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TwoThirds & Feint - Epiphany (feat. Veela)

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Aiceo
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Thursday, July 02, 2015 at 3:32:05 AM

Artist: TwoThirds & Feint
Title: Epiphany (feat. Veela)
Tags: A Mystery Hula marathon drum and bass dnb vocal full version collab best map VINXIS
BPM: 175
Filesize: 11814kb
Play Time: 06:57
Difficulties Available:
  1. Revelation (5.47 stars, 1924 notes)
Download: TwoThirds & Feint - Epiphany (feat. Veela)
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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Colllab with A Mystery

Hitsounds by Hula
Storyboards by VINXIS

He's remembered everything and now I'm dead...




Sections:
00:22:152 - Aiceo
00:44:095 - A Mystery
04:01:581 - Aiceo
ErunamoJAZZ
diff names
  1. drunk on a Saturday
  2. omen
  3. omission
  4. ecstasy
  5. etc...
Mint
metadata: p/3827499
star for you :D
Topic Starter
Aiceo

appleeaterx wrote:

metadata: p/3827499
star for you :D
o, okay ill fix that thanks!
Aleycks
IRC Mod
23:41 Aiceo: now give epiphany a mod :P
23:43 Aleycks: sure, why not :P
23:43 Aleycks: I'm not sure I'd have a lot of things to say though
23:46 Aiceo: feel free to leave some suggestions then
23:47 Aleycks: well
23:47 Aleycks: honestly the mapping itself is fine
23:47 Aleycks: it plays well
23:48 Aleycks: but as you said it's kinda repetitive
23:48 Aleycks: It's a shame that the map is based on one pattern
23:49 Aleycks: I think you could have played with 1/4 sliders
23:49 Aleycks: to make the whole thing less repetitive
23:49 Aiceo: yeah i realised that too late
23:50 Aiceo: ill try doing something now
23:50 Aiceo: got an idea
23:52 Aleycks: nice
23:52 Aleycks: Like, you could keep the same "pattern"
23:52 Aleycks: but use 1/4 sliders instead of triples / streams in some place
23:53 Aleycks: so the whole thing has more variations
23:55 Aleycks: also I would haver prefered CS4 but that's personnal opinion I guess xd
23:55 Aleycks: CS4 is love, CS4 is live
23:55 Aiceo: i dont like cs4 lol
23:58 Aleycks: So yeah not much more to say I guess
23:58 Aleycks: I just played through it once again
23:58 Aleycks: it plays fine
00:01 Aiceo: i tried doing some variety with the vocal sliders
00:01 Aleycks: send :O
00:02 Aleycks: I made a map a while ago
00:02 Aleycks: that had the same problem as this one lol
00:02 Aleycks: The song was very repetitive like this one
00:02 Aleycks: a liquid dnb song aswell
00:03 Aiceo: 05:07:410 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5) -
00:03 Aleycks: and I just did the same pattern all over again and again
00:03 Aiceo: stuff like this
00:03 Aiceo: adds some variety
00:03 Aiceo: and this
00:03 Aiceo: 06:02:267 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3) -
00:04 Aleycks: I think that's a good idea
00:06 Aleycks: 00:28:152 (4,5) -
00:06 Aleycks: something like that
00:06 Aleycks: would feel good too
00:06 Aleycks: I think
00:07 Aleycks: instead of triples at some places
00:10 Aleycks: your tower of heaven map
00:10 Aleycks: dayum
00:12 Aiceo: ye lol
00:12 Aleycks: may I try and map an insane ?
00:12 Aleycks: don't take it if you don't like it
