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Mafia in Hoenn Region - Game Over

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-[Jess]-
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-[Jess]-
Ok

Sniverre235 wrote:

Sorry for the very late reply, but when I first saw the amount of vote for frostings..I figured that I should follow the crowd. Since I do not really want to change at all for who I vote, so I will just stick to Frostings. Since I am completely new in mafia, he may be equally good and equally bad in my senses.
P.S:
I am really sorry for the low amount of post counts but I come here frequently to read. I do not have much intention to post here unless it is important.
Use your brain to think ,don't just following the crowd.They might be wrong,Sometimes.Also,as everyone said,try to be active and bravery share your thoughts to us,we are not monster that will eat you.

Just stop here.I will Read more later
fartownik
2,189 posts
Joined December 2008
fartownik
Also no matter how retarded this might sound, I'm actually starting to read Irre as Town for what he's doing at the moment. I feel like this time he's being a clumsy Town, not clumsy scum pretending to be clumsy Town.
Nyxa
848 posts
Joined October 2013
Nyxa
^This is basically why I think Irre is town.
Nyxa
848 posts
Joined October 2013
Nyxa
I'll give my complete reads in due time, by the way.
fartownik
2,189 posts
Joined December 2008
fartownik
Also that post of Jess only proves that this game is gonna be fucking tough with only a few players that are actually Town. Jess, Sniverre, Irre (to some degree, because he's kinda readable) - Anti-Town, good luck distinguishing whether they're actually scum without lynching them for being so obviously bad. Add to that the 3 scum that are not necessarily in this group and suddenly you're left with only a couple of actual Town players that want to win this game. That's why I said this game is gonna be hard.

I think I'm gonna summarize my reads for now.

Possible scum: Tess, Frostings, (maybe) SNB
Null: rEdo, Jess, Sniverre, Zexion (Jess and Sniverre are null only because they're noobs, they may as well be put in "possible scum" bracket)
Town: Magic Bomb, Amianki, Irre, (maybe) Drezi
Nyxa
848 posts
Joined October 2013
Nyxa
farto, your reasoning is surprisingly off from what I'm used to, from you.
AlyNight
50 posts
Joined April 2015
AlyNight
Thanks for everybody who had helped me.

Tess wrote:

farto, your reasoning is surprisingly off from what I'm used to, from you.
Huuh?
Strange behaviour....I will put thoughts into that...
MBomb
MBomb
Quite a lot happened whilst I was asleep, reading.
fartownik
2,189 posts
Joined December 2008
fartownik

Tess wrote:

farto, your reasoning is surprisingly off from what I'm used to, from you.
Elaborate.
MBomb
MBomb
Oh wait nevermind, fsr I thought I missed like 80 posts, I only missed like 30 lol
fartownik
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Joined December 2008
fartownik

Sniverre235 wrote:

Thanks for everybody who had helped me.

Tess wrote:

farto, your reasoning is surprisingly off from what I'm used to, from you.
Huuh?
Strange behaviour....I will put thoughts into that...
Huh? Did someone say CHEESE? I want to eat some cheese.
-[Jess]-
1,086 posts
Joined March 2014
-[Jess]-

Sniverre235 wrote:

Thanks for everybody who had helped me.

Tess wrote:

farto, your reasoning is surprisingly off from what I'm used to, from you.
Huuh?
Strange behaviour....I will put thoughts into that...
is not Strange for me, and i am curious about this post....
MBomb
MBomb
Done reading.

Vote: Sniverre235
-[Jess]-
1,086 posts
Joined March 2014
-[Jess]-
also

vote: Sniverre235
Drezi
217 posts
Joined January 2014
Drezi
oh god

so what's up with this SNB wagon guys, does noone even care that it just happened or something?

Unvote

What made you vote SNB, Irre?
fartownik
2,189 posts
Joined December 2008
fartownik
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AlyNight
50 posts
Joined April 2015
AlyNight
Nahh...For a second thought I should stick to what I am thinking right now
fartownik
2,189 posts
Joined December 2008
fartownik
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MBomb
MBomb

Drezi wrote:

oh god

so what's up with this SNB wagon guys, does noone even care that it just happened or something?

