I've been on both sides, so that can't really apply here. Plat definitely has more people who should get a life, or at least a reality check. :p
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Hmm I don't know, I was stuck platinum all season 4 & never found it uber toxic. Yes, there was some toxic players but just like in all other leagues from bronze to challenger I guessAurani wrote:
I've been on both sides, so that can't really apply here. Plat definitely has more people who should get a life, or at least a reality check. :p
Seems like only I meet people who have their arses clogged so much that they have to let their feces through their mouths.
Can't believe T8 threw the game like that today...
Dodo got caught so muchGraciee wrote:
Can't believe T8 threw the game like that today...
Also, took me a while, but i finally got it
Not like it means much though
I feel nothing but pity for that guy. He's just mentally challenged, and I feel a burning pain in my chest when I think how he was raised and how twisted his heart is. He is not even worth a second of my time.
I still don't understand how ekko works, I guess ill have to try him in some bot games or something..
he kills
everybody dies
everybody dies
Basically, after you get your ult, plan it so you bait your opponent into being near your image (easy to do versus guys who have no awareness), and then you have 2 choices:Renevant wrote:
I still don't understand how ekko works, I guess ill have to try him in some bot games or something..
If you are certain they'll remain around it (I mean your ult DOES have an enormous aoe) drop your Q, and with a little skill, they get hit twice, E onto them to proc those 3 stacks and then ult.... if they aren't dead by then, use ignite. :p
The other choice is doing it backwards - ult first, then when you're right next to them, Q, and while it's floating and waiting for that second trigger, E onto them, and when it returns, it'll proc the 3rd strike, dealing tonnes of damage. :p
Alternatively, you can use your ult to TP back into the lane, but then you have to be certain that either you'll win every trade against your opponent and can kill them without using your ult (which is a BIG damage dealing and HP recovery tool), or you have a premade jungler who will camp your lane hard.
No, more often than not Ekko ult is to save you, similar to Zed ult. But if you can safely use it to damage, then yeah
That's not what I've seen.OzzyOzrock wrote:
No, more often than not Ekko ult is to save you, similar to Zed ult.
And what? Zed ult mostly used to save you?
I can safely say that his ult is always going to be used in higher ranked (during the laning phase only) as a free TP back to the lane, above everything else, as I've watched numerous games and almost every damn Ekko I see is never using his ult in the laning phase for damage/heals, but for a cheap, low CD TP.
Back in lower elo, it's easy as shit to just let your opponent walk into your image, and they're mildly screwed from that point on, as his ult has, I believe, 130% AP ratio, with 200-250 base damage (too lazy to check) on the first rank. That's more than enough to rape a third of a level 6 midder's HP. He is definitely going to receive a nerf on his 3-hit proc in the future, too.
Back in lower elo, it's easy as shit to just let your opponent walk into your image, and they're mildly screwed from that point on, as his ult has, I believe, 130% AP ratio, with 200-250 base damage (too lazy to check) on the first rank. That's more than enough to rape a third of a level 6 midder's HP. He is definitely going to receive a nerf on his 3-hit proc in the future, too.
Yes, going back to shadow.EneT wrote:
That's not what I've seen.OzzyOzrock wrote:
No, more often than not Ekko ult is to save you, similar to Zed ult.
And what? Zed ult mostly used to save you?
I wanted the new Lee skin but it becomes less and less appealing as I see it :c
That's not the main function of his ult, re-think your statement.OzzyOzrock wrote:
Yes, going back to shadow.
Ekko's pretty much is however. The damage portion of the ult is rarely a good option, and it is more used as a way to let you go ham, then go back. Zed was just an ability to compare it to.
Yeah it allows for safe dives and grants access to very reliable escape. Using it to deal damage is rather tricky assuming the enemies are not stupid enough to keep walking on Ekko's hologram.OzzyOzrock wrote:
Ekko's pretty much is however. The damage portion of the ult is rarely a good option, and it is more used as a way to let you go ham, then go back. Zed was just an ability to compare it to.
Meanwhile, in Gold-tier Ranked...
Yes, my HP bar is glitched, don't question it xD
Yes, my HP bar is glitched, don't question it xD
Why are your life bar's glitched?
lol wow, was the other team having fun?Dainesl wrote:
Meanwhile, in Gold-tier Ranked...
ryze is so balanced
I don't know, it was just a random bug that started to happen and it's still going on, it's been like this for a couple weeks now :/EneT wrote:
Why are your life bar's glitched?
