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Trosk-
You should have posted this problem here, since it's a Cutting Edge issue.

Anyways, I can confirm it...

Also, here you have the crashlog:

Crashlog
System.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object.
at #=qLFuGputbYSQmwedYaJJnalJm9HfsdbNgjxXT6kIn7IQ=.#=qfl5RmK3A6Wk6zO6hbz11Sw==(Mods #=qzQ9j9fl9Sc8R4I164TJ4NQ==, Boolean #=qK6wjgo_9TwM7yRn8h0EJ$A==)
at #=qLFuGputbYSQmwedYaJJnalJm9HfsdbNgjxXT6kIn7IQ=.#=qBmsnlBI32HJdIV$QFLlDqTT1yhLW_xZs9VnPU66iOe0=(Object #=q2Ow7utZIrbWEryWWIoH94w==, EventArgs #=qOPThJU0JyoMa0ImdyQjt0g==)
at #=qr781z3M3XbyAlCgMRh43TDow8rmt6HioC$_Y9dq904Y=.#=qH82$iT_Xlsw7nbg2Vum7_Q==(Boolean #=qgkrbx$UlOEnU3dLPaYNQUw==)
at #=qRhWXkoaAa6UaK1U77ADPk5eOggukLrMtrDt437BLqqR1lm8N84v99MgmWV4VFnev.#=qrmLHD5vu96uKd$cFqirCRw==(Boolean #=q1cLxfDLzcEyQvVCvQ3Dd3A==)
at #=qRhWXkoaAa6UaK1U77ADPk5eOggukLrMtrDt437BLqqR1lm8N84v99MgmWV4VFnev.#=qtjx4wYM8vNcSnysK5StwAg==(Boolean #=q1cLxfDLzcEyQvVCvQ3Dd3A==)
at #=qjhZLct62Uj_NbuVGi3Bhmljwv5V9J0VFpkWYe3oew27zUtwJn6tLel


VeilStar

Nakuyoko wrote:

Problem Details:
When spectating someone or watching a replay.
If you try to disable flashlight it gives an error and sometimes crashes.
I can confirm. Merging this to the cuttingedge thread.
Crash Log
System.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object.
at #=qLFuGputbYSQmwedYaJJnalJm9HfsdbNgjxXT6kIn7IQ=.#=qfl5RmK3A6Wk6zO6hbz11Sw==(Mods #=qzQ9j9fl9Sc8R4I164TJ4NQ==, Boolean #=qK6wjgo_9TwM7yRn8h0EJ$A==)
at #=qLFuGputbYSQmwedYaJJnalJm9HfsdbNgjxXT6kIn7IQ=.#=qBmsnlBI32HJdIV$QFLlDqTT1yhLW_xZs9VnPU66iOe0=(Object #=q2Ow7utZIrbWEryWWIoH94w==, EventArgs #=qOPThJU0JyoMa0ImdyQjt0g==)
at #=qr781z3M3XbyAlCgMRh43TDow8rmt6HioC$_Y9dq904Y=.#=qH82$iT_Xlsw7nbg2Vum7_Q==(Boolean #=qgkrbx$UlOEnU3dLPaYNQUw==)
at #=qRhWXkoaAa6UaK1U77ADPk5eOggukLrMtrDt437BLqqR1lm8N84v99MgmWV4VFnev.#=qrmLHD5vu96uKd$cFqirCRw==(Boolean #=q1cLxfDLzcEyQvVCvQ3Dd3A==)
at #=qRhWXkoaAa6UaK1U77ADPk5eOggukLrMtrDt437BLqqR1lm8N84v99MgmWV4VFnev.#=qtjx4wYM8vNcSnysK5StwAg==(Boolean #=q1cLxfDLzcEyQvVCvQ3Dd3A==)
at #=qjhZLct62Uj_NbuVGi3Bhmljwv5V9J0VFpkWYe3oew27zUtwJn6tLel9dOpV4809t.#=q5KW2roBYFpDnDeU8QThHIA==()
at #=qFjMzMyi1I6cfwlne_vL1Nemv5VhDutDCSPLfvQrPWJ0=.#=qwIGAIxoeGPza9K0LnzTtbg==()
at #=qnHMLssbxnNT8sO1i8w3fyQ==.#=qDLVzK5WgwVLVkLZmsZTU9Q==()
at #=qQGSxkm0tmtudPZtHfo9TRV7T2wr0l3p4zbg5da7g8Jk=.#=qu_EDTrq$a_y3Bh5WmnT4Eg==()
at #=qQGSxkm0tmtudPZtHfo9TRV7T2wr0l3p4zbg5da7g8Jk=.#=qDP7Wx6xBRC6wHQmJMVuDLw==(Object #=q2Ow7utZIrbWEryWWIoH94w==, EventArgs #=qOPThJU0JyoMa0ImdyQjt0g==)
at #=qiyZwM8I7_od8KWN5Zf3Ll1ajQ8QGobLRUDWdX_Pp_6ZdfhPH4OKTubtBC$nuf23O.#=qSNilTujZCINytPupT$dAVQ==()
at #=qJnV_tesk6Iql0m1jAPgNz0mvFL4gMzu3T8awB0qWsyJsQTSY3AbcZ1Kmur86ujXe.#=qJCtg8qhsRU3CYTFlNYSFbERBGQMRcksjKAPGUlzFZME=(Object #=q2Ow7utZIrbWEryWWIoH94w==, EventArgs #=qOPThJU0JyoMa0ImdyQjt0g==)
at System.Windows.Forms.Application.ThreadContext.System.Windows.Forms.UnsafeNativeMethods.IMsoComponent.FDoIdle(Int32 grfidlef)
at System.Windows.Forms.Application.ComponentManager.System.Windows.Forms.UnsafeNativeMethods.IMsoComponentManager.FPushMessageLoop(IntPtr dwComponentID, Int32 reason, Int32 pvLoopData)
at System.Windows.Forms.Application.ThreadContext.RunMessageLoopInner(Int32 reason, ApplicationContext context)
at System.Windows.Forms.Application.ThreadContext.RunMessageLoop(Int32 reason, ApplicationContext context)
at System.Windows.Forms.Application.Run(Form mainForm)
at #=qJnV_tesk6Iql0m1jAPgNz0mvFL4gMzu3T8awB0qWsyJsQTSY3AbcZ1Kmur86ujXe.#=qBY9CKqUKssueoUv_EtvQtA==()
at #=qQGSxkm0tmtudPZtHfo9TRV7T2wr0l3p4zbg5da7g8Jk=.#=qBY9CKqUKssueoUv_EtvQtA==()
at #=qNMwT6UVNL4T_ENPh4ns1dw==.#=qGewpYOgH9uxfvkvP4bz0Fg==(String #=qENUoYZvnNeOEbTtC_URf7A==, Boolean #=qmL4HFGf9l1uChEJl_hN6bDqoUEvMgGBtrkcnFEyoJ3g=, Boolean #=qnR$EZ2JtToNpSzzpoxVErhPEOaHzveTpk5wBmq$36NA=, Boolean #=qZjiItrxz$3PEmJ8lpniybA==)
Trosk-
Well, when I was trying to replicate the Mania Flashlight crash in another game modes I noticed of this:

When you are on Spectator/Auto on Taiko and you disable the FL, the playfield is clipped (also, it isn't 100% disabled, you can see shadows (on all game modes)):

Original (without FL):


With FL disabled:


Also, the same "Shadow" appears on CTB:


And well, also happens for Standard:


I don't know if this is intended behaviour or not, if it is, I'm sorry for this post..
VeilStar

Trosk- wrote:

Well, when I was trying to replicate the Mania Flashlight crash in another game modes I noticed of this:
<wall of screenshots & text>
I don't know if this is intended behaviour or not, if it is, I'm sorry for this post..
That's intended.
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Score_Under


If you (accidentally) hit "leave match" as the screen is fading out to start the match, you can end up "waiting for players" and "quit" simultaneously in a multiplayer game.
BoySanic
Not sure if anyone else is having the issue, but in cutting edge sometimes the "Auto" mod will automatically be selected as I find myself starting maps without mods but suddenly it's playing on "Auto".
Trosk-

boysonicrevived wrote:

Not sure if anyone else is having the issue, but in cutting edge sometimes the "Auto" mod will automatically be selected as I find myself starting maps without mods but suddenly it's playing on "Auto".
Well, does it happen only in Cutting Edge? Make sure that you are not pressing your Ctrl key when you start a map.
Trosk-
Well, this hasn't much importance and I'm not sure if this was posted earlier or it's a known "issue", but I didn't find anythig about this. I'm sorry if this is a duplicate or it is already known.

It's just, when you place your cursor on the left side of the "Now Playing" buttons on the main menu, they get stuck, like if you were placing it over the button and removing it instatly. (Doesn't happen with the Play and Stop buttons.)

Also, I noticed that this only happens on resolutions that are not 16:9. On my case I tried on various resolutions, getting this result only in 16:10 and 4:3 resolutions.

This video is recorded on 1440x900 (16:10)





Release streams: This happens on Beta and Cutting Edge, but not in Stable.
Nathanael
Dragging a new menu background to the osu! main menu makes the cursor change to a white box.
Hotfix is a skin refresh (ctrl + alt + shift + s).



