Ugghh sorry, was kinda drunk and didn't notice it was actually Drezi voting me. Sorry Sakura! 
I'm still keeping my vote cause' you stole my number.
I'm still keeping my vote cause' you stole my number.
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Except i didn't do any of that.Zexion wrote:
You liar Sakura, you stole my number six and then accuse me of being scum. That's low!
Vote: Sakura
How the hell do you confuse drezi with me, tho i guess for scum all town must look the sameZexion wrote:
Ugghh sorry, was kinda drunk and didn't notice it was actually Drezi voting me. Sorry Sakura!
I'm still keeping my vote cause' you stole my number.
Vote: Zexion
OMGUS and all that.
I wonder how you got to this... Zexion's vote is cool tho.Drezi wrote:
Alright guys my reads so far:
TOWN:
Static Noise Bird
Sakura
SCUM:
Zexion
NULL:
Everyone else
Vote: Zexion
Everyone should join this wagon, it has unicorns and, a pot of gold and a rainbow, not exactly in that order.
Also i love how the title still says 0/9 confirmed.
I thought when games opened up they'd be more active than this... this is gonna be a looong day.
Where are the others
I feel like Drezi's reads are just for rvs therefore insignificant. If it's not, I would like to know the reasons as well. He ignored my vote too. (it's an rv but still)
and unicorns aren't real :< [spoiler]I wish they are[/color]
I feel like Drezi's reads are just for rvs therefore insignificant. If it's not, I would like to know the reasons as well. He ignored my vote too. (it's an rv but still)
and unicorns aren't real :< [spoiler]I wish they are[/color]
fuck tags lmao
You did stole my number six position.Sakura wrote:
Except i didn't do any of that.Zexion wrote:
You liar Sakura, you stole my number six and then accuse me of being scum. That's low!
Vote: SakuraHow the hell do you confuse drezi with me, tho i guess for scum all town must look the sameZexion wrote:
Ugghh sorry, was kinda drunk and didn't notice it was actually Drezi voting me. Sorry Sakura!
I'm still keeping my vote cause' you stole my number.
Vote: Zexion
OMGUS and all that.
Also this wagon confirms Sakura+Drezi scumteam!... maybe.
Yeah i was thinking about that earlier, but thing is the way he put me as town before I even posted felt like some sort of early buddying so when he would flip scum people would trace back their posts and look at that then try to tie me up with him. Although i dont remember much of Drezi scum, and even if he was scum, I highly doubt he would go through such a coordinate pre-game plan of suiciding to take me down with him.
So in other words, i hardly feel that scum would've come up with such a risky tactic, and it's more than likely just town trying to get reactions out of RVS. And even in the low chance that he was scum, i doubt he'd be scum together with Zexion, so there's another point in favor towards voting Zexion.
Of course this is probably just stuff im making up in my head or being paranoid and trying to figure out how he put me as a townread before i even posted, and i could just be missing the entire point of it, but it's not like there's much else to go on atm.
Do you have any reads or comments gained from what little has been posted?
So in other words, i hardly feel that scum would've come up with such a risky tactic, and it's more than likely just town trying to get reactions out of RVS. And even in the low chance that he was scum, i doubt he'd be scum together with Zexion, so there's another point in favor towards voting Zexion.
Of course this is probably just stuff im making up in my head or being paranoid and trying to figure out how he put me as a townread before i even posted, and i could just be missing the entire point of it, but it's not like there's much else to go on atm.
Do you have any reads or comments gained from what little has been posted?
Also my initial vote on zexion was something something mafiascum something something thor something something RVS something something wagons something something reactions.
My vote is now serious.
My vote is now serious.
You are being too paranoid. Those reads can't be serious, honestly I just thought he made them up and randomly voted for me. All posting so far IMO has been RVS (specially those from mine). Also if your remember Drezi was scum on Medical Mafia if I remember correctly, if you want to go back to past games.Sakura wrote:
Yeah i was thinking about that earlier, but thing is the way he put me as town before I even posted felt like some sort of early buddying so when he would flip scum people would trace back their posts and look at that then try to tie me up with him. Although i dont remember much of Drezi scum, and even if he was scum, I highly doubt he would go through such a coordinate pre-game plan of suiciding to take me down with him.
So in other words, i hardly feel that scum would've come up with such a risky tactic, and it's more than likely just town trying to get reactions out of RVS. And even in the low chance that he was scum, i doubt he'd be scum together with Zexion, so there's another point in favor towards voting Zexion.
Of course this is probably just stuff im making up in my head or being paranoid and trying to figure out how he put me as a townread before i even posted, and i could just be missing the entire point of it, but it's not like there's much else to go on atm.
Do you have any reads or comments gained from what little has been posted?
I would prefer to have imput from all players before making serious voting, don't you think so?
Not exactly, people do everything for a reason, even their posts in RVS, come from the information they have by their Role PM, so it's possible to extract information even from RVS posts.
Drezi felt the need to put those 2 ppl as townreads (one which was me when i hadn't even posted) and you as scumread (who hadn't even posted either).
You decide to ignore the fact that this could stem from the possibility of Drezi having some sort of pre-game plan of trying to designate you as a target mislynch, you don't see anything odd with it.
Possible reasons:
- You're scum, so you know that's obviously not the reason.
- You didn't actually bother trying to analyze the post.
- You're just derp.
I'm trying to figure out which of the 3 possible reasons it is, also im trying to figure out why did you decide to stick with your vote on me, instead of moving the more suspicious RVS vote of Drezi after you realized it wasn't a post made by me.
I've already outlined by own reasons by which i think it's probably not a scum tactic, but you didn't even feel a slight bit of need to check what was going in Drezi's mind when he made the reads list? I find that hard to believe.
On the other part of your post, yes i know he was scum in medical mafia, but i don't remember much of what he did in that game, and i wasn't on that game from the start either. All I care about a person's scum game right now is how they perform early game, which is the state at which we currently are at right now.
Drezi felt the need to put those 2 ppl as townreads (one which was me when i hadn't even posted) and you as scumread (who hadn't even posted either).
You decide to ignore the fact that this could stem from the possibility of Drezi having some sort of pre-game plan of trying to designate you as a target mislynch, you don't see anything odd with it.
Possible reasons:
- You're scum, so you know that's obviously not the reason.
- You didn't actually bother trying to analyze the post.
- You're just derp.
I'm trying to figure out which of the 3 possible reasons it is, also im trying to figure out why did you decide to stick with your vote on me, instead of moving the more suspicious RVS vote of Drezi after you realized it wasn't a post made by me.
I've already outlined by own reasons by which i think it's probably not a scum tactic, but you didn't even feel a slight bit of need to check what was going in Drezi's mind when he made the reads list? I find that hard to believe.
On the other part of your post, yes i know he was scum in medical mafia, but i don't remember much of what he did in that game, and i wasn't on that game from the start either. All I care about a person's scum game right now is how they perform early game, which is the state at which we currently are at right now.
Also i missed the last part of your post.
Yes i'd also like input from the other players, but that doesn't prevent me from interacting and forming reads from what has been posted or from people that are actually here to reply to my questions or interact with them.
Yes i'd also like input from the other players, but that doesn't prevent me from interacting and forming reads from what has been posted or from people that are actually here to reply to my questions or interact with them.
@Sakura - I agree with your thoughts on Drezi. One for one in day one seems outright stupid. Though maybe you two are scum and then since you dissolved the idea, people won't think you're scum in case Drezi died and flipped scum. Idk, I'm being paranoid too
Mine and SNB's vote are definitely RVS so he's null just like everyone else.
