If the finalists are provided with an instrumental, it wouldn't be too hard to put the song in the key that fits their vocal range the best.
Exactly, and we could see 3 different versions of the song at onceCptHampton wrote:
If the finalists are provided with an instrumental, it wouldn't be too hard to put the song in the key that fits their vocal range the best.
True, but there are those songs that if you put it juste a little bit too high, it starts to sound like a chipmunk instrumental, not very interesting.......CptHampton wrote:
If the finalists are provided with an instrumental, it wouldn't be too hard to put the song in the key that fits their vocal range the best.
No it's hard. Changing your vocals in accordance to how you changed the keys of a song is harder than it seems. You would sing it by ear now since it's different than the original.CptHampton wrote:
If the finalists are provided with an instrumental, it wouldn't be too hard to put the song in the key that fits their vocal range the best.
I'm naturally used to it :'P That aside, you can also change the pitch of the original song (noting you have the mp3 of it) and sing along~Jazz wrote:
No it's hard. Changing your vocals in accordance to how you changed the keys of a song is harder than it seems. You would sing it by ear now since it's different than the original.
That amount of effort should just be used to choose your own song.
agreeHard wrote:
I want the judges to choose.
Maybe just give options or a song pool for different vocal ranges, an alto a mezzo ans soprano
I really like your idea, seems the best so far.Hard wrote:
I want the judges to choose.
Maybe just give options or a song pool for different vocal ranges, an alto a mezzo ans soprano
^This and similar said before.Garven wrote:
Id just leave it to contestant choice. Besides the pitch arguments earlier, you also have to factor in the language being sung. I sure as heck wouldnt want to sing a Mandarin song for fear of poor pronunciation.
Garven wrote:
Id just leave it to contestant choice. Besides the pitch arguments earlier, you also have to factor in the language being sung. I sure as heck wouldnt want to sing a Mandarin song for fear of poor pronunciation.
I agree with both.Hard wrote:
I want the judges to choose.
Maybe just give options or a song pool for different vocal ranges, an alto a mezzo ans soprano
4 spaces left boysLoliFlan wrote:
Anyway, if everything goes well, judging should be complete tomorrow!
You are TOTALLY overthinking it.............. This is not a competition for 1000000$................... I'm sure you destroyed your hand on the keyboard to write this whole novel..... Ok, contest fanatic fanfic, fits more.Boss wrote:
SPOILEROk now, here's the problem as a person who lives in a country which has nothing more than voice and talent shows on TV, I've seen some different concepts of competition. First of all: If you are going to make them sing one pre-chosen song as Jazz said it would not be the best idea to show their talents. Though, if you let them choose their songs, it would be a huge mess. Why? Think about it all those different genres of music had to be compared. It's like choosing between an FPS game and a Platform one or a car and a motorcycle. There would be no actual winners there would just be a more liked music, not because of the singer itself but because of the music and it's emotional effect it would have on us (which is a music's main purpose in the first place) that has been chosen by the singer. Yes, they chose them themselves and they would have thought about the consequences and whether it would affect us emotionally or not but, please, this is a singing contest not a chess championship that you have to think 10 steps ahead. Maybe there would be a pool to choose songs from as Hard suggested but this also has a real big chance to not coincide with what Garven said. So the songs which will be in the pool have to be chosen really carefully and all the contestants should be informed about all the songs in the pool in order to prevent them from screwing up in the last minute. So here's my first idea out of two (which would be a lot better if both were implemented): You choose three songs for each contestant for the pool which is one in their mother tongue, one in a universal language (could be English/Japanese/Korean/Mandarin etc.) and one of their preference between the two listed before. The second thing that should be taken into consideration is again the genres. There is a theoretically simple yet might be a little hard to do in practice kind of solution to this issue. How about we split the Osu!idol finals into different genres and gave prizes according to them. Just spiting them up would be nonsense but let's say that there are three kind of genres left in the finals for each contestant: A, B and C. Everyone sings in their own genre and everything's good to go right? Well, no, sadly. This again triggers the more liked genre vs winner genre problem which can be dealt with a little effort from both the contestants and the judges. Let all of them sing all the genres. Like, A person sings both A, B and C genres; B person sings both A, B and C and vice versa. After all of them are reviewed by the judges we would see if the A person is stronger than the B one in both the A and B or just stronger in it's own genre, this way they would be compared equally in a musical way, not as separately in a "pop" or "rock" or "hip-hop" way. (I'm pretty sure I couldn't explain myself clear enough though.) Also a little P.S. This is just an idea. It's not that I think judges would not evaluate the performances right or anything. What if the people were allowed to vote for their favorite singer? I know this would cause so much trouble so I suggest accepting only non-friends' votes. Also to prevent what I call "counter-voting" also the friends of a contestant should not be allowed to vote for another contestant in anyway. Thus, the only people who vote would be the ones who don't know anything about the singers. Also the votes of non-judge voters should be evaluated as 25% of the judges'. So this way judges have still a way of judging. I think that's all.Many thanks to everyone who made such event possible and good luck with it. Hope to see things like this evolve to bigger ones or open the gates to many others in the future.