Version: b20150702cuttingedge
Sensou Shin
Cutting edge b20150702
i found two bug:
1. https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3334457
2.If osu selecting a song what is outside range of star filter then i click to osu! button it's disappear.
VeilStar

Sensou Shin wrote:

Cutting edge b20150702
i found two bug:
1. https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3334457
2.If osu selecting a song what is outside range of star filter then i click to osu! button it's disappear.
Thanks for reporting but you posted it in the wrong thread, so I merged your post to the appropriate thread.

I can replicate 2. - To elaborate a bit: the "range of star filter" is the one in the options menu. If you select say a 5 star map, then go to the options menu and set it to display beatmaps upto 3 stars and click the osu! button in the corner it will expand and dissapear.

Could you tell us how to replicate the first one though?
chong601
Still kinda experiencing lower-than-usual FPS on osu!cuttingedge compared to osu!stable.

Worst affected on maps with heavy SB, song select and maps with videos

I am using i3-3110M and Intel HD 4000.

EDIT: I do use a slightly older Intel GPU driver because of issues with the GPU driver keeps disabling the laptop onboard sound
Trosk-
Also, on the bug that Sensou Shin said, both rankings and the Beatmap status are not shown. I guess it's like osu! doesn't recognize the map at all when the filters are activated and that map doesn't need to be shown.



Also, if you wait for the song that you have selected (the one what is out of range of the filters) to end, another song will play, and this one is gonna allow you to play it, even if it's not on the Beatmap panels. (the osu! logo starts to go at the BPM rhythm and the rankings are shown.) If you change the Grouping when this song is being played is gonna bug again, but this one will replay, not like the other one.

I hope I have not explained it too badly...

Sensou Shin

VeilStar wrote:

Sensou Shin wrote:

Cutting edge b20150702
i found two bug:
1. https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3334457
2.If osu selecting a song what is outside range of star filter then i click to osu! button it's disappear.
Thanks for reporting but you posted it in the wrong thread, so I merged your post to the appropriate thread.

I can replicate 2. - To elaborate a bit: the "range of star filter" is the one in the options menu. If you select say a 5 star map, then go to the options menu and set it to display beatmaps upto 3 stars and click the osu! button in the corner it will expand and dissapear.

Could you tell us how to replicate the first one though?
Sorry but i can't. It was a suprise to me :S
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abraker

chong601 wrote:

Still kinda experiencing lower-than-usual FPS on osu!cuttingedge compared to osu!stable.
Worst affected on maps with heavy SB, song select and maps with videos
I am using i3-3110M and Intel HD 4000.
EDIT: I do use a slightly older Intel GPU driver because of issues with the GPU driver keeps disabling the laptop onboard sound
Just linking a post since it has been almost a month. Seriously, I have to default to stable because if this. Any map greater than around 4 stars is unplayable hard to play due to all the lag hitting the notes is causing.
OsuMe65
Alignments of mod icons are different when Auto is enabled



without Auto enabled


with Auto enabled
Bara-
Click on the mods, and you'll see why this is this way
HT/DT/NC/FL are clickable
Trosk-

OsuMe65 wrote:

Alignments of mod icons are different when Auto is enabled

<images>
It's basicaly because of this (Auto is counted as a replay):

Tom94
Please check whether you can still get your cursor to corrupt when changing the background in the main menu. Also please check for other visual bugs and performance during gameplay. Could have dramatically improved. ;)
Trosk-

Tom94 wrote:

Please check whether you can still get your cursor to corrupt when changing the background in the main menu. Also please check for other visual bugs and performance during gameplay. Could have dramatically improved. ;)
Seems like the cursor problem when changing backgrounds is fixed. (Fun fact: First try I was a bit scared because it happened again but I was on Beta, I'm dumb)

Also I just checked the performance during gameplay and seems really similar to Beta, at least for me.
OsuMe65

Trosk- wrote:

Forgot to read the logs. At least that one solved my own problem.
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Trosk-
I have 2 monitors, monitor one is 1920x1080 (where I play osu!) and monitor two is 1280x1024. If I'm on FullScreen mode (on Monitor 1) and change to a resolution that is lower than the Monitor 2, it will detect the second monitor resolution as native (even if I am on monitor 1). I need to exit FullScreen mode and activate it again to have the Monitor 1 options available again.



Also, when I changed my resolution back to 1920x1080 (native) and I change to Windowed mode, it will hide the window borders and show it as "Custom" reolution. (Like on Tourney client windows, for example.)



This doesn't happen on Stable, only in Beta and CE.
Tom94
Which of the 2 monitors is set as your primary monitor?
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Trosk-

Tom94 wrote:

Which of the 2 monitors is set as your primary monitor?
The 1920x1080 one.

And with this last update (b20150708cuttingedge) seems like it's fixed, at least for me.
DeletedUser_4329079
With letterboxing enabled, the cursor will split from its trail iof you move it to the top of the screen.





If you move it to the bottom, you can see the desktop's cursor.
Trosk-

Default wrote:

With letterboxing enabled, the cursor will split from its trail iof you move it to the top of the screen.