This recent patch has been weird, I've been crashing a lot too.
Crashing? I've been playing every day and am in a lobby right now - no crashes to this date. Also no glitches or weird bugs, either.
Though, I DID experience what it's like to play on EUW for the first time, the day before yesterday, when I was on the TTL, server completely died for some reason and everyone had 700 ping. Killing shit was fun - one second you're csing, another second triple kill. lol
Though, I DID experience what it's like to play on EUW for the first time, the day before yesterday, when I was on the TTL, server completely died for some reason and everyone had 700 ping. Killing shit was fun - one second you're csing, another second triple kill. lol
y Ekko so op :c
Because he's a new champ, simple.
Just got reminded of The Yordles... damnit, the nostalgia.. it's too much....
That didn't apply to Vel'koz and Bard though (which was rather surprising, lol)EneT wrote:
Because he's a new champ, simple.
And there goes my win streak...
I feel like the game would be a lot better if Riot would actually give more qualified people access to the PBE server instead of random kids that never report any bugs and are unable to give any sort of constructive criticism or give valuable feedback.
I haven't played in over a month because I dislike the state of the game as it is right now (and also because The Witcher 3 and ESO have kept me busy).
I haven't played in over a month because I dislike the state of the game as it is right now (and also because The Witcher 3 and ESO have kept me busy).
I find it hilarious I still have PBE access even though I haven't logged into it in over a year. Since the Feral Flare testing/nerfs.
Even the people who report bugs (unless its something major) and post good informing stuff are pretty much ignored. The thread I made about that shitty jungle item that got Warwick nerfed was completely ignored despite the math I provided and the upvotes I got.
It's less about unqualified people having access and more about Riot simply not giving a shit.
Even the people who report bugs (unless its something major) and post good informing stuff are pretty much ignored. The thread I made about that shitty jungle item that got Warwick nerfed was completely ignored despite the math I provided and the upvotes I got.
It's less about unqualified people having access and more about Riot simply not giving a shit.
Same, i only use it to look at skins im about to buyVulf wrote:
I find it hilarious I still have PBE access even though I haven't logged into it in over a year.
Seeing Vayne being played on LCS always makes me smile.
Kami Kun
Meanwhile me trying Bard in normals for 1st time
http://gyazo.com/356c6248ebb21b76e66aac3e9044a44a
http://gyazo.com/356c6248ebb21b76e66aac3e9044a44a
LoL NA absorb my limited access xD
any1 else think ekko is broken
In the hands of a skilled player, he sort of is, but when your average LoL player plays him? Nah, perfectly fine.
EUW
Played on EUNE in s1 and s2 - friend went over to EUW and convinced me that it's much better than EUNE... worst possible lie ever. :V
Played on EUNE in s1 and s2 - friend went over to EUW and convinced me that it's much better than EUNE... worst possible lie ever. :V
Ekko is easy lol
We should play together sometimes then ! Add ErogeAurani wrote:
EUW
Played on EUNE in s1 and s2 - friend went over to EUW and convinced me that it's much better than EUNE... worst possible lie ever. :V
Alright. I've added you on my slightly confusing acc. :p
You should know when you've been added - it's Vic.
You should know when you've been added - it's Vic.
Pssh you don't have a leisurely acc, that's probably your main, don't lie.
My main remained on EUNE. I don't have the kind of money to throw on a server change, mind you. :p
Took people long enough to see Ryze's power
Meanwhile I just made a comeback from 250 HP on the Nexus when they were a group of 4 and we managed to turn it into a win.
I don't know how but okay.
I don't know how but okay.
i need friends to play with D:
Server: NA
Summoner: Battle Bambi
Server: NA
Summoner: Battle Bambi
You missed the thread, mate. There is one above this dedicated to sharing your darn name with other people. :p
That thread is dead though.
We can get a mongrel mod to edit it so it becomes a place where you share your name with others, basically like the "find a friend" thread. Add a couple of details like the number of games you've played so far, your preferred mode, ranking (if you're into playing ranked with others) et cetera et cetera.
Maybe, just maybe we could make it work, perhaps?
Maybe, just maybe we could make it work, perhaps?
Oh you just reminded me of that gay-ass, cringe-worthy "Find a friend" thread.