00:13 Aiceo: I already have the gds coming
00:13 *Aiceo is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/687303 TwoThirds & Feint - Epiphany (feat. Veela) [Collab]]
00:13 Aiceo: there i updated it
00:13 Aiceo: with some sassy stuff now
00:13 Aleycks: already
00:13 Aleycks: lemme play through it
00:14 *Aleycks is playing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/687303 TwoThirds & Feint - Epiphany (feat. Veela) [Collab]]
00:14 Aiceo: sec watching a friend D:
00:14 Aiceo: give me a minute lol
00:14 Aleycks: sure
00:14 Aleycks: telle me when
00:14 Aleycks: I'm bored anyway
00:14 Aleycks: lazy to do anything
00:14 Aleycks: tell*
00:15 Aleycks: also how to get gds ;-;
00:16 Aiceo: spam people lol
00:17 Aiceo: just try as many people as you can
00:17 Aiceo: someone will like the song
00:17 Aiceo: and will accept
00:18 Aleycks: lol I see
00:29 Aiceo: sec im changing stuff around
00:46 Aleycks: (:
00:47 Aiceo: still changing lol
00:47 Aleycks: alright xD
00:48 Aleycks: Thought you went afk
00:48 Aleycks: Just tell me when it's ready
00:49 Aiceo: uploading
00:50 *Aiceo is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/687303 TwoThirds & Feint - Epiphany (feat. Veela) [Collab]]
00:50 Aiceo: sec lemme delete hula's diff
00:51 Aleycks: is this diff gonna be called collab btw ?
00:51 Aiceo: alright go
00:51 Aiceo: nah
00:51 Aiceo: i can't figure a name
00:51 Aiceo: but it's a 3 man collab
00:52 Aleycks: :D
00:52 Aleycks: hmm
00:52 Aleycks: alright
00:52 Aiceo: 40% me 40% A Mystery 20% Hula (hitsounding)
00:52 Aleycks: ok
00:52 Aleycks: I'm so cold right now
00:52 Aleycks: sorry if I make dumb mistakes
00:52 Aiceo: lol
00:52 Aiceo: no problem
00:53 *Aleycks is playing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/687303 TwoThirds & Feint - Epiphany (feat. Veela) [Collab]]
01:00 Aleycks: I loved the sliders towards the end !
01:00 Aleycks: the 1/4s
01:00 Aleycks: more like those
01:00 Aiceo: yah i added those
01:00 Aleycks: please
01:01 Aleycks: these need to be all over the map
01:01 Aleycks: imo
01:01 Aleycks: not only towards the end
01:01 Aleycks: But they do feel good !
01:01 Aiceo: they are all over the map :(
01:01 Aleycks: and add variation
01:01 Aleycks: hmm
01:01 Aleycks: I only noticed the changes towards the end
01:01 Aleycks: ;o
01:02 Aiceo: i guess i can fit a few more
01:03 Aleycks: I mean you only added 1/4s sliders during the last kiai right ?
01:03 Aiceo: first kiai
01:03 Aiceo: is not mine
01:03 Aiceo: A Mystery
01:03 Aleycks: oooh
01:03 Aleycks: I see
01:07 Aleycks: 05:24:381 (4,5,6,7,1) -
01:07 Aleycks: feels wrong for some reason
01:07 Aleycks: I misread it when you spec'd me
01:07 Aleycks: and I just played your kiai in the editor one more time
01:07 Aleycks: and also had trouble reading this
01:08 Aiceo: yeah
01:08 Aiceo: I thought it would work but
01:08 Aiceo: eh
01:10 Aiceo: Alright changed it a bit
01:10 Aiceo: Should be fine for now
01:10 Aiceo: Gonna upload and let A Mystery clean up his part
01:10 Aleycks: yeah
01:11 Aiceo: post the log if you want the kds
01:11 Aiceo: you did actually help alot
01:11 Aiceo: more than you think lol
01:11 Aleycks: really ? xD
01:11 Aleycks: I'm glad I did then :)