If I recall correctly, Drezi was parroting on Medical Mafia and just waited for someone to vote the other at the end for easy scum win.
Mine and SNB's vote are definitely RVS so he's null just like everyone else.
It's not really bad to suspect someone even at this part of the game, don't you think so? Besides, not getting reactions from you would be counter-productive as town imo since for town, everyone is a possible mafia. Also, I felt an omgus on your vote. You even /confirmed/ Sakura+Drezi scumteam.Zexion wrote:
I would prefer to have imput from all players before making serious voting, don't you think so?
If I recall correctly, Drezi was parroting on Medical Mafia and just waited for someone to vote the other at the end for easy scum win.
calling Jess to post something. Saw her posting in forum games a while ago so she should've noticed this thread.
I know yours is, there is literally nothing that can be extracted from your post since it was the very first post.Navizel wrote:
Mine and SNB's vote are definitely RVS so he's null just like everyone else
SNB, while probably nitpicky one could say "Why Ace, why not continue and wagon Drezi for reactions".
And from there you can still deploying a pletora of reasons to start interrogating people and figuring out what they're thinking and discussion starts and RVS ends.
I usually dont put much into account into the early posts, other than "why X instead of Y", but while Drezi's post was amuzing and suspicious, my current pet peeve is why Zexion decided to not question it, heck he even calls me and Drezi a scumteam... then follows it with a "maybe", uncommital, easy to flee if things dont go his way, and not actually trying to read people.
Sakura wrote:
Not exactly, people do everything for a reason, even their posts in RVS, come from the information they have by their Role PM, so it's possible to extract information even from RVS posts.
Drezi felt the need to put those 2 ppl as townreads (one which was me when i hadn't even posted) and you as scumread (who hadn't even posted either).
You decide to ignore the fact that this could stem from the possibility of Drezi having some sort of pre-game plan of trying to designate you as a target mislynch, you don't see anything odd with it.
Possible reasons:
- You're scum, so you know that's obviously not the reason.
- You didn't actually bother trying to analyze the post.
- You're just derp.
I'm trying to figure out which of the 3 possible reasons it is, also im trying to figure out why did you decide to stick with your vote on me, instead of moving the more suspicious RVS vote of Drezi after you realized it wasn't a post made by me.
I've already outlined by own reasons by which i think it's probably not a scum tactic, but you didn't even feel a slight bit of need to check what was going in Drezi's mind when he made the reads list? I find that hard to believe.
On the other part of your post, yes i know he was scum in medical mafia, but i don't remember much of what he did in that game, and i wasn't on that game from the start either. All I care about a person's scum game right now is how they perform early game, which is the state at which we currently are at right now.
Ignore that last post, it was my internet trolling me.
Also reason two pretty much sums it up. It didn't make sense to overthink that list. The part where I confused you was for a silly joke about the number six, and it was definitely a mistake from my part... I don't know which else to say.
Because I wouldn't know how to make that assumption this early in the game? You surely don't believe I can make that claim seriously only because two people are voting for me?
Because the total opposite is still a posibility: The same way you're analyizing his "reads" two posts after the game started, its the same way he just made them up as a silly excuse for RVS. I did care about putting two people in his "town reads", but then again, why would he put me in the "scum" list?Sakura wrote:
Not exactly, people do everything for a reason, even their posts in RVS, come from the information they have by their Role PM, so it's possible to extract information even from RVS posts.
Drezi felt the need to put those 2 ppl as townreads (one which was me when i hadn't even posted) and you as scumread (who hadn't even posted either).
You decide to ignore the fact that this could stem from the possibility of Drezi having some sort of pre-game plan of trying to designate you as a target mislynch, you don't see anything odd with it.
Possible reasons:
- You're scum, so you know that's obviously not the reason.
- You didn't actually bother trying to analyze the post.
- You're just derp.
I'm trying to figure out which of the 3 possible reasons it is, also im trying to figure out why did you decide to stick with your vote on me, instead of moving the more suspicious RVS vote of Drezi after you realized it wasn't a post made by me.
I've already outlined by own reasons by which i think it's probably not a scum tactic, but you didn't even feel a slight bit of need to check what was going in Drezi's mind when he made the reads list? I find that hard to believe.
On the other part of your post, yes i know he was scum in medical mafia, but i don't remember much of what he did in that game, and i wasn't on that game from the start either. All I care about a person's scum game right now is how they perform early game, which is the state at which we currently are at right now.
Also reason two pretty much sums it up. It didn't make sense to overthink that list. The part where I confused you was for a silly joke about the number six, and it was definitely a mistake from my part... I don't know which else to say.
Of course it doesn't prevent you, but I would expect more votes in order to make asosiations. When you're missing half the pieces is pretty hard to complete the puzzle, isn't it? My idea there wasn't obviously "You can't think until everyone has posted" but rather "I would like to see how each one interacts before getting my reads".Sakura wrote:
Also i missed the last part of your post.
Yes i'd also like input from the other players, but that doesn't prevent me from interacting and forming reads from what has been posted or from people that are actually here to reply to my questions or interact with them.
Sakura wrote:
I usually dont put much into account into the early posts, other than "why X instead of Y", but while Drezi's post was amuzing and suspicious, my current pet peeve is why Zexion decided to not question it, heck he even calls me and Drezi a scumteam... then follows it with a "maybe", uncommital, easy to flee if things dont go his way, and not actually trying to read people.
Because I wouldn't know how to make that assumption this early in the game? You surely don't believe I can make that claim seriously only because two people are voting for me?
My thoughts exactly.Sakura wrote:
my current pet peeve is why Zexion decided to not question it, heck he even calls me and Drezi a scumteam... then follows it with a "maybe", uncommital, easy to flee if things dont go his way, and not actually trying to read people.
I don't know about SNB. I searched his past game and I found Medical Mafia. The first was an RV on Sonatora and SNB voted him too though there were others before his vote so I can't really refer to that. I'm just going to say his vote here is really just an RV.
While yeah, im missing most of the picture, if i consider your current posts scummy im going to dig deeper into your thoughts, to try to either solidify that scumread or to see if im wrong and you're actually town, you don't seem to be helping much in that regard. There's something wrong in your thought process. You say you dont have a clear scumread on me, and you're voting me out of entirely RVS reasons. That is valid but... are you just going to sit there looking at the sky with your vote parked until every single person decides to do something Non-RVS-like? Like... you don't even seem to try to sort me out, you ask questions that seem like they might be trying to sort what im dong, yet you're drawing no conclusion from them.
Yeah, i know you probably wouldn't know how to make that assumption in the game, but the way you're drawing the conclusion comes from no more than an OMGUS. "Mommy, mommy they are voting me they must be bad people!", i would assume if you're voting me, for RVS or otherwise you intend to interact with me, and strengthen or cancel your scumread, but i still DONT see you doing anything of the sort with any of the things you're asking me. You haven't even tried to figure out a scum motivation for what i'm doing, you're just sitting there doing nothing while im here, and around, and open to answer questions and interact. You don't seem to be interested in actually sorting people, just because some people are missing doesn't mean you can't interact with someone and find their alignment.
Disclaimer: However that's more over my playstyle since i get reads from interaction much more than just reading what people do, while is a starting point, i usually get stronger reads from interaction, and while this is my playstyle, it may not be something you're used to, but i still see you... doing... NOTHING, with the questions you're asking.