I got through 3 lines and stopped. I congratulate you tho for reading the whole thing.LightDreamer wrote:
You are TOTALLY overthinking it.............. This is not a competition for 1000000$................... I'm sure you destroyed your hand on the keyboard to write this whole novel..... Ok, contest fanatic fanfic, fits more.Boss wrote:
SPOILEROk now, here's the problem as a person who lives in a country which has nothing more than voice and talent shows on TV, I've seen some different concepts of competition. First of all: If you are going to make them sing one pre-chosen song as Jazz said it would not be the best idea to show their talents. Though, if you let them choose their songs, it would be a huge mess. Why? Think about it all those different genres of music had to be compared. It's like choosing between an FPS game and a Platform one or a car and a motorcycle. There would be no actual winners there would just be a more liked music, not because of the singer itself but because of the music and it's emotional effect it would have on us (which is a music's main purpose in the first place) that has been chosen by the singer. Yes, they chose them themselves and they would have thought about the consequences and whether it would affect us emotionally or not but, please, this is a singing contest not a chess championship that you have to think 10 steps ahead. Maybe there would be a pool to choose songs from as Hard suggested but this also has a real big chance to not coincide with what Garven said. So the songs which will be in the pool have to be chosen really carefully and all the contestants should be informed about all the songs in the pool in order to prevent them from screwing up in the last minute. So here's my first idea out of two (which would be a lot better if both were implemented): You choose three songs for each contestant for the pool which is one in their mother tongue, one in a universal language (could be English/Japanese/Korean/Mandarin etc.) and one of their preference between the two listed before. The second thing that should be taken into consideration is again the genres. There is a theoretically simple yet might be a little hard to do in practice kind of solution to this issue. How about we split the Osu!idol finals into different genres and gave prizes according to them. Just spiting them up would be nonsense but let's say that there are three kind of genres left in the finals for each contestant: A, B and C. Everyone sings in their own genre and everything's good to go right? Well, no, sadly. This again triggers the more liked genre vs winner genre problem which can be dealt with a little effort from both the contestants and the judges. Let all of them sing all the genres. Like, A person sings both A, B and C genres; B person sings both A, B and C and vice versa. After all of them are reviewed by the judges we would see if the A person is stronger than the B one in both the A and B or just stronger in it's own genre, this way they would be compared equally in a musical way, not as separately in a "pop" or "rock" or "hip-hop" way. (I'm pretty sure I couldn't explain myself clear enough though.) Also a little P.S. This is just an idea. It's not that I think judges would not evaluate the performances right or anything. What if the people were allowed to vote for their favorite singer? I know this would cause so much trouble so I suggest accepting only non-friends' votes. Also to prevent what I call "counter-voting" also the friends of a contestant should not be allowed to vote for another contestant in anyway. Thus, the only people who vote would be the ones who don't know anything about the singers. Also the votes of non-judge voters should be evaluated as 25% of the judges'. So this way judges have still a way of judging. I think that's all.Many thanks to everyone who made such event possible and good luck with it. Hope to see things like this evolve to bigger ones or open the gates to many others in the future.
I just thought that if I'm writing something, it actually had to matter for something, so I decided to write long. Yeah I'm aware of the fact that I am overthinking, it's just that I wanted everything to be perfect and I know that nothing could and should be perfect. It's not that I've written that because it was a $1000000 competition, I wrote it because I wanted to.LightDreamer wrote:
You are TOTALLY overthinking it.............. This is not a competition for 1000000$................... I'm sure you destroyed your hand on the keyboard to write this whole novel..... Ok, contest fanatic fanfic, fits more.Boss wrote:
SPOILEROk now, here's the problem as a person who lives in a country which has nothing more than voice and talent shows on TV, I've seen some different concepts of competition. First of all: If you are going to make them sing one pre-chosen song as Jazz said it would not be the best idea to show their talents. Though, if you let them choose their songs, it would be a huge mess. Why? Think about it all those different genres of music had to be compared. It's like choosing between an FPS game and a Platform one or a car and a motorcycle. There would be no actual winners there would just be a more liked music, not because of the singer itself but because of the music and it's emotional effect it would have on us (which is a music's main purpose in the first place) that has been chosen by the singer. Yes, they chose them themselves and they would have thought about the consequences and whether it would affect us emotionally or not but, please, this is a singing contest not a chess championship that you have to think 10 steps ahead. Maybe there would be a pool to choose songs from as Hard suggested but this also has a real big chance to not coincide with what Garven said. So the songs which will be in the pool have to be chosen really carefully and all the contestants should be informed about all the songs in the pool in order to prevent them from screwing up in the last minute. So here's my first idea out of two (which would be a lot better if both were implemented): You choose three songs for each contestant for the pool which is one in their mother