Glad I could help with this poor mod, and good luck ! :D
Yamicchi
Here's something :D
[General]
00:24:210 (3) - place this at x:64 y:144
00:24:381 (4) - place this at x:152 y:208, these two will be better there :D
00:26:267 (1) - flip it up
02:17:010 (4,5,6,7,8) - this should flip up i think
02:46:495 (2,3) - Ctrl + J is better
04:27:638 (1) - maybe place it to the left of [*]04:27:295
05:02:095 - this should have 1 circle or place the slider farther then
05:21:295 (2) - wrong DS here
06:13:581 (2,3,4) - place the slider down toward the (5)
06:37:238 (3) - place this at x:416 y:152 ( on to the left of (4) )
06:56:610 (6) - place this under (7,8) at x:408 y:344
That's all I can do ( I think ) and please award me a Kudosu if this useful :D
Anyway, good luck with approved this map :3
Topic Starter
Aiceo

[ Shana Yami ] wrote:

Here's something :D
[General]
00:24:210 (3) - place this at x:64 y:144 no change
00:24:381 (4) - place this at x:152 y:208, these two will be better there :D no change
00:26:267 (1) - flip it up no change
04:27:638 (1) - maybe place it to the left of [*]04:27:295 no change
05:02:095 - this should have 1 circle or place the slider farther then placed the slider further away
05:21:295 (2) - wrong DS here no change
06:13:581 (2,3,4) - place the slider down toward the (5) no change
06:37:238 (3) - place this at x:416 y:152 ( on to the left of (4) ) no change
06:56:610 (6) - place this under (7,8) at x:408 y:344 yeah that's better
That's all I can do ( I think ) and please award me a Kudosu if this useful :D
Anyway, good luck with approved this map :3
Kuki
IRC + Testplay 8-)

