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Topic Starter
Tari
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Thursday, January 08, 2015 at 1:47:03 AM

Artist: nano
Title: Silence
Tags: heartbeat nanoir kibbleru utaite powerless collab collaboration nico douga niconico MuryokuP 無力P
BPM: 114
Filesize: 7124kb
Play Time: 04:09
Difficulties Available:
  1. Advanced (2.79 stars, 474 notes)
  2. Hard (3.66 stars, 612 notes)
  3. Insane (4.66 stars, 757 notes)
  4. Normal (1.72 stars, 285 notes)
Download: nano - Silence
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Kibb x Tari

nano!
[ Eon Fox ]
Two things I noticed: Too high of a kbps on the MP3, and this really is lacking hitsounds.
Topic Starter
Tari
Work in progress !

I'll be adding hitsounds and changing mp3 later :D
Winnie
I believe in the legendary Tari
Oracle
gl on this awesome song~
i tested a good map!!!
20:11 *Tari is listening to [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/555116 nano - Silence]
20:11 Tari: :)
20:12 *Oracle is playing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/555116 nano - Silence [Insane]]
20:17 Oracle: and it's 4.7???
20:17 Tari: yeah
20:17 Tari: lol
20:17 Oracle: hmm
20:17 Oracle: i'm not sure
20:17 Oracle: what are you going for
20:17 Oracle: a 0108style map?
20:17 Tari: no?
20:17 Oracle: or bpmX2 style
20:17 Tari: just regular insane map
20:17 Oracle: like map in 228bpm
20:17 Oracle: okay so
20:17 Tari: LOL
20:17 Oracle: actually
20:17 Oracle: those notes in DS
20:17 Oracle: in low DS
20:18 Oracle: is even harder than jumps
20:18 Tari: rofl
20:18 Tari: the slow part?
20:18 Tari: it fits well.
20:18 Oracle: 00:53:893 (2,3,4,5,6,1) -
20:18 Oracle: i'm mainly talking about the playability part~
20:19 Tari: D:
20:19 Tari: sorry
20:19 Tari: i use more sliders now.
20:19 Tari: not many circle jumps.
20:19 Tari: so its quite easy imo
20:19 Tari: and I use double stacked circles.
20:19 Tari: only part I use so many circles
20:19 Tari: is before climax.
20:19 Tari: in the kiai.
20:19 Oracle: yeah but this kind of thing is 00:53:893 (2,3,4,5,6) - very hard to aim well compare to the rest parts
20:20 Oracle: you need to keep your cursor moving in constant speed
20:21 Tari: well
20:21 Tari: idk
20:21 Tari: D:
20:21 Oracle: this is the only part i felt questionable to myself~
20:21 Tari: how to map that any other way
20:21 Oracle: others are really fun and natural to play with
20:21 Tari: more intuive patterns?
20:22 Oracle: hmm....
20:22 Oracle: low-sv sliders in large spacing?
20:22 Oracle: i'm not really sure aswell lol
20:23 Oracle: also you're really good at high-sv mapping <3
20:23 Oracle: like...i suck at that
20:23 Oracle: 03:37:709 (1,2,3,4,5) - very tricky to me
20:24 Tari: oh yeah
20:24 Oracle: i was expecting 03:38:103 (3) - has the same rhythm like 03:37:709 (1,2) -
20:24 Tari: i thought it was easier to play
20:24 Tari: OH
20:24 Tari: yeah
20:24 Tari: omg
20:24 Tari: so fixed
20:24 Oracle: so that confused me xD
20:25 Tari: yeah I messed up there
20:25 Oracle: 03:50:472 (4,5) - the antijump here bothers me too
20:25 Tari: consistency error lol
20:25 Oracle: the surrounded patterns are all in huge DS
20:25 Tari: i thought that was okay.
20:25 Tari: cause of 02:17:840 (4,5) -
20:25 Tari: when you play through 02:17:840 (4,5) -
20:25 Tari: 03:50:472 (4,5) - is easy to read.
20:26 Oracle: i just can't FC this
20:26 Tari: ha sorry
20:26 Tari: my patterns are really consistent
20:26 Oracle: hmm okay
20:27 Tari: but yes
20:27 Tari: i will fix
20:27 Tari: 03:37:709 (1,2,3,4,5) -
20:27 Tari: LOL
20:27 Oracle: i guess that's mainly because the slider after it
20:27 Oracle: 03:50:866 (1) -
20:27 Oracle: a stop+rapid flow changing x.x
20:28 Tari: LOL
20:28 Tari: sorry D:
20:28 Oracle: it's okay xD
20:28 Oracle: just my own opinion
20:28 Tari: i was suppose to copy and paste 01:27:709 (1) -
20:28 Tari: but imo i wanted to keep symmetry
20:29 Oracle: then you sacrificed flow/playability for symmetry xD
20:29 Oracle: it's still okay tho, up to you!
20:29 Tari: oh
20:29 Tari: idk about that
20:29 Tari: i can't find other way to do that.
20:29 Tari: better keep symmetry there
20:29 Tari: too
20:29 Tari: because modders will mention it.
20:30 Oracle: 03:50:866 (1) - also you need to place it down a bit
20:30 Oracle: for symmetry
20:30 Oracle: try somehwere lilke 368,300 or something
20:30 Tari: and
20:30 Tari: symmetry is easy to play
20:30 Tari: so hmmm
20:30 Tari: its better for this fast song
20:30 Tari: to do some symmetry.
20:31 Oracle: 03:51:393 (1,2) - and then this should be on X-axis
20:31 Oracle: kinda nazi xD
20:32 Oracle: 04:08:235 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1) - awesome!
20:32 Tari: lol
20:32 Tari: u play that well
20:32 Tari: but yeah
20:32 Tari: thats intuitive pattern
20:33 Oracle: hmm i guess that would be all from my testplay
20:33 Oracle: hope i helped in some degree
20:34 Tari: thanks!
Kibbleru

Kocari wrote:

I believe in the legendary Tari
scanter
\o/ nice map & song!
Sonnyc
[Normal]
00:50:340 (1,2) - I would really appreciate if you can work with the slider blankets better.
02:01:919 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - No whistles unlike 01:11:393 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3)?
02:37:445 (4) - Missing whistle I guess?
02:39:814 (1) - a grid right
03:25:866 (4) - a grid left Minor stuffs, but I feel they were a little close with the previous object.

[Advanced]
01:06:393 (5,6) - These sliders are touching each other. Mind moving (6,7) down?
01:10:209 (2) - Spacing.
03:15:603 - I suggest removing the break here to be consistent with your mapset.
04:03:893 (8) - Are you sure with this Finish? It sounds a little redundant.

[Hard]
00:54:156 (1) - Imo NC isn't needed that much since the spacing is consistent. Little doubtful if that combo can even cause confusion.
01:44:682 (1) - ^
02:44:551 (2) - This object sounds way too loud.
02:57:840 (2) - Personally this rhythm feels a little awkward. I think this should end at 02:58:169 if you were following the vocals, but.. well nvm.
03:15:603 (4) - Other diffs doesn't have a note here. Anyways if you still want to place a note here, I recommend you to reduce the volume slightly.