tongue, one in a universal language (could be English/Japanese/Korean/Mandarin etc.) and one of their preference between the two listed before. The second thing that should be taken into consideration is again the genres. There is a theoretically simple yet might be a little hard to do in practice kind of solution to this issue. How about we split the Osu!idol finals into different genres and gave prizes according to them. Just spiting them up would be nonsense but let's say that there are three kind of genres left in the finals for each contestant: A, B and C. Everyone sings in their own genre and everything's good to go right? Well, no, sadly. This again triggers the more liked genre vs winner genre problem which can be dealt with a little effort from both the contestants and the judges. Let all of them sing all the genres. Like, A person sings both A, B and C genres; B person sings both A, B and C and vice versa. After all of them are reviewed by the judges we would see if the A person is stronger than the B one in both the A and B or just stronger in it's own genre, this way they would be compared equally in a musical way, not as separately in a "pop" or "rock" or "hip-hop" way. (I'm pretty sure I couldn't explain myself clear enough though.) Also a little P.S. This is just an idea. It's not that I think judges would not evaluate the performances right or anything. What if the people were allowed to vote for their favorite singer? I know this would cause so much trouble so I suggest accepting only non-friends' votes. Also to prevent what I call "counter-voting" also the friends of a contestant should not be allowed to vote for another contestant in anyway. Thus, the only people who vote would be the ones who don't know anything about the singers. Also the votes of non-judge voters should be evaluated as 25% of the judges'. So this way judges have still a way of judging. I think that's all.Many thanks to everyone who made such event possible and good luck with it. Hope to see things like this evolve to bigger ones or open the gates to many others in the future.
The hype.LoliFlan wrote:
Anyway, if everything goes well, judging should be complete tomorrow!
It was like Jack's bean! I was surprised to find it almost done this morning lolKyonko Hizara wrote:
4 spaces left boysLoliFlan wrote:
Anyway, if everything goes well, judging should be complete tomorrow!
Then you're congratulating meKyonko Hizara wrote:
SPOILERI got through 3 lines and stopped. I congratulate you tho for reading the whole thing.Ok now, here's the problem as a person who lives in a country which has nothing more than voice and talent shows on TV, I've seen some different concepts of competition. First of all: If you are going to make them sing one pre-chosen song as Jazz said it would not be the best idea to show their talents. Though, if you let them choose their songs, it would be a huge mess. Why? Think about it all those different genres of music had to be compared. It's like choosing between an FPS game and a Platform one or a car and a motorcycle. There would be no actual winners there would just be a more liked music, not because of the singer itself but because of the music and it's emotional effect it would have on us (which is a music's main purpose in the first place) that has been chosen by the singer. Yes, they chose them themselves and they would have thought about the consequences and whether it would affect us emotionally or not but, please, this is a singing contest not a chess championship that you have to think 10 steps ahead. Maybe there would be a pool to choose songs from as Hard suggested but this also has a real big chance to not coincide with what Garven said. So the songs which will be in the pool have to be chosen really carefully and all the contestants should be informed about all the songs in the pool in order to prevent them from screwing up in the last minute. So here's my first idea out of two (which would be a lot better if both were implemented): You choose three songs for each contestant for the pool which is one in their mother tongue, one in a universal language (could be English/Japanese/Korean/Mandarin etc.) and one of their preference between the two listed before. The second thing that should be taken into consideration is again the genres. There is a theoretically simple yet might be a little hard to do in practice kind of solution to this issue. How about we split the Osu!idol finals into different genres and gave prizes according to them. Just spiting them up would be nonsense but let's say that there are three kind of genres left in the finals for each contestant: A, B and C. Everyone sings in their own genre and everything's good to go right? Well, no, sadly. This again triggers the more liked genre vs winner genre problem which can be dealt with a little effort from both the contestants and the judges. Let all of them sing all the genres. Like, A person sings both A, B and C genres; B person sings both A, B and C and vice versa. After all of them are reviewed by the judges we would see if the A person is stronger than the B one in both the A and B or just stronger in it's own genre, this way they would be compared equally in a musical way, not as separately in a "pop" or "rock" or "hip-hop" way. (I'm pretty sure I couldn't explain myself clear enough though.) Also a little P.S. This is just an idea. It's not that I think judges would not evaluate the performances right or anything. What if the people were allowed to vote for their favorite singer? I know this would cause so much trouble so I suggest accepting only non-friends' votes. Also to prevent what I call "counter-voting" also the friends of a contestant should not be allowed to vote for another contestant in anyway. Thus, the only people who vote would be the ones who don't know anything about the singers. Also the votes of non-judge voters should be evaluated as 25% of the judges'. So this way judges have still a way of judging. I think that's all.Many thanks to everyone who made such event possible and good luck with it. Hope to see things like this evolve to bigger ones or open the gates to many others in the future.