SPOILER
2015-06-19 00:07 Kuki: Still need mods?
2015-06-19 00:08 Aiceo: Yeah, but I don't do m4m sorry :(
2015-06-19 00:08 Kuki: no problem
2015-06-19 00:08 Kuki: free for an irc?
2015-06-19 00:09 Kuki: Which map?
2015-06-19 00:09 Aiceo: ACTION is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/687303 TwoThirds & Feint - Epiphany (feat. Veela) [Revelation]]
2015-06-19 00:09 Aiceo: Yeah im free
2015-06-19 00:09 Kuki: Kewl
2015-06-19 00:10 Kuki: Want a testplay?
2015-06-19 00:11 Aiceo: yeah sure
2015-06-19 00:11 Aiceo: just changed some stuff around
2015-06-19 00:11 Aiceo: wanna see how it plays
2015-06-19 00:11 Kuki: cool ^_^
2015-06-19 00:18 Kuki: wow
2015-06-19 00:18 Kuki: both of my hands are numb
2015-06-19 00:18 Kuki: lol
2015-06-19 00:18 Aiceo: yah haha
2015-06-19 00:18 Kuki: there were a few misreads
2015-06-19 00:18 Kuki: but those were cause my eyes can't keep up with osu anymore
2015-06-19 00:19 Kuki: and a few weird shakes that looked like misreads because I move veins in my index finger when holding the pen lmao
2015-06-19 00:19 Aiceo: lol
2015-06-19 00:19 Aiceo: let me know if you have any suggestions
2015-06-19 00:19 Aiceo: dont mind the random hitsounds
2015-06-19 00:19 Aiceo: its not hitsounded
2015-06-19 00:19 Kuki: ACTION is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/687303 TwoThirds & Feint - Epiphany (feat. Veela) [Revelation]]
2015-06-19 00:19 Aiceo: yet
2015-06-19 00:19 Kuki: mk
2015-06-19 00:20 Kuki: uhh well first
2015-06-19 00:20 Kuki: ouch
2015-06-19 00:20 Kuki: like
2015-06-19 00:20 Kuki: streams
2015-06-19 00:20 Kuki: that's like freakin hollow wings streams
2015-06-19 00:20 Kuki: lmao
2015-06-19 00:20 Aiceo: just simple quintuplets nothing special
2015-06-19 00:20 Kuki: nono I mean like
2015-06-19 00:21 Kuki: Genryuu kaiko streams
2015-06-19 00:21 Kuki: hahah
2015-06-19 00:21 Kuki: not spacing but just the amount of streams
2015-06-19 00:21 Kuki: was really intense
2015-06-19 00:21 Kuki: and there were not many breaks
2015-06-19 00:21 Kuki: at all
2015-06-19 00:21 Aiceo: gotta map them all :P
2015-06-19 00:21 Kuki: I mean
2015-06-19 00:21 Kuki: one break
2015-06-19 00:21 Aiceo: one break
2015-06-19 00:21 Aiceo: yeah
2015-06-19 00:21 Aiceo: i got some suggestions
2015-06-19 00:21 Aiceo: to actually map that break
2015-06-19 00:21 Aiceo: lol
2015-06-19 00:21 Kuki: yeah
2015-06-19 00:21 Kuki: well
2015-06-19 00:21 Kuki: don't
2015-06-19 00:21 Kuki: lmao
2015-06-19 00:21 Kuki: it's too much
2015-06-19 00:21 Kuki: It got to a point when I was just like
2015-06-19 00:22 Kuki: okay sounds like there might be a break thank god
2015-06-19 00:22 Kuki: and there was done
2015-06-19 00:22 Kuki: and it eventually escalated to "when will this finger torture end"
2015-06-19 00:22 Aiceo: yeah well i can't really insert any more breaks
2015-06-19 00:22 Kuki: chucking in more sliders would be nice I think
2015-06-19 00:22 Kuki: yeah
2015-06-19 00:22 Kuki: I know
2015-06-19 00:23 Kuki: I see that
2015-06-19 00:23 Kuki: more sliders could help with that though
2015-06-19 00:23 Kuki: cause it seems a bit repetitive
2015-06-19 00:23 Kuki: I mean
2015-06-19 00:23 Kuki: the song's very repetitive
2015-06-19 00:23 Kuki: but it doesn't mean the map needs to be
2015-06-19 00:23 Aiceo: it has variety imo, the 1/2 sliders and stuff
2015-06-19 00:24 Aiceo: 1/4*
2015-06-19 00:24 Aiceo: spamming 1/2 sliders won't make a difference
2015-06-19 00:24 Kuki: 1/4 sliders
2015-06-19 00:24 Aiceo: brb
2015-06-19 00:24 Kuki: more of 1/4 sliders
2015-06-19 00:24 Kuki: k
2015-06-19 00:31 Aiceo: hey im back
2015-06-19 00:31 Kuki: k
2015-06-19 00:32 Kuki: just
2015-06-19 00:32 Kuki: ACTION is watching [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/625323 Razihel & Virtual Riot - One For All, All For One [Together We've Fallen]] +Hidden +HardRock
2015-06-19 00:32 Kuki: 1 sec
2015-06-19 00:32 Kuki: lol
2015-06-19 00:35 Kuki: k
2015-06-19 00:35 Kuki: ACTION is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/687303 TwoThirds & Feint - Epiphany (feat. Veela) [Revelation]]
2015-06-19 00:38 Kuki: I can't really see anything
2015-06-19 00:38 Kuki: advice wise i'll tell you to watch for overlaps though
2015-06-19 00:38 Kuki: while playing overlaps look really ugly
2015-06-19 00:38 Kuki: editor too
2015-06-19 00:38 Aiceo: lol
2015-06-19 00:39 Aiceo: uh
2015-06-19 00:39 Aiceo: probably
2015-06-19 00:39 Aiceo: not my part
2015-06-19 00:39 Aiceo: i don't do overlaps
2015-06-19 00:39 Kuki: oh it's collab
2015-06-19 00:40 Kuki: didn't realise
2015-06-19 00:40 Kuki: well I mean
2015-06-19 00:40 Kuki: general rule really
2015-06-19 00:40 Kuki: just watch out for overlaps
2015-06-19 00:40 Kuki: cause ugly
2015-06-19 00:41 Kuki: 06:34:838 (4,5,6,7,1) - I assume this isn't your part but I really like this
2015-06-19 00:41 Kuki: since it's low bpm it would be nice to see more spaced streams in kiai since they're really fun and look really nice.
2015-06-19 00:41 Kuki: but yeah
2015-06-19 00:41 Kuki: that's it for me
2015-06-19 00:41 Kuki: i'll post logs I guess
guineaQ
BeatofIke
Excellent map. Have a star ^_^
Nyukai
[General]