I merely used it as a reference. Of course I'd love to avoid such a circlejerking and attention-seeking, feces-filled thread, but it's the best reference I could think of.
If someone really wanted to, they could just collect all of the names from the last couple months and put it into a list, then ask a mod to edit it into the first post.
Two S+ ranks in a row with Thresh gives me a fuzzy feeling
Now I need to do it in ranked..
Now I need to do it in ranked..
You're getting S+ ranks while I'm only getting freaking...A- to A+ most of the time (even with zero or one deaths) and I main Thresh ;_;
how2nida lol
That hexakill, They're back! lol
#dedthread
#dedthread
Anyone wants to spam aram 5 mans for pool party ip bonus?
ip boost maybeGraciee wrote:
Anyone wants to spam aram 5 mans for pool party ip bonus?
Riot knew perfectly well that we would not get the free Mundo skin lol.
I haven't played lig of lagans in awhile; I've probably de-ranked by now.
Getting 7 reports for spamming "You belong in a museum" for 30 minutes straight is so damn fun. Every single guy in the enemy team focused me as much as he could, and that was their downfall - baited to death.
[you belong in a museum intensifies]
[you belong in a museum intensifies]
Still nowhere as close than spamming hyena warwick laugh every 5 seconds.Aurani wrote:
Getting 7 reports for spamming "You belong in a museum" for 30 minutes straight is so damn fun. Every single guy in the enemy team focused me as much as he could, and that was their downfall - baited to death.
[you belong in a museum intensifies]
Oh dear, the chat reactions.
Traditional Trundle's laugh ._.
To achieve the best spam effect, you need to play aram, where everyone is ALWAYS there and as they have no means of escaping, they're forced to listen to it, regardless of what they do.
I still have no idea why they just don't turn off the sound altogether and instead just listen to obnoxious noises. Masochists? Maybe.
I still have no idea why they just don't turn off the sound altogether and instead just listen to obnoxious noises. Masochists? Maybe.
They want to delve themselves into the game and listen to the hi-def sounds that only League has to offer.
Might as well place a rabid dog next to your leg and listen to the exquisite sounds of death and despair.
I just got Zed... time to spam them again. =D
I just got Zed... time to spam them again. =D
Ranked 5s is so stressful... sometimes it feels like it's worse than solo queue @@
i kind of gave up on ranked this year ;-; but i just had a great match
Graciee wrote:
Ranked 5s is so stressful... sometimes it feels like it's worse than solo queue @@
Ranked 5s is fun if you have the right group, but my team fell apart and some of my friends we added just weren't taking the game as seriously or had weird schedules so we kind of quit playing. I really like 5s though because you can pull off all kinds of plays you'd never see in solo queue.
Pretty much what happens every time I try to join a ranked 5s team. Even though they say it's gonna be serious most ppl give up after a few lost games or ppl just go back to doing their own thing D: But yeah pulling off sick wombo combo plays with your team feels great.Host Change wrote:
Graciee wrote:
Ranked 5s is so stressful... sometimes it feels like it's worse than solo queue @@
Ranked 5s is fun if you have the right group, but my team fell apart and some of my friends we added just weren't taking the game as seriously or had weird schedules so we kind of quit playing. I really like 5s though because you can pull off all kinds of plays you'd never see in solo queue.
Huni from Fnatic is absolutely adorable. EU LCS actually has character now.
In Champ selection, why alwayis auto-locked lmao
I don't even understand what you're saying.-SayaKai wrote:
In Champ selection, why alwayis auto-locked lmao
It's funny when someone fails to get the point I'm making.
I swear I could just fit all people like this into a box called Plat 5, chances are I would be 90% right especially since people like this are so common
Holy shit I just had a 1 hour 15 min long League game. My team fed hard and the enemy team ended up with 3 barons and 3 of our inhibs down. Even still, when teamfights came around, I'd just wreck house with Vayne and they would lose every single one. There were about 4 - 5 teamfights in which they attempted to end the game with all of our inhibs down; we won all of them but in the end we couldn't really advance to their base with so many minions threatening ours. So when the time came when we decided to actually make an attempt to go to their base, poor decision-making led to me dying. With me dead they were free to end the game. Fuck me, I hate losing to shit people; those guys were complete Platinum level shit.
Help is needed! Tiny wall of text in here
Hello guys, I'm a support main and I need your help!
