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FictionJunction - Toki no Mukou, Maboroshi no Sora (TV Size)

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Armin
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Armin
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on domenica 30 maggio 2010 at 19.49.12

Artist: FictionJunction
Title: Toki no Mukou, Maboroshi no Sora (TV Size)
Source: Ookami Kakushi
Tags: xxheroxx miccoliasms miccoli taiko ignorethis Crazy Jay Crazy_Jay Lokamp Kuroneko sHerald Kuro Kuroneko-sHerald
BPM: 156
Filesize: 15871kb
Play Time: 01:24
Difficulties Available:
  1. ignore's Hard (4,43 stars, 158 notes)
  2. Kuro Easy (1,96 stars, 79 notes)
  3. Lokamp's Taiko (5 stars, 466 notes)
  4. miccoli's Insane (5 stars, 263 notes)
  5. Normal (2,96 stars, 103 notes)
  6. xxheroxx's Hard (4,95 stars, 218 notes)
Download: FictionJunction - Toki no Mukou, Maboroshi no Sora (TV Size)
Download: FictionJunction - Toki no Mukou, Maboroshi no Sora (TV Size) (no video)
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Another awesome diff can be downloaded here: forum/download.php?id=29789
made by Crazy_Jay.
Last edited by Armin , edited 66 times in total.
Diasios
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Diasios
Download: xxheroxx's Hard.rar

desu
miccoliasms
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miccoliasms
Please make it to an arbitrary diffi name :D

Download: miccoli's.zip
miccoliasms
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miccoliasms
change plz XD

Download: FictionJunction - Toki no Mukou, Maboroshi no Sora (TV Size) (Armin) [miccoli's Insane].osu
ignorethis
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ignorethis
!ignore this

Download: FictionJunction - Toki no Mukou, Maboroshi no Sora (TV Size) (Armin) [!ignore this].osu
Garven
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Garven
[Normal]
The soft-hitclap2 sticks out really bad when used on this map. Consider lowering the gain (volume) a little.

[ignore's Hard]
The hit sounds are way too quiet. You almost can't really hear the work you put into the hit sounds when it's that soft. =
00:26:661 [1] This slider doesn't really fit with what's going on in the music. The hit on the repeat-part of the slider it what feels odd. Maybe just do two regular hits on the same spot to preserve spacing?
00:37:430 [4, 5] Spacing. Maybe aim the end of [4] towards [5] to make an upside-down V?

[Hard]
Not done, but here's one thing I noticed beyond the obvious clash after the break:
00:43:392 [12] This hit doesn't fit the music.

[xxheroxx's Hard]
00:26:084 Is it possible to change to a different combo color for this combo? At that point in the movie, the dark brown was really hidden and I didn't even see the approach circle before it was too late.
00:52:430 Add soft finishes on all three hits at a lowered volume.

[miccoli's Insane]
00:43:199 The sudden slider speedup here didn't make sense at all. It would feel better starting at 00:44:738.
01:08:969 No new combo.
01:18:199 ^

It's looking good! Star~
Kuroneko-sHerald
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Kuroneko-sHerald
Diff + star ;)
Download: FictionJunction - Toki no Mukou, Maboroshi no Sora (TV Size) (Armin) [Kuro Easy].osu
Crazy Jay
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Crazy Jay
lol

Download: FictionJunction - Toki no Mukou, Maboroshi no Sora (TV Size) (Armin) [Crazy Jay's Hard].osu
Lunah_old
Lunah_old
starrr*
cesc
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cesc
Starred **
Lokamp
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Lokamp
Freshly compiled with love.
Sorry keep you waiting :S

Download: FictionJunction - Toki no Mukou, Maboroshi no Sora (TV Size) (Armin) [Taiko].osu