Yeah, i know you probably wouldn't know how to make that assumption in the game, but the way you're drawing the conclusion comes from no more than an OMGUS. "Mommy, mommy they are voting me they must be bad people!", i would assume if you're voting me, for RVS or otherwise you intend to interact with me, and strengthen or cancel your scumread, but i still DONT see you doing anything of the sort with any of the things you're asking me. You haven't even tried to figure out a scum motivation for what i'm doing, you're just sitting there doing nothing while im here, and around, and open to answer questions and interact. You don't seem to be interested in actually sorting people, just because some people are missing doesn't mean you can't interact with someone and find their alignment.
Disclaimer: However that's more over my playstyle since i get reads from interaction much more than just reading what people do, while is a starting point, i usually get stronger reads from interaction, and while this is my playstyle, it may not be something you're used to, but i still see you... doing... NOTHING, with the questions you're asking.
I was just explaining how you can generate discussion even from the 2nd post. Of course not many like to do wagons from RVS, while i think they are a good way to get reactions, others may disagree. This is a newbie game and i'm trying to teach while also playing the game.Navizel wrote:
I don't know about SNB. I searched his past game and I found Medical Mafia. The first was an RV on Sonatora and SNB voted him too though there were others before his vote so I can't really refer to that. I'm just going to say his vote here is really just an RV.
Topic Starter
Vote Count 1.02
[2] Zexion -- Drezi, Sakura
[1] Ace Timing -- Static Noise Bird
[1] Drezi -- Navizel
[1] Sakura -- Zexion
[0] -[Jess]- --
[0] Hika --
[0] Navizel --
[0] sLaiNi --
[0] Static Noise Bird --
[0] No Lynch -
Not Voting -- -[Jess]-, Ace Timing, Hika, sLaiNi
With 9 alive, it's 5 to lynch.
Deadline is July 3 at 3:30PM CST (GMT-6).
[2] Zexion -- Drezi, Sakura
[1] Ace Timing -- Static Noise Bird
[1] Drezi -- Navizel
[1] Sakura -- Zexion
[0] -[Jess]- --
[0] Hika --
[0] Navizel --
[0] sLaiNi --
[0] Static Noise Bird --
[0] No Lynch -
Not Voting -- -[Jess]-, Ace Timing, Hika, sLaiNi
With 9 alive, it's 5 to lynch.
Deadline is July 3 at 3:30PM CST (GMT-6).
Basically i see Zexion so far as being... Reactive, even from his RVS post, to him calling the possible scumteam, to his replies to me, which some include questions with barely any follow up or conclusion.
Of course, i do admit that without everyone else here, it's only goint to stay a null-scum read and seeing how he plays with other people interacting with him, but i feel very comfortable with leaving my vote there for the time being.
Of course, i do admit that without everyone else here, it's only goint to stay a null-scum read and seeing how he plays with other people interacting with him, but i feel very comfortable with leaving my vote there for the time being.
Isn't that exactly the same vote you made after I voted you? I hardly find that my vote and post sucks so much since you did pretty much the same. Also why the heck are you so worried about having a vote on yourself, afraid we may wagon and lynch you in 5 minutes? Or you must mantain a clean obvtown status with no suspicion around you?Sakura wrote:
While yeah, im missing most of the picture, if i consider your current posts scummy im going to dig deeper into your thoughts, to try to either solidify that scumread or to see if im wrong and you're actually town, you don't seem to be helping much in that regard. There's something wrong in your thought process. You say you dont have a clear scumread on me, and you're voting me out of entirely RVS reasons. That is valid but... are you just going to sit there looking at the sky with your vote parked until every single person decides to do something Non-RVS-like? Like... you don't even seem to try to sort me out, you ask questions that seem like they might be trying to sort what im dong, yet you're drawing no conclusion from them.
Yeah, i know you probably wouldn't know how to make that assumption in the game, but the way you're drawing the conclusion comes from no more than an OMGUS. "Mommy, mommy they are voting me they must be bad people!", i would assume if you're voting me, for RVS or otherwise you intend to interact with me, and strengthen or cancel your scumread, but i still DONT see you doing anything of the sort with any of the things you're asking me. You haven't even tried to figure out a scum motivation for what i'm doing, you're just sitting there doing nothing while im here, and around, and open to answer questions and interact. You don't seem to be interested in actually sorting people, just because some people are missing doesn't mean you can't interact with someone and find their alignment.
Disclaimer: However that's more over my playstyle since i get reads from interaction much more than just reading what people do, while is a starting point, i usually get stronger reads from interaction, and while this is my playstyle, it may not be something you're used to, but i still see you... doing... NOTHING, with the questions you're asking.
Sure, if you want me to talk and do something about the game then have a look at Navizel: all his posts have been "yeah I agree with Sakura in this and this" and you're not saying anything about that. (Save the part when he looked for Sonatora's and Drezi earlyplay, but that was because I mentioned Medical Mafia)
SNB I can't seriously read anything with a single post.
Drezi made up that list. I see no reason for me being on scum and you and SNB being town, heck, I would have believed it more if it was Navizel and SNB because those two posted before him. You being on his "town-reads" leads me to believe it was pure randomness.
BTW, I concede and agree I should leave this passive play and make my own moves.
Yes, I made an OMGUS vote, then you turned around and OMGUS'd Drezi too, with again as mentioned before an uncommital read. Your vote doesnt scare me, i'm just wondering why the fuck you're doing nothing with it, because my view of a town person would be trying to decipher is if im town or not, not just sit there and do nothing and hope the world falls on me.
Since you bring up Navizel, one thing i've noticed is that he's... playing differently from what I remember, Instead of resorting to one-liners he seems to be actually trying to express his thoughts. This is entirely different from what I remember from either alignment of Navizel and im just thinking it might be an improvement in playstyle.
The "Yeah I agree" comes backed up, so i didnt pay it much mind, do you disagree? if so why?.
The SNB thing was just an example of how you can generate discussion even from the 2nd post of the thread u.u
Yeah i agree it was probably pure randomness, and i've already stated as such and why, so why did you feel the need to mention it again?
Since you bring up Navizel, one thing i've noticed is that he's... playing differently from what I remember, Instead of resorting to one-liners he seems to be actually trying to express his thoughts. This is entirely different from what I remember from either alignment of Navizel and im just thinking it might be an improvement in playstyle.
The "Yeah I agree" comes backed up, so i didnt pay it much mind, do you disagree? if so why?.
The SNB thing was just an example of how you can generate discussion even from the 2nd post of the thread u.u
Yeah i agree it was probably pure randomness, and i've already stated as such and why, so why did you feel the need to mention it again?
And me trying to figure out whether you're town or not involves me leaving that vote there for the moment. Because as I've said that's the best place it can be at the moment, while the other 4 people say something.Sakura wrote:
Yes, I made an OMGUS vote, then you turned around and OMGUS'd Drezi too, with again as mentioned before an uncommital read. Your vote doesnt scare me, i'm just wondering why the fuck you're doing nothing with it, because my view of a town person would be trying to decipher is if im town or not, not just sit there and do nothing and hope the world falls on me.
Since you bring up Navizel, one thing i've noticed is that he's... playing differently from what I remember, Instead of resorting to one-liners he seems to be actually trying to express his thoughts. This is entirely different from what I remember from either alignment of Navizel and im just thinking it might be an improvement in playstyle.
The "Yeah I agree" comes backed up, so i didnt pay it much mind, do you disagree? if so why?.
The SNB thing was just an example of how you can generate discussion even from the 2nd post of the thread u.u
Yeah i agree it was probably pure randomness, and i've already stated as such and why, so why did you feel the need to mention it again?