I find myself playing top or jungle in 70% of my ranked games because the support role is getting more and more popular (at least one or two people prefer support in my team when I q up). When I got level 30, I started to play ranked immediately - my "main role" was top at that time (I started playing in Season 3, around Lunar Revel, when Lissandra/Aatrox were released) - I spammed Irelia, Gangplank and Darius because those were my most loved Champions and Gangplank still holds that title but I was forced to fill most of the time so I fell in love with support. Now, I'm struggling with match-ups and little knowledge about what damage certain champions are dealing. For example if I play mid, Ahri or Karma are my to-go champs. I know what damage I can deal at a certain point of the game - which is not the case in top. Now I'm asking: what are some easy to pick up champs you guys can recommend? Whenever I'm forced to play top now I play Irelia, at rare occasions Wukong, Lulu or Gangplank because those are the ones I'm comfortable with. When it comes to jungling my favorite is Nautilus whom I picked up when I started playing, Sejuani - always banned or Vi who is a really safe pick most of the time. I can also tell you my Division if that helps - I'm stuck in Gold 5 since I got promoted from Silver 1 - mainly because of the reason above haha - so I hope you can help a fellow League Player (I think this is the second time I'm asking for advice for top because of the meta shifts haha)
I find myself playing top or jungle in 70% of my ranked games because the support role is getting more and more popular (at least one or two people prefer support in my team when I q up). When I got level 30, I started to play ranked immediately - my "main role" was top at that time (I started playing in Season 3, around Lunar Revel, when Lissandra/Aatrox were released) - I spammed Irelia, Gangplank and Darius because those were my most loved Champions and Gangplank still holds that title but I was forced to fill most of the time so I fell in love with support. Now, I'm struggling with match-ups and little knowledge about what damage certain champions are dealing. For example if I play mid, Ahri or Karma are my to-go champs. I know what damage I can deal at a certain point of the game - which is not the case in top. Now I'm asking: what are some easy to pick up champs you guys can recommend? Whenever I'm forced to play top now I play Irelia, at rare occasions Wukong, Lulu or Gangplank because those are the ones I'm comfortable with. When it comes to jungling my favorite is Nautilus whom I picked up when I started playing, Sejuani - always banned or Vi who is a really safe pick most of the time. I can also tell you my Division if that helps - I'm stuck in Gold 5 since I got promoted from Silver 1 - mainly because of the reason above haha - so I hope you can help a fellow League Player (I think this is the second time I'm asking for advice for top because of the meta shifts haha)
Irelia makes you have to manage your stun and all that, so I would've thought she was mechanically moderately difficult.
Riven on the other hand, oh boy. Mobility up the ass? Check. A delete button at Level 6? Check. Hell, if you get slightly fed as Riven your shield makes you tanky as hell, and did I mention her ability to delete anyone?
Ryze has that targeted root which kinda makes him extremely annoying to deal with, but they nerfed his passive really hard in terms of duration and you need to max your Q in order to get it even close to what it was before. His early game is better, but late-game he's been slightly nerfed overall.
Vladimir is a pretty safe pick as you have practically infinite sustain in lane if you don't get too harassed and late-game he becomes extremely hard to deal with if he's fed, since he has high HP and high damage output.
Cho'gath is another champ with high sustain but if you spam your Q too much then rip you because you run out of mana so quickly, I swear. However you do need to be good at csing in order for this to work. Also, I don't know if he's played top that much any more, I usually see him mid now.
Other top laners such as Darius and Sion may be quite safe picks for you if you think that you need some safety, and Garen is easy to play from what I remember, like, really easy. Your mileage may vary, of course, but there are quite a lot of viable top laners.
Riven on the other hand, oh boy. Mobility up the ass? Check. A delete button at Level 6? Check. Hell, if you get slightly fed as Riven your shield makes you tanky as hell, and did I mention her ability to delete anyone?
Ryze has that targeted root which kinda makes him extremely annoying to deal with, but they nerfed his passive really hard in terms of duration and you need to max your Q in order to get it even close to what it was before. His early game is better, but late-game he's been slightly nerfed overall.
Vladimir is a pretty safe pick as you have practically infinite sustain in lane if you don't get too harassed and late-game he becomes extremely hard to deal with if he's fed, since he has high HP and high damage output.