[Insane]
00:48:761 (2) - I think this should be dragged 1/4 earlier. Anyways 00:48:630 feels a little empty.
02:17:840 (4,5,6,7,8,9,10,1) - I expect these to be symmetry notes.
02:50:735 (2) - I don't see a reason to break distance here.
03:55:077 (7) - Add a reverse? I feel 03:55:340 needs something.
Topic Starter
Tari
Fixed all except for that one suggestion at 02:57:840 (2) - , personally, I thought this fit really well and for Insane, didn't fix 00:48:761 (2) - , I feel current rhythm is fine.
kakifly
from PM ~

General

  1. i think slider tick rate 4 would fit the higher diffs better, try it out and see
Insane

  1. 00:36:393 - map this part? i feel the anti-jump would only be at 00:35:998 (2) - and pause a bit, and from 00:36:261 (3) - the music would continue again so if you mapped that note it would have a cool effect
  2. 00:36:919 (1) - remove NC? it doesnt follow your usual pattern
  3. 00:39:551 (1) - i think you should follow your usual NC pattern (1 nc every measure) so remove the nc from that note and add to 00:39:814 (3) -
  4. same reason as above^ remove nc from 00:43:761 (1) - , add to 00:44:024 (2) -
  5. 00:51:130 (3) - try making this the same as 00:52:182 (3) - , a 1/4 slider because theres a sound at 00:51:261 - and also for consistency lol
  6. 00:58:761 (1) - make this slider more even? http://puu.sh/dGQbb/575ba2e77c.jpg
  7. 01:01:919 (1) - remove NC for consistency
  8. 01:09:288 (1,2) - adding whistles on the head of these would be nice and follows the music
  9. 01:10:077 (1) - remove NC for consistency
  10. 01:29:288 (1) - ^
  11. 01:43:893 - add note? same concept as 00:36:393
  12. 01:52:445 (1) - imo this part where the drum is strong doesnt really need an NC
  13. 02:00:866 (1) - remove NC? because this part compared to parts like 02:01:919 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - isn't like a repetition of the same music so an NC doesn't really fit considering the phrase after it
  14. 02:06:130 (1,2) - i don't think these are exact copies of each other, so you should copy paste them for better symmetry xD
  15. 02:22:972 (1) - add clap to spinner?
  16. 02:32:972 (1) - remove nc, because the music here is repeating and back at 02:28:761 (5) - for that specific phrase you didn't NC, instead add NC at 02:33:498 (3) - and remove for 02:33:761 (1) - // same concept for 02:41:393 (1,2,3,1)
  17. 02:34:024 (3) 02:42:445 (3) - - i would avoid the head and tail overlapping
  18. 03:11:393 (1,2,3) - flow is weird here, i just rearranged these sliders into a nicer pattern and ctrl + g some of the sliders for a smoother flow http://puu.sh/dGRRF/9c5e092e62.jpg (the slider covered by the ball is 2)
  19. 03:12:709 (1) - i would suggest to remove nc here to follow your pattern unless you are specifically using 'vocal NC's' here, but it goes off your regular nc pattern if that makes sense Dx (then add NC to 03:13:498 (4) - )
  20. 03:14:288 (1,2,3,4,5) - lol please use the polygonal circle creation (ctrl + shift + d) to do this, the manually made star doesnt look so good orz ;w;
  21. also ^ 03:14:288 (1) - i would suggest to remove the nc to follow your pattern because theres nothing really strong or unique here that calls for NC
  22. 03:25:077 (1) - imo don't think these drums need a new nc
  23. 03:31:919 (5) - avoid overlap with 03:31:261 (3) - ? then you would have to move 03:30:209 (8) - as well because they are stacked
  24. 03:33:498 (1) - remove NC? because unlike the phrases after this, like i've mentioned before its not a repetition of the same sounds, so an NC here compared with 03:34:551 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - seems off
  25. 03:50:866 (1) - add whistle to body?
  26. 03:58:761 (5) - kind of nazi but maybe stack on head of 03:56:919 (5) - just so it looks a bit cleaner in the editor xD
  27. 04:05:077 (1) - doesnt seem like an NC is needed here imo :o
  28. 04:06:919 - same as 00:36:393
  29. 04:08:761 (5,7) - stack these, seems like you might of unstacked by accident
Hard


  • Kibbleru
  1. 00:48:103 (6,1) - this distance here is a bit confusing imo, it almost looks like a 1/2 when its 1/4, should move closer together
  2. 00:54:156 (1) - not sure why this would need an NC imo, since the circles follow the same drums that start at 00:54:024 -
  3. 01:02:051 (2,3) - what are the normal sampleset whistles following?
  4. 01:10:340 (1) - remove NC for consistency?
  5. 01:27:709 (1) - add hitsound to this note because you made it a single note NC, something should emphasize it
  6. 01:30:077 (6,1,2,3,4,5) - personally i would prefer if you followed the beat here rather than the vocals more so like you did at 01:28:235 (1,2,3,4,5) - & 01:32:445 (1,2,3,4) -
  7. 01:36:656 (1) - add whistle on repeat ?
  8. 01:44:024 (1,1,1,2,3) - same as 00:54:156 (1)
  9. 03:56:656 - imo this part should be mapped because its a strong instrumental

    Tari
  10. 02:22:972 (1) - add clap to spinner
  11. 02:52:182 (3,1,2,3,4) - polygonal circle creation please :<
  12. 03:50:866 (1) - add whistle to body?
Advanced

  1. won't mention NC's since you turned down most of my suggestions on them for insane ;w; sorry if my mod for insane was just a bunch of spam on NC's Dx
  2. 00:37:709 (1,2) - distance here isn't equal, it kinda looks like its 1/4 apart when its 1/2
  3. 00:49:024 (3) - i think you should start this on the blue tick at 00:49:156 - , imo it follows the music a bit better
  4. 01:17:709 (3) - okay i said i wouldnt mention NC's but did you forget to nc here ?;w;
  5. 01:34:551 (1) - imo you should map the drum at 01:35:077 - its much more domiant than what you're following atm
  6. 02:53:498 - add note here because theres a piano sound that you were following earlier at 02:52:445 (1,2,3,4) -
Normal

  1. i'm a bit unsure on the diff spread from Normal to Advanced, where Advanced has a lot of 1/4's it would be nice if you reduced some 1/4's in advanced
  2. nazi but 00:29:288 (1) - & 00:30:340 (3) - kind of overlap 00:28:761 (3) - which doesnt look so good
  3. 00:36:261 (2) - end this 1/4 earlier to follow music?
  4. 04:00:866 (3) - overlaps 03:59:288 (3) - and doesnt look so good D:
  5. 03:59:814 (1,2,3,4,1) - polygonal circle creation plz
  6. 04:06:788 (2) - same as 00:36:261 (2)
thats all, hope my suggestions at least helped a little, good luck ~
Setz
[General]
  1. just my opinion, but I think the difficulty spread needs some tweaking, the difficulty jumps between normal and advanced, and hard and insane are pretty crazy, while advanced to hard feels fine. I don't know how you would address this though. wait on more opinions on this, but I think you should keep this in mind.
[Normal]
  • just some nazi things and personal preferences for this diff, take what you may from this.
  1. 00:22:445 (4,1,2) - this looks kinda.... meh, you should move the 1 and 2 up a little, so that the 1 is on the same axis as 4. you only need to move these 2 sliders, and adjust the following circle slightly so that it keeps the distance snap consistency. it makes this part look more neat.
  2. 00:31:393 (1,2) - watch spacing here, usually .01 or .02 isnt a big deal, but .05 is kinda pushing it.
  3. 00:58:761 (1) - instead of curving this slider, maybe make it straight and and the same angle as 00:59:288 (2) -
  4. 01:11:393 (1,2) - very nazi, but all the blankets for this part can be improved. im assuming you copy pasted for this whole section, so it applies to everything here.this is an example of what i mean, you only need to move the center anchor some to fix them.
  5. 01:30:340 (1) - nudge the end point up a little bit, it is outside the grid as is
  6. 01:58:761 (3) - ^ this one may be fine, but i think you should move it left a little bit, just to be safe.
  7. 02:40:866 (2) - this one is def outside of the grid.
  8. 03:09:288 (1) - more nazi, make the start and end point be on the same axis?
[Advanced]
  1. check all your blankets in this diff, just makes the map look nicer. use 1/16 beat snap divisor and the approach circle, alot of them are off.
  2. 00:37:709 - now this is just my opinion, but I think that for this part, which is rather clam compared to the rest of the song, you should use lower SV and smaller spacing. it fits rather nicer than your current spacing. I understand if you dont to do this for the advanced diff, but i just think it plays nicer, kibbleru did it for the hard.
  3. 00:50:340 (1) - end point is outside the grid
  4. 02:01:919 (1) - ^
  5. 02:55:866 (2) - ^
  6. 01:06:919 (7,1) - move these to the same axis maybe
  7. 01:51:393 (1,2,3) - consider a different pattern for this. this flow is pretty bad, specially for a diff that is supposed to be easier than hard.
[Hard]
  • from here on, I will only have a few suggestions, since the way you mapped this with the high SV and spacing makes it resembles the 0108 style which i am not really a big fan of.
  1. 01:44:682 (1,2,3,1) - in my opinion, you should take a second look at patterns like this. I know that you want the jump on 1 for emphasis, but I think that it is difficult enough that there are 3 circles with this kind of spacing right before it. if you really want a jump, you should make 01:44:814 (2,3) - into a slider, it makes it more comfortable to play. well, its your call in the end, what you have here isnt wrong by any means.
  2. 02:01:393 (7,8) - this spacing is rather confusing. I don't see the reason for this jump at all.
  3. 02:35:340 (9,10) - onsider making this note stack into a slider similar to 02:34:551 (5) - just to ease this part up a little bit
  4. 03:49:288 (1) - end point outside of the grid
[Insane]
  1. look carefully throughout the map ,you still have slider points outside of the grid :o
that is all I have. I really don't have anything to say about the insane due to the reason i stated in the beginning of the mod for Hard. hopefully you take something away from this.