Oh, so now agreeing to everything other person says and playing passively (i.e. following other players ideas and being reactive just like I was) is an improvement on playstyle? Are you serious? I remember doing the same (with the "backed up" part) and ended up accused for parroting. Silly that you find there's nothing wrong with that.
Okay e.e
I brought Drezi again because I was mentioning every player that has posted so far. Nothing more to say.
Also since you're obviously reading Navizel's posts, to notice he's agreeing with me what do you think of this:
Navizel wrote:
calling Jess to post something. Saw her posting in forum games a while ago so she should've noticed this thread.
It tells me nothing at all and keeps with the same attitude. Gameplay-wise is a totally irrelevant line. (i.e. there was no need to mention that)Sakura wrote:
Also since you're obviously reading Navizel's posts, to notice he's agreeing with me what do you think of this:Navizel wrote:
calling Jess to post something. Saw her posting in forum games a while ago so she should've noticed this thread.
By gameplay-wise I meant "if we are talking about contributing to the game", sorry if you didn't get the idea, that wasn't a good way to word it. 
It's still kinda early to call something like that parroting, besides he directly quoted my post and said that it was his thoughts exactly, parroting is different, unless you think you shouldn't agree with what other player says?Zexion wrote:
And me trying to figure out whether you're town or not involves me leaving that vote there for the moment. Because as I've said that's the best place it can be at the moment, while the other 4 people say something.Sakura wrote:
Yes, I made an OMGUS vote, then you turned around and OMGUS'd Drezi too, with again as mentioned before an uncommital read. Your vote doesnt scare me, i'm just wondering why the fuck you're doing nothing with it, because my view of a town person would be trying to decipher is if im town or not, not just sit there and do nothing and hope the world falls on me.
Since you bring up Navizel, one thing i've noticed is that he's... playing differently from what I remember, Instead of resorting to one-liners he seems to be actually trying to express his thoughts. This is entirely different from what I remember from either alignment of Navizel and im just thinking it might be an improvement in playstyle.
The "Yeah I agree" comes backed up, so i didnt pay it much mind, do you disagree? if so why?.
The SNB thing was just an example of how you can generate discussion even from the 2nd post of the thread u.u
Yeah i agree it was probably pure randomness, and i've already stated as such and why, so why did you feel the need to mention it again?
Oh, so now agreeing to everything other person says and playing passively (i.e. following other players ideas and being reactive just like I was) is an improvement on playstyle? Are you serious? I remember doing the same (with the "backed up" part) and ended up accused for parroting. Silly that you find there's nothing wrong with that.
Okay e.e
I brought Drezi again because I was mentioning every player that has posted so far. Nothing more to say.
Parroting is when you contribute nothing to the thread other than what's already been said by someone else, but in this case, do you think there was something else he could've contributed to it? OH SUPRISE! he did, he talked about Jess, so no, it's not parroting, he agrees with my stance re-you.
So basically trying to figure out whether im town or not involves voting me... and... doing nothing else? or did you expect to magically divine your alignment like a day cop when other people started posting.
Do you think there might be any compelling and alignment indicative reason for Jess not posting here?Zexion wrote:
It tells me nothing at all and keeps with the same attitude. Gameplay-wise is a totally irrelevant line. (i.e. there was no need to mention that)
If it's an irrelevant line, in addition to your assesment of Navi's "parroting" what does that tell you about his alignment?
Ok maybe im just kinda mad that no one's doing anything after a few hours of no one being around at all u.u
Bah, whatever, the tone and stances on Zexion's words, seems he firmly believes this is the best way to go for him, so i'll just look somewhere else.
Unvote
Vote: Navizel
1) Why did you think it was relevant to say that Jess was posting in forum games, but not here? Do you think she's purposefully dodging the thread when the day only started a few hours ago?
2) If you agree with my stance re-zexion what do you think of his later posting and his explanation of his uncommital scumteam post? We've been discussing for a while, if you agree with me, you certainly have something to comment in everything that's been said, yet you didn't say anything.
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Vote: Navizel
1) Why did you think it was relevant to say that Jess was posting in forum games, but not here? Do you think she's purposefully dodging the thread when the day only started a few hours ago?
2) If you agree with my stance re-zexion what do you think of his later posting and his explanation of his uncommital scumteam post? We've been discussing for a while, if you agree with me, you certainly have something to comment in everything that's been said, yet you didn't say anything.
Calling for Jess just means I want her to post and contribute something to the game. I didn't call on everyone else because I checked their history and they weren't online when the game started. However, Jess was.
Let's go a bit more in depth then:Sakura wrote:
It's still kinda early to call something like that parroting, besides he directly quoted my post and said that it was his thoughts exactly, parroting is different, unless you think you shouldn't agree with what other player says?
Parroting is when you contribute nothing to the thread other than what's already been said by someone else, but in this case, do you think there was something else he could've contributed to it? OH SUPRISE! he did, he talked about Jess, so no, it's not parroting, he agrees with my stance re-you.
So basically trying to figure out whether im town or not involves voting me... and... doing nothing else? or did you expect to magically divine your alignment like a day cop when other people started posting.
OH WHAT A GREAT CONTRIBUTION TO THE IDEA. I can see a big way to contribute with this: by voting. But yet he didn't. The other lines are about the earlyplays I commented before.Navizel wrote:
My thoughts exactly.Sakura wrote:
my current pet peeve is why Zexion decided to not question it, heck he even calls me and Drezi a scumteam... then follows it with a "maybe", uncommital, easy to flee if things dont go his way, and not actually trying to read people.
I don't know about SNB. I searched his past game and I found Medical Mafia. The first was an RV on Sonatora and SNB voted him too though there were others before his vote so I can't really refer to that. I'm just going to say his vote here is really just an RV.
The other contribution to the idea he'd agreed on was pretty meh. Stating the obvious and seriously, how could I have /confirmed/ a scumteam by just two people voting me? (But we talked about this)
I don't expect magic. I expect conversation, reactions and overall contributing to the game.
Was online when the game started or... was online when you called her.Navizel wrote:
Calling for Jess just means I want her to post and contribute something to the game. I didn't call on everyone else because I checked their history and they weren't online when the game started. However, Jess was.
Idk, im just finding it kinda odd that you decided to call Jess of all people that haven't posted.
Also @Zexion, you really need to re-read on what's Parroting. What else could have Navizel commented other than what he had already commented on a.k.a, the Drezi reads list and our discussion.
Although you do raise a good point about the voting, but i thought it makes sense since i thought he also finds Drezi suspicious. I'm gonna re-look at Navi brb.
I think we all can agree lurking is more like a scum-tell. But Navizel simply stated something a player should do. As I said before, its a game irrelevant line: he could have done the same without saying it.Sakura wrote:
Do you think there might be any compelling and alignment indicative reason for Jess not posting here?Zexion wrote:
It tells me nothing at all and keeps with the same attitude. Gameplay-wise is a totally irrelevant line. (i.e. there was no need to mention that)
If it's an irrelevant line, in addition to your assesment of Navi's "parroting" what does that tell you about his alignment?
Ok maybe im just kinda mad that no one's doing anything after a few hours of no one being around at all u.u
Let me just put my ideas to test. If it doesn't work or something else that deserves my attention happens, I'll change my vote.Sakura wrote:
Bah, whatever, the tone and stances on Zexion's words, seems he firmly believes this is the best way to go for him, so i'll just look somewhere else.