Cho'gath is another champ with high sustain but if you spam your Q too much then rip you because you run out of mana so quickly, I swear. However you do need to be good at csing in order for this to work. Also, I don't know if he's played top that much any more, I usually see him mid now.
Other top laners such as Darius and Sion may be quite safe picks for you if you think that you need some safety, and Garen is easy to play from what I remember, like, really easy. Your mileage may vary, of course, but there are quite a lot of viable top laners.
Maokai is pretty fun to play in top lane. All you have to do is farm pre-6 and get your core items.
You need to know animation cancel when it comes to Riven.
It can be hard to play Vladimir in early game cause he has a hard time farming under turret.
Irelia is also fun to play but I think she does nothing when behind.
Rumble is also one of the champions I play top. It's kind of tricky to play him but once you get used to him, it's pretty fun. You need to know how to cs properly while maintaining your heat. Though once you overheat, your csing can be pretty easy, downside is you can't use your abilities. His core items are pretty cheap too you can achieve your powerspike easily. You can delete mispositioned carries with your Flamespitter and Harpoons easy. I think his ult requires practice. Auto-cast isn't recommended for his ult since it's hard. His ult can be devastating when enemy team are grouped.
You need to know animation cancel when it comes to Riven.
It can be hard to play Vladimir in early game cause he has a hard time farming under turret.
Irelia is also fun to play but I think she does nothing when behind.
Rumble is also one of the champions I play top. It's kind of tricky to play him but once you get used to him, it's pretty fun. You need to know how to cs properly while maintaining your heat. Though once you overheat, your csing can be pretty easy, downside is you can't use your abilities. His core items are pretty cheap too you can achieve your powerspike easily. You can delete mispositioned carries with your Flamespitter and Harpoons easy. I think his ult requires practice. Auto-cast isn't recommended for his ult since it's hard. His ult can be devastating when enemy team are grouped.
Looking for some recommendations at top lane as well and some per gameplay.
I played against my higher-ranked friend who said I play obsessively passive - which is true. I don't like being risky, if I'm getting a kill, I don't want it to be at the risk of getting instantly killed shortly there after. However, he also mentioned that I shouldn't be playing champions that are suppose to be aggressive. (ie: My favourite champion in Gangplank).
Any recommendations on passive played champions, preferred melee? My champions for the past year or two have been Gangplank, Garen, Wukong and Malphite.
Nasus was one of his recommendations.
I played against my higher-ranked friend who said I play obsessively passive - which is true. I don't like being risky, if I'm getting a kill, I don't want it to be at the risk of getting instantly killed shortly there after. However, he also mentioned that I shouldn't be playing champions that are suppose to be aggressive. (ie: My favourite champion in Gangplank).
Any recommendations on passive played champions, preferred melee? My champions for the past year or two have been Gangplank, Garen, Wukong and Malphite.
Nasus was one of his recommendations.
To be honest, as a top laner you're not going to improve in rank by staying passive, as top lane is an innately aggressive lane due to many of the champs being melee.
Passive champs in top lane would mostly include tank champs like Maokai and Sion but even still, as I have mentioned above, you need to be somewhat aggressive and learn how to trade against the opponent. You could go for Nasus but playing Nasus extensively can make you fall into bad top lane habits. Nasus is the epitome of passive as you can't trade at all in the early game but can just go full retard in the late-game due to having a million stacks. Playing Nasus may just make you worse at top lane because this is not how top lane should essentially meant to be played(In a high rank perspective). You are meant to be aggressive, you are meant to engage, you are the brute force of the team. In general, if you want to improve top lane just learn to trade and learn when to back off; all you need to do is pressure the enemy top laner but also to not die. Pressuring them can force them to waste TP to get back into lane and that gives you TP advantage, just be wary of their attack patterns and keep track of where the enemy jungler is. Back away if you feel any danger and use your TP advantage to gain objectives.
This applies for everyone and every lane; trading a 1 for 1 kill against the enemy top laner isn't worth it as you both sacrifice gold, exp and summoners. Although you do net a kill, you are put behind the rest of the enemy team and that is what is important. Your goal is not to best your enemy laner, it is to scale up against the enemy team.Justykanna wrote:
I don't like being risky, if I'm getting a kill, I don't want it to be at the risk of getting instantly killed shortly there after.