Unvote

What made you vote SNB, Irre?
I'm confused why there's a wagon for SNB, maybe just because he's lurking?
MBomb
MBomb
My first thought was that it could be an attempted counter wagon from Frostings but then I realised most of the votes went off Frostings after the SNB wagon appeared.
Frostings
913 posts
Joined May 2013
Frostings
m y g o d
this game is so bad
FoS: fartownik
Honestly, we're just trying to see where your thoughts lie, fartow, and you get extremely offended and hostile for no reason

FoS: Sniverre
sorry, but new player just isn't gonna cut it, bad play is just bad

Vote remains on Tess

I'll do better explanation of reads later, on my phone with 5% battery
Zexion
308 posts
Joined May 2012
Zexion

Irreversible wrote:

Zexion wrote:

You never answered about MB tho, I would like to ask you again.
Sorry, missed that part. I have a slight town read on him, because he's acting pretty much as I'd expect it from a new player.
Please explain your SNB vote. I thought Farto was FoS'ing her because she pointed stuff that he didn't agree with then the wagon happened.

Also, I kinda agreed on MB, considering they are new and also posting a lot, it gives me town-vibes... at least until

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

Done reading.

Vote: Sniverre235
What's with this vote, I do hope you have an explanation because other than complete absense from the most of the game I couldn't think of Sniverre as scum right now, other than being so newb that you could think they're hiding something...

-[Jess]- wrote:

also

vote: Sniverre235
Where did this come from. What is this wagon. I don't even...

fartownik wrote:

I think I'm gonna summarize my reads for now.

Possible scum: Tess, Frostings, (maybe) SNB
Null: rEdo, Jess, Sniverre, Zexion (Jess and Sniverre are null only because they're noobs, they may as well be put in "possible scum" bracket)
Town: Magic Bomb, Amianki, Irre, (maybe) Drezi
How are you reading Amianki as town with a single meaningful post? He has barely contributed at all.

Tess wrote:

farto, your reasoning is surprisingly off from what I'm used to, from you.
We can't read your mind, you know. What are you used to from Farto?

Sniverre235 wrote:

Nahh...For a second thought I should stick to what I am thinking right now
Hello Tess #2. I do hope you're reading the game.

---------------

Also I can only summarize everything that's going on as:

fartownik wrote:

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Zexion
308 posts
Joined May 2012
Zexion

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

My first thought was that it could be an attempted counter wagon from Frostings but then I realised most of the votes went off Frostings after the SNB wagon appeared.
I would think Tess' wagon is the counter. SNB's one just kinda popped from nowhere.

Frostings wrote:

m y g o d
this game is so bad
^

;_________________;

Also I think your FoS on Farto may be just OMGUS from before. I can't agree with his overall attitude but I do see him scumhunting and actually worrying about the game.
MBomb
MBomb

Zexion wrote:

Also, I kinda agreed on MB, considering they are new and also posting a lot, it gives me town-vibes... at least until

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

Done reading.

Vote: Sniverre235
What's with this vote, I do hope you have an explanation because other than complete absense from the most of the game I couldn't think of Sniverre as scum right now, other than being so newb that you could think they're hiding something...

-[Jess]- wrote:

also

vote: Sniverre235
Where did this come from. What is this wagon. I don't even...
My vote on Sniverre is mainly because they're just following the crowd for the whole game, not really having their own thoughts (And if they are, they're not showing that they are). I know they're a new player, so I can't expect them to be fully independent, but at the same time, it feels like they're not even trying to read the game, and just voting whatever everyone else is, and I don't really like that kind of play.

However, I would still like to hear Jess's reasoning behind the vote on Sniverre. Whilst I assume it was the same as mine, I didn't really expect another vote, especially not so quickly.
Drezi
217 posts
Joined January 2014
Drezi
Sniverre isn't voting anyone afaik.
Drezi
217 posts
Joined January 2014
Drezi
oh he did drop a vote on Frostings earlier ok.
Zexion
308 posts
Joined May 2012
Zexion

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

My vote on Sniverre is mainly because they're just following the crowd for the whole game, not really having their own thoughts (And if they are, they're not showing that they are). I know they're a new player, so I can't expect them to be fully independent, but at the same time, it feels like they're not even trying to read the game, and just voting whatever everyone else is, and I don't really like that kind of play.