good luck with the map sir :D
guineaQ
YES A MOD

I react fast like a guinea pig running away from predator (wtf)

EDIT: don't give kds until I finish this mod

[General]
Eh not much

[Normal]
00:25:077 (1) - Consider moving this to x:100 y:216, you won't have to rearrange anything
00:46:130 (1) - I personally believe 1/2 reverse slider would work best here, its not like you are doing anything with aesthetics with this slider.
00:57:709 (3,2) - not exactly perfectly blanketed
02:00:340 (2) - x:256 y:160 anyone
02:02:972 (2) - why is there a whistle on the reverse
02:46:130 (1,2) - pls check blanket
03:30:866 (2) - flatten out the curve SLIGHTLY for improved blanketting
Symmetry is kewl isn't it

[Advanced]
283 object count -> 492 object count
I smell issues
AR+0.5, you have a lot 1/4s and the overlaps can be hard to read with this low of an AR (imo I would even recommend AR 7)

00:33:235 (6) - x:72 y:356 ish area
01:02:709 (4) - are you going to move this so its perfect square or not
01:17:709 (3,4,5) - is this imperfect shape unintentional?
01:51:393 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - I think this might have some potential misread capability due to REALLY low AR
03:01:919 (2) - imo, the starting white tick doesn't really deserve a clickable hitobject when the vocal IS ENDING. Just having a 1/2 slider starting on red tick on 03:02:182 - works
03:23:235 (4) - care to make the slider end not overlap each other?
03:40:866 (3,4,5) - ?? I'm seeing a lot of OBVIOUS imperfect shapes like these, if they are intentional dont mind me, but it still feels really off after seeing perfectly clean symmetry like 02:33:498 (1,2,3,4,5,1) - and there are random imperfect shapes...feels off if you ask me

2 main issues I have with this diff
1.) Aesthetics feel WAY off depending on parts. Some parts have perfectly executed symmetry and arrangement meanwhile some parts have glaringly obvious imperfect shapes.
2.) Introduction of 1/4 is needed, but there is A LOT of 1/4s. Because of this, its quite a big jump from normal to advanced difficulty wise. I can't think of any valid suggestion that would be very easy to implement to fix this issue. (And I'm sure some other people pointed this out)

[Hard]
ROFL


Kibbleru
01:04:814 (6) - ctrl+g since you made 01:04:288 (4,5) - flow directly
01:10:472 (2,3,4,5,6) - idk it felt awkward to me but i dont have any suggestions ;w;
04:09:024 (1,2) - ctrl+g to victory

Tari
02:38:761 (1,2,3,4) - owww so close to making perfect square
02:50:340 (1,2) - you do realize this blanket is little bit off right?
03:30:735 (2) - x:82 y:54
03:42:709 (7) - I would ctrl +g this, cus flow from 5 to 6 is manageable but 7's curve just makes 6 to 7's flow awkward

Intentionally neglected some blanket issues since they aren't really noticeable in play anyways

[Insane]
Oh hello Talent Shredder's baby with less convoluted sliders

I was just gonna link a testplay to this because I'm 120% sure I won't be able to give any better suggestions for this diff since I have 0 idea how to map in this kind of style but I failed right at the last part so no testplay replay for u rip grammar

03:37:709 (1,2,3,4) - I personally heavily disapprove this because they put abrupt stop on the flow you were having

k i guess thats all- wait i have to say this
04:08:235 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1) - gg
Midge
hi tari B)
Topic Starter
Tari
kakifly

kakifly wrote:

from PM ~

General

  1. i think slider tick rate 4 would fit the higher diffs better, try it out and see
Insane

  1. 00:36:393 - map this part? i feel the anti-jump would only be at 00:35:998 (2) - and pause a bit, and from 00:36:261 (3) - the music would continue again so if you mapped that note it would have a cool effect Sorry no, the beats at the blue ticks, are way stronger than any other beats, and I wanted to emphasize those.
  2. 00:36:919 (1) - remove NC? it doesnt follow your usual pattern
  3. 00:39:551 (1) - i think you should follow your usual NC pattern (1 nc every measure) so remove the nc from that note and add to 00:39:814 (3) -
  4. same reason as above^ remove nc from 00:43:761 (1) - , add to 00:44:024 (2) - Uhm no, the first note that appears, after the long break needs a combo, or else the drain would die out.
  5. 00:51:130 (3) - try making this the same as 00:52:182 (3) - , a 1/4 slider because theres a sound at 00:51:261 - and also for consistency lol No, I wanted to emphasize 00:52:445 (4) - more with a jump, so the only way I could make a jump but still have rhythms while following the music is turning 00:52:182 (3) - to a slider, the sound at 00:52:445 (4) - is way strong, thus a jump is good there.
  6. 00:58:761 (1) - make this slider more even? http://puu.sh/dGQbb/575ba2e77c.jpg
  7. 01:01:919 (1) - remove NC for consistency no, consistency is fine. Check 01:52:445 (1) -
  8. 01:09:288 (1,2) - adding whistles on the head of these would be nice and follows the music
  9. 01:10:077 (1) - remove NC for consistency no 02:00:866 (1) -
  10. 01:29:288 (1) - ^
  11. 01:43:893 - add note? same concept as 00:36:393 same.
  12. 01:52:445 (1) - imo this part where the drum is strong doesnt really need an NC yes, please look at 01:01:919 (1) -
  13. 02:00:866 (1) - remove NC? because this part compared to parts like 02:01:919 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - isn't like a repetition of the same music so an NC doesn't really fit considering the phrase after it no look at 01:01:919 (1) -
  14. 02:06:130 (1,2) - i don't think these are exact copies of each other, so you should copy paste them for better symmetry xD
  15. 02:22:972 (1) - add clap to spinner?
  16. 02:32:972 (1) - remove nc, because the music here is repeating and back at 02:28:761 (5) - for that specific phrase you didn't NC, instead add NC at 02:33:498 (3) - and remove for 02:33:761 (1) - // same concept for 02:41:393 (1,2,3,1) nope, the spacing will be hard to read w/o it imo.
  17. 02:34:024 (3) 02:42:445 (3) - - i would avoid the head and tail overlapping
  18. 03:11:393 (1,2,3) - flow is weird here, i just rearranged these sliders into a nicer pattern and ctrl + g some of the sliders for a smoother flow http://puu.sh/dGRRF/9c5e092e62.jpg (the slider covered by the ball is 2) ah no, I like my current pattern.
  19. 03:12:709 (1) - i would suggest to remove nc here to follow your pattern unless you are specifically using 'vocal NC's' here, but it goes off your regular nc pattern if that makes sense Dx (then add NC to 03:13:498 (4) - )
  20. 03:14:288 (1,2,3,4,5) - lol please use the polygonal circle creation (ctrl + shift + d) to do this, the manually made star doesnt look so good orz ;w;
  21. also ^ 03:14:288 (1) - i would suggest to remove the nc to follow your pattern because theres nothing really strong or unique here that calls for NC
  22. 03:25:077 (1) - imo don't think these drums need a new nc ~
  23. 03:31:919 (5) - avoid overlap with 03:31:261 (3) - ? then you would have to move 03:30:209 (8) - as well because they are stacked
  24. 03:33:498 (1) - remove NC? because unlike the phrases after this, like i've mentioned before its not a repetition of the same sounds, so an NC here compared with 03:34:551 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - seems off
  25. 03:50:866 (1) - add whistle to body?
  26. 03:58:761 (5) - kind of nazi but maybe stack on head of 03:56:919 (5) - just so it looks a bit cleaner in the editor xD
  27. 04:05:077 (1) - doesnt seem like an NC is needed here imo :o
  28. 04:06:919 - same as 00:36:393
  29. 04:08:761 (5,7) - stack these, seems like you might of unstacked by accident
Hard