Download: FictionJunction - Toki no Mukou, Maboroshi no Sora (TV Size) (Armin) [Taiko].osu
Last edited by Lokamp , edited 1 time in total.
Card N'FoRcE
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Card N'FoRcE
- Kuro Easy:
  • .Opinions:
    Niente KIAI?
- Normal:
  • .Opinions:
    Niente da segnalare.
- ignore's Hard:
  • .Opinions:
    Plays better wit Circle Size at Normal, imho.
    00:37:430 (4,5) - dunno why, but felt a bit unintuitive to me.]
- Crazy Jay's Hard:
  • .Opinions:
    I really don't like all those sudden gianormous jumps in such a regularly spaced map :S
    .Suggestions:
    .Errors/Mistakes:
- xxheroxx's Hard:
  • .Opinions:
    Niente da segnalare
- miccoli's Insane:
  • .Opinions:
    Nothing to say.
Good job, guys.
Kuroneko-sHerald
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Kuroneko-sHerald
Scusa, ma il video che fine ha fatto? D:
Armin
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Armin

Kuroneko-sHerald wrote:

Scusa, ma il video che fine ha fatto? D:
E' presente. o_o
Cioè a me dice di si D:
Kuroneko-sHerald
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Kuroneko-sHerald

Armin wrote:

Kuroneko-sHerald wrote:

Scusa, ma il video che fine ha fatto? D:
E' presente. o_o
Cioè a me dice di si D:
Stamattina mi diceva che non c'era o_o
Ora invece c'è :s
Boh

EDIT: Diff fixed

Download: FictionJunction - Toki no Mukou, Maboroshi no Sora (TV Size) (Armin) [Kuro Easy].osu
aRiskOfRain
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aRiskOfRain
Normal;
01:04:738 (3) - Finish?

01:18:584 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20,21,22,23,24,25,
26,27,28,29,30,31,32,33,34,35,36,37,38,39,40,41,42,43,44,45,46,47,48,49,50,51,52,53,54,55,56,57,58,59,60,61,62,63,64,65) - I lol'd.
Shulin
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Shulin
Kuro Easy:

-- Use custom color.
-- Minus 1 OA?
-- Minus 1 Drain.

00:38:584 (2) - Start of the slider sounds bad.
00:41:661 (6) - New combo.

Normal:

-- Use custom colors, default looks so out of place with BG and video.
-- Remove countdown.

00:22:238 (3) - Move from under the slider, it's deceptive, I expected it one tick later.
00:32:430 (2) - Too loud.
00:38:584 (2) - ^ Whistle, normal, soft finish doesn't blend well together imo.

Good, hitsounds were nice.

ignore's Hard:

-- Make combo colors the same.
-- Make the circles one tick smaller imo.
-- + 1 OA (too similar to normal atm)
-- + 1 drain (too similar to normal again)
-- Remove countdown.

Good, circle size was a bit weird.

Crazy Jay's Hard

-- Make the combo colors the same please. (I like miccoli's and xxheroxx's)
-- Remove countdown.
-- Video offset is different to the others. (It's -600)

00:53:969 (1,2,3,4,5) - Claps sound bad, use whistle instead. (Or alternate, but don't have all clap imo)
00:55:123 (8,9,10) - ^
00:57:046 (1) - Switch to normal hitsounds imo.
01:17:046 (5) - End on white tick.
01:24:546 (x) - Note?

In general I don't think soft clap suited this song very well.

xxheroxx's Hard:

-- Remove audio lead in?

Very nice.

miccoli's Insane:

-- Remove countdown.
-- Video offset is different to the others. (This one is 0)

00:45:315 (8,9,10,11,12) - Didn't like this zig zag stream, I don't think it's necessary.
00:49:930 (2,3,4,5,6) - ^

Good.

Lokamp's Taiko:

-- Remove audio lead in.
-- Don't get a video with this one.
-- End the kiai with an inheriting section.

Good overall, make sure to unify your mapset with same colors, video offsets, etc.
~ Star.
Rokodo
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Rokodo
Lokamp's Taiko

00:07:046 - Move start of slider to 00:07:238
01:09:065 - Remove finish effect.
01:15:507 - Remove finish effect.
01:17:046 - Remove finish effect.
01:24:734 - Remove finish effect.
Rokodo
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Rokodo
Also, resized bg to 800 x 600:



...and made a taiko bg:

Cyril Scarlet
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;)
Garven
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Garven
Well, since there are there more difficulties since I last checked in...