Passive champs in top lane would mostly include tank champs like Maokai and Sion but even still, as I have mentioned above, you need to be somewhat aggressive and learn how to trade against the opponent. You could go for Nasus but playing Nasus extensively can make you fall into bad top lane habits. Nasus is the epitome of passive as you can't trade at all in the early game but can just go full retard in the late-game due to having a million stacks. Playing Nasus may just make you worse at top lane because this is not how top lane should essentially meant to be played(In a high rank perspective). You are meant to be aggressive, you are meant to engage, you are the brute force of the team. In general, if you want to improve top lane just learn to trade and learn when to back off; all you need to do is pressure the enemy top laner but also to not die. Pressuring them can force them to waste TP to get back into lane and that gives you TP advantage, just be wary of their attack patterns and keep track of where the enemy jungler is. Back away if you feel any danger and use your TP advantage to gain objectives.
Lol, I don't play passive because I want to. I just dunno how to play aggressive at all. And people saying "Just learn" doesn't help. I honestly dunno how I'm Silver with so many flaws in my game in a lane that apparently doesn't suit me at all. (Which is funny to me)EneT wrote:
To be honest, as a top laner you're not going to improve in rank by staying passive, as top lane is an innately aggressive lane due to many of the champs being melee.This applies for everyone and every lane; trading a 1 for 1 kill against the enemy top laner isn't worth it as you both sacrifice gold, exp and summoners. Although you do net a kill, you are put behind the rest of the enemy team and that is what is important. Your goal is not to best your enemy laner, it is to scale up against the enemy team.Justykanna wrote:
I don't like being risky, if I'm getting a kill, I don't want it to be at the risk of getting instantly killed shortly there after.
Passive champs in top lane would mostly include tank champs like Maokai and Sion but even still, as I have mentioned above, you need to be somewhat aggressive and learn how to trade against the opponent. You could go for Nasus but playing Nasus extensively can make you fall into bad top lane habits. Nasus is the epitome of passive as you can't trade at all in the early game but can just go full retard in the late-game due to having a million stacks. Playing Nasus may just make you worse at top lane because this is not how top lane should essentially meant to be played(In a high rank perspective). You are meant to be aggressive, you are meant to engage, you are the brute force of the team. In general, if you want to improve top lane just learn to trade and learn when to back off; all you need to do is pressure the enemy top laner but also to not die. Pressuring them can force them to waste TP to get back into lane and that gives you TP advantage, just be wary of their attack patterns and keep track of where the enemy jungler is. Back away if you feel any danger and use your TP advantage to gain objectives.
"Well if no one is mia and the jungler is in a lane, then obviously you can push further". Well duh, the jungler's mia for large portions at a time. By theory, that should mean never push the lane or force or engage because they're almost always missing. You can't ward everything all the time.
Anyways.
How do you trade effectively then? I find every time I try to engage, I end up losing a trade, which further makes me want to play more passively - because I'm losing trades. People say to wait for enemy CDs but I wait for that and instead of finding an engage, the enemy laner just backs off and I can't do anything to force them to fight me. I've heard the compare the items part too and I'd lose trades with the same items. Drives me nuts because I dunno when a good time to go in is.
I get that people want me to play aggressive but they're asking me to 100% change from one extreme end (of being passive) to the other. That's not fixable overnight for a low-ranking player (who should probably be in low-Bronze).
People make fixes sound simple. I dunno how.
Ok, I might not be able to tell you everything since it heavily depends on the matchup but I can tell you a few things to improve your laning.
Level 1 and the first wave of minions are a very important part of the game for both top laners and bot laners. This is the point at which the dominant laner can be decided. At level 1 you want to push the lane as fast as possible to get level 2 first (This is why Renekton used to be such a good, dominant lane opponent). By getting level 2 first you can get the jump on the enemy and win a big trade (blow potions/flash or maybe even get a kill depending on the matchup).
Now onto trading. Trading is best done when your opponent is going in for a CS. This puts them into a decision; do they trade with you or do they go for the CS and lose the trade? Either way you're the dominant one in this situation calling the shots; just don't go all in, an auto attack added with a skill is enough.
Considering you mained champs like Gangplank and Malphite; those champs are not really great at trading compared to top meta champs like Gnar, hecarim, Irelia and Ryze. Gangplank for example cannot go full melee against those guys as they all have consistent forms of damage. So for Gangplank you need to focus on just shooting them whenever they get close for a CS and then back off; you can go all in once they get low.