  • Kibbleru
  1. 00:48:103 (6,1) - this distance here is a bit confusing imo, it almost looks like a 1/2 when its 1/4, should move closer together
  2. 00:54:156 (1) - not sure why this would need an NC imo, since the circles follow the same drums that start at 00:54:024 -
  3. 01:02:051 (2,3) - what are the normal sampleset whistles following?
  4. 01:10:340 (1) - remove NC for consistency?
  5. 01:27:709 (1) - add hitsound to this note because you made it a single note NC, something should emphasize it
  6. 01:30:077 (6,1,2,3,4,5) - personally i would prefer if you followed the beat here rather than the vocals more so like you did at 01:28:235 (1,2,3,4,5) - & 01:32:445 (1,2,3,4) -
  7. 01:36:656 (1) - add whistle on repeat ?
  8. 01:44:024 (1,1,1,2,3) - same as 00:54:156 (1)
  9. 03:56:656 - imo this part should be mapped because its a strong instrumental

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    Tari
  10. 02:22:972 (1) - add clap to spinner
  11. 02:52:182 (3,1,2,3,4) - polygonal circle creation please :<
  12. 03:50:866 (1) - add whistle to body?
will continue other diffs tomorrow sorry ><

Fixed Nearly everything of other two mods, just cleaned some stuff a bit. Thanks for modding!
Kibbleru
i fixed alot thanks guys!

@Tari, can i leave the hitsound suggestions to you? u copied them from insane so im not sure how its supposed to work

SPOILER
osu file format v13

[General]
AudioFilename: 05 Silence.mp3
AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 103761
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Soft
StackLeniency: 0.7
Mode: 0
LetterboxInBreaks: 1
WidescreenStoryboard: 1

[Editor]
DistanceSpacing: 1.2
BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 4
TimelineZoom: 1.5

[Metadata]
Title:Silence
TitleUnicode:Silence
Artist:nano
ArtistUnicode:nano
Creator:Tari
Version:Hard
Source:
Tags:heartbeat nanoir kibbleru
BeatmapID:565111
BeatmapSetID:240160

[Difficulty]
HPDrainRate:6
CircleSize:4
OverallDifficulty:6
ApproachRate:7.5
SliderMultiplier:2.59999990463257
SliderTickRate:1

[Events]
//Background and Video events
0,0,"bg.jpg",0,0
//Break Periods
2,138961,142147
//Storyboard Layer 0 (Background)
//Storyboard Layer 1 (Fail)
//Storyboard Layer 2 (Pass)
//Storyboard Layer 3 (Foreground)
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Winnie
Just a random mod to see if I am still terrible at these kind of things :)

[Normal]

00:36:261 (2) - Not sure if this note is stretched too far past the sound played at the blue tick. It seems weird to end it that way but for some reason it sounds the best
00:48:235 - Following vocals here sounds like best. What sounded best to me was to start 00:48:235 and make one long reverse slider, the BG music glides with the vocals instead of the choppy 1/2 reverse slider. (You can change anyhow you want)
00:51:393 (2) - To me moving it a tick over to the right wouldn't bite. I just don't like how you can almost see it touching even though it's a really tight gap.
00:57:182 (2,3) - These two sliders doesn't follow the rhythm that you had at 00:54:551 (1,2), throws off the essential rhythm you once had.
01:32:445 (1) - Slidertick clap? To follow the pattern
01:58:761 (3) - At here the combination of both vocals and music kicks in; I did something like this to get the best out of that area for the same reason above Example
02:15:077 (2,3,4) - Jumps aren't consistent to jumps you had at the end of the first kiai, it's fine but I'd like to keep it similiar (My Preference)
02:55:603 - To me it feels like a note here would be nice to stay the route as the others your had but it's fine as it is because it brings uniqueness to the flow
03:29:814 (3,2) - Adjust the slider to be about parallel; move slider tail of (2) up a tad bit so it looks better
04:06:788 (2) - Same as above, feels the slider extends too long or maybe I just can't hear the sound

[Advanced]

Currently not sure how I can help mod this because I don't know what to expect coming into it. (1st time)

[Hard]

*General Thoughts on Hard - I feel it's a bit over the top. It has a good sense of rhythm and where notes should be at to get the music, but in general the difficulty on it is really high. Some parts I believe can be changed to kill down the difficulty a tad bit so it doesn't affect the high spread that's occurring. Basically what I find hard to be was an alternate map, where you use both dominant and non-dominant fingers to play the notes because of the high SV and the way the rhythm is mapped out. This is only how I felt about it. I do agree with Setz on this one, if SV was a tad bit faster and AR was 1 shift higher and the way the shapes of the sliders are formed, it could be considered a Val0108 map. Personally Val's maps are fun but if implemented into a hard difficulty would not be like a Tari map at all to me (ಥ﹏ಥ)

01:10:735 (3,4,5,6,1) - I believe this transitions too quickly. First we have a blue tick notes being played and to me it feels awkward. It fits with the rhythm but playing them as a stream spread is quite difficult especially from slider to the note spread to the mini jump to play the next sequence. What felt the best to me was take out the single note spread and replace with a long slider. I might be killing the rhythm that way but it make its simple and clean :?
02:01:393 (7,9,1) - I feel keeping the same spacing consistency visually looks more appealing. (OCD)
02:15:603 (5,6) - Move over to the right a bit to keep same spacing as previous combo at around 1.64 DS
02:34:288 (4,7,8,9,10) - These stacks seems difficult and hidden. It really will cause the deaths of many, I'd follow the same pattern you had at the start of the map, with something like this Example

[Insane]

Love the way the anti jumps were changed. Feels a lot better
00:48:235 (1) - Sliderwhistle?
I don't see anything that would be of an issue to me so it's fine.

I thoroughly took 2 hours to fully examine this to all of your previous maps. So I hope this mod will help; I do always wish for you to succeed my friend. These are just what seems to me like easy fixes, but don't take my word for it, it's your map and your choice. I have yet to achieve anything, but one day I will ♥‿♥
Kibbleru

Kocari wrote:

Just a random mod to see if I am still terrible at these kind of things :)

[Hard]

*General Thoughts on Hard - I feel it's a bit over the top. It has a good sense of rhythm and where notes should be at to get the music, but in general the difficulty on it is really high. Some parts I believe can be changed to kill down the difficulty a tad bit so it doesn't affect the high spread that's occurring. Basically what I find hard to be was an alternate map, where you use both dominant and non-dominant fingers to play the notes because of the high SV and the way the rhythm is mapped out. This is only how I felt about it. I do agree with Setz on this one, if SV was a tad bit faster and AR was 1 shift higher and the way the shapes of the sliders are formed, it could be considered a Val0108 map. Personally Val's maps are fun but if implemented into a hard difficulty would not be like a Tari map at all to me (ಥ﹏ಥ) personally this spread is as fine as it can get to be. as you know this is that type of song where it's supposed to be mapped like a 2xx bpm map so even having it not being rated an insane is already really good. bseides there's an advanced diff to cover the gap anyway

also it doesn't seem like its much of a tari map is because what happened is he made me map the first half and he tried to copy off my style for the rest of it (and he did a pretty fine job)