If you move it to the bottom, you can see the desktop's cursor.
Well.. What resolution are you using? I can't replicate any of these this you say. Tried on various resolutions and enabling/disabling FullScreen. (with FullScreen disabled, it is normal to see the cursor, just in case.)
A Mystery
Going to the editor changes my desktop resolution to the osu! one (because the editor is not full screen). It restores after leaving the windowed song select (coming from the editor)
Some things like the numbers inside the circles will appear larger and different font (?) in the editor, as if I'm playing at a very low resolution. The editor also looks blurry (but that's normal with a lower resolution, it just looks more blurry than when not in the editor while still playing at 1280x800)

Also, I can't find the post back (it's somewhere in this thread), but the issue of things like closing an application and the resolution randomly changing to the osu! one after that is still occuring.

Some screenshots



Editor



Editor testing mode



Grid does not appear in the timing tab, not sure if this is intended. But as you can see, things like "timing setup panel" look very blurry, but I'm not sure if this is normal in windowed mode compared to full screen (both same resolutions)
DeletedUser_4329079

Trosk- wrote:

Default wrote:

With letterboxing enabled, the cursor will split from its trail iof you move it to the top of the screen.

If you move it to the bottom, you can see the desktop's cursor.
Well.. What resolution are you using? I can't replicate any of these this you say. Tried on various resolutions and enabling/disabling FullScreen. (with FullScreen disabled, it is normal to see the cursor, just in case.)
Fullscreen is enabled, 1180x617. I can upload a video if necessary.

Trosk-

Default wrote:

Fullscreen is enabled, 1180x617. I can upload a video if necessary.

You could have said before you are using a custo resolution ;_;

Seems like this issue only appears when using a Custom Resolution

I can get this effect too.

Edit: Seems like this only happens with some Custom resolutions, not all, I'm trying to figure out the reason... It's not because the aspect ratio because I tried to increase the resolution with the same aspect ratio and it doesnt happen anymore.

Edit 2: Well, I have been trying some resolutions for a long time, and I only got this result or issue with "HeightFullscreen = 617" (tried with so many different heights, and I only got this with 617, not even with 616 or 618), so, I don't know if it's because of that number in particular, but seems like it...


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Fredgido
Cutting edge OpenGL is just too heavy on cpu. I get half the fps ingame, 40-50 GL vs 80-90 DX. It is just limited by my cpu, on DX I get gpu utilization of 40% vs 20% on GL ingame.
The time plot of draw step is helpful, found out normal skins animation are too (cpu?) heavy, GL calls too heavy? Is vertex data even being buffered? Look at the comparison. Normal skin while playing is 40-50 fps, other skins are 70-80 fps.
osu skin vs other skin https://jii.moe/EJwEMS8u.png
effects kill the cpu https://jii.moe/4kw4zrU_.png


Have you looked on soft pagefaults? It is hitting too many here. Normally pagefaults are the main cause of stutter. DX osu hits 5 playing a replay
(video showing page faults per refresh DX) https://jii.moe/4yBIqrLd.mp4
but open GL hits 250 playing the same replay... what cpu cache do you guys have to not notice the stutter
(video showing page faults per refresh GL) https://jii.moe/NJzIcSId.mp4

Looks like I cannot move to the new version on my old laptop. I tried cutting on everything that consumes cpu on windows and it isn't enough. Maybe the new version is more gpu efficient but there is no point in that if the gpu doesn't even need to turbo because cpu is such bottleneck.
Tom94
Page faults don't have anything to do with CPU cache but with your RAM. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Page_fault I'd be curious what kind of results you'd get if you'd set your virtual memory's size to 0 (assuming you can close enough background applications for RAM size not to become an issue).

Yes, not all vertex data is buffered. The difference between the default skin and custom skins you are noticing are the small, blue, particles appearing with every hit. We do plan on buffering these. We are currently rewriting a huge portion of the rendering infrastructure to allow for easier optimizations like that in the future.

What kind of CPU do you have? I haven't heard of anyone where the CPU would be the bottleneck. Even without vertex buffering osu! just doesn't have many vertices in the first place. I am baffled that you are getting CPU capped at all.
Fredgido

Tom94 wrote:

Page faults don't have anything to do with CPU cache but with your RAM. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Page_fault I'd be curious what kind of results you'd get if you'd set your virtual memory's size to 0 (assuming you can close enough background applications for RAM size not to become an issue).
Windows task manager counts soft ones too. Yes they are orders of magnitude faster than hard ones but they affect or are symptoms of cpu performance problems. I went to my barebones windows profile to test it with the lowest ram utilization (no shitty windows services or background tasks), didn't get any hard fault ingame. Normally with nothing on the background windows copies everything that is needed to the RAM.
The cpu is a celeron m from 2008~
Drayne
I realized, if I play on cutting edge I get frame drops over and over again. I play, framerate is fine at 800 or something and then suddenly it drops really low for just one second, then it's normal again, then it drops again... It seems like it's happening especially if I play doubletime. My computer is old, but i never had this on stable version.
VeilStar
When selecting a different release stream (such as beta) and then selecting another release stream (such as stable) the game crashes, downloads some files, and then puts you on the release stream you were on before. I think I've posted this before but I can't (be arsed to) find it right now.
Rainbowdashie10
once I tried changing back to stabe (as a test) Osu! won't go back to stable but to let you know Osu cutting edge is pretty nice
power007
Just curious... why when I play other games on my discrete GT740m they use my video card on full and not touch integrated video card? While in osu! it working a bit strange... 40% of integrated video usage and 70% of discrete....

peppy
What happens if you switch to full-screen? Looks like one of your cards is being used for windows-level rendering, while the other is being used by the game?
power007

peppy wrote:

What happens if you switch to full-screen? Looks like one of your cards is being used for windows-level rendering, while the other is being used by the game?
Same deal. Just more usage of both GPU's. Also this problem is not related to the OpenGL or DirectX and has existed since the beginning of time ... Osu! can not decide which GPU to use. On the GPU, which is weaker than 740m - 1000 fps, and 740m - 500 fps. I think just because of that. Btw, if you're using integrated video, usage of discrete video obvious is - 0, and with intergrated video I got 500-900 fps, while with 740m only 500 max.

Tom94
Does your screen flicker black when enabling and disabling fullscreen?
power007

Tom94 wrote:

Does your screen flicker black when enabling and disabling fullscreen?
Yes. I'm 100% sure that full screen mode changes nothing in terms of using both GPUs. Only fps drops from 500+ to 300+
DeletedUser_4329079

Trosk- wrote:

Edit 2: Well, I have been trying some resolutions for a long time, and I only got this result or issue with "HeightFullscreen = 617" (tried with so many different heights, and I only got this with 617, not even with 616 or 618), so, I don't know if it's because of that number in particular, but seems like it...
It's true, what was the chance of me using just that resolution tho :?
Tom94

power007 wrote:

Tom94 wrote:

Does your screen flicker black when enabling and disabling fullscreen?
Yes. I'm 100% sure that full screen mode changes nothing in terms of using both GPUs. Only fps drops from 500+ to 300+
Did you already try enforcing your dedicated GPU in the nvidia control panel? Here is a video explaining exactly how to do it:
power007

Tom94 wrote:

Did you already try enforcing your dedicated GPU in the nvidia control panel?
Yes I've tried. Identical behavior of osu!. For example Borderland 2 using 7-10% of Intel GPU and 99% of NVidia GPU.
DeletedUser_4329079
In the editor, clicking on the song setup tab while in fullscreen mode makes the game lag and it sends me to desktop. Windowed mode fixes it.
bobbybobsenpwned
While on cutting edge (or beta) I can't alt-tab out of the game. It seems as if I actually do switch to another window, when i do so, but the image from osu persists and prevents me from seeing the other window i've switched too. The problem exists both when in fullscreen, or borderless

It seems the problem is only there, when I use my max resolution (1600x900), or have letterboxing activated.

My computer is a laptop, ASUS N76VJ, with windows 8.1, And here's the specs I could find about my computer
GhostFrog
I have the "Prefer no-video downloads" option selected, but osu!direct is still downloading videos by default. I've only tried it with 2 maps that have video (this and this, in case it matters), but it definitely downloaded the video for both.
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Drayne

Drayyne wrote:

I realized, if I play on cutting edge I get frame drops over and over again. I play, framerate is fine at 800 or something and then suddenly it drops really low for just one second, then it's normal again, then it drops again... It seems like it's happening especially if I play doubletime. My computer is old, but i never had this on stable version.
Just found out that the framedrops are gone if I restart osu!. But they are cooming back after 10-20 minutes playtime
Tom94
Can you make sure your system is not overheating and throttling down as a consequence? This is likely in case you are running on a laptop. Try using a frame limiter to reduce your framerate and see if the drops are still as severe.

If this doesn't help, please try closing all background applications while playing osu!.
Drayne

Tom94 wrote:

Can you make sure your system is not overheating and throttling down as a consequence? This is likely in case you are running on a laptop. Try using a frame limiter to reduce your framerate and see if the drops are still as severe.

If this doesn't help, please try closing all background applications while playing osu!.
I don't play on a laptop and my system is not overheating. I tried to cap fps, but it didn't help. Also closed all background applications, still didn't help. But as I said i a previous post, osu! ran perfectly fine on stable version.
Tom94
Comparing it with stable is not valid in the case of throttling. CE makes more use of the GPU, usually resulting in higher temperatures, but also higher frame rates.

