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Setsuen
Ok. Now lets randomly switch our wagon to Zexion bc apparently some of us do find him suspicious.
MBomb

Haneii wrote:

I'll be off now.

One more person should add their vote to frostings and another person should post their intent to hammer. I suggest you guys get a role claim well before the deadline. Do not leave this until the last couple of hours and rush it.
Also I get the feeling we don't have much choice, idk if Frostings will check any time soon or whether it won't be until a few hours before deadline.
MBomb
idk why i said also but yeah
Raging Bull

-[Jess]- wrote:

Haneii wrote:

Jess, look at sakura's last vote count. No one else is voting drezi, and the day is nearing an end.

Would you vote frostings?
sure

unvote
vote:Frostings
god this sheep.

@ Setsuen, what do you have on Zexion besides very neutralposts?
MBomb

Raging Bull wrote:

-[Jess]- wrote:

Jess, look at sakura's last vote count. No one else is voting drezi, and the day is nearing an end.

Would you vote frostings?
sure

unvote
vote:Frostings
god this sheep.

@ Setsuen, what do you have on Zexion besides very neutralposts?
Tbh, this isn't sheeping, this is just Jess, as annoying as it sounds, this is normal play for her.
MBomb
Wait, I messed up, forget the "this isn't sheeping part", I just meant that this is how Jess normally plays, at least how it seems to me.
MBomb
oh also I messed up and put my second " too late rip
Setsuen

Raging Bull wrote:

[@ Setsuen, what do you have on Zexion besides very neutralposts?
Basically he pulled off what Sakura did in that stupid Madoka game where I neighbourised scum bc I trusted her. That and I already said that he is basically copying other people post now z.z pieguy reads on me and Haneii? Zexion said the same thing. Amianki's opportunistic? yep he repeated it.

that and Zexion is like Frosting. "Lets care about lurkers but decide not to prod anyone and if they still lurk we lynch them......... much much later".
Drezi

Raging Bull wrote:

-[Jess]- wrote:

sure

unvote
vote:Frostings
god this sheep.
?? This isn't even a sheep, she listed me and Frostings as null-scum and switched to the other one when Haneii told her it's more useful now. But you shouldn't expect much in the first place anyway.
Amianki
Vote: Frostings

I'm getting weird vibes from Raging Bull, but can't pinpoint anything specific.
MBomb
We're at L-2 right? (Not putting my vote back on until he gets back and roleclaims).
Topic Starter
Sakura
Vote Count 1.30

Frostings (4) - Raging Bull, -[Jess]-, Haneii, Amianki [L-3]
Amianki (3) - sLaiNi, Navizel
- Magic Bomb - (2) - Drezi, Zexion
Navizel (1) - pieguy1372

Not Voting (4) - Ace Timing, Frostings, Setsuen, - Magic Bomb -

With 13 Alive it takes 7 to lynch
Please let me know if there are any mistakes, as i just woke up
Drezi
I thought it's L-2 at first too, but Amianki had been left on Frostings in the previous votecounts, but he had been voting Navi.

Frostings should claim either way.
Frostings

Drezi wrote:

Frostings should claim either way.
no I can still stop this mislynch
give me a moment
Frostings

-[Jess]- wrote:

Read,and don't ask me to explain.I am bad on explaining
Null-scum
Drezi
Frostings
Wanna at least try, or can't be bothered? How are we expected to work with anything you say? Or is there no backbone to any of your posts?

Setsuen wrote:

as of this point Frosting is suspicious but Zexion gives off a bad vibe with his very VERY neutral posts.
so why am I suddenly so suspicious to you?
Just looks like a desperate soft-push, now that we're near the DL

Setsuen wrote:

that and Zexion is like Frosting. "Lets care about lurkers but decide not to prod anyone and if they still lurk we lynch them......... much much later"
Oh, here it is. Yeah, "much much later", I totally said that :roll:
Lynching someone because of inactivity Day1 should be a last resort imo, since it doesn't give us any informative results

Frostings wrote:

If they continue to lurk, we just lynch them day2 for free scumflips
Day2 = much much later apparently

Amianki wrote:

I'm getting weird vibes from Raging Bull, but can't pinpoint anything specific.
Yeah! I think I'm starting to scumread Raging Bull too! I remember he said something extremely vague that I can't seem to recall at the start of the day, so I want to stick with whatever that was. I don't want to have to bother explaining myself, because this is what I do every game, but trust me guys, I'm scumhunting too!
Frostings
What I'm trying to say is, a lot of whatever is being used to get a mislynch on me today is complete rubbish :roll:

Also I just saw this:

Haneii wrote:

Jess, look at sakura's last vote count. No one else is voting drezi, and the day is nearing an end.

