[osu!mania] Show key amount in o!m difficulties, new icons

[Dellirium]

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[Dellirium] 2012-12-17T02:37:19+00:00

I think the topic is pretty self-introducive. I believe players should know key amount when they download a beatmap because. For example, if you play DDR you can't really play o2jam maps because of huge key amount and if you play Beatmania you can find 4K too boring (well, at least for me). So key amount should be displayed with difficulty as well.

Also with RBRat3's help there are many delicious high-dpi icons:

Icons can be scaled if needed:

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Archangel Tirael

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Archangel Tirael 2012-12-17T04:22:43+00:00

Judging by the way you have drawn, the number of keys = difficulty that is not so. Plate with the number of keys should be drawn separately. Ie, easy map for 8k should be green and hard to 4k-red.

[Dellirium]

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[Dellirium] 2012-12-17T10:52:13+00:00

Archangel Tirael wrote:
the number of keys = difficulty that is not so.

look closer:

Stefan

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Stefan 2012-12-17T11:57:39+00:00

The upper ones (thin) are much cleaner and looking better.

Archangel Tirael

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Archangel Tirael 2012-12-17T19:53:25+00:00

[Dellirium] wrote:
Archangel Tirael wrote:
the number of keys = difficulty that is not so.
look closer:

Oh, did not see that. Then all the good. Support

RBRat3

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RBRat3 2013-02-06T23:44:35+00:00

Random google search a month later...

[Dellirium] wrote:
/me summons RBRat3 in this topic :>

[Dellirium] wrote:
Disclaimer: I'm not a designer and can't draw pixel-art icons properly, so this is only an example.

I dont know what gave you the idea that I would have been any better XD

What you already have gets the point across, as long as none of the modes share any commonalities where you can dissociate one from another thats all that matters... Theres only so much you can do with 16px?

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lolcubes 2013-02-07T00:04:25+00:00

[Dellirium] wrote:
Archangel Tirael wrote:
the number of keys = difficulty that is not so.
look closer:

I don't wanna be a spoilsport, but is it possible to make them more distinguishable?
I am a colorblind person and I can't tell a difference between these two until I zoom in and compare in details. ._.

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RBRat3 2013-02-07T00:49:13+00:00

lolcubes wrote:
I don't wanna be a spoilsport, but is it possible to make them more distinguishable?
I am a colorblind person and I can't tell a difference between these two until I zoom in and compare in details. ._.

Here blind cool man, Whip out your magnifying glass and try this out XD

theowest

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theowest 2013-02-07T01:23:13+00:00

There's very little red in the second image to tell them apart. I can hardly tell them apart.

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RBRat3 2013-02-07T01:28:14+00:00

theowest wrote:
There's very little red in the second image to tell them apart. I can hardly tell them apart.

Well in his defense the default insane star is hardly in the red colorspace, Its orange...

This is red

I assume its toned down not to hurt your eyes.

theowest

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theowest 2013-02-07T01:37:01+00:00

Defence? I'm on his side on this.

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Saten 2013-02-07T01:49:07+00:00

RBRat3 wrote:
theowest wrote:
There's very little red in the second image to tell them apart. I can hardly tell them apart.
Well in his defense the default insane star is hardly in the red colorspace, Its orange...

This is red I assume its toned down not to hurt your eyes.

So pretty

[Dellirium]

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[Dellirium] 2013-02-07T01:56:24+00:00

lolcubes wrote:
I don't wanna be a spoilsport, but is it possible to make them more distinguishable?
I am a colorblind person and I can't tell a difference between these two until I zoom in and compare in details. ._.

Oh. I made them exactly as other icons (with colorpicker), but if there is a problem I can change it of course.

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RBRat3 2013-02-07T02:25:17+00:00

Dont think these are any better...

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[Dellirium]

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[Dellirium] 2013-02-07T02:40:32+00:00

Hmm, these icons has too much difference between the others imo.

jemhuntr

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jemhuntr 2013-02-07T06:35:47+00:00

it says "Hiii~"

i think this is enough. simple, like the other icons.

[Dellirium]

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[Dellirium] 2013-02-07T11:30:01+00:00

Sort of, but these icons don't show amount of keys and difficulty, that's what I'd like to see.

Flanster

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Flanster 2013-02-07T11:49:20+00:00

;V

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Derekku 2013-02-07T12:46:40+00:00

RBRat3 wrote:
Dont think these are any better...

I really like these!

Lolicore Flandre wrote:

;V

but these are fine too; just simple and straightforward I guess :v

peppy

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peppy 2013-02-07T13:24:50+00:00

Please make sure to make all graphics at 2x their display size, as all new elements I add to the osu! website must support up to 2x dpi.

Flanster

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Flanster 2013-02-07T14:56:54+00:00

Which ones will be used :v?

RBRat3

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RBRat3 2013-02-07T15:08:44+00:00

Lolicore Flandre wrote:
Which ones will be used :v?

ones that are 2x the rez

peppy wrote:
Please make sure to make all graphics at 2x their display size, as all new elements I add to the osu! website must support up to 2x dpi.

Pulled one of the tiny icons and it came out 16px, I take it that these would be the first difficulty icon sets at 32px?

