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MBomb
Irreversible if you're even still here, do you have any thoughts that could be helpful before you die tonight? (for example your reads?)
Irreversible
i messed up my passive just so you know already (had really limited wlan access during night)
im absol and i was able to check someone and see who used an action on who but i wont know what it was

apart from that snb is dumb i dont know, its a pain to read everything and im done with this game honsstly lol
fartownik

Irreversible wrote:

apart from that snb is dumb i dont know, its a pain to read everything and im done with this game honsstly lol
well now you know how we feel when playing with you on board

#rekt #shotsfired
fartownik
Also you're dumb. You didn't even CONSIDER SNB fakeclaiming and actually killing you via nightkill / playing like that on purpose as scum.
Drezi
Ok, as strange as it may be, I actually read Jess's ISO here, and from the past newbie game too where she was scum.
Some points from her scumplay there, that I think would remain the same if she's scum here too:
-placed Sakura her scumpartner as the number one townread in one of her first posts
-never voted or FoS-d her scumpartner
-when asked who should be lynched she answered: "me or Ace" and when asked if she was scumclaiming: "hmm dunno if it's a yes or no for me... you have much reason to lynch me too"

Now that third point is present here aswell, with her answering it's "50/50 chance of her being scum honestly" and if she does flip scum this might just become relevant:

-[Jess]- wrote:

Frostings wrote:

oh ok I see it now, it's in the italics in the first post
3 scum guys, let's find them :)
yeah!

unvote

Early Read

T:
Frostings

N:
everyone

Frostings wrote:

The only actual reads I have so far is Jess leaning town
If he's telling the truth about being new, no way a new-scum would publicly townread me, whereas I can see why a new-town would
-> that could be him freaking out over that blatant townread by a newbscum teammate and attempting to turn around the situation sometimes, resulting in that nonsensical "jess is town because..." analysis

With my stronger or weaker townreads piling up I've been starting to think 3 scum is in [Jess, Amianki, Frostings, Ace] but Jess voted Ace (Sniverre) at first and going by Jessmeta logic that'd make him town soooo
fartownik
Lol this is quite good. I like this theory a lot.

Let's rekt Jess today.
Ace Timing

Irreversible wrote:

snb youre a fucking idiot
vote : snb

im done with this piss toxic game
You do know that urine isn't toxic right?
Also, you could at very minimum give something to us to make your death mean something.

Inb4 scum just pissed that he was found out.
Irreversible

Ace Timing wrote:

Irreversible wrote:

snb youre a fucking idiot
vote : snb

im done with this piss toxic game
You do know that urine isn't toxic right?
Also, you could at very minimum give something to us to make your death mean something.

Inb4 scum just pissed that he was found out.
please waste your energy on actual scum

and farto, can you not like.. fuck off? much appreciated
Drezi

fartownik wrote:

Lol this is quite good. I like this theory a lot.

Let's rekt Jess today.
bleh this just made me second guess myself for some reason, even though I kinda want to believe rEdo's claim

if Jess flipped town somehow and scum doesn't kill you either I'd most certainly look into you two pulling a huge scumparade here with rEdo.
fartownik
I like the fact that you're paranoid, my friend.

Irreversible wrote:

and farto, can you not like.. fuck off? much appreciated
MBomb
To be honest, I don't really see anything happening here that will change what's going to happen today, I'm considering just voting for jess, but at the same time I want to wait just in case something does happen, so idk.
fartownik
Also the only reason this game is 'horribad' is not because of the way people talk (as only you perceive it) but because Jess and Sniverre are/were anti-town as hell which gave us basically minus two people to work with from the beginning of the game. Also adding the fact of constant V/LAs (rEdo, you, Amianki), people just get demotivated easily when suddenly all of the shit from the sewer starts falling down on their heads. If you're really so soft you shouldn't be playing these games. I may swear a lot but try to see the point in my posts instead of only seeing the 'offensive words'.
fartownik
^ to Irre
Ace Timing

Irreversible wrote:

please waste your energy on actual scum

Irreversible wrote:

actual scum
Frostings
@Drezi:

heh, that's a cute theory

I didn't know when this game started that Jess would be a complete total noob, I -did- get pings from that specific post that she was more in the inexperienced side, which, right after Amianki's "ok Frostings is town" post, made me believe she was actually just an inexperienced townie. fartow's "nonsense scum" theory didn't really convince me then, but after seeing the way Jess has been playing now, it's a possibility. But Jess is literally a toss-in-the-air, which is why I'm reading her null, but don't mind a PL because she's useless

Drezi wrote:

that could be him freaking out over that blatant townread by a newbscum teammate and attempting to turn around the situation sometimes, resulting in that nonsensical "jess is town because..."
Even if I was scum and Jess was my scumpartner, I wouldn't be smart enough to think of something like that, and I wouldn't even attempt it otherwise because it would be way too obvious. Not gonna get into this because I'm just spreading wifom now
Frostings

Irreversible wrote:

im absol and i was able to check someone and see who used an action on who but i wont know what it was
Did you get a result?
Amianki
Is there a Jess-scum case or is the only case we have the double vote hammer?