Other than that I can't really say much since the majority of trading depends on the matchup. If you were to give me a matchup I could go more into detail; even better if you give me a matchup that includes a champ that I actually actively use such as Irelia or Rumble.
Level 1 and the first wave of minions are a very important part of the game for both top laners and bot laners. This is the point at which the dominant laner can be decided. At level 1 you want to push the lane as fast as possible to get level 2 first (This is why Renekton used to be such a good, dominant lane opponent). By getting level 2 first you can get the jump on the enemy and win a big trade (blow potions/flash or maybe even get a kill depending on the matchup).
Now onto trading. Trading is best done when your opponent is going in for a CS. This puts them into a decision; do they trade with you or do they go for the CS and lose the trade? Either way you're the dominant one in this situation calling the shots; just don't go all in, an auto attack added with a skill is enough.
Considering you mained champs like Gangplank and Malphite; those champs are not really great at trading compared to top meta champs like Gnar, hecarim, Irelia and Ryze. Gangplank for example cannot go full melee against those guys as they all have consistent forms of damage. So for Gangplank you need to focus on just shooting them whenever they get close for a CS and then back off; you can go all in once they get low.
Other than that I can't really say much since the majority of trading depends on the matchup. If you were to give me a matchup I could go more into detail; even better if you give me a matchup that includes a champ that I actually actively use such as Irelia or Rumble.
Yeah a buddy of mine used to say to just auto attack them when they go for a CS but the problems I have with this was 1: This requires reflexes that I just don't have and 2: He uses all ranged champions where I use all melee - which is something I didn't realize for the longest time so I'd end up autoing them when they go for a CS and I'd end up taking more damage from the trade.EneT wrote:
Ok, I might not be able to tell you everything since it heavily depends on the matchup but I can tell you a few things to improve your laning.
Level 1 and the first wave of minions are a very important part of the game for both top laners and bot laners. This is the point at which the dominant laner can be decided. At level 1 you want to push the lane as fast as possible to get level 2 first (This is why Renekton used to be such a good, dominant lane opponent). By getting level 2 first you can get the jump on the enemy and win a big trade (blow potions/flash or maybe even get a kill depending on the matchup).
Now onto trading. Trading is best done when your opponent is going in for a CS. This puts them into a decision; do they trade with you or do they go for the CS and lose the trade? Either way you're the dominant one in this situation calling the shots; just don't go all in, an auto attack added with a skill is enough.
Considering you mained champs like Gangplank and Malphite; those champs are not really great at trading compared to top meta champs like Gnar, hecarim, Irelia and Ryze. Gangplank for example cannot go full melee against those guys as they all have consistent forms of damage. So for Gangplank you need to focus on just shooting them whenever they get close for a CS and then back off; you can go all in once they get low.
Other than that I can't really say much since the majority of trading depends on the matchup. If you were to give me a matchup I could go more into detail; even better if you give me a matchup that includes a champ that I actually actively use such as Irelia or Rumble.
I'm well known between my friends for not using meta picks, lol. I used to be a little more aggressive on the Q poking on Gangplank, but I found I went out of mana a lot. I guess I need to figure out whose good at trading and who isn't because someone telling me that Gangplank and Malphite aren't good at trading is news to me.
Thanks for your help EneT!
No Problem, glad to help youJustykanna wrote:
Yeah a buddy of mine used to say to just auto attack them when they go for a CS but the problems I have with this was 1: This requires reflexes that I just don't have and 2: He uses all ranged champions where I use all melee - which is something I didn't realize for the longest time so I'd end up autoing them when they go for a CS and I'd end up taking more damage from the trade.
I'm well known between my friends for not using meta picks, lol. I used to be a little more aggressive on the Q poking on Gangplank, but I found I went out of mana a lot. I guess I need to figure out whose good at trading and who isn't because someone telling me that Gangplank and Malphite aren't good at trading is news to me.
Thanks for your help EneT!
If your lane opponent is playing someone ranged and you're playing someone like Malph, the best thing to do is to let them push and farm under your tower. That means you're going to have to learn how to farm under tower. With Malph, it takes him 1-2 auto attacks + 2 turret shots to kill a melee minion since he lacks AD and for a caster minion it's the same except it's only 1 turret shot. Keep that in mind and don't try getting CS if you know that the opponent will punish you for it. If you were playing a champ like Riven or Irelia you could actually go in for trades since they do considerable amounts of damage and have a lot more all-in potential than ranged champs but a champ like malph cannot hope to achieve the same success.