Right now I share your madness about no one else posting u.u
^Navizel wrote:
Where are the others
I feel like Drezi's reads are just for rvs therefore insignificant. If it's not, I would like to know the reasons as well. He ignored my vote too. (it's an rv but still)
and unicorns aren't real :< [spoiler]I wish they are[/color]
@Zexion.
I think it's when there weren't any posts that I decided to check everyone's post history and see if there are people who were online but didn't post anything to this thread. Then I saw her posted something in forum games. I didn't really see her online the exact time she posted. So basically I called her during the game and after she posted something.Sakura wrote:
Was online when the game started or... was online when you called her.Navizel wrote:
Calling for Jess just means I want her to post and contribute something to the game. I didn't call on everyone else because I checked their history and they weren't online when the game started. However, Jess was.
Yeah, I just checked and her last post was somewhere around 2 hours ago.
It doesnt show that she's currently online tho.
Possible Reasons:
- She had limited time so decided to just post something in a forum game rather than an RV here.
- She's scum avoiding the thread <- Very unlikely imo, what motivation would there be for a scum to avoid the thread at this point, besides any newb scum would've beetlejuiced by now.
- ? Can't think of others.
It doesnt show that she's currently online tho.
Possible Reasons:
- She had limited time so decided to just post something in a forum game rather than an RV here.
- She's scum avoiding the thread <- Very unlikely imo, what motivation would there be for a scum to avoid the thread at this point, besides any newb scum would've beetlejuiced by now.
- ? Can't think of others.
Hmmm... That's the same quick conclusion I got from the list. But I guess that's the reason Drezi didn't include him in his "town reads". You didn't say anything about me yet so there was no way to agree on something.Sakura wrote:
^Navizel wrote:
Where are the others
I feel like Drezi's reads are just for rvs therefore insignificant. If it's not, I would like to know the reasons as well. He ignored my vote too. (it's an rv but still)
and unicorns aren't real :< [spoiler]I wish they are[/color]
@Zexion.
Limited time to put a RV? How is that even possible? Maybe she just missed the game starting and left.Sakura wrote:
Yeah, I just checked and her last post was somewhere around 2 hours ago.
It doesnt show that she's currently online tho.
Possible Reasons:
- She had limited time so decided to just post something in a forum game rather than an RV here.
- She's scum avoiding the thread <- Very unlikely imo, what motivation would there be for a scum to avoid the thread at this point, besides any newb scum would've beetlejuiced by now.
- ? Can't think of others.
That's also possible, if you look at her post history, she was actively posting at 10 hours ago, which is also when she confirmed, then just made a short post saying aru~ in a random forum game, and she's no longer online. So it's quite likely she didn't want to bother or didn't even check the mafia forum. Forgot about that.
So yeah i still dont know why Navi decided to call attention to that.
Are we actually allowed to check that? I mean... its kinda out of the game. (But I guess its legal lol)Sakura wrote:
That's also possible, if you look at her post history, she was actively posting at 10 hours ago, which is also when she confirmed, then just made a short post saying aru~ in a random forum game, and she's no longer online. So it's quite likely she didn't want to bother or didn't even check the mafia forum. Forgot about that.
And yeah I think are running out of material.
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You can check that yes, it's only a problem if you discuss ongoing mafia games, but you can check an user's post activity fine.
1) I don't think she's purposefully dodging the thread. Maybe her forum games post was just a quick post and there are some real life circumstances which made her unable to contribute to the game. Who knows. I called on her on the off chance that she was still online.Sakura wrote:
Bah, whatever, the tone and stances on Zexion's words, seems he firmly believes this is the best way to go for him, so i'll just look somewhere else.
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Vote: Navizel
1) Why did you think it was relevant to say that Jess was posting in forum games, but not here? Do you think she's purposefully dodging the thread when the day only started a few hours ago?
2) If you agree with my stance re-zexion what do you think of his later posting and his explanation of his uncommital scumteam post? We've been discussing for a while, if you agree with me, you certainly have something to comment in everything that's been said, yet you didn't say anything.
2)
this one? I still feel like the maybe part is a way to escape a situation where things don't go his way. Though I would consider his reasoning since yeah, it's too early at the game.Zexion wrote:
Sakura wrote:
I usually dont put much into account into the early posts, other than "why X instead of Y", but while Drezi's post was amuzing and suspicious, my current pet peeve is why Zexion decided to not question it, heck he even calls me and Drezi a scumteam... then follows it with a "maybe", uncommital, easy to flee if things dont go his way, and not actually trying to read people.
Because I wouldn't know how to make that assumption this early in the game? You surely don't believe I can make that claim seriously only because two people are voting for me?
^one of the reasons I called on her. I didn't see her browsing this forum though.Navizel wrote:
Where are the others
Place holder!!! Will start reading this and commenting tonight.
Yay people.
Topic Starter
Vote Count 1.03
[1] Ace Timing -- Static Noise Bird
[1] Drezi -- Navizel
[1] Navizel -- Sakura
[1] Zexion -- Drezi
[0] -[Jess]- --
[0] Hika --
[0] Sakura --
[0] sLaiNi --
[0] Static Noise Bird --
[0] No Lynch -
Not Voting -- -[Jess]-, Ace Timing, Hika, sLaiNi
With 9 alive, it's 5 to lynch.
Deadline is July 3 at 3:30PM CST (GMT-6).
[1] Ace Timing -- Static Noise Bird
[1] Drezi -- Navizel
[1] Navizel -- Sakura
[1] Zexion -- Drezi
[0] -[Jess]- --
[0] Hika --
[0] Sakura --
[0] sLaiNi --
[0] Static Noise Bird --
[0] No Lynch -
Not Voting -- -[Jess]-, Ace Timing, Hika, sLaiNi
With 9 alive, it's 5 to lynch.
Deadline is July 3 at 3:30PM CST (GMT-6).
Ugh not really liking the spreadness of the votes, but i no longer think Zexion's as scum as i thought he was and i rather be on Navizel. I already gave my opinion on Drezi and Ace hasn't even posted. Hmm...CalignoBot wrote:
Vote Count 1.03
[1] Ace Timing -- Static Noise Bird
[1] Drezi -- Navizel
[1] Navizel -- Sakura
[1] Sakura -- Zexion
[1] Zexion -- Drezi
[0] -[Jess]- --
[0] Hika --
[0] sLaiNi --
[0] Static Noise Bird --
[0] No Lynch -
Not Voting -- -[Jess]-, Ace Timing, Hika, sLaiNi
With 9 alive, it's 5 to lynch.
Deadline is July 3 at 3:30PM CST (GMT-6).
@Mod: I unvoted Sakura
@Sakura: What do you think about Navizel not reacting at all about the stuff I said?
Yay I hope people post soon!
@Sakura: What do you think about Navizel not reacting at all about the stuff I said?
Yay I hope people post soon!
Actually now that you mentioned it he only replied to stuff I said...Zexion wrote:
@Sakura: What do you think about Navizel not reacting at all about the stuff I said?
Maybe help me add pressure here so he'll be more motivated to reply!
heh.
Sorry, drowned in the world of Battleblock Theater for a while there.
I'll read more thoroughly after my shop trip and post if there's anything good I can post about (although from the first glance it seemed like completely stupid shit related to the first joke posts and random votes).
I'll read more thoroughly after my shop trip and post if there's anything good I can post about (although from the first glance it seemed like completely stupid shit related to the first joke posts and random votes).
I was went to school after I post in forum gamesNavizel wrote:
Calling for Jess just means I want her to post and contribute something to the game. I didn't call on everyone else because I checked their history and they weren't online when the game started. However, Jess was.