01:10:735 (3,4,5,6,1) - I believe this transitions too quickly. First we have a blue tick notes being played and to me it feels awkward. It fits with the rhythm but playing them as a stream spread is quite difficult especially from slider to the note spread to the mini jump to play the next sequence. What felt the best to me was take out the single note spread and replace with a long slider. I might be killing the rhythm that way but it make its simple and clean :? its okay imo, a short diff spike like this is fine and it fits the music but i will keep this in mind
02:01:393 (7,9,1) - I feel keeping the same spacing consistency visually looks more appealing. (OCD) k
02:15:603 (5,6) - Move over to the right a bit to keep same spacing as previous combo at around 1.64 DS k
02:34:288 (4,7,8,9,10) - These stacks seems difficult and hidden. It really will cause the deaths of many, I'd follow the same pattern you had at the start of the map, with something like this Example

I thoroughly took 2 hours to fully examine this to all of your previous maps. So I hope this mod will help; I do always wish for you to succeed my friend. These are just what seems to me like easy fixes, but don't take my word for it, it's your map and your choice. I have yet to achieve anything, but one day I will ♥‿♥
SPOILER
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[Editor]
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40,340,221656,2,0,P|11:282|11:217,1,129.999995231629,14|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
36,136,222051,1,0,0:0:0:0:
100,84,222182,2,0,P|136:104|176:116,1,64.9999976158143,8|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
288,36,222445,2,0,P|260:40|224:56,1,64.9999976158143,0|2,0:0|0:2,0:0:0:0:
292,192,222709,2,0,P|266:172|246:146,1,64.9999976158143,8|10,0:0|0:2,0:0:0:0:
348,120,222972,6,0,B|384:132|384:132|420:100|472:136|472:136|456:192|488:248,2,194.999992847443,4|2|10,0:0|0:2|0:2,0:0:0:0:
192,224,224024,2,0,B|172:276|172:276|176:316|194:347,1,129.999995231629,8|0,0:2|0:0,0:0:0:0:
318,347,224419,2,0,B|336:316|340:276|340:276|320:224,1,129.999995231629,8|0,0:2|0:0,0:0:0:0:
288,148,224814,2,0,B|252:152|252:152|200:144,1,64.9999976158143,8|0,0:2|0:0,0:0:0:0:
344,40,225077,6,0,B|284:40|284:40|216:64|216:64|128:64,2,194.999992847443,4|2|10,0:0|0:2|0:2,0:0:0:0:
456,168,226130,2,0,P|492:220|481:284,1,129.999995231629,8|0,0:2|0:0,0:0:0:0:
400,240,226524,2,0,B|296:236|296:236|272:288,1,129.999995231629,8|0,0:2|0:0,0:0:0:0:
268,356,226919,2,0,L|192:348,1,64.9999976158143,0|0,0:2|0:0,0:0:0:0:
108,360,227182,5,8,0:0:0:0:
108,360,227314,2,0,P|52:284|64:200,1,129.999995231629,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
160,296,227709,1,8,0:0:0:0:
160,296,227840,2,0,P|162:201|223:142,1,129.999995231629,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
244,276,228235,1,8,0:0:0:0:
244,276,228366,2,0,P|304:203|388:194,1,129.999995231629,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
336,316,228761,1,8,0:0:0:0:
336,316,228893,2,0,P|428:295|500:340,1,129.999995231629,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
492,212,229288,6,0,L|500:140,2,64.9999976158143,12|0|0,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
408,212,229682,2,0,L|428:68,1,129.999995231629,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
360,44,230077,2,0,B|328:28|252:16,1,64.9999976158143,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
144,64,230340,2,0,B|212:40,1,64.9999976158143,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
320,112,230603,2,0,B|212:140,1,64.9999976158143,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
68,120,230866,6,0,B|84:184|132:208|132:208|136:152|200:128,1,195.000000286102,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
220,216,231393,6,0,L|204:356,2,129.999995231629,6|8|8,0:0|0:2|0:1,0:0:0:0:
276,164,232051,1,0,0:0:0:0:
276,164,232314,2,0,P|345:168|406:174,1,129.999995231629,10|10,0:2|0:2,0:0:0:0:
416,96,232709,1,10,0:2:0:0:
364,40,232840,1,2,0:0:0:0:
292,67,232972,2,0,P|263:83|231:85,1,64.9999976158143,8|2,0:1|2:0,0:0:0:0:
164,44,233235,2,0,L|88:36,1,64.9999976158143,8|2,0:1|2:0,0:0:0:0:
36,140,233498,6,0,P|48:200|64:284,1,129.999995231629,4|0,0:2|0:2,0:0:0:0:
160,148,234024,2,0,P|173:182|184:216,1,64.9999976158143,8|0,0:1|0:0,0:0:0:0:
180,220,234419,2,0,B|216:220|244:208|244:208|276:212|308:205,1,129.999995231629,2|2,0:0|2:0,0:0:0:0:
384,188,234814,2,0,P|379:224|372:268,1,64.9999976158143,2|2,0:2|0:0,0:0:0:0:
480,172,235077,2,0,P|470:137|460:104,1,64.9999976158143,8|8,0:1|2:1,0:0:0:0:
384,96,235340,2,0,P|353:85|320:82,1,64.9999976158143,8|4,0:1|0:3,0:0:0:0:
175,127,235603,6,0,P|224:168|291:162,2,129.999995231629,4|8|8,0:1|0:2|0:1,0:0:0:0:
120,76,236261,2,0,P|131:140|140:204,1,129.999995231629,0|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
92,352,236788,1,0,0:0:0:0:
92,352,236919,1,2,0:2:0:0:
224,272,237182,1,8,0:1:0:0:
224,272,237314,1,2,2:0:0:0:
224,272,237445,2,0,L|304:280,1,64.9999976158143,8|2,0:1|2:0,0:0:0:0:
352,323,237709,6,0,P|399:281|404:218,1,129.999995231629,4|2,0:0|0:2,0:0:0:0:
304,100,238235,1,8,0:1:0:0:
304,100,238366,2,0,P|241:112|177:122,1,129.999995231629,2|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
32,180,238893,2,0,L|104:188,1,64.9999976158143,2|8,2:0|0:1,0:0:0:0:
152,244,239156,2,0,P|184:239|212:223,1,64.9999976158143,2|8,0:0|0:1,0:0:0:0:
236,148,239419,1,2,2:0:0:0:
312,124,239551,1,8,0:1:0:0:
380,160,239682,1,10,0:0:0:0:
399,235,239814,6,0,P|387:299|373:363,2,129.999995231629,4|2|8,0:0|0:2|0:1,0:0:0:0:
380,160,240472,1,0,0:0:0:0:
380,160,240735,1,2,1:2:0:0:
304,180,240866,2,0,L|239:168,1,64.9999976158143,8|0,0:1|0:0,0:0:0:0:
196,232,241130,2,0,L|131:220,1,64.9999976158143,0|2,0:0|2:0,0:0:0:0:
60,124,241393,2,0,P|88:109|121:106,1,64.9999976158143,8|2,0:1|1:2,0:0:0:0:
180,56,241656,2,0,P|210:65|243:68,1,64.9999976158143,2|0,0:2|0:0,0:0:0:0:
303,20,241919,6,0,P|272:76|270:140,2,129.999995231629,4|2|8,0:0|0:2|0:1,0:0:0:0:
376,56,242577,2,0,L|504:74,1,129.999995231629,2|8,0:0|0:1,0:0:0:0:
492,196,242972,2,0,P|467:175|436:164,1,64.9999976158143,8|2,0:1|0:2,0:0:0:0:
368,200,243235,2,0,P|335:204|303:209,1,64.9999976158143,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
224,208,243498,2,0,P|191:203|159:198,1,64.9999976158143,8|2,0:1|2:0,0:0:0:0:
88,164,243761,2,0,P|57:174|32:195,1,64.9999976158143,8|0,0:1|0:0,0:0:0:0:
112,268,244024,6,0,P|74:320|71:384,2,129.999995231629,4|2|8,0:0|0:2|0:1,0:0:0:0:
180,308,244682,2,0,B|212:296|240:304|240:304|260:292|260:292|305:292,1,129.999995231629,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
368,340,245077,1,10,0:0:0:0:
368,340,245209,1,0,0:0:0:0:
432,300,245340,1,0,0:0:0:0:
432,300,245472,1,0,0:0:0:0:
420,224,245603,2,0,L|492:208,1,64.9999976158143,8|2,0:1|0:0,0:0:0:0:
499,131,245866,2,0,P|485:103|458:85,1,64.9999976158143,8|0,0:1|0:0,0:0:0:0:
336,128,246130,6,0,L|252:112,1,64.9999976158143,6|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
204,156,246393,1,0,0:0:0:0:
204,156,246524,2,0,P|216:223|232:292,1,129.999995231629,2|10,0:0|0:2,0:0:0:0:
300,248,246919,1,0,0:0:0:0:
300,248,247051,2,0,P|344:293|407:294,1,129.999995231629,6|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
464,196,247445,6,0,P|433:201|392:212,1,64.9999976158143,8|2,0:1|0:0,0:0:0:0:
360,112,247709,2,0,P|327:105|288:96,1,64.9999976158143,8|2,0:1|0:0,0:0:0:0:
300,212,247972,2,0,P|269:222|238:234,1,64.9999976158143,8|2,0:1|0:0,0:0:0:0:
191,107,248235,6,0,P|161:97|131:85,1,64.9999976158143,4|2,0:0|0:2,0:0:0:0:
20,144,248498,2,0,P|50:154|80:166,1,64.9999976158143,8|2,0:0|0:2,0:0:0:0:
120,236,248761,1,2,0:0:0:0:
120,236,248893,1,2,0:0:0:0:
20,328,249024,6,0,P|50:317|80:305,1,64.9999976158143,4|4,0:0|0:2,0:0:0:0:
220,332,249288,2,0,P|189:342|159:354,1,64.9999976158143,8|2,0:0|0:2,0:0:0:0:
Winnie