I'm really hesitant on policy lynching when Drezi is on the table.
Birdy
This is good. I like this game again.
Birdy
I wonder if there will be much left to do on this game when Irre and Jess flip scum though. :roll:
fartownik
Right now nothing at all seems to be happening, imo there's nothing more to wait for today unless we want this game at hold completely (no posts for 13 hours besides two SNB posts, eh), let me finalize things. Even though Jess is not as 'obvious' as I'd like a scumdidate to be, by PoE and how she played the entire game it's hard not to lynch her really. Doublevoting Tess outta fucking nowhere was the nail to the coffin obviously. Ockham's Razor should be the right principle to follow here.

'The battle' between Amianki and Drezi made me uncomfortable. At one of the sides there's Drezi whom I townread by gut, but people (Tess, Amianki, rEdo) keep implying he's just 'scum playing very well', which doesn't seem like the case to me at all. Really, by gut I'd rather go for an Amianki lynch than a Drezi lynch at this point (if I had to choose).

Getting on night actions again, I think it may actually be a good idea if rEdo targeted someone. Even though it's risky as fuck, if he decides not to target anyone scum may as well decide he's not a threat (in confirming people) and move on to a safer target like me or someone else. Try targeting someone obvtown for you, but not obvtown in a way that scum easily guesses who you're going to target. Mind that you shouldn't use your Helping Hand, one target is risky enough.

Err, alright, if anyone has anything to add/propose, feel free to speak now. If it's all good to go, feel free to hammerino Jess.
Drezi
I think if Jess doesn't flip scum, rEdo shouldn't hide, otherwise he should.

With a lynch we'd be at 8 players as possible targets for rEdo , -Irre because we assume he'll end up dead from poison, and -farto because he's the most likely kill due to being confirmed by rEdo, and there'd still be 3 scum unless Irre is one, so that's 3/6 targets getting rEdo killed and throwing the game, in exchance for trying to confirm someone, 4/6 if scum decided to try to kill someone uncomfirmed trying to get rEdo with him. I don't really think it's worth it.
Drezi
also he already confirmed farto so it doesn't even have to do anything with him being a likely kill or not.
-[Jess]-

fartownik wrote:

Just speedlynch Jess and never allow her into any game on this forums for fucks sake
Rude
Drezi
Jess dear, is that all you have to say when we are lynching you? If you're scum just say sorry now, and we might forgive your misgivings.
-[Jess]-

Drezi wrote:

Jess dear, is that all you have to say when we are lynching you? If you're scum just say sorry now, and we might forgive your misgivings.
I have lots of things to say now
But I have no firth to say.
And I am too kind for this.
Drezi
what is "no firth to say"? did you mistype something there, I don't understand
fartownik

obviously no Colin Firth in her house to say
fartownik
but it may also be Firth, a word in the Scots, and English languages used to denote various coastal waters in Scotland and England.
Drezi
I googled it too before asking :P
Drezi
maybe it's no words to say? kinda sounds similar
fartownik
Yeah I'm just fooling around, it's probably "NOTHING TO SAY", even though she said she has "LOTS OF THINGS TO SAY" literally one line above.
Drezi
no I think she means she wants to say stuff but she doesn't know the right words to express herself
Drezi
Jess do you mean you're simply too kind of a person to decieve and lie to others?
fartownik
Perhaps we should get a cantonese translator in here.
Drezi
Or do you mean that you're angry at us but you're too kind to actually say it?
MBomb
What is even going on I look away for one second and all of a sudden Colin Firth
-[Jess]-

Drezi wrote:

Or do you mean that you're angry at us but you're too kind to actually say it?
No,I am not angry of this.
Birdy
She's too kind to lie > doesn't want to lie about being town > scum confirmed :roll:
Frostings
Alright this is going nowhere..
I'd like rEdo to post once more and Irre to answer my question

also Irre's lack of interest makes me feel he will actually flip scum
fartownik
I think that actually is the case and she already confirmed that she's scum in that earlier post (like, she honestly answered Drezi's question).
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