Either way, if you can rule out heat and throttling (this can also happen on desktops), then could you make a screenshot of how the frame time display looks like during the stutters and without stutters for you? You can toggle the display using Ctrl+F11.
Trosk-
If you move the osu! window while it is on the welcome screen, the menu-background of the skin won't load. This gets fixed by reloading the skin.

Doesn't happen on Stable release stream.

Drayne

Tom94 wrote:

Comparing it with stable is not valid in the case of throttling. CE makes more use of the GPU, usually resulting in higher temperatures, but also higher frame rates.

Either way, if you can rule out heat and throttling (this can also happen on desktops), then could you make a screenshot of how the frame time display looks like during the stutters and without stutters for you? You can toggle the display using Ctrl+F11.
Ok, osu! is running good again, the problem was that my computer couldnt handle some storyboard stuff (the framedrops I mentioned just happened again, disabled storyboard and it worked). But I noticed, that if I move my cursor fast the cursor is flickering. Not really a big problem, just wanted to say it.
Tom94
What do you mean by flicker? Tearing? It happens both on stable and on cuttingedge if you are running in fullscreen mode or have windows aero disabled while not using VSync. There is no way around it unfortunately.
Drayne

Tom94 wrote:

What do you mean by flicker? Tearing? It happens both on stable and on cuttingedge if you are running in fullscreen mode or have windows aero disabled while not using VSync. There is no way around it unfortunately.
Yes, ok didn't know that as i used to play on stable in windowed mode and now on CE in letterboxing + fullscreen. Letterboxing is really nice btw, i love it and can't play without it anymore :) So osu! is running fine again, problem solved.
Kuraiko55
Hello folks,

relating to this post I made almost a month ago I was now able to make a video of the issue that appears from time to time when I play osu!.

In short:
Sometimes while playing any map in osu! the game is jerking for a split second, i.e. it is not running smoothly for a little moment most likely throwing me outa the beat and messing up my play.

Video-Link: https://youtu.be/9Tehv34hiPA
I added further information in the video description.

I appolagize in advance if the video and/or sound quality should be bad, for this is the first time I tryed video editing ^^

Greetz
Kuraiko
lolcubes
Having issues with vsync on fullscreen. As you can see, with VSync enabled, the fps don't have a limit at all. Setting 120/240 sets to 120/240 normally.
Using Intel HD4000.

EDIT: woooops forgot the image.
Shizuyi
In the Nvidia Driver you also can disable VSync in the Control Panel of the Driver.
I do not know if this is possible for integrated Graphics. Did you tried that?
Also i am sure you did, when its possible, but i ask just to be sure.
abraker
CE still seems to have memory leak(s) after hours of mapping. I mapped a mania map for 4-5 hours and the mem usage rose from ~450 mb to 1.2 gb. The client risks being unusable if you decide to play without restarting beforehand, leading to a black screen with no signs of input or output or even a generic windows crash.
lolcubes

Shizuyi wrote:

In the Nvidia Driver you also can disable VSync in the Control Panel of the Driver.
I do not know if this is possible for integrated Graphics. Did you tried that?
Also i am sure you did, when its possible, but i ask just to be sure.
When you use Intel IGPU, the nvidia options are disabled. I have tried forcing it in Intel settings, without effect.
Bara-
Play a map with Nightcore mod
Watch the replay
Turn off Nightcore
The speed/pitch is correct, but you still hear the added sounds (claps/cymbals/beats etc.)

Also, if you watch a replay with NC, and set play back speed to 0.5, it'll be normal pitched, but if you disable NC, it'll be lower pitched
Even more: If you set play back speed to 2, with NC on it'll be incredibly high pitched (<3), with NC off it'll be pitched like NC normally

So many NC bugs O.o

Kinda off-topic, when was x2 replay speed supported for DT/NC?
Trosk-

baraatje123 wrote:

Play a map with Nightcore mod
Watch the replay
Turn off Nightcore
The speed/pitch is correct, but you still hear the added sounds (claps/cymbals/beats etc.)

Also, if you watch a replay with NC, and set play back speed to 0.5, it'll be normal pitched, but if you disable NC, it'll be lower pitched
Even more: If you set play back speed to 2, with NC on it'll be incredibly high pitched (<3), with NC off it'll be pitched like NC normally
I can reproduce it, but I don't know if this can be "fixed" or not, since the added sounds are added on the beatmap itself when you put NC on... So, maybe it's "intended".