I'll save you time and tell you that it is indeed stupid shit related to the first joke posts and random votes, but i got a scumread on Navi out of it.Static Noise Bird wrote:
Sorry, drowned in the world of Battleblock Theater for a while there.
I'll read more thoroughly after my shop trip and post if there's anything good I can post about (although from the first glance it seemed like completely stupid shit related to the first joke posts and random votes).
And the time when I time post in FG is 7:40 am
I went to school about 8:00 am
Note:The Timezone where I live is GMT+7
I went to school about 8:00 am
Note:The Timezone where I live is GMT+7
I don't understand your thought process here. At first I thought it was meant to get reactions, but it appears you kinda mean the conclusions you reached here?Sakura wrote:
Yeah i was thinking about that earlier, but thing is the way he put me as town before I even posted felt like some sort of early buddying so when he would flip scum people would trace back their posts and look at that then try to tie me up with him. Although i dont remember much of Drezi scum, and even if he was scum, I highly doubt he would go through such a coordinate pre-game plan of suiciding to take me down with him.
So in other words, i hardly feel that scum would've come up with such a risky tactic, and it's more than likely just town trying to get reactions out of RVS. And even in the low chance that he was scum, i doubt he'd be scum together with Zexion, so there's another point in favor towards voting Zexion.
In that case I'd like to know how my actions would have been risky as scum, and how exactly scum!me putting you as town would result in me taking you down with me should I flip scum? Why would anyone think that scum!me would be trying to give towncred first post to a scumbuddy? I mean obviously noone's gonna think you're town just cause I put you as one, so it's not like I could be trying to get townrep for scum!you, which in turn could fall apart and backfire once I flip scum.
Also I don't get the last part "Even if he [Drezi] were scum he wouldn't be scum with Zexion"? Why wouldn't I be, and no matter how I read this that should be a point towards NOT voting Zexion no?
I have a nice townread on Zexion now btw.
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Vote: Navizel
Oh yeah, i was arguing with Zexion back then so it slipped my mind, you see, this is a 2 scum game, and you sacrificing yourself just to get 1 mislynch wouldnt add up putting up your partner against a whole playerlist. Besides i'd like to think that you and me are probs the most experienced here, so the most experienced scum with whoever you'd be, would be quite a loss and would probably spend doom.
Secondary reason i thought Zexion was scum at the time and i didnt think you were busing him (which would defeat the purpose of a sacrificial scum to get a mislynch).
tl;dr: I'd understand if scum-you would be a hindrance for the team, to try and do that, but i think that any possible partner in this playerlist you'd have, you'd probably be the mastermind, so it'd be a too risky situation for the scum team for you to sacrifice yourself for a single mislynch, ergo, that post wasn't trying to buddy me or tie me up with you.
Also, you misread it, i didnt say you'd give me towncred, i said the entirely opposite, you saying i was town before i even posted, if you flipped scum would cause me to get mislynched, but as i said before, that'd be too risky of a move and it'd involve you sacrificing yourself.
Secondary reason i thought Zexion was scum at the time and i didnt think you were busing him (which would defeat the purpose of a sacrificial scum to get a mislynch).
tl;dr: I'd understand if scum-you would be a hindrance for the team, to try and do that, but i think that any possible partner in this playerlist you'd have, you'd probably be the mastermind, so it'd be a too risky situation for the scum team for you to sacrifice yourself for a single mislynch, ergo, that post wasn't trying to buddy me or tie me up with you.
Also, you misread it, i didnt say you'd give me towncred, i said the entirely opposite, you saying i was town before i even posted, if you flipped scum would cause me to get mislynched, but as i said before, that'd be too risky of a move and it'd involve you sacrificing yourself.
kinda sad that when someone else finally shows up i have to go to sleep in like 5 minutes u.u
Oh well.
Oh well.
Also @Drezi if i missed something you wanted answered pls quote or repeat it since im kinda half asleep and im not 100% sure i read everything @_@
Yeah but this is the part I don't get, I didn't misread it, I simply understand the hypothetical case you mention this way: "Oh look Drezi turned out to be scum, and he put Sakura as town, let's lynch Sakura" -> "Why? Because scum put her as town! Why does it mean she's scum then? Because scum wanted us to think she's town! Wait she isn't? No scum wanted us to think the other scum is town!"Sakura wrote:
Also, you misread it, i didnt say you'd give me towncred, i said the entirely opposite, you saying i was town before i even posted, if you flipped scum would cause me to get mislynched, but as i said before, that'd be too risky of a move and it'd involve you sacrificing yourself.
And this just doesn't seem feasible as I said in my last post, or why else do you think town would decide to lynch you if I flipped scum after putting you as town?
I tried to read again and again all the post in here
Will vote later,let me process my mind
Will vote later,let me process my mind
Welp
vote: sLaiNi
You are online
vote: sLaiNi
You are online
I'm here now. So as inexperienced as I am, I rather stay a little bit in the background and give my thoughts on your ideas rather than creating them myself.
Not answering despite having posted is barely a proof for anyone to be scum. IMO
Thanks Sakura for explaining some of the words people use in this game. Helped me out quiet a bit.
Not answering despite having posted is barely a proof for anyone to be scum. IMO
Thanks Sakura for explaining some of the words people use in this game. Helped me out quiet a bit.
You could still vote someone. Even though I'm trying to steer away from it we're still in Random Voting Stage, you can just vote someone because you don't like their name or something silly to get things going. You can just change your vote later anyway.
)
Yes, and I was writing the post above, which took a while due to me being on mobile phone.Its 11:30 here, so work/school time.-[Jess]- wrote:
Welp
vote: sLaiNi
You are online
Thanks for explaining what RVS stays forDrezi wrote:
You could still vote someone. Even though I'm trying to steer away from it we're still in Random Voting Stage, you can just vote someone because you don't like their name or something silly to get things going. You can just change your vote later anyway.
Vote: -[Jess]-
Not because I'm mad or anything, But... You know
:^)
Unvote
I'm going to post more if there's anything new not related to the first pages tomorrow/tonight lolol. I can't be arsed to "analyze" anything based on RVS-related (non-)content.
Scum tactics/bussing gone wrong. I don't think a single read list, especially an RVS jokelist, would be enough to prove anything, though.Drezi wrote:
And this just doesn't seem feasible as I said in my last post, or why else do you think town would decide to lynch you if I flipped scum after putting you as town?
I'm going to post more if there's anything new not related to the first pages tomorrow/tonight lolol. I can't be arsed to "analyze" anything based on RVS-related (non-)content.
u wotStatic Noise Bird wrote:
I'm going to post more if there's anything new not related to the first pages tomorrow/tonight lolol. I can't be arsed to "analyze" anything based on RVS-related (non-)content.
no, I'm not calling you scum for this, but don't try to make the point that sakura/zexion/navi posting on the past few pages is not worth looking at.
m8
I read through it twice but it's not worth posting anything serious. I need to read Navi's stuff again I guess. Let me consider.
I read through it twice but it's not worth posting anything serious. I need to read Navi's stuff again I guess. Let me consider.
Topic Starter
Vote Count 1.04
[2] Navizel -- Sakura, Drezi
[1] -[Jess]- -- sLaiNi
[1] Drezi -- Navizel
[1] sLaiNi -- -[Jess]-
[0] Ace Timing --
[0] Hika --
[0] Sakura --
[0] Static Noise Bird --
[0] Zexion --
[0] No Lynch -
Not Voting -- Ace Timing, Hika, Static Noise Bird, Zexion
With 9 alive, it's 5 to lynch.
