I played a few choice ar8 maps everysay then ar8 became easier.
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Play every AR to be good at every AR.
I just wish I could read ~9.3
An AR feeling 'slow' isn't such a bad thing. You could probably play most maps without random difficulty spikes taking you by surprise. The only thing you'll need to practice is not hitting the keys too early.
I just wish I could read ~9.3
An AR feeling 'slow' isn't such a bad thing. You could probably play most maps without random difficulty spikes taking you by surprise. The only thing you'll need to practice is not hitting the keys too early.
Force yourself to play AR7-8 every session for a certain period of time to keep your memorization skills on track. Other than that stick to AR10 since it yields more bang for the buck in the long run.
Lower ARs are really more about your ability to memorize what to do/in which order/and which timing as it is with sight-reading. As you proceed increasing AR the amount of clutter on the screen drastically decreases and it is more about the immediately next circle which appears you are having to care about.
Of course, really good/experienced players sight read AR10.3 but this is nothing we have yet to worry about here. I just don't think you can learn a specific AR and forget it. The more one gets accustomed to AR in general and increases one's acc the better the same player can quickly get accustomed to other ARs within "doable" range. So just keep playing AR10 for the most part but don't neglect much lower approach rates to keep your memorization and sight read challenged on a regular basis.
Hopefully this was helpful.
Lower ARs are really more about your ability to memorize what to do/in which order/and which timing as it is with sight-reading. As you proceed increasing AR the amount of clutter on the screen drastically decreases and it is more about the immediately next circle which appears you are having to care about.
Of course, really good/experienced players sight read AR10.3 but this is nothing we have yet to worry about here. I just don't think you can learn a specific AR and forget it. The more one gets accustomed to AR in general and increases one's acc the better the same player can quickly get accustomed to other ARs within "doable" range. So just keep playing AR10 for the most part but don't neglect much lower approach rates to keep your memorization and sight read challenged on a regular basis.
Hopefully this was helpful.
I'm so saving this pictureZenithPhantasm wrote:
AR9
Start slow again. Play low bpm ar9 then increase get stronger.
ZenithPhantasm
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so i should basically play scarlet rose xDZenithPhantasm wrote:
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/373811&m=0 Play this map
Good luck
ZenithPhantasm
Play lower AR, 8 or less. Ignore the fact that you can't handle it, just do your best and do a few retries. BPM also matters, if that wasn't obvious enough... Good luck not getting bored.
play more.
Scarlet Rose would be 10x easier with an AR of 9.5-10
Scarlet Rose would be 10x easier with an AR of 9.5-10
Didn't we establish not to play ar8 and just play ar9?Purple wrote:
Play lower AR, 8 or less. Ignore the fact that you can't handle it, just do your best and do a few retries. BPM also matters, if that wasn't obvious enough... Good luck not getting bored.
Playing 300+bpm alternate maps isn't going to help much either. I'd recommend some maps to play, but there are so many aspect of reading that you should just go around playing ar9 in general.
Still play ar8 though.
ZenithPhantasm
Kheldragar wrote:
Still play ar8 though.
There is no reason to do this unless you just want to play ar8 maps because you enjoy them or something.Barusamikosu wrote:
Kheldragar wrote:
Still play ar8 though.
Practice your reading. It can't hurt anyway, unlike mashing AR>10 all day.B1rd wrote:
There is no reason to do this unless you just want to play ar8 maps because you enjoy them or something.
It will improve his reading and ability to deal with higher note density. OP needs to play AR9, of course, but OP also needs to cure the gotta-go-fast sickness that made him forget AR9 to start with.B1rd wrote:
There is no reason to do this unless you just want to play ar8 maps because you enjoy them or something.
Besides that, there are so many fun AR8 maps to help with vital skills like aiming, streaming and reading that anybody that can't read AR8 is really missing out.
Not all of them are easily playable with DT/HR
ar8 is actually better to train your aim because you have more time to react and see what is going on
here is a ar8 map which plays like a ar9
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/54618
here is a ar8 map which plays like a ar9
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/54618
Or you could just play high density AR9. I have to agree with Narrill on this, the most effective way to get good at something is to play it specifically.Barusamikosu wrote:
It will improve his reading and ability to deal with higher note density. OP needs to play AR9, of course, but OP also needs to cure the gotta-go-fast sickness that made him forget AR9 to start with.
For getting better at AR9, I agree 100%. Play more AR9. The AR8 suggestion is mostly for expanding his abilities beyond that.B1rd wrote:
Or you could just play high density AR9. I have to agree with Narrill on this, the most effective way to get good at something is to play it specifically.
I personally find AR8 a lot easier to aim and can play crazy jump maps that I probably wouldn't be able to do at 9/10.[MY] yummy90 XP wrote:
ar8 is actually better to train your aim because you have more time to react and see what is going on
Topic Starter
idk if i can be bothered with ar8 if it wont reap any significant rewards for the time put into learning it, its not like it serves much purpose anyway. Most old maps i like i edit to ar9 to play for fun
OP asked for a different advice, do you want me to regurgitate the same crap everyone says?B1rd wrote:
Didn't we establish not to play ar8 and just play ar9?Purple wrote:
Play lower AR, 8 or less. Ignore the fact that you can't handle it, just do your best and do a few retries. BPM also matters, if that wasn't obvious enough... Good luck not getting bored.