Kibbleru wrote:

Kocari wrote:

Just a random mod to see if I am still terrible at these kind of things :)

It doesn't seem like its much of a tari map is because what happened is he made me map the first half and he tried to copy off my style for the rest of it (and he did a pretty fine job)
I see. Either way I find it to be extremely fun :)
Wafu

Mod as requested

Red - Unrankable
Blue - Highly recommended
Black - Suggestion
General


  1. Because the kiai times are inconsistent within the difficulties, I think it should end on downbeat, because a new part always starts on it. For example 01:28:235 should be end on all diffs, not 01:27:709, applies to all kiai times.
  2. Some tags regarding the song would be appropriate, I recommend adding 'Powerless' as he composed the song, you might also add his alias 無力P and MuryokuP, but at least Powerless, as representing on the album shall be added.
  3. I also thought the album shall be added, but then I realized the album name is just 「N」, so it might be maybe too short.
  4. The artist's name should be ナノ and the romanised one should be nano. Firstly, he is japanese artist, so he should use his japanese name, for more confirmation, he lists himself on other albums as ナノ and also calls him like that on the official website, he only has 'nano' on CD labels if he prints his logo there, because only his logo actually is romanised. ナノ is also used on his official twitter, youtube and facebook, so it is definitely the right form of usage.
  5. It will also be appropriate if you add FlyingDog to the tags as it is the main publisher, but that's not extremely important.

Normal


  1. 00:36:261 (2) - I know you wanted to keep symmetry in this pattern, but the problem is there is no significant sound on 00:36:656, thus this slider does not make much sense. In my opinion, it is fine if you just shorten it to 1/2 slider and form it to normal straight slider, eventually you can rotate it.
  2. 01:32:445 (1) - Just a little issue, but reversing the slider with CTRL+J definitely improves the flow from both left and right side, currently the slider would always aim against the flow, so this is probably more intelligent usage.
  3. 04:06:788 (2) - Same issue as 00:36:261 (2)
I liked this diff, only thing I did not like was just mapping notes which were not in the song, or were not very significant, that means style over following song, what's not very proper choice, but anyway, it happened only few times, so I think you it shall be okay.


Advanced


  1. Increase the AR to 6, because the combination of this BPM and stacks can make really mess and confusion if you see that many approach circles at once.
  2. 01:51:393 (1,2,3) - This is one of not many things I wanted to talk about in this diff. Also applies to 01:51:919 (3,4,1) obviously, as it is the same pattern. Within most of your map, the lead to next object is mostly defined by the shape of the patterns - where does the slider point to, there is another object, but in this part, the way player is forced to play seems a lot unnatural. I mean you have to play against the flow and you have to make a really sharp movement with cursor, thus the movement will not be so accurate. Considering you needed to make a diff what would fill in the spread, it shall be pleasure for newbies to play when it is just above normal but under hard, but maybe you might feel it as a weird point of view.
  3. 02:46:130 (1,2) - A little issue, but you might consider fixing the blanket.
  4. 03:09:288 (1) - The start of the slider has a bit unsymmetrical shape and it looks like it is more flat on one side, please move the 2nd point in the center of 1st and 3rd point (321;293)
What to say, nice difficulty.


Hard


  1. Increase the AR to 8 for the same reason as Advanced, it really messes in some parts.
  2. 00:25:735 (3,4,5,6) - As this happened only once, I am going to say it. You used, you used 2 stacks really in the time, but one is 1/2 and the second is 1/4 so in haste, many players will miss on this place, because they will tend to play 1/4 instead of 1/2 or reversed, thus I recommend making some difference between 1/2 and 1/4 stacks when they are both visible (also one of reasons to increase the AR), for example you can put a low DS on 1/2 stacks, like you did on 01:27:709 (1,1), but that was 1/2. The combination of BPM and stacking notes with different divisor can make just more confusion, so it is better to differ them if both types of stacks are visible.
Nothing important to mention.


Insane


  1. I think you should increase the HP since it is the same as previous difficulty and also, when playing, even after missing some notes, I felt like the HP is not changing. There must be a gap within the diffs.
  2. Here I am going to mod hitsounding too, as Insane is difficulty where it is able to have the most hitsounds and other diffs can just be based on it. Anyway, just on the start, there is 50% volume, then it changes on 30%, because there is a finish, I actually agree on muting finish sound a bit to make it not so loud, but here, I doubt it is much audiable, so I recommend using at least 40%, but the bigger problem is the inherited point on 00:23:103. You increased the volume to 60% while the music is exactly the identical volume as the part before the finish, so either change the first point's volume to 60%, or the second to 50%, however I feel the first option is better, I would personally increase the volume of both parts to 70% so the hitsounds are really audiable. For the finish, it does not emphasize anything in song - There is a cymbal in the song, but you actually muted it so it is less audiable than regular hitnormal, so you should increase it to volume so it sounds a bit louder than regular notes, else it is insensible.
  3. 00:35:998 - Similar as above, but you kept the low volume for both finish notes and regular ones, that again means there are the notes of the same volume in music, but you mute them, even if they had different volume before in the map. Easy solution might be adding louder timing point on 00:36:788 to make it sensible with previous part.
  4. 00:53:498 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - This part seems to be fine, but if you listen to the song, you can hear there is no sound at all on 00:53:761 apart from voice, but it is the same volume as others, so your hitsounds make a feel like there actually is a drum, but there's only voice, so you should decrease the volume just on this one note, but put it back to previous volume on 00:53:893, because the drums start here again. Second solution could be using soft sampleset just on this note, but still I feel it would be too loud. Third possible solution is probably the best - Map the drums in this part. It is better to map the thing you are mapping just right after it, combining voice-mapping and drum-mapping might be fine if they fit together and have similar rhythm, but firstly, the voice is out of the offset in this song (that's becuase drummers are more accurate about rhythm than singers, obviously) and additionally you cannot tell when are the voices ending, becuase those are fading down slower than drums, so I think you should follow guitar and drums as you did in the most of map, in this case, it would look like this.
  5. 01:34:551 (7,8) - Another similar part as before. If you listen to how you mapped 01:32:445 (1,2,3,4,5,6), you can hear it obviously, you mapped a drums and bass, but afterwards, you just ignore it, start the slider on 01:34:945, instead of 01:35:077, which would be a better choice, since now you can hear just snare in the middle of the slider, so I recommend adding 2 circles, on 01:35:077 and 01:35:209 instead of this slider, obivously the first with normal sampleset and second with finish and make them into the stack as 01:35:472 (1,2), because they use the same drum sequence, so it fits if they are mapped the same way.
  6. 02:54:551 (1,2,3) - Yes, there is a problem with rhythm, I agree with mapping vocals in previous part, because there was no other song, but then after piano came in, you started to map it on 02:51:919 (4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6), then mapping the vocal and came back to piano on 02:56:130 (4,5,1,2,3,4,5) etc. You should remove 02:54:945 (2) and put circle on 02:55:077 just like screenshot below. The reason is the change from piano to vocals and then back to piano. If there is instrument, you should follow that, because the voice is not on 02:54:945, you cannot exactly tell where it is, because it is not accurate, he is singer, he does not hold the rhythm the best. So basically his voice starts somewhere on 02:54:989, not 02:54:945, obviously, I used 1/12 divisor so I am near, but it is still obviously out. If you start to map piano, keep it over voice mainly in such parts, also you mapped only one slider of voice here, so I do not see a special reason for it. I do not think it is good to make 1/4 spaces between sliders just to make it creative, when there is not a sound which would deserve the mapping, instead it might be better if you had a jump here which also followed the music properly.
  7. 03:03:630 (3) - Nothing big, but there is nothing in music, not the piano, drum nor the voice, so I recommend to delete this note and keep just 1/2 stack.
  8. 03:11:788 (2,3) - Also similar to 02:54:551 (1,2,3), you followed guitar before, and then started to follow inaccurately the voice, while guitar on 03:11:919 might have been followed way better with adding circle on 03:11:919 and making 03:12:182 (3) end on 03:12:709.
Well mapped anyway.