Would you vote frostings?
uhhhhh
If this doesn't tell you guys that the VC is being manipulated, I don't know what will
Setsuen
Vote:Zexion


Change to this. End of story.
Navizel
wut
Setsuen

Frostings wrote:

Just looks like a desperate soft-push, now that we're near the DL

Oh, here it is. Yeah, "much much later", I totally said that :roll:
Lynching someone because of inactivity Day1 should be a last resort imo, since it doesn't give us any informative results
You were generally null bc your post did not give off any bad vibe. But MB has nicely pointed that that you had done literally nothing about the lurkers. You asked for no prod or anything to boost activity. NOTHING. You were fine with how inactive D1 was going to last.

You say that but I have lynched Navizel for posting lurkfest post before and it certainly helped me win.
Setsuen

Navizel wrote:

wut
I found Zexion to be more scummy than Frosting. End of story.
Drezi
well shit, I don't think forcing through that Frostings lynch would do much good with most votes being almost completely unexplained or only because "we need a lynch"..

I thought we might be able to read Jess here based on noises etc. at least but she's gonna be useless anyway and might aswell just get her to claim and decide to PL depending on the claim, rather than a No Lynch... I'm not really seeing a legit wagon happening at this point.
Zexion
Lol Setsuen.

*Sigh*, My previous post did not meant to parrot anyone. I don't even remember reading pie's reads while making that, and I also added something to Amianki's contribution. Your reason to scumread me are vague at best Setsuen, but I think you're just being mislead by your ego. You did townread me a while ago so that couldn't mean all my posts are "so neutral" as you claim.

I've also been discconected from this game from a while ago because the insane ammounts of walls and posts before and RL has been keeping me busy from overanalyizing everything, that's why you might have thought I was "parroting".

@Drezi: I am voting MB because I have to decide for a lynch, yeah, I'm not 100% sure but I still think we have to lynch today, so obviously I have to put my vote somewhere. What's the problem with me voting MB if he only had a vote before? You make it seem like if I was pushing for a quick lynch even tho that's pretty far away.

And also if it is for that, notice how Haneii also votes for Frostings without being that sure either (i.e. that "least townpoints on my list"), so maybe you're tunneling a bit here.
Drezi
No, Haneii clearly said that it's only because we need a lynch today, you quoted MB and said that you think it's desperately grasping at straws or something, but then proceeded to say that you need to keep an eye on me depending on the flip as if you were expecting a town flip despite having just said that you think he's scummy. Also if you think my reasons are shit for voting him, I should be suspicious to you NOW aswell, if you don't think that, the flip shouldn't really matter in that regard.
Drezi

Zexion wrote:

notice how Haneii also votes for Frostings without being that sure either, so maybe you're tunneling a bit here.
if I'm tunneling someone it's Magic Bomb not you lol, I really don't like how you're making excuses and the out of place cautious tone (why?) here.
Navizel

Drezi wrote:

well shit, I don't think forcing through that Frostings lynch would do much good with most votes being almost completely unexplained or only because "we need a lynch"..

I thought we might be able to read Jess here based on noises etc. at least but she's gonna be useless anyway and might aswell just get her to claim and decide to PL depending on the claim, rather than a No Lynch... I'm not really seeing a legit wagon happening at this point.
hmm. Isn't that the same as voting because we need a lynch
Drezi
Jess is utterly useless and it's a pain to get anything out of her, that's the difference.