Playing 300+bpm alternate maps isn't going to help much either. I'd recommend some maps to play, but there are so many aspect of reading that you should just go around playing ar9 in general.
And holy hell, I shouldn't have to explain how practicing AR8 improves AR9 reading, seems incredibly obvious to me. If you play and get used to 10 objects on screen you will do better when pit against 5 objects on screen. Go even lower until you can easily read AR8 and you'll have 100% fail-proof AR9 reading. I'm pretty sure that if you stick to AR9 alone you wont have that sense of security, unless you plan to play 245+ bpm.
Agree 100%Purple wrote:
OP asked for a different advice, do you want me to regurgitate the same crap everyone says?
And holy hell, I shouldn't have to explain how practicing AR8 improves AR9 reading, seems incredibly obvious to me. If you play and get used to 10 objects on screen you will do better when pit against 5 objects on screen. Go even lower until you can easily read AR8 and you'll have 100% fail-proof AR9 reading. I'm pretty sure that if you stick to AR9 alone you wont have that sense of security, unless you plan to play 245+ bpm.
m-maybe if i be condescending, i'll show my point!Purple wrote:
And holy hell, I shouldn't have to explain how practicing AR8 improves AR9 reading, seems incredibly obvious to me.
anyways,
play AR8 = learn AR8
play AR9 = learn AR9
Playing Counter Strike does not help you get better at Quake
Almost 3k pp and i still can't read ar9.
Please send help.
Please send help.
3.1k PP and still can't read it.pandaBee wrote:
Almost 3k pp and i still can't read ar9.
You should still play ar8; if ar9 is actually too slowfor you because you hurr spam ar10 too much, just also take the fucking time to learn ar8 too.
Preach it.Kheldragar wrote:
You should still play ar8; if ar9 is actually too slowfor you because you hurr spam ar10 too much, just also take the fucking time to learn ar8 too.
Liars don't get presents from Santa.Barusamikosu wrote:
3.1k PP and still can't read it.
It simply takes time. I went through that as well. You learn an AR. And you forget another. As long as you continue playing both ar's this will get better. But it takes time.
AR 8 - OD 10
Actually playing CS does not make you better at Quake, but playing AR8 does make you better at 9.
Ironic huh?
Actually playing CS does not make you better at Quake, but playing AR8 does make you better at 9.
Ironic huh?
i have this problem too... i just continue to play hr and dt ar 10.3.. i'm getting better at that and 0 fks given :') if i want a fc on an ar 9 song i will just fc it with hr in the future... just my opinion
Maybe practicing CS at 1.1x speed will make you better at regular CSFriendan wrote:
m-maybe if i be condescending, i'll show my point!Purple wrote:
And holy hell, I shouldn't have to explain how practicing AR8 improves AR9 reading, seems incredibly obvious to me.
anyways,
play AR8 = learn AR8
play AR9 = learn AR9
Playing Counter Strike does not help you get better at Quake
I was just going to let you guys destroy each others since there are already a bunch of people defending the whole "playing ar8 to learn ar9 is bullshit" thing, but this is just retardedPurple wrote:
Maybe practicing CS at 1.1x speed will make you better at regular CS
that's not even a valid comparison, for fuck's sake
I'm saying that if you find AR9 too slow, then you should also give ar8 a try and learn it as well. If Ar9 is too fast for you to read, then no, ar8 will not help.
I'm saying his comparison is retarded and his point is wrong, not that you said playing ar8 is good for learning ar9.Kheldragar wrote:
I'm saying that if you find AR9 too slow, then you should also give ar8 a try and learn it as well. If Ar9 is too fast for you to read, then no, ar8 will not help.
ahh quake, i used to be good at it when i was like 14, now in my 20's, it feels like im being tossed into a barrel full of rabid ferrets full of firecrackers. Too damn old now.Friendan wrote:
m-maybe if i be condescending, i'll show my point!Purple wrote:
And holy hell, I shouldn't have to explain how practicing AR8 improves AR9 reading, seems incredibly obvious to me.
anyways,
play AR8 = learn AR8
play AR9 = learn AR9
Playing Counter Strike does not help you get better at Quake
I don't think it's the best, for playing ar9, but I think that being able to read ar8 is an important skill and will assist with ar9.bigfeh wrote:
I'm saying his comparison is retarded and his point is wrong, not that you said playing ar8 is good for learning ar9.Kheldragar wrote:
I'm saying that if you find AR9 too slow, then you should also give ar8 a try and learn it as well. If Ar9 is too fast for you to read, then no, ar8 will not help.
I know that feel op.
Really no way to fix this problem other than for you to temporarily stop playing above AR9 and grind out lower AR songs (not just AR9, but play 7-9, even lower if you have to time for it).
It's going to be feel slow and even boring, but don't give up and keep playing!
You will really learn a lot about reading and pacing from playing low AR's, which you can apply to any map later on.
On another note, I ended up grinding out low ARs for 6 months before I got decent at AR9 and below compared to people around my rank at the time.
Don't expect easy, quick fixes.
Really no way to fix this problem other than for you to temporarily stop playing above AR9 and grind out lower AR songs (not just AR9, but play 7-9, even lower if you have to time for it).
It's going to be feel slow and even boring, but don't give up and keep playing!
You will really learn a lot about reading and pacing from playing low AR's, which you can apply to any map later on.
On another note, I ended up grinding out low ARs for 6 months before I got decent at AR9 and below compared to people around my rank at the time.
Don't expect easy, quick fixes.