My final recommendation to you is to play Maokai. Not only is he tanky but he is also decent at trading due to his W rooting, doing percentage health damage and his Q doing a mini knock-up. It is also easy to gank a Maokai lane due to the same reasons and mid-game you can even 1v1 the enemy adc then turn to a complete tank in late-game.
Yup, I know it's two turret shots for a melee minion and one for the caster. My only problem is that even if one turret shot, the caster minion still has enough health left that I can't just auto attack him with most of my champions (Gangplank, Garen, Malpihte). At least with Malphite, his W's mana cost is small. =)EneT wrote:
No Problem, glad to help you
If your lane opponent is playing someone ranged and you're playing someone like Malph, the best thing to do is to let them push and farm under your tower. That means you're going to have to learn how to farm under tower. With Malph, it takes him 1-2 auto attacks + 2 turret shots to kill a melee minion since he lacks AD and for a caster minion it's the same except it's only 1 turret shot. Keep that in mind and don't try getting CS if you know that the opponent will punish you for it. If you were playing a champ like Riven or Irelia you could actually go in for trades since they do considerable amounts of damage and have a lot more all-in potential than ranged champs but a champ like malph cannot hope to achieve the same success.
My final recommendation to you is to play Maokai. Not only is he tanky but he is also decent at trading due to his W rooting, doing percentage health damage and his Q doing a mini knock-up. It is also easy to gank a Maokai lane due to the same reasons and mid-game you can even 1v1 the enemy adc then turn to a complete tank in late-game.
He's been my jungler for the better part of two seasons now (Seasons 3 and 4 and when I'm forced into jungle this season) so it's strange to all of a sudden hear he's a top laner (same when I heard Wukong and Malphite were a junglers after using them in the top lane... people need to make up their bloody minds with my laners...). So I might need to experiment with Maokai if top lane's something that's going to happen with me. xD
That's why you need to Auto attack before the turret hits the minion and then auto attack again after the turret hits it. This applies for all laners that can't one hit minions after turret hits.Justykanna wrote:
Yup, I know it's two turret shots for a melee minion and one for the caster. My only problem is that even if one turret shot, the caster minion still has enough health left that I can't just auto attack him with most of my champions (Gangplank, Garen, Malpihte). At least with Malphite, his W's mana cost is small. =)
He's been my jungler for the better part of two seasons now (Seasons 3 and 4 and when I'm forced into jungle this season) so it's strange to all of a sudden hear he's a top laner (same when I heard Wukong and Malphite were a junglers after using them in the top lane... people need to make up their bloody minds with my laners...). So I might need to experiment with Maokai if top lane's something that's going to happen with me. xD
The main reason for Maokai converting into a top laner is the change to his ult last season. His Ult follows him instead of staying in one place and this allowed him to be a complete tank.
Oh, don't get me wrong, I loved the R change to for Maokai. But he's still more comfortable in the jungle for me than top lane because that's where I've used him for so long.EneT wrote:
That's why you need to Auto attack before the turret hits the minion and then auto attack again after the turret hits it. This applies for all laners that can't one hit minions after turret hits.
The main reason for Maokai converting into a top laner is the change to his ult last season. His Ult follows him instead of staying in one place and this allowed him to be a complete tank.
Is there a way for someone to get into the same game with you (basically stalk you with second-precision) based on your username only? I mean, there are sites that tell you when you're already in-game, but not one for literally pressing the button at the same time as your stalkee. The guy who did it must be from this forum, as he knows about my vacation in France, knows I'm from Serbia and has some weird fetish regarding my British accent.
He knows too much to be a random, and he isn't on my friends list.
He knows too much to be a random, and he isn't on my friends list.
Unless you're in Master or Challenger then no. Other than that you must have a major stalker that found a loophole to the system.Aurani wrote:
Is there a way for someone to get into the same game with you (basically stalk you with second-precision) based on your username only? I mean, there are sites that tell you when you're already in-game, but not one for literally pressing the button at the same time as your stalkee. The guy who did it must be from this forum, as he knows about my vacation in France, knows I'm from Serbia and has some weird fetish regarding my British accent.
He knows too much to be a random, and he isn't on my friends list.