Deadline is July 3 at 3:30PM CST (GMT-6).
[2] Navizel -- Sakura, Drezi
[1] -[Jess]- -- sLaiNi
[1] Drezi -- Navizel
[1] sLaiNi -- -[Jess]-
[0] Ace Timing --
[0] Hika --
[0] Sakura --
[0] Static Noise Bird --
[0] Zexion --
[0] No Lynch -
Not Voting -- Ace Timing, Hika, Static Noise Bird, Zexion
With 9 alive, it's 5 to lynch.
Deadline is July 3 at 3:30PM CST (GMT-6).
Re-read everything and made some thoughts about everybodies posts.
The way Zexion tried to explain his actions didn't seem like he is a scum. What I am more curious about is, that Navizel only posted:
UNVOTE: -[Jess]-
NEW VOTE: Navizel
The way Zexion tried to explain his actions didn't seem like he is a scum. What I am more curious about is, that Navizel only posted:
when Sakura suspected him of being a scum and made her thoughts about him. Just posting "heh" there doesn't make much sense IMO.Navizel wrote:
heh.
UNVOTE: -[Jess]-
NEW VOTE: Navizel
Sure if we say Navi's fencesitting, semi-silent agreeing to Sakura's posts and the paranoiac post pointing out the Drezi/Sakura scumteam (which was in fact a really bad post since it could feed confusion and the possibility to a mislynch) are scummy, sure, he's questionable and worth keeping an eye on. Can't see a pure scum move of any kind there. I'm still eager to see more material, though. Sorry for underestimating the RVS content, guess I'm learning new things game by game.
@Mod: Missed my unvote (sorry, placed it in a sneaky place).
@Mod: Missed my unvote (sorry, placed it in a sneaky place).
ayy lmaosLaiNi wrote:
Re-read everything and made some thoughts about everybodies posts.
The way Zexion tried to explain his actions didn't seem like he is a scum. What I am more curious about is, that Navizel only posted:when Sakura suspected him of being a scum and made her thoughts about him. Just posting "heh" there doesn't make much sense IMO.Navizel wrote:
heh.
UNVOTE: -[Jess]-
NEW VOTE: Navizel
My reply is more of a reply to this one though. Trying to add pressure to me isn't going to do anything because I know my role well. Also, your post seemed a quick reasoning so you could join the Navi wagon.Sakura wrote:
Maybe help me add pressure here so he'll be more motivated to reply!
Vote: Slaini
P.S I won't be here during afternoon cause of my grad. I'll probably be back by night.
You are right, that I acted a bit fast there but it's more of a newbie action than a direct hop on the wagon. Still, I could understand that you might suspect me now when you are town.
Excuse me.sLaiNi wrote:
... now when you are town.
Either you're scum (you know for sure he's town), or you're both scum (desperate bussing).
And you're still keeping your vote?
Static Noise Bird wrote:
Excuse me.sLaiNi wrote:
... now when you are town.
Either you're scum (you know for sure he's town), or you're both scum (desperate bussing).
And you're still keeping your vote?
I can't see why you are so sure about me being scum. Just because I used subjunctive to express the possibility of him being town despite me suspecting him being a scum.
Even though, if you are so extremely sure I'd be a scum, why didn't you vote for me in an instant? Seems like you searched for a reason to open up a wagon on me.
Huh. How did you know I am town. I would understand if it says "if you are town" but you said when. And then there's your vote one me which you say that I am scum. It's very contradictory.sLaiNi wrote:
You are right, that I acted a bit fast there but it's more of a newbie action than a direct hop on the wagon. Still, I could understand that you might suspect me now when you are town.
Jumping on a wagon might seem beneficial for town because the one who started it is experienced but imo it's more beneficial to scum especially when your reasoning is just a "newbie action." I believe just hopping on a wagon is a newbie scum action, especially with a reasoning like that. Your reasoning for voting me is very weak and might only make town lose.
now when* or w/e. you get the point
Because I want to scumhunt. I can't vote someone based on a single post with hopefully just bad wording choices. I tried to get a different reaction but I'm fine with this, too.
sLaiNi wrote:
Re-read everything and made some thoughts about everybodies posts.
The way Zexion tried to explain his actions didn't seem like he is a scum. What I am more curious about is, that Navizel only posted:when Sakura suspected him of being a scum and made her thoughts about him. Just posting "heh" there doesn't make much sense IMO.Navizel wrote:
heh.
UNVOTE: -[Jess]-
NEW VOTE: Navizel
this is self-contradictory.sLaiNi wrote:
...now when you are town.
Use of words can mean the difference between scum and town jsyk.sLaiNi wrote:
I can't see why you are so sure about me being scum. Just because I used subjunctive to express the possibility of him being town despite me suspecting him being a scum.
Navizel wrote:
It's very contradictory.
Parrot alarm. OMGUS.-[Jess]- wrote:
this is self-contradictory.sLaiNi wrote:
...now when you are town.
whoops,too fast to read
my bad
my bad
Okay, so I am reading from the beginning and I will just quote as I go (like usual).
hahahaha ok.Sakura wrote:
My vote is now serious.
Either earlier on in the game you were VI, you just didn't realize what you were doing, or you really are scummy.Zexion wrote:
I would prefer to have imput from all players before making serious voting, don't you think so?
SCUMSLIPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPpSCUMSLIP SCUMSLIP SO HARD RNsLaiNi wrote:
You are right, that I acted a bit fast there but it's more of a newbie action than a direct hop on the wagon. Still, I could understand that you might suspect me now when you are town.
Vote: sLaiNi
@Mod: votecount plssssssssss
Good morning everyone. Before anything, please let's not turn this into a memegame. Kthxbai.
Also we're not on RVS anymore. Abstain from voting randomly.
So, was the intention of this post just a test to get a reaction out of me and Sakura? I find it highly suspicious you would just post this and then dissapear.
What bothers me is your passive attitude towards things said to you. You just let Sakura defend you agaist what I said about you, not reacting at all. I feel like you're either ignoring me or using this play to go unnoticed then quickly change the subject.
I have the intent to vote you but I'll wait until the votecount. I woulld like to avoid L-1 at this point because lolhammers and newbies (Including myself).
Besides this I don't see anything relevant or helpful on your post. Would you mind developing your ideas about the scumslip or are you just messing around?
On that Wiki you can also find a lot about Mafia theory and ways to play. I learned a lot by reading it and playing but still have much to go.
Why did you decide to try mafia? What got your attention about this game?
Also about the "scumslip"... that doesn't seem like definitve proof. As a non-native english speaker, that sentence would have made perfect sense in my language. I don't know anything about german but it may have had sense on that language too... I'll give it the benefit of doubt and just say it was bad-worded, but it still bothers me.
Also we're not on RVS anymore. Abstain from voting randomly.
Best response 2015. You missed the "nothing personnel kid" anyways.Navizel wrote:
heh.
So, was the intention of this post just a test to get a reaction out of me and Sakura? I find it highly suspicious you would just post this and then dissapear.
What bothers me is your passive attitude towards things said to you. You just let Sakura defend you agaist what I said about you, not reacting at all. I feel like you're either ignoring me or using this play to go unnoticed then quickly change the subject.
I have the intent to vote you but I'll wait until the votecount. I woulld like to avoid L-1 at this point because lolhammers and newbies (Including myself).
I suggest you read the first pages again because I already explained this and the Drezi/Sakura posts. Let's not bring that up again because we already reached a conclusion.Hika wrote:
Either earlier on in the game you were VI, you just didn't realize what you were doing, or you really are scummy.Zexion wrote:
I would prefer to have imput from all players before making serious voting, don't you think so?