Flanster

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Flanster 2013-02-07T15:20:14+00:00

http://www.mediafire.com/?b8vbvfbq0ptyp3e

:v if 32x32 they look like shit

RBRat3

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RBRat3 2013-02-08T04:02:17+00:00

Now watch as I teleport into the choo choo...

[Dellirium]

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[Dellirium] 2013-02-08T09:06:56+00:00

RBRat3 wrote:
Now watch as I teleport into the choo choo...

I like your style. Now you should redraw the other icons :V

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Winshley

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Winshley 2013-02-09T09:14:20+00:00

Why not make it like "E4", "N5", "H6", "I7", etc. with the current icons? The number of keys alone should be enough instead of additional "K" letter.

[Dellirium]

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[Dellirium] 2013-02-09T09:33:51+00:00

RBRat3 wrote:

wow... I want these now!

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RBRat3 2013-02-09T09:51:21+00:00

Winshley wrote:
Why not make it like "E4", "N5", "H6", "I7", etc. with the current icons? The number of keys alone should be enough instead of additional "K" letter.

I could do that but the mania letters wont share the same type weight as it's counterparts, Two letter spaces is too big and I have to keep it symmetrically divisible by 2 otherwise I'll get halfsies where a single pixel will share 2 when scaled back to 16px making it hardly legible. (Would have stuck the other font with it if it would fit in the damn stars XD)

Doesnt matter to me, Up to peppy I guess.

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theowest

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theowest 2013-02-09T15:57:18+00:00

that is gloriously amazing.

deadbeat

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deadbeat 2013-02-09T16:07:09+00:00

personally, i think the 4k,5k,6k,7k and 8k are better. but those do look pretty good o.o

MillhioreF

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MillhioreF 2013-02-09T22:02:30+00:00

Now do ones for the CTB fruit icon and we're set!

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RBRat3 2013-02-09T22:04:16+00:00

MillhioreF wrote:
Now do ones for the CTB fruit icon and we're set!

XD do those even exist?

deadbeat

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deadbeat 2013-02-09T22:24:10+00:00

there are ctb only difficulties that are ranked ._.

MillhioreF

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MillhioreF 2013-02-09T22:34:09+00:00

RBRat3 wrote:
MillhioreF wrote:
Now do ones for the CTB fruit icon and we're set!
XD do those even exist?

https://osu.ppy.sh/p/beatmaplist&s=4&r=0?m=2

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Winshley 2013-02-10T16:09:13+00:00

RBRat3 wrote:
Winshley wrote:
Why not make it like "E4", "N5", "H6", "I7", etc. with the current icons? The number of keys alone should be enough instead of additional "K" letter.
I could do that but the mania letters wont share the same type weight as it's counterparts, Two letter spaces is too big and I have to keep it symmetrically divisible by 2 otherwise I'll get halfsies where a single pixel will share 2 when scaled back to 16px making it hardly legible. (Would have stuck the other font with it if it would fit in the damn stars XD)

Doesnt matter to me, Up to peppy I guess.

I suggested that because colors alone might be hard to distinguish between the difficulties alone, especially between Hard and Insane colors.

But hey, that still looks awesome

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RBRat3 2013-02-11T03:02:28+00:00

Winshley wrote:
I suggested that because colors alone might be hard to distinguish between the difficulties alone, especially between Hard and Insane colors.

But hey, that still looks awesome

It shouldn't be that hard when scaled back.

Ohh forgot, EAT MY APPLES

Winshley

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Winshley 2013-02-11T13:14:18+00:00

I can see the difference now. Thanks for enlighten me.

Well then, let's just assume I suggested that for color-blinded players.

[Dellirium]

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[Dellirium] 2013-02-12T23:23:24+00:00

RBRat3 wrote:
Ohh forgot, EAT MY APPLES

Delicious.

So... We have full high-dpi icons set... How long we have to wait to see them in beatmap listing?

RBRat3

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RBRat3 2013-02-14T02:57:14+00:00

Guess loli's got used, Completed?

MillhioreF

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MillhioreF 2013-02-27T05:44:54+00:00

osu!mania indeed has icons now, marking this added. Go ahead and make a new thread about using RBRat's shiny new icons if you wanna follow that up.

[Dellirium]

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[Dellirium] 2013-02-27T07:24:28+00:00

MillhioreF wrote:
osu!mania indeed has icons now, marking this added. Go ahead and make a new thread about using RBRat's shiny new icons if you wanna follow that up.

I can just rename the topic.

The main thing here was to display key amount in difficulties not just mania icons set.

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RBRat3 2013-02-27T07:26:17+00:00

[Dellirium] wrote:
MillhioreF wrote:
osu!mania indeed has icons now, marking this added. Go ahead and make a new thread about using RBRat's shiny new icons if you wanna follow that up.
I can just rename the topic.

The main thing here was to display key amount in difficulties not just mania icons set.

Really XD, My fault I told him that it was debatable and the point was that it had no icons.

Edit: Might as well post the whole swatch

[Dellirium]

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[Dellirium] 2013-02-27T08:12:23+00:00

Added!

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