[General]
Pick your combo colors and apply them to all the difficulties as Shulin suggested.

[Kuro Easy]
00:20:123 (1) - This normal hit sticks out a lot considering there aren't any others to follow it up.
During the kiai, using finishes to start each measure feels a little excessive. If you really want those in there, I'd take out every other one so at least it will begin each phrase.

[Crazy Jay's Insane]
During the .5 bpm section, you will lose about 40% of your health if you get all 300's. Either lower hp drain or make new combos much more frequent.
00:50:892 (1,2,1,2) - These jumps felt rather extreme.
01:13:199 (3,4) - These ones too, kind of.

[Lokamp's Taiko]
This is way beyond my Taiko skills. ._.
00:28:777 (41,42,43,44,45,46,47,48,49) - This just sounds weird.
01:09:065 (67,69) - The looks fine from a difficulty view, but it just doesn't sound very good. I'd make 68 and 70 into whistles (kats?)
Crazy Jay
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Crazy Jay
fixed hitsound & the finish spin
please upload again

Download: FictionJunction - Toki no Mukou, Maboroshi no Sora (TV Size) (Armin) [Crazy Jay's Insane].osu
Eirene
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Eirene
well, I can't say a lot of things :)

custom colours for all the difficulties ?

[Kuro Easy] :
00:10:892 (4,5,6,1) - ugly spacing <3

[xxheroxx's Hard] :
00:07:429 (4) - remove the clap ?

[Crazy Jay's Insane] :
00:07:430 (7) - maybe remove the clap, because it masks the drum of the song (IMO you should really do it *.*)

[miccoli's Insane] :
nothing to say ...
oh ! wait ! there are combos that are pretty long *.* maybe split them
oh no ! forget that ...

I like these diffs STAR
( anyway, FictionJunction => autostar *.* )
Mok
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Mok
one more star<3
Mafiamaster
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Mafiamaster
[Easy]
Delete unused timing section @ 01:24:834

[ignore]
01:24:834 (1) - How about extending this to 01:28:488 like [Crazy Jay] and [miccoli]
[Crazy Jay]
01:04:738 (7) - New combo.
01:17:046 (5) - Extend to the white tick.

[miccoli]
01:24:834 (1) - Shouldn't the timing section here be a soft sample set?

Oh yeah. You can't have 7 difficulties. So you're going to have to scrap one.
MMzz
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MMzz
Looked over Taiko, looks fine to me.
Star
arien666
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arien666
Star for this nice song XD

inb4... I worried about 3 Insane diffs...
But, whatever :3
I bet you'll do it XD
DJPop
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~Kuro Easy~
Fine.

~Normal~
00:18:392 (1) - start on white tick
00:33:969 (6) - remove hitfinish
00:38:584 (2) - remove hitfinish at last note
00:41:661 (6) - remove hitfinish

~ignore's Hard~
Fine.

~xxheroxx's Hard~
Lower the volume to 60 or 70.
00:35:122 (6) - move up 1 grid (Lv2)
00:45:314 (2) - move left 1 grid (Lv3)
00:46:083 (6) - move right 1 grid (Lv3)
01:03:583 (3) - move down 1 grid (Lv1)
01:05:122 (3) - move up 1 grid (Lv1)
01:06:275 (1) - remove hitfinish

~Crazy Jay's Insane~
00:44:930 (2) - move up 1 grid (Lv3)
00:47:238 (11,12,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - move down & right 1 grid (Lv3)