Vote: Zexion

I'm feeling better about this now, anyway.
Topic Starter
Sakura
A little less than 5 hours until deadline
Navizel
*sees positions*
>Jess
>Frostings
>Drezi

well, sounds convenient
Drezi
prod pie please
Drezi
are you seriously questioning the legitimacy of a Jess PL?
Drezi
she shouldn't have been allowed to play in the first place.
Frostings
Vote: Setsuen
Navizel
The question is why would I not question something suspicious to me
Navizel
You want a Jess PL but you're not even voting her.
Navizel
Time might be a factor but everyone seems to be shifting their votes somewhere else not Frostings so
Drezi
Are you even trying to understand the things I'm saying? I think it should be pretty clear..
MBomb
By the looks of things, nothing will happen anyway before this, but I get home in about 2 and a half hours. DO NOT LYNCH ANYONE BEFORE I GET BACK. (If I end up not posting in 3 hours then do what you've gotta do I guess, but I'd really prefer for a lynch of anyone, no matter who, to wait).
Topic Starter
Sakura

Drezi wrote:

prod pie please
pieguy1372 has been prodded!

Vote Count 1.31

Frostings (4) - Raging Bull, -[Jess]-, Haneii, Amianki [L-3]
Amianki (3) - sLaiNi, Navizel
Zexion (2) - Setsuen, Drezi
- Magic Bomb - (1) - Zexion
Navizel (1) - pieguy1372
Setsuen (1) - Frostings


Not Voting (2) - Ace Timing, - Magic Bomb -

With 13 Alive it takes 7 to lynch
Please let me know if there's any mistakes.
Drezi
I'd rather have Jess goddamn lynched off at least, than go No Lynch, but I'm finding Zexion more and more scummy so I'm voting him. I'll be around the deadline and can vote Jess any time if we want to PL.
Zexion

Drezi wrote:

Zexion wrote:

notice how Haneii also votes for Frostings without being that sure either, so maybe you're tunneling a bit here.
if I'm tunneling someone it's Magic Bomb not you lol, I really don't like how you're making excuses and the out of place cautious tone (why?) here.
Because I don't see that much of a difference between me an Haneii's reasons, and yet you only accused me at that point.

Are you seriously voting me just because I can't pay 100% attention to the game atm? Is your reason for finding me scummy the post where I joined a MB wagon?
Drezi
prod Ace Timing too

And just a general rant @scum: I have ZERO respect for your play if it consists of not doing shit whole game, regardless of who ends up winning...
Amianki
...Why are we voting Zexion again?
Amianki
Zexion's responses to the sudden wagon on him is pretty town. That wagon needs to stop existing asap.
Topic Starter
Sakura

Drezi wrote:

prod Ace Timing too
Ace Timing has been prodded!
Ace Timing
mfw middle of algebra
sLaiNi
We wouldn't get anything out of lynching Jess, lol
Drezi
yes we would, lol
Ace Timing
If you lynch jess and she flips scum, the probability of setsuen being scum skyrockets. Jess always townreads her scumpals in her reads lists, or puts them in null town, its not conf scum, but the chances still increase.
Drezi
Ace you gonna vote perhaps or something?

Also what's with that Setsuen vote Frostings?......
MBomb

Ace Timing wrote:

If you lynch jess and she flips scum, the probability of setsuen being scum skyrockets. Jess always townreads her scumpals in her reads lists, or puts them in null town, its not conf scum, but the chances still increase.
I'd say this is untrue simply because of the fact that in the Hoenn game, she put Frostings in her null-town list and only Frostings, and he was town that game.
MBomb
Also I'm back and no progress seems to have been made. Decision time. Everyone who's here right now, say your two top people out of either of the 4 possible cases right now (Me, Frostings, Zexion, or Jess, I don't see any other lynch happening right now). If you're one of those 4 people, only say one, just because that makes more sense.
MBomb
Oh also, if you are definitely sure there's only one (or even none) of those people you want to get lynched, only vote one (Either that, or I expect a wall about why we should vote a specific person).
MBomb
With only 2 hours until deadline, we basically have to make a compromise at this stage, no other option.
Topic Starter
Sakura
2 hours remaining!
Vote Count 1.32

Frostings (4) - Raging Bull, -[Jess]-, Haneii, Amianki [L-3]
Amianki (3) - sLaiNi, Navizel
Zexion (2) - Setsuen, Drezi
- Magic Bomb - (1) - Zexion
Navizel (1) - pieguy1372
Setsuen (1) - Frostings


Not Voting (2) - Ace Timing, - Magic Bomb -

With 13 Alive it takes 7 to lynch
Drezi
It's either Frostings or Jess, I don't see anything else happening in 2 hours and even Jess is a strech.
Drezi
Frostings I'll be voting you unless suddenly people show up and agree to PL Jess so better claim.
Navizel
fuck this

whatever happens happens

Vote: Frostings
Raging Bull

Amianki wrote:

I'm getting weird vibes from Raging Bull, but can't pinpoint anything specific.
Mind explaining?