And the pitch thing, I think it's normal behaviour.

baraatje123 wrote:

Kinda off-topic, when was x2 replay speed supported for DT/NC?
At the same time as the feature to disable mods on replays, I believe.
Bara-
I think it's not inteded
Previously, with NC on and 0.5 speed, it played at low pitch
Now with NC toggled off and 0.5 speed it plays low pitched, it's normal pitched if NC is not toggled off
Trosk-

baraatje123 wrote:

I think it's not inteded
Previously, with NC on and 0.5 speed, it played at low pitch
Now with NC toggled off and 0.5 speed it plays low pitched, it's normal pitched if NC is not toggled off
Well.. Maybe you are right.. Let's wait for someone who can say something about this.
abraker

baraatje123 wrote:

lay a map with Nightcore mod
Watch the replay
Turn off Nightcore
The speed/pitch is correct, but you still hear the added sounds (claps/cymbals/beats etc.)

Also, if you watch a replay with NC, and set play back speed to 0.5, it'll be normal pitched, but if you disable NC, it'll be lower pitched
Even more: If you set play back speed to 2, with NC on it'll be incredibly high pitched (<3), with NC off it'll be pitched like NC normally

So many NC bugs O.o
Similiar thread with NC bug(s). And nobody STILL bothered to reply to it since.
Bara-

abraker wrote:

baraatje123 wrote:

lay a map with Nightcore mod
Watch the replay
Turn off Nightcore
The speed/pitch is correct, but you still hear the added sounds (claps/cymbals/beats etc.)

Also, if you watch a replay with NC, and set play back speed to 0.5, it'll be normal pitched, but if you disable NC, it'll be lower pitched
Even more: If you set play back speed to 2, with NC on it'll be incredibly high pitched (<3), with NC off it'll be pitched like NC normally

So many NC bugs O.o
Similiar thread with NC bug(s). And nobody STILL bothered to reply to it since.
Well, mod toggle only appears on CE (idk about Beta) so I didn't make a new thread
Diony
I made a quick video (and image) showing a bug with the Osu! button in song select. I'm not sure how to recreate it. Refreshing skin didn't affect it and it occurred on any song/game mode etc.

Edit: happens even after restarting
Trosk-

Dionysaw wrote:

I made a quick video (and image) showing a bug with the Osu! button in song select. I'm not sure how to recreate it. Refreshing skin didn't affect it and it occurred on any song/game mode etc.
Seems like something is broken on this build. I didn't do anything, just press the button and not moving the cursor after clicking and I got this effect too.

It is the same issue as here, I guess. p/4302697

Shizuyi
Got the same Problem.
NekoCoaster
+1 got the same issue here too
BanchoBot
Issue(s) in this thread have been addressed by the following changes:
  1. Fix osu! logo fade out being displayed weirdly at song select. (peppy)
The changes will be applied to builds newer than b20150715.3cuttingedge.

Please follow up in this thread if you believe more work needs to be done to fix the mentioned issues. If they have not yet been resolved, please provide any new details that may have arisen after this build.
Shizuyi
Since the Update today my osu! frequently changes back the stream to stable on his own accord. So i close osu! open it again a few hours later and it updates for 1min and im back on stable. I go back to gutting edge and close it later again. NOw when i open it it again updates and im on stable release stream. Dont know what this is exactly.

And second on Fullscreen Letterbox 1366x768 after playing a map my ranking panel disappears.
Jim
Problem Details: There seems to be a small bug with the client atm and the display of accuracy/level behind the ranking display. Whenever a song is quit partway through the stats aforementioned disappear(refer to picture provided). Upon completing a map however the panel returns to how it normally is. I've been able to re-create this bug multiple times and it persisted past restarting the game.


Video or screenshot showing the problem:




osu! version: 20150715.4cuttingedge
WujekGrzyb
That text is just invisible :D
It's heavy connected with the last fix reported t/259747. Please follow that thread for further info.
BanchoBot
Issue(s) in this thread have been addressed by the following changes:
  1. Revert "Fix osu! logo fade out being displayed weirdly at song select." (WujekGrzyb)
  2. Fix osu! logo and user panel behaviour at song select. (WujekGrzyb)
The changes will be applied to builds newer than b20150715.4cuttingedge.

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Topic Starter
TheVileOne
Can I have an update on programs that may cause crashes when running the game? I doubt we can do anything about it, but curious if the problem still persists with some programs.
tgi74000
I discovered a bug on the TargetPractice mode

How to reproduce:
- Enable targetpractive mode
- Watch a replay (Osu!)

You will see that there is a countdown at the start of the replay even if the map doesn't have one (which I think is not intended)
Video showing the bug : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lcVUKmSfF0g
RvNovae
I'm not getting exactly that behaviour (maybe because i just tried it with online rankings) but there's definitly some problem about that.
In my case it just starts the replay immediatly superfast and then slows down to the pace the replay is supposed to run on.
BanchoBot
Issue(s) in this thread have been addressed by the following changes:
  1. Fix Target Practice counting being applied to spectator/replay plays. (peppy)
The changes will be applied to builds newer than b20150716cuttingedge.