Conclusion: Rankable

I kind of liked the map, the style choice was fine spread will also not be much problem, but main thing I did not like was the rhythm following. Sometimes you followed voice over other instruments, I might sound like I do not like following voice, but the problem is every voice is not accurate, it is always a bit out, while other instruments are mostly fine, that was one of reasons why did I not like the rhythm, but the bigger problem was its combination. You followed the voices in some parts just because there were 1/4 gaps (which were not even 1/4, but a bit later than 1/4). I do not know why do some mappers feel it is creative, but anyway, it was not appropriate as you was coming from instrument to voice and back. There were some parts, where following the voice was the only choice so it was fine, but I think it is really pity to ignore the main instruments, thus making some hitsounds ignored and having non-accurate rhythm and some errors in consistency of following. Anyway I pretty much enjoyed the map, this was only thing bothering me. When I get the kd, I will give you a star.

Good luck with your map :3

If there is some misunderstanding, feel free to PM me in-game, eventually through forums and I can explain anything what was not obvious.
Topic Starter
Tari
Kocari

Kocari wrote:

Just a random mod to see if I am still terrible at these kind of things :)

[Normal]

00:36:261 (2) - Not sure if this note is stretched too far past the sound played at the blue tick. It seems weird to end it that way but for some reason it sounds the best intentional really, and doesn't matter, the transition to next note would be better.
00:48:235 - Following vocals here sounds like best. What sounded best to me was to start 00:48:235 and make one long reverse slider, the BG music glides with the vocals instead of the choppy 1/2 reverse slider. (You can change anyhow you want) Sadly no, I wanted to keep it simple and continue mapping white ticks, but added a spice because red tick after that has strong sound people will click at.
00:51:393 (2) - To me moving it a tick over to the right wouldn't bite. I just don't like how you can almost see it touching even though it's a really tight gap.
00:57:182 (2,3) - These two sliders doesn't follow the rhythm that you had at 00:54:551 (1,2), throws off the essential rhythm you once had. I wanted a twist.
01:32:445 (1) - Slidertick clap? To follow the pattern clap blends in really well, i think its ok without it.
01:58:761 (3) - At here the combination of both vocals and music kicks in; I did something like this to get the best out of that area for the same reason above Example Thats pretty hard for a normal, I'd prefer if leave like this.
02:15:077 (2,3,4) - Jumps aren't consistent to jumps you had at the end of the first kiai, it's fine but I'd like to keep it similiar (My Preference) totally fine, they're basically the same movement.
02:55:603 - To me it feels like a note here would be nice to stay the route as the others your had but it's fine as it is because it brings uniqueness to the flow Slow part, a pause here would work well with it.
03:29:814 (3,2) - Adjust the slider to be about parallel; move slider tail of (2) up a tad bit so it looks better
04:06:788 (2) - Same as above, feels the slider extends too long or maybe I just can't hear the sound ~

[Advanced]

Currently not sure how I can help mod this because I don't know what to expect coming into it. (1st time)

[Hard]

*General Thoughts on Hard - I feel it's a bit over the top. It has a good sense of rhythm and where notes should be at to get the music, but in general the difficulty on it is really high. Some parts I believe can be changed to kill down the difficulty a tad bit so it doesn't affect the high spread that's occurring. Basically what I find hard to be was an alternate map, where you use both dominant and non-dominant fingers to play the notes because of the high SV and the way the rhythm is mapped out. This is only how I felt about it. I do agree with Setz on this one, if SV was a tad bit faster and AR was 1 shift higher and the way the shapes of the sliders are formed, it could be considered a Val0108 map. Personally Val's maps are fun but if implemented into a hard difficulty would not be like a Tari map at all to me (ಥ﹏ಥ)

01:10:735 (3,4,5,6,1) - I believe this transitions too quickly. First we have a blue tick notes being played and to me it feels awkward. It fits with the rhythm but playing them as a stream spread is quite difficult especially from slider to the note spread to the mini jump to play the next sequence. What felt the best to me was take out the single note spread and replace with a long slider. I might be killing the rhythm that way but it make its simple and clean :?
02:01:393 (7,9,1) - I feel keeping the same spacing consistency visually looks more appealing. (OCD)
02:15:603 (5,6) - Move over to the right a bit to keep same spacing as previous combo at around 1.64 DS
02:34:288 (4,7,8,9,10) - These stacks seems difficult and hidden. It really will cause the deaths of many, I'd follow the same pattern you had at the start of the map, with something like this Example I thought this was okay, I did stacks previously in this part, and the pause helps with the difficulty.

[Insane]

Love the way the anti jumps were changed. Feels a lot better
00:48:235 (1) - Sliderwhistle?
I don't see anything that would be of an issue to me so it's fine.

I thoroughly took 2 hours to fully examine this to all of your previous maps. So I hope this mod will help; I do always wish for you to succeed my friend. These are just what seems to me like easy fixes, but don't take my word for it, it's your map and your choice. I have yet to achieve anything, but one day I will ♥‿♥

Wafu

Wafu wrote:


Mod as requested

Red - Unrankable
Blue - Highly recommended
Black - Suggestion
General


  1. Because the kiai times are inconsistent within the difficulties, I think it should end on downbeat, because a new part always starts on it. For example 01:28:235 should be end on all diffs, not 01:27:709, applies to all kiai times.
  2. Some tags regarding the song would be appropriate, I recommend adding 'Powerless' as he composed the song, you might also add his alias 無力P and MuryokuP, but at least Powerless, as representing on the album shall be added.
  3. I also thought the album shall be added, but then I realized the album name is just 「N」, so it might be maybe too short.
  4. The artist's name should be ナノ and the romanised one should be nano. Firstly, he is japanese artist, so he should use his japanese name, for more confirmation, he lists himself on other albums as ナノ and also calls him like that on the official website, he only has 'nano' on CD labels if he prints his logo there, because only his logo actually is romanised. ナノ is also used on his official twitter, youtube and facebook, so it is definitely the right form of usage.
  5. It will also be appropriate if you add FlyingDog to the tags as it is the main publisher, but that's not extremely important.