I suppose my reason for voting frosting may be a weak one, but its better than voting just to avoid an ML. I think somewhere frosting was also contradicting himself on his read with mb.
MBomb

Drezi wrote:

Frostings I'll be voting you unless suddenly people show up and agree to PL Jess so better claim.
This, it's L-2, and I'll probably vote you once we're closer to the deadline (I want as much time for information as possible), so you might as well just claim your role now.

Also, note to Drezi, don't place your vote for another like 30 minutes at least. You've said already you'll be around at deadline so it's fine to wait a bit longer, and I don't want a quickhammer, even an hour of discussion is still time for said discussion.
Frostings
isn't the DL literally right now? Or is there one hour left?
Anyways, reads:

suspicious
Setsuen, Amianki, pieguy
closer look into Zexion Day2, because of some things he said Day1 I'm gonna try to find it right now incase we have 1 hour left

still not claiming :roll:
Topic Starter
Sakura
1 hour remaining! If no hammer is reached within 60 minutes day will end with No Lynch.
Vote Count 1.33

Frostings (5) - Raging Bull, -[Jess]-, Haneii, Amianki, Navizel [L-2]
Amianki (2) - sLaiNi
Zexion (2) - Setsuen, Drezi
- Magic Bomb - (1) - Zexion
Navizel (1) - pieguy1372
Setsuen (1) - Frostings


Not Voting (2) - Ace Timing, - Magic Bomb -

With 13 Alive it takes 7 to lynch
Drezi
There's no way that you can or should deny claiming at this point.
Frostings
Found Zexion's post

Zexion wrote:

Ugh, honestly all that dicsussion about MB in the middle of the game is making me more unsure right now. I would go with a MB lynch... maaaaybe Frostings but I'm quite unsure about his case. I will keep an eye over Drezi for the next days according to MB's flip if that happens. For now I see Amianki is his usual townplay, he should be definitly addressed if he continues like this for the next day, an Amianki lynch D1 is a bit too rushed.
I want to see if he keeps to his words Day2
Raging Bull
Frosting, post town reads too please
Frostings

Drezi wrote:

There's no way that you can or should deny claiming at this point.
Why? Well now we still have an hour left and no one has an intent to hammer

I find Setsuen most scummiest right now just because of his quick change to Navizel, but I'm in no position to argue right now
I don't even think Setsuen will be here for the DL
Unvote

intent on voting either Amianki or Jess at this point.
Frostings

Raging Bull wrote:

Frosting, post town reads too please
sLaiNi, Ace T, maybe Nav
Drezi
me and Magic bomb will vote you
Frostings
sLaiNi because of his early Day1 posts, Ace T because of PR slip, Navi is a gut feel
Frostings

Drezi wrote:

me and Magic bomb will vote you
No I still don't want to claim
Frostings
If I'm lynched today, I'll be revealed anyways
Drezi
Better get NK-d than mislynched...
Drezi
Though after this anything you claim will be diminished in legitimacy
Frostings

Drezi wrote:

Better get NK-d than mislynched...
If I reveal my role, what will you do? Lynch someone else? I know what my role is, and I know how town and scum will behave using that information
Raging Bull
I think i might know frosting role since he is not claiming. Who was our "sort of" second most suspicion person?
sLaiNi
Vote Frostings

Didn't read the last 2-3 pages, just fast to get no Nolynch
Drezi
Depending on your claim we can No Lynch...
Topic Starter
Sakura
Game is paused hold on.
Drezi
slaini you idiot you hammered...
MBomb
oh, forgot about that
Navizel
wtf
Navizel
did he forgot he was double voter
sLaiNi
2015-08-20 20:31:19 UTC
said the "2 hours left" post and it's 22:47 here, so I felt like I was running out of time to read
Topic Starter
Sakura
What are your abilities!
What would me saying my abilities help you in any way?
We may do no lynch if it's better for the town to leave you alive
OH HEY GUYS SORRY BUT AHH- *trips with the nose rope hanging frostings* Ooops sorry


Frostings Treehouse Inhabitant (Town Vanilla) has been lynched Day 1
Frostings

Sakura wrote:

Hi, you are a Treehouse Inhabitant (Town Vanilla)
You've been living peacefully here but some people decide to make this tree their own place.
During the day, you may vote and talk.
During the night, you may sleep.