  1. add collab / collaboration in tags for obvious reasons o3o
[Revelation]

  1. 00:24:210 (3,4) - the flow is a bit weird here, Ctrl+G them?
  2. 00:27:810 (2,3) - same?
  3. 01:15:637 (1) - the end of this seems not correctly snapped if I'm not mistaken.
  4. 02:09:295 (1) - add whistle at the end? it really fits with music imo.
  5. 02:55:752 (8) - this green line is unsnapped for 4 ms, you can check it by yourself.
  6. 03:39:637 (9) - NC? the music is more or less the same as 01:27:638 (5,6,7,8,1) - and there's a NC at the last note o3o
  7. 04:21:123 (2) - same as 01:15:637 (1) - ;w;
  8. 04:24:895 (6) - uh since this part I see another NC consistency, then here 04:46:838 (1) - you're back to the current consistency while the music doesn't change at all, not a big problem but better fix this because suddenly I see a big number of combos and I feel like the consistency is broken and it's really noticeable imo =w=
  9. 06:34:838 (4,5,6,7,1) - wow, this is kinda sudden and confusing, firstly I thought they had another rhythm o.o you always used more or less the same spacing when you map this rhythm, I suggest to change this because it could be a big problem for players even for pro ones
  10. 06:56:781 (1,5) - swap NC
Awesome map o3o
Topic Starter
Aiceo

Inyuschan wrote:

[General]

  1. add collab / collaboration in tags for obvious reasons o3o okay


[Revelation]

  1. 00:24:210 (3,4) - the flow is a bit weird here, Ctrl+G them? nah i think its fine
  2. 00:27:810 (2,3) - same?
  3. 01:15:637 (1) - the end of this seems not correctly snapped if I'm not mistaken.
  4. 02:09:295 (1) - add whistle at the end? it really fits with music imo.
  5. 02:55:752 (8) - this green line is unsnapped for 4 ms, you can check it by yourself.
  6. 03:39:637 (9) - NC? the music is more or less the same as 01:27:638 (5,6,7,8,1) - and there's a NC at the last note o3o
  7. 04:21:123 (2) - same as 01:15:637 (1) - ;w; yup fixed
  8. 04:24:895 (6) - uh since this part I see another NC consistency, then here 04:46:838 (1) - you're back to the current consistency while the music doesn't change at all, not a big problem but better fix this because suddenly I see a big number of combos and I feel like the consistency is broken and it's really noticeable imo =w= Yeah i fixed the ncing there
  9. 06:34:838 (4,5,6,7,1) - wow, this is kinda sudden and confusing, firstly I thought they had another rhythm o.o you always used more or less the same spacing when you map this rhythm, I suggest to change this because it could be a big problem for players even for pro ones Yeah illl reduce the spacing a bit
  10. 06:56:781 (1,5) - swap NC
yup

Awesome map o3o
Thanks for the mod!
A Mystery

Inyuschan wrote:

[Revelation]

  1. 01:15:637 (1) - the end of this seems not correctly snapped if I'm not mistaken. - Not sure what you mean, Slider looks fine to me
  2. 02:09:295 (1) - add whistle at the end? it really fits with music imo.
  3. 02:55:752 (8) - this green line is unsnapped for 4 ms, you can check it by yourself. - Fixed
  4. 03:39:637 (9) - NC? the music is more or less the same as 01:27:638 (5,6,7,8,1) - and there's a NC at the last note o3o - Added (pls don't hurt me hula)
Awesome map o3o
Thanks for modding!
Avena
Fixed some missing hitsounds, a small error of colors with the storyboard and some small patterns.