Please follow up in this thread if you believe more work needs to be done to fix the mentioned issues. If they have not yet been resolved, please provide any new details that may have arisen after this build.
Rainbowdashie10
Another problem i have is the fruit catcher won't move when i play CTB on a Song called Raise This Barn when i press the arrow keys and lags by being stuck sometimes :cry:
Topic Starter
TheVileOne
Please show us a screenshot of your frame time display when this problem occurs. Use ctrl + f11 to trigger it.
FarmerSA
Hello, i found bug frame with your stats (in game).
Problem description:
When you hover the mouse on frame in Experimental version, frame don't light up (screen), but in Stabe version frame light up (screen). Also sometimes informations light up even if the cursor is not above it (screen).
VeilStar

FarmerSA wrote:

Hello, i found bug frame with your stats (in game).
Problem description:
When you hover the mouse on frame in Experimental version, frame don't light up (screen), but in Stabe version frame light up (screen). Also sometimes informations light up even if the cursor is not above it (screen).

I can confirm this. It doesn't seem to change state after entering the song selection screen.
Meaning that if you're quick enough you can also cause it to stay lit up.

Adding to OP...
Diony
If you download a map via the osudirect button on the website while in a song (I was in a Team Vs multi match ) the osu!direct panel will stay after the song (or did). Have not tested for versions other than cutting edge and havent tried recreating yet.
nekoco
Hello, I'm here to report a bug. When I click on a link in osuthe game take me off, usually it's to show me the osu website. BUT now, nothing and at this moment osu is just a black screen. It's impossibble to use osu.

b20150414.2
Trosk-

konekoco wrote:

Hello, I'm here to report a bug. When I click on a link in osuthe game take me off, usually it's to show me the osu website. BUT now, nothing and at this moment osu is just a black screen. It's impossibble to use osu.

b20150414.2
This thread is for Cutting Edge only bugs. Since you are using Stable version, you should have made a thread yourself for your problem. Do not create another one, since I guess a mod will do it.

Regarding the issue, do you have the browser that you usually use set to default? If not, try to set it as Default Browser and try again...
Topic Starter
TheVileOne
I may have figured out how to trigger the Editor softlock. I was creating a guest map and I was creating a slider with many sliderpoints, and was making lots of shape adjustments to get it right. Testing however froze the game. I managed to check the frame time display the second time after creating another test shape, and there are a bunch of swap buffer spikes when entering test build.

The swap buffer spikes are an indicator that the game will soon just stop responding entirely.
Kon
I found a bug when playing with multiple monitors. When you launch the game in windowed mode it will launch osu! on whichever screen your mouse is on. However, when you launch osu! in fullscreen or letterboxing it launches on your main monitor. I like the way it works in windowed mode, because I personally play on my middle monitor but I use my left one as my main one, so I think that should stay but be compatible with letterboxing and even fullscreen.
Trosk-

Kon wrote:

I found a bug when playing with multiple monitors. When you launch the game in windowed mode it will launch osu! on whichever screen your mouse is on. However, when you launch osu! in fullscreen or letterboxing it launches on your main monitor. I like the way it works in windowed mode, because I personally play on my middle monitor but I use my left one as my main one, so I think that should stay but be compatible with letterboxing and even fullscreen.
Well... That's not a bug at all. p/4264899
BanchoBot
Issue(s) in this thread have been addressed by the following changes:
  1. Fix local user panel not handling hover events. (TheVileOne)
The changes will be applied to builds newer than b20150719.3cuttingedge.

Please follow up in this thread if you believe more work needs to be done to fix the mentioned issues. If they have not yet been resolved, please provide any new details that may have arisen after this build.
DeletedUser_4329079

VeilStar wrote:

I'm not entirely sure what the hell was going on here...
I messed around with the slidervelocity causing my sliderends to be unsapped, and this happened...

I'm not entirely sure if this is cuttingedge-specific or not.
When I saved the map and re-opened it in the editor didn't say my sliders were unsapped anymore.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRZNV6scCl0
This is still happening, I had the exact same issue yesterday on cutting edge while trying to fix unsnapped slider ends. Copy-pasting them on the same place solved it.
LiquidPL
Hi,

I guess I have some problem with game performance on cuttingedge. Quite some time ago (when the ce45 branch merged with cuttingedge IIRC) i was able to get like 600-800 FPS on the new OpenGL renderer. However now, I get only like 150-350.

I noticed that it happens only on maps with videos, and after disabling videos in settings altogether, I noticed that the FPS increased (but not to what it was previously)
Tom94
Can you post the contents of gl_info.txt in your osu! folder? It should exist on cutting edge.
LiquidPL

Tom94 wrote:

Can you post the contents of gl_info.txt in your osu! folder? It should exist on cutting edge.
Here goes: http://pastebin.com/wVi8ET0b

//EDIT: I'm on latest Windows 10 Insider Preview if that's important.
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