However, I would still like to hear Jess's reasoning behind the vote on Sniverre. Whilst I assume it was the same as mine, I didn't really expect another vote, especially not so quickly.
Tess did also jump in the SNB wagon and didn't post her thoughts, exactly what you claim Sniverre is doing (and you're right anyways). Why you didn't vote her before?

In fact:

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

Tess no longer seems the most scum to me, but before I vote my next person I want to see what happens, to see if my opinion changes.
So Tess is not scum for doing exactly the thing that's making Sniverre scum?

I am pushing this issue because it kinda suprised me you would vote a player who is completly lost (they have no idea, I know being new isn't a shield and stuff but I would try to make him talk a bit more), while Tess had plenty of chances to explain what she's thinking and understands how this game works.

Also I agree on Jess' vote, hence my pointing out the second vote on Sniverre.
Zexion
308 posts
Joined May 2012
Zexion
@Mod: Votecount please.
MBomb
MBomb

Zexion wrote:

Tess did also jump in the SNB wagon and didn't post her thoughts, exactly what you claim Sniverre is doing (and you're right anyways). Why you didn't vote her before?

In fact:

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

Tess no longer seems the most scum to me, but before I vote my next person I want to see what happens, to see if my opinion changes.
So Tess is not scum for doing exactly the thing that's making Sniverre scum?

I am pushing this issue because it kinda suprised me you would vote a player who is completly lost (they have no idea, I know being new isn't a shield and stuff but I would try to make him talk a bit more), while Tess had plenty of chances to explain what she's thinking and understands how this game works.

Also I agree on Jess' vote, hence my pointing out the second vote on Sniverre.
That was quite a while ago, and what made Tess not scum was generating discussion, unlike what Sniverre is doing of just agreeing with other people. I want to hear what he has to say about it, and then I'll drop my vote, if he convinces me he isn't scum.
Navizel
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Navizel
"Mauville City sure has changed. It's really different two years ago. I need a map so I won't get lost. Let's see.. here. Oh wait, it's a votecount. Where's the map though?"

Votecount 1.6
fartownik -
Drezi -
Tess (2) - Frostings, fartownik
Irreversible (1) - rEdo
-[Jess]- -
rEdo -
Sniverre235 (2) - -[Jess]-, - Magic Bomb -
Zexion (1) - Amianki
- Magic Bomb - -
Frostings (1) - Sniverre235
Amianki -
Static Noise Bird (2) - Irreversible, Tess

Not Voting: Zexion, Static Noise Bird, Drezi

With 12 players alive, it takes 7 votes to lynch.

Deadline will be on July 25 8:30PM GMT -5. This is 8 days from now.
rEdo is V/LA for roughly 30 hours

Let me know if I made any mistakes.
fartownik
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Joined December 2008
fartownik

Zexion wrote:

How are you reading Amianki as town with a single meaningful post? He has barely contributed at all.
That post was enough. For now he's leaning more Town than null so I put him in the Town bracket.

He noticed how SNB jumped on me, same reaction as me. May be sheeping, but I doubt it. He questioned Frostings despite stating that he's Town in his previous post, seemed quite like a Town behavior.
fartownik
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Joined December 2008
fartownik
Also Tess is not 'elaborating' for some time now. Did he/she went sleep? So early? :)
fartownik
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fartownik
I forgot to include this in my post xD:

Kay, Zexion is leaning more Town for his recent posts.

Magic Bomb's logic fits a fresh Town player as well. But I have to correct you here, you can not really predict whether certain individuals that only begin playing Mafia will do. They may appear very scummy to you, as Sniverre is, but still be Town simply because they have absolutely no idea what they should do. For example, Sniverre's first post in the thread was that he doesn't understand the rules, but he still signs up. That's a sign of being a complete beginner and I believe he's being very confused at the moment, no matter the alignment. Lynching a newb so quick is a trap that Town can fall into very easily. I also hate such lynches because they're really easy to pull off from scum.