Besides this I don't see anything relevant or helpful on your post. Would you mind developing your ideas about the scumslip or are you just messing around?
Welcome Slaini. I suggest you take a look at http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?tit ... reviationssLaiNi wrote:
I'm here now. So as inexperienced as I am, I rather stay a little bit in the background and give my thoughts on your ideas rather than creating them myself.
Not answering despite having posted is barely a proof for anyone to be scum. IMO
Thanks Sakura for explaining some of the words people use in this game. Helped me out quiet a bit.
On that Wiki you can also find a lot about Mafia theory and ways to play. I learned a lot by reading it and playing but still have much to go.
Why did you decide to try mafia? What got your attention about this game?
Also about the "scumslip"... that doesn't seem like definitve proof. As a non-native english speaker, that sentence would have made perfect sense in my language. I don't know anything about german but it may have had sense on that language too... I'll give it the benefit of doubt and just say it was bad-worded, but it still bothers me.
SNB already said this but let me "contribute" a bit: why is this self-contradictory? Do you have any futher thoughts about Slaini being scum because of this contradiction?-[Jess]- wrote:
this is self-contradictory.
Note:I won't be here tomorrow morning and afternoon,will be active at night
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In German, "If you are a scum" means "Wenn du ein Scum(Abschaum) bist". Translating "Wenn" to "When" is a common mistake (even though it's a bit embarrassing for me to make such a mistake). This might sound like a bad excusion therefor, but that's how it happened.
But as this isn't really convincingly, I will just let that stay like it is.
I still think it's strange how Navizel stood in the background, despite others suspecting him, but as soon as I suspect him, he starts to accuse me of being scum.
But as this isn't really convincingly, I will just let that stay like it is.
I still think it's strange how Navizel stood in the background, despite others suspecting him, but as soon as I suspect him, he starts to accuse me of being scum.
You mean how I was asleep and then as soon as I woke up, yours was the latest post?sLaiNi wrote:
I still think it's strange how Navizel stood in the background, despite others suspecting him, but as soon as I suspect him, he starts to accuse me of being scum.
Ahh, you posted while I was writing the post above @Zexion.
First, thanks for the nice welcoming. I already took a quick look at the wiki, but I am definitly reading a lot more there after you suggestion.
Yesterday, when I was browsing through the Osu-Forums, I found the Mafia section. After reading some in it, I noticed that it reminded me of a game my "religious education" - teacher used to play with us for one or two times, named "Die Werwölfe von Düsterwald" which is also about some people being werewolf and knowing each other and being able to kill the villagers in the night while these vote for a execution on days end.
That's what made me really interested in trying this out. And even though I seem to be terrible and I barely know how to contribute to the discussion, it's a lot of fun for me.
First, thanks for the nice welcoming. I already took a quick look at the wiki, but I am definitly reading a lot more there after you suggestion.
Yesterday, when I was browsing through the Osu-Forums, I found the Mafia section. After reading some in it, I noticed that it reminded me of a game my "religious education" - teacher used to play with us for one or two times, named "Die Werwölfe von Düsterwald" which is also about some people being werewolf and knowing each other and being able to kill the villagers in the night while these vote for a execution on days end.
That's what made me really interested in trying this out. And even though I seem to be terrible and I barely know how to contribute to the discussion, it's a lot of fun for me.
Zexion, this is going completely over your head.
I can read, I have two eyes, and what it seemed like, to me at least" was a bunch of pointless bickering. It's not like I can disregard it though. You guys ended it on your own terms. Me, however? I have just started to read the thread and will not take things like that lightly, especially if I see walls and walls of text in the beginning of D1.
It is helpful for me so I can keep note of what I am doing and so everyone will know my opinion. You mentioned this earlier on in the game, correct? You mentioned that it would be nice to get the opinion of everyone before being too hasty.
And specify scumslip. You scumslipping or sLaiNi?
@sLaiNi: Do you even care if I vote for you? How do you feel of my vote? Saying that what you're saying isn't convincing is a little odd because the whole point is to shift suspicion to someone else.
What if some of us haven't picked up on anything. Not saying that I haven't, but as it is a "newbie game", I will abstain from pressuring as long as everyone can evaluate properly what they are saying. So let people vote as they would like. People are not scumslipping, people are just being very clueless when they post without sense. I still consider RVS but that Navizel post was a little odd and I am examining it as we speak.Zexion wrote:
Also we're not on RVS anymore. Abstain from voting randomly.
Nice, I already got a reaction out of you. It's a reaction test, to see what you will say, and you reacted to it just as I thought.Zexion wrote:
I suggest you read the first pages again because I already explained this and the Drezi/Sakura posts. Let's not bring that up again because we already reached a conclusion.
Besides this I don't see anything relevant or helpful on your post. Would you mind developing your ideas about the scumslip or are you just messing around?
I can read, I have two eyes, and what it seemed like, to me at least" was a bunch of pointless bickering. It's not like I can disregard it though. You guys ended it on your own terms. Me, however? I have just started to read the thread and will not take things like that lightly, especially if I see walls and walls of text in the beginning of D1.
It is helpful for me so I can keep note of what I am doing and so everyone will know my opinion. You mentioned this earlier on in the game, correct? You mentioned that it would be nice to get the opinion of everyone before being too hasty.
And specify scumslip. You scumslipping or sLaiNi?
I agree with you here, it also bothers me no matter what it's like.Zexion wrote:
Also about the "scumslip"... that doesn't seem like definitve proof. As a non-native english speaker, that sentence would have made perfect sense in my language. I don't know anything about german but it may have had sense on that language too... I'll give it the benefit of doubt and just say it was bad-worded, but it still bothers me.
As a speaker of German, I should know this as well.sLaiNi wrote:
In German, "If you are a scum" means "Wenn du ein Scum(Abschaum) bist". Translating "Wenn" to "When" is a common mistake (even though it's a bit embarrassing for me to make such a mistake). This might sound like a bad excusion therefor, but that's how it happened.
@sLaiNi: Do you even care if I vote for you? How do you feel of my vote? Saying that what you're saying isn't convincing is a little odd because the whole point is to shift suspicion to someone else.
Well.. werewolf is very similar to mafia. I think the only difference is the name of the roles.sLaiNi wrote:
Ahh, you posted while I was writing the post above @Zexion.
First, thanks for the nice welcoming. I already took a quick look at the wiki, but I am definitly reading a lot more there after you suggestion.
Yesterday, when I was browsing through the Osu-Forums, I found the Mafia section. After reading some in it, I noticed that it reminded me of a game my "religious education" - teacher used to play with us for one or two times, named "Die Werwölfe von Düsterwald" which is also about some people being werewolf and knowing each other and being able to kill the villagers in the night while these vote for a execution on days end.
That's what made me really interested in trying this out. And even though I seem to be terrible and I barely know how to contribute to the discussion, it's a lot of fun for me.
@Hika
Of course I care if someone votes for me (which is part of the game i guess), but as strange as it sounds, I feel kind of safe as I know for myself, that I am town (which you can't know and which could also be lied).
That I called my own excusion less convincingly might be, because I felt cornered and believed, that you would not believe me anyway.
Of course I care if someone votes for me (which is part of the game i guess), but as strange as it sounds, I feel kind of safe as I know for myself, that I am town (which you can't know and which could also be lied).
That I called my own excusion less convincingly might be, because I felt cornered and believed, that you would not believe me anyway.