[/quote]Oinari-sama wrote:
Why not give contestants 2 weeks and have them choose 1 song from a pool (no effects), plus 1 song of their own pick (effects allowed)? We'll have 6 songs to listen to xD /meruns
same here orzNekoVirus138 wrote:
i can't breath too oh my god i hope i passed
i already make a cover special for next stage
so cuuuute *o*LoliFlan wrote:
While we're waiting
https://soundcloud.com/modulelfs/lolifl ... -moonlight
Love it! And that song!LoliFlan wrote:
While we're waiting
https://soundcloud.com/modulelfs/lolifl ... -moonlight
OCD to the maximum.Kyonko Hizara wrote:
GARVEN PLEASE I CAN'T LOOK AT THAT EMPTY SPACE ANY LONGER
First thing that came to mind was awp....Oinari-sama wrote:
If you stare at the empty space long enough, you'll start to see patterns...
just watch. that 1 person will come out on top. that's what happens in every cheesy highschool movieLoliFlan wrote:
Okay 51 made it out since there was a tie, go figure lmao.
So is your avatar how you feel about the results? :Uxxdeathx wrote:
Bottom 10%
i actually really like your voice!!! you did a good jobJazz wrote:
Congratulations to the top 50
O i remember you!, fancy meeting you here, will checkout your entryionatheotaku wrote:
Aw damn. Close enough to top 50.
Good luck to top 50~~
you've done an amazing job at judging and making people improve, its not just all praise with words connected together to show the judges uniqueness or booing or feeling ticked off at bad participants like i see in some tv programs to strive drama, but what u guys are doing, ive never thought it was possibleKyonko Hizara wrote:
I was going to try and comment on everyone's for the registration round but for some of them I didn't know what to say and it was a lot to comment on all of 100 entries. (I'm not Garven sorry) For the next round I'm going to try and comment on all of the 51 that passed. If you didn't get a comment but want feedback on why you got the score you did then send me a forum PM.
Aw, I guess I'll comment less then.TwistedDuck wrote:
you've done an amazing job at judging and making people improve, its not just all praise with words connected together to show the judges uniqueness or booing or feeling ticked off at bad participants like i see in some tv programs to strive drama, but what u guys are doing, ive never thought it was possibleKyonko Hizara wrote:
I was going to try and comment on everyone's for the registration round but for some of them I didn't know what to say and it was a lot to comment on all of 100 entries. (I'm not Garven sorry) For the next round I'm going to try and comment on all of the 51 that passed. If you didn't get a comment but want feedback on why you got the score you did then send me a forum PM.
this is how constructive critiscm should be, and yeah quality over quantity and if ppl want feedback, thats nice just note somewhere in the doc to send them a PM. im really pumped for this; Good luck to everyone. i cant believe the quality in this. insane really.
-TD
Kyonko Hizara wrote:
I should post a link of my loli rapping...
All because Nyanners used to have the same hair cut as me does not make me and her the same ;-;Stefan wrote:
Kyonko Hizara wrote:
I should post a link of my loli rapping...
So Flan do you want a loli rap?LoliFlan wrote:
Kyonko > Nyanners whoever bla
Garven i thought yours was one of the best, maybe cause it was the first one i saw but, honestly keep doing whatever your doing, ur just putting in more time!, quality isnt compromisedGarven wrote:
Aw, I guess I'll comment less then.
Great job, everyone! It was fun listening to all of you! I'm pumped for the next round!
I'd approve that so much.Kyonko Hizara wrote:
So Flan do you want a loli rap?LoliFlan wrote:
Kyonko > Nyanners whoever bla
no it's how i feel about the lack of feedbackKyonko Hizara wrote:
So is your avatar how you feel about the results? :Uxxdeathx wrote:
Bottom 10%
It still must be raw vocals, the rules on the main post still apply.Hakeru wrote:
I passed yay ! Thank you !
So for the next round , are we able to mix our raw vocal (eq compress limiter reverb) or leave it with a mixdown again?
Eat shredded ginger root. It's good for the immune system :ULightDreamer wrote:
God damn flu!!!!!! If anybody know a miracle solution to make it disappear, please, tell me, I don't want to submit a song of me sneezing all the time
xxdeathx wrote:
no it's how i feel about the lack of feedback
Kyonko Hizara wrote:
If you didn't get a comment but want feedback on why you got the score you did then send me a forum PM.
If you want my honest opinion, I didn't find it to be that good or amazing at all. That's just me tho, the others thought it was pretty good.mrspazzaneve17 wrote:
Why so low Kyonko? Only judge who gave us a 3![]()
It was still fun though, congratz to the top 50!