Bubble #1
Nyukai
No kudosu, it's just a recheck.

  1. As I've said the OD seems a bit excessive for this kind of map. Maybe OD8.5?
  2. 03:39:295 (1) - This NC is unnecessary o3o
  3. 04:12:552 (1) - Missing whistle?
  4. 04:18:038 (1) - Same.
  5. 06:34:838 (1,2,3,4,1) - I thought you were going to fix this...
Let me know.
Nyukai
Bubbled #2~
Secretpipe
Wheeeee~

EDIT : 2manyqualifiedmapsfortoday c:

come back tomorrow!
VINXIS
smth smth mandatory post about how manual sbing is the dumest thing to exist smth smth post
Nyukai

Secretpipe wrote:

Wheeeee~

EDIT : 2manyqualifiedmapsfortoday c:

come back tomorrow!
Actually you can come back in 2 hours more or less w
Krfawy
Combo colors are very bright and they are too similar to the background/storyboard. That might cause a disqualify if you ask me.
Combo2 : 183,70,123
Combo3 : 213,70,73

BTW OD9.3 pls so it's the same like AR and it gives a little bit more pp. You know, we should support players during their hard work, shall we? \WWWWWWWW/

EDIT: Instead of looking at cute songs and cute maps go back to my Kac (TV Size) and mod it & circle it as you promised 2 months ago you Baguette. : /
Topic Starter
Aiceo
The colours should be fine imo.
Secretpipe

Secretpipe wrote:

Wheeeee~
Mint
niceeeeeee :)
meii18
Congratulations
Topic Starter
Aiceo
Thanks everyone xd!
A Mystery
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Cherry Blossom
Hello.

There could be a lot of improvements on this map. This map is fun to play, but there is a lot of weird and clunky things concerning its structure.
The quality could be improved a lot, imo the ranking process of that map is just messed up, seriously.


  • Examples of weird things.
  1. 00:22:496 (3,4,5,6,7) - First, could you explain me why there is a different spacing here ? it looks more clunky than intentional. And also, the flow could be improved here, AR9.3 helps a lot the player to play this pattern naturally. And same for 00:23:182 (8) -
  2. 00:32:610 (5,6) - I don't really get your logic, sometimes there is a higher spacing, and sometimes there is a smaller. I mean, compared to the previous note of each streams. And that could be not comfortable to play for a player, and thanks to the OD9, when playing, you see that you're hitting the objects too early because the player gets 100.
  3. 00:39:467 (6,7,8) - Here too, this is really unfortable to play for a player, he is just helped with AR9.3. There is a different spacing, and the angle between these circles is near to 180*, everything that makes a pattern not comfortable to play.
  4. 05:47:524 (2,3) - Here the flow could be improved, the circle (3) doesn't allow players to play the previous slider properly, and they could get a 100 on this slider, Just see (3) is at the same place as (8) :
I didn't check carefully the whole map, i just pointed out some examples to show you that this map could be improved a lot.
I don't really see a lot of mods, This kind of maps is a little challenging, and this kind of maps needs more testplays, more feedbacks and more mods from experienced persons. And also, as i said, the ranking process of this map is messed up, you must be joking...
Topic Starter
Aiceo
Sorry for placing notes 1mm off, never did use DS anyways. I think that part should be mapped with the flow breaks you mentioned because it fits the music, considering sliders don't even fit in that part anyways. Yes I know i still used them, but it's because of obvious reasons


I got no fucking idea what you just said, try hitting 300.

Also this is how you play that slider and it works p well imo:



And no I'm not joking, if you actually look at the map and listen to the song, you'll see that it's super repetitive, meaning that the map is super repetitive and patterns are repeating themselves over and over again, which means it doesn't really need a lot of modding. And for your information I did have a huge amount of testplays, I just never mention them in the description, because who the hell cares?
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