~miccoli's Insane~
00:08:007 (1) - move down 1 grid (Lv3)
00:08:199 (2) - move up & right 1 grid (Lv3)
00:10:892 (9) - new combo
00:12:430 (1) - remove new combo
00:13:969 (11) - new combo
00:15:507 (1) - remove new combo
00:17:046 (7) - new combo
00:29:546 (8) - ^
00:31:661 (1) - remove new combo
00:35:507 (8) - new combo
00:37:623 (1) - remove new combo
00:38:584 (4) - new combo
00:41:661 (10) - ^
00:43:199 (1) - remove new combo
00:44:738 (5) - new combo
00:52:430 (8) - ^
00:53:584 (1) - remove new combo
00:53:584 (1) - add hitfinish at last note
00:55:507 (9) - new combo
00:55:507 (7) - add hitfinish at start
01:18:584 (1) - ^


+Star
Kami_Kaze_old
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Armin
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Backup.

Download: FictionJunction - Toki no Mukou, Maboroshi no Sora (TV Size) (Armin) [Crazy Jay's Insane].osu
Beuchi
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Beuchi
Hi hi!! :)

Here are some suggestions for your map, you don't have to change them if you don't agree with me :P
Let's go!!

~All Diffs~
- Delete the .osb file and full submit next time you update~
- Maybe add Crazy Jay to Tags? I know the diff isn't in the map for rankability reasons, but I guess you're going to leave the diff as an attachment to the OP? If you're going to do it, maybe it would be nice to have Crazy Jay as Tag too xP

~Kuro Easy~
- Maybe Overall Difficulty -1?

00:13:007 (4) - The repeat sounds really weird :/ Delete it?
00:16:084 (8) - ^

~Normal~
- Maybe Overall Difficulty -1?

~ignore's Hard~
00:37:430 (4,5) - This minijump is so unexpected x_x

~xxheroxx's Hard~
- Circle size +1 please? The difference between ignore's diff and this one is too high xwx;

00:32:622 (1,2) - This just sounds weird... xD

~Crazy Jay's Insane~
I don't see any problems here xD

~miccoli's Insane~
No problems here~

~Lokamp's Taiko~
I don't see any problems here either, but lol @final stream xwx;

Nice map! It was fun to play ^w^ *star*
p.d: I loved the background D:
Kuroneko-sHerald
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Kuroneko-sHerald

Beuchi-chan wrote:

Hi hi!! :)

~Kuro Easy~
- Maybe Overall Difficulty -1? I'll leave the decision to Armin.

00:13:007 (4) - The repeat sounds really weird :/ Delete it? Sorry, I like it :/
00:16:084 (8) - ^ ^
Lybydose
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Lybydose
Sorry for taking so long

The .osb has this line in it: 

Sample,48584,0,"normal-hitwhistle2",100

Is this intended to play on every difficulty? If not, move it to whichever difficulty you were wanting it in and delete the .osb. Also, it needs to say "normal-hitwhistle2.wav"

'kakushi' in the source should probably be capitalized.

miccoli's insane:

00:43:199 - why does it switch back to normal speed here? It would fit better if 00:43:199 (1) was slow as well (and maybe00:43:969 (3) too) but you don't have to change it.

ignore's hard:

00:55:699 (6,7) - the low OD makes this spacing extremely confusing, even though it's similar to the previous sliders.

kuro easy:

00:13:007 (4) - the hitsounds on this slider and sliderticks sound really strange. Also, add a repeat?
00:16:084 (8) - ^

Other diffs:

all good
Kuroneko-sHerald
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Kuroneko-sHerald

Lybydose wrote:

kuro easy:

00:13:007 (4) - the hitsounds on this slider and sliderticks sound really strange. Also, add a repeat? I'm the only which like it? :o
Anyway, I think that add a repeat would sounds strange.
00:16:084 (8) - ^ ^
tieff
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tieff
Bubbled.

Great work, guys.
Lybydose
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ranked
Andrea
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Andrea
*removes another map from his queue*

orz... Grats anyway.

EDIT: Lyby don't forget to set genre and language when you rank a map :P
Colin Hou
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ieggpain ._.
NatsumeRin
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great job Armin and lokamp= =
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