Frostings latest posts absolutely don't bring me any townvibes besides his vote staying on Tess. His FoS are rather giving me scumvibes again, especially the one on Sniverre (see up).
Birdy
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Joined April 2011
Birdy
I like the wagon on me. I'll have to analyze the people on it now.

FYI everyone I slept for 14 hours and immediately went outdoors for 5 hours, hence why I'm back only now.

Reading and such, whatever. It's not like anyone is going to believe whatever there could be coming from a lurker anymore anyway :^)
fartownik
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Joined December 2008
fartownik
I want to vote SNB after this post
MBomb
MBomb

fartownik wrote:

Magic Bomb's logic fits a fresh Town player as well. But I have to correct you here, you can not really predict whether certain individuals that only begin playing Mafia will do. They may appear very scummy to you, as Sniverre is, but still be Town simply because they have absolutely no idea what they should do. For example, Sniverre's first post in the thread was that he doesn't understand the rules, but he still signs up. That's a sign of being a complete beginner and I believe he's being very confused at the moment, no matter the alignment. Lynching a newb so quick is a trap that Town can fall into very easily. I also hate such lynches because they're really easy to pull off from scum.
I'll keep this in mind, but I'm gonna keep my vote on Sniverre until he responds.
Birdy
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Birdy

Tess wrote:

farto, your reasoning is surprisingly off from what I'm used to, from you.
META IS NOT A PROPER ARGUMENT.

Zexion wrote:

Irreversible wrote:

Sorry, missed that part. I have a slight town read on him, because he's acting pretty much as I'd expect it from a new player.
Please explain your SNB vote. I thought Farto was FoS'ing her because she pointed stuff that he didn't agree with then the wagon happened.
That would be freaking funny, but then again obviously if X doesn't agree with Y, Y is instantly scum for X.

Tess wrote:

^This is basically why I think Irre is town.
You're kinda like a mute parrot.

Tess wrote:

I'll give my complete reads in due time, by the way.
You're basically waiting for the perfect opportunity to strike and make reads based on who seems the most scummy that time?

fartownik wrote:

irreversible wrote:

Also, @fartowink: can you elaborate on your arbitrary jumping on people? Frostings, Jess, Drezi, Tess, if it was reaction test it's beyond bad, honestly.
No, I can fucking not. Irre, can you start reading the thread before asking people questions?
Seriously though I'm not sure here if I completely misunderstood this (though if I asked you to elaborate again, you probably "could fucking not" anyway), if you're seeing things that others (or at least me and Irre) don't see, or if you're just overreacting to a thing or two. Trying too hard to get just about anyone lynched?

fartownik wrote:

Vote: Tess

It stays.
Cool. No explanation whatsoever but the jumping stops? That's good. I bet I can trust you with that one.

fartownik wrote:

I want to vote SNB after this post
I trusted you for so long, how could you betray me like this :(

fartownik wrote:

They may appear very scummy to you, as Sniverre is, but still be Town simply because they have absolutely no idea what they should do. For example, Sniverre's first post in the thread was that he doesn't understand the rules, but he still signs up. That's a sign of being a complete beginner and I believe he's being very confused at the moment, no matter the alignment. Lynching a newb so quick is a trap that Town can fall into very easily. I also hate such lynches because they're really easy to pull off from scum.
I'll give you townpoints for this one though, I hope I'm not falling for a shallow trap here though.

@Tess: Could you tell us who are you waiting for to sheep ASAP so we can lynch two scum at once instead of just you?

Vote: Tess




Frostings wrote:

m y g o d
this game is so bad
fartownik
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fartownik
@SNB: @Irre: I'm just pissed off at people that ask me questions that were already answered in the thread. But still, I did answer him in the same exact post. Why don't you quote that? You only select parts of posts that fit your needs, huh.
fartownik
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Joined December 2008
fartownik
Fun fact: Jess took a V/LA in the Newbie Mafia game 10 hours ago, but didn't take V/LA in here. Not sure if this can mean something, but I guess it's worth pointing out.
fartownik
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Joined December 2008
fartownik
And where dafuq is Amianki. Come on, we need some quality posts in here.
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