You win when all the invaders have been kicked out of the tree house.

Final Vote Count Day 1

Frostings (7) - Raging Bull, -[Jess]-, Haneii, Amianki, Navizel, sLaiNi [LYNCH]
Zexion (2) - Setsuen, Drezi
- Magic Bomb - (1) - Zexion
Navizel (1) - pieguy1372


Not Voting (3) - Ace Timing, - Magic Bomb -, Navizel

With 13 Alive it takes 7 to lynch
Drezi
or just scum and didn't want to wait for the claim... which should have happened long ago...
Raging Bull
That was anticlimatic. Idk about slaini now.
Topic Starter
Sakura
~Night 1~
- The Middle Man-

Current Housing:
[pieguy1372]
[Setsuen]
[- Magic Bomb -]
[Amianki]
[Raging Bull]
[Navizel]
[Haneii]
[Ace Timing]
[sLaiNi]
[Zexion]
[-[Jess]-]
[-VACANT-]
[Drezi]


Deadline for all Night Actions is 24 hours
Topic Starter
Sakura
Since day ended before pieguy1372 could reply to her prod, she will be prodded at day start once again (will start ticking from 24 hours)
Topic Starter
Sakura
As everyone comes back, looks like one person couldn't make it, it seems he spent too long last night looking for the correct papers and was caught by the enemy.

Navizel Town Register (Town 2-shot Cop) was killed Night 1
Navizel

Sakura wrote:

Hi, you are a Treehouse Register (Town 2-Shot Cop)
You handle the registry of the people, unfortunately in your urgency you were able to only take with you 2 papers.
2-shot Cop: During the Night you may check a player to see if they are an inhabitant of the Tree (Town), you may only do this twice.

You win when all the invaders have been kicked out of the treehouse

~Day 2~
- The Night Owl-

Current Housing:
[pieguy1372]
[Setsuen]
[- Magic Bomb -]
[Haneii]
[Raging Bull]
[-VACANT-]
[Amianki]
[Ace Timing]
[sLaiNi]
[Zexion]
[-[Jess]-]
[-VACANT-]
[Drezi]


Deadline for Hammer is 7 days, or until 8/27 16:00 GMT-5

Vote Count 2.0

Not Voting (11) - pieguy1372, Setsuen, - Magic Bomb -, Amianki, Raging Bull, Haneii, Ace Timing, sLaiNi, Zexion, -[Jess]-, Drezi

With 11 Alive it takes 6 to lynch
Topic Starter
Sakura
Also apologies for the late day start, was pretty tired and took a nap which lasted longer than i thought it would.
Zexion
Ugh.. they hit the cop. That's pretty bad. I believe scum will try to use the same tactic we -tried- to use on Greatest Idea II.

So Slaini, is your only reason for that hammer the fact "it was almost time"?

Also should we claim what we heard on night? Honest question here e_e, I'm kinda confused about what I heard.
Amianki
one else get a weird result last night? I'm not convinced it's from the kill.

PEdit: yeah
Amianki
I got a directionless result. It's been confirmed.
Ace Timing
tfw heavy machinery
Ace Timing
also directionless
Zexion
I heard exactly the same Ace did. Directionless. That would point to Slaini or two people with "heavy machinery".
Amianki
It's most likely a one-shot scum ability that masks all other sounds for the night. Not worth dwelling on much.
Raging Bull
Same result. I assume its probably default flavor.
MBomb
Did anyone target either Amianki or Haneii last night? This is a question which if you don't answer until later, I WILL scumread you.
Topic Starter
Sakura
Vote Count 2.01

Not Voting (11) - pieguy1372, Setsuen, - Magic Bomb -, Amianki, Raging Bull, Haneii, Ace Timing, sLaiNi, Zexion, -[Jess]-, Drezi

With 11 Alive it takes 6 to lynch
MBomb
Oh, and I'll explain why I'm asking after I've given enough time for everyone to ask (Or someone else may notice why I'm asking if they pay attention).
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