.
1. So if I don't tell you I heard sounds, I automatically didn't hear them?sLaiNi wrote:
You did not hear sounds. If you were targeted instead of taking actions you would've heard them.Ace Timing wrote:
Also, who's to say I wasn't protected last night? Scum could've tried to kill me and mislynch either you or haneii because my town flip would imply one of you two being scum. A doctor could've suspected this and protected me.BussingAce Timing wrote:
And what reason is that?
Ace Timing wrote:
1. So if I don't tell you I heard sounds, I automatically didn't hear them?
2. No one busses D1. It's really stupid to do so.
3. If I was scum, why would I mislynch you? If I did that, I would get turbo lynched the next day. People town read haneii more than me, and it would be optimal to leave all double voters alive.
The thing is that you were quite ready to state what you supposedly heard after NS said I made sounds.Ace Timing wrote:
1. So if I don't tell you I heard sounds, I automatically didn't hear them?
And then again you don't tell us about Amianki's sounds.Ace Timing wrote:
Yeah I heard sounds, but that doesn't immediately indicate he's scum, he could've been healed by doc or something like that.
What I was talking about is "Distancing", I chose the wrong word there, my fault.Ace Timing wrote:
2. No one busses D1. It's really stupid to do so.
Because that was a valid reasoning there, which even I did not notice right away. Then again I fully trusted her last game, because he tried to save me from getting lynched and he could try to make use of my meta there.Drezi wrote:
noise from slaini -> no kill tonight -> "we prob don't have a doc, so I vote him" ??
The thing is, you did not start that wagon on me. Noone would blame you for it, you could just go with "He made sounds" and try to shift the responsibility on that to NS for starting the wagon.Ace Timing wrote:
3. If I was scum, why would I mislynch you? If I did that, I would get turbo lynched the next day. People town read haneii more than me, and it would be optimal to leave all double voters alive.
I don't see myself doctorfishing at any point. I just pointed out that there is most likely one that targeted either you or me (rather you, I don't really see any reason to protect me after yesterday) and used this for my conclusion. There is no point where I even asked for a doctorclaim or anything, whereever you are pulling this from.notscience wrote:
Because I could see scum-slaini shooting me because I looked pretty town after yesterday as well as being adjacent to him as a plausible theory, only to find a nokill coming into today, and this opens up plenty of opportunity to out a doctor to direct for his buddy.
Scum don't always have to kill. You're ignoring a scenario where scum could have targeted one of you (ie: investigator/tracker/role blocker etc) while the doctor targets the other.notscience wrote:
B) Both of us did nothing and are telling the ttruth, one was targetted by a doctor and scum and the other was targetted by some random thing?
I'm willing to pay that price for a scum lynch.notscience wrote:
even if you just claim the target, if someone claims to have targetted person x that the kill didn't go through on, then what do you think scum will do.
Setsuen has been prodded!Amianki wrote:
Prod Setsuen
If this was the cause shouldn't you suspect drezi since NO ONE can hear if he did any action at all?Raging Bull wrote:
Hey everyone, Why would scum slaini target someone after that lynch on jess d3? The only thing I can really think of is if he was targetted to shift blame on him. I find it highly unlikely given the fact if slaini is scum, then scum would make slaini kill, especially after NS heard sound from Jess.
@NS, why Slaini over AT when slaini heard sound from above him too?
Vote:Ace
Well you don't have to vote, but I will almost definitely put you very high on my scumread list if you don't. Seems to me if you don't you're trying to hide something, for example a doublevote you can then pretend you "didn't know you had", or something like that.Haneii wrote:
I do feel a bit uneasy voting now, though (ie: bold name/top scum read asking me to vote). Should I? I do want to see a claim a day or so before dl.