Normal


  1. 00:36:261 (2) - I know you wanted to keep symmetry in this pattern, but the problem is there is no significant sound on 00:36:656, thus this slider does not make much sense. In my opinion, it is fine if you just shorten it to 1/2 slider and form it to normal straight slider, eventually you can rotate it.
  2. 01:32:445 (1) - Just a little issue, but reversing the slider with CTRL+J definitely improves the flow from both left and right side, currently the slider would always aim against the flow, so this is probably more intelligent usage.
  3. 04:06:788 (2) - Same issue as 00:36:261 (2)
I liked this diff, only thing I did not like was just mapping notes which were not in the song, or were not very significant, that means style over following song, what's not very proper choice, but anyway, it happened only few times, so I think you it shall be okay.


Advanced


  1. Increase the AR to 6, because the combination of this BPM and stacks can make really mess and confusion if you see that many approach circles at once.
  2. 01:51:393 (1,2,3) - This is one of not many things I wanted to talk about in this diff. Also applies to 01:51:919 (3,4,1) obviously, as it is the same pattern. Within most of your map, the lead to next object is mostly defined by the shape of the patterns - where does the slider point to, there is another object, but in this part, the way player is forced to play seems a lot unnatural. I mean you have to play against the flow and you have to make a really sharp movement with cursor, thus the movement will not be so accurate. Considering you needed to make a diff what would fill in the spread, it shall be pleasure for newbies to play when it is just above normal but under hard, but maybe you might feel it as a weird point of view.
  3. 02:46:130 (1,2) - A little issue, but you might consider fixing the blanket.
  4. 03:09:288 (1) - The start of the slider has a bit unsymmetrical shape and it looks like it is more flat on one side, please move the 2nd point in the center of 1st and 3rd point (321;293)
What to say, nice difficulty.


Hard


  1. Increase the AR to 8 for the same reason as Advanced, it really messes in some parts.
  2. 00:25:735 (3,4,5,6) - As this happened only once, I am going to say it. You used, you used 2 stacks really in the time, but one is 1/2 and the second is 1/4 so in haste, many players will miss on this place, because they will tend to play 1/4 instead of 1/2 or reversed, thus I recommend making some difference between 1/2 and 1/4 stacks when they are both visible (also one of reasons to increase the AR), for example you can put a low DS on 1/2 stacks, like you did on 01:27:709 (1,1), but that was 1/2. The combination of BPM and stacking notes with different divisor can make just more confusion, so it is better to differ them if both types of stacks are visible.
Nothing important to mention.


Insane


  1. I think you should increase the HP since it is the same as previous difficulty and also, when playing, even after missing some notes, I felt like the HP is not changing. There must be a gap within the diffs.
  2. Here I am going to mod hitsounding too, as Insane is difficulty where it is able to have the most hitsounds and other diffs can just be based on it. Anyway, just on the start, there is 50% volume, then it changes on 30%, because there is a finish, I actually agree on muting finish sound a bit to make it not so loud, but here, I doubt it is much audiable, so I recommend using at least 40%, but the bigger problem is the inherited point on 00:23:103. You increased the volume to 60% while the music is exactly the identical volume as the part before the finish, so either change the first point's volume to 60%, or the second to 50%, however I feel the first option is better, I would personally increase the volume of both parts to 70% so the hitsounds are really audiable. For the finish, it does not emphasize anything in song - There is a cymbal in the song, but you actually muted it so it is less audiable than regular hitnormal, so you should increase it to volume so it sounds a bit louder than regular notes, else it is insensible.
  3. 00:35:998 - Similar as above, but you kept the low volume for both finish notes and regular ones, that again means there are the notes of the same volume in music, but you mute them, even if they had different volume before in the map. Easy solution might be adding louder timing point on 00:36:788 to make it sensible with previous part.
  4. 00:53:498 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - This part seems to be fine, but if you listen to the song, you can hear there is no sound at all on 00:53:761 apart from voice, but it is the same volume as others, so your hitsounds make a feel like there actually is a drum, but there's only voice, so you should decrease the volume just on this one note, but put it back to previous volume on 00:53:893, because the drums start here again. Second solution could be using soft sampleset just on this note, but still I feel it would be too loud. Third possible solution is probably the best - Map the drums in this part. It is better to map the thing you are mapping just right after it, combining voice-mapping and drum-mapping might be fine if they fit together and have similar rhythm, but firstly, the voice is out of the offset in this song (that's becuase drummers are more accurate about rhythm than singers, obviously) and additionally you cannot tell when are the voices ending, becuase those are fading down slower than drums, so I think you should follow guitar and drums as you did in the most of map, in this case, it would look like this.
  5. 01:34:551 (7,8) - Another similar part as before. If you listen to how you mapped 01:32:445 (1,2,3,4,5,6), you can hear it obviously, you mapped a drums and bass, but afterwards, you just ignore it, start the slider on 01:34:945, instead of 01:35:077, which would be a better choice, since now you can hear just snare in the middle of the slider, so I recommend adding 2 circles, on 01:35:077 and 01:35:209 instead of this slider, obivously the first with normal sampleset and second with finish and make them into the stack as 01:35:472 (1,2), because they use the same drum sequence, so it fits if they are mapped the same way.
  6. 02:54:551 (1,2,3) - Yes, there is a problem with rhythm, I agree with mapping vocals in previous part, because there was no other song, but then after piano came in, you started to map it on 02:51:919 (4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6), then mapping the vocal and came back to piano on 02:56:130 (4,5,1,2,3,4,5) etc. You should remove 02:54:945 (2) and put circle on 02:55:077 just like screenshot below. The reason is the change from piano to vocals and then back to piano. If there is instrument, you should follow that, because the voice is not on 02:54:945, you cannot exactly tell where it is, because it is not accurate, he is singer, he does not hold the rhythm the best. So basically his voice starts somewhere on 02:54:989, not 02:54:945, obviously, I used 1/12 divisor so I am near, but it is still obviously out. If you start to map piano, keep it over voice mainly in such parts, also you mapped only one slider of voice here, so I do not see a special reason for it. I do not think it is good to make 1/4 spaces between sliders just to make it creative, when there is not a sound which would deserve the mapping, instead it might be better if you had a jump here which also followed the music properly.
  7. 03:03:630 (3) - Nothing big, but there is nothing in music, not the piano, drum nor the voice, so I recommend to delete this note and keep just 1/2 stack.
  8. 03:11:788 (2,3) - Also similar to 02:54:551 (1,2,3), you followed guitar before, and then started to follow inaccurately the voice, while guitar on 03:11:919 might have been followed way better with adding circle on 03:11:919 and making 03:12:182 (3) end on 03:12:709.
Well mapped anyway.


Conclusion: Rankable

I kind of liked the map, the style choice was fine spread will also not be much problem, but main thing I did not like was the rhythm following. Sometimes you followed voice over other instruments, I might sound like I do not like following voice, but the problem is every voice is not accurate, it is always a bit out, while other instruments are mostly fine, that was one of reasons why did I not like the rhythm, but the bigger problem was its combination. You followed the voices in some parts just because there were 1/4 gaps (which were not even 1/4, but a bit later than 1/4). I do not know why do some mappers feel it is creative, but anyway, it was not appropriate as you was coming from instrument to voice and back. There were some parts, where following the voice was the only choice so it was fine, but I think it is really pity to ignore the main instruments, thus making some hitsounds ignored and having non-accurate rhythm and some errors in consistency of following. Anyway I pretty much enjoyed the map, this was only thing bothering me. When I get the kd, I will give you a star.

Good luck with your map :3

If there is some misunderstanding, feel free to PM me in-game, eventually through forums and I can explain anything what was not obvious.

@Wafu Fixed everything really! Thanks so much, about the hitsounds on insane, I thought they were okay. following certain sounds for certain parts is strange, only if they're really unique I'll probably change so only a certain hitsound plays!

@Kocari : Thanks for your time, although I rejected many of your suggestions.
Cerulean Veyron
Hi, Tari-BAT! Requested via PM <3 Sorry for being late :''<

Perfect map... a chance of my mod to be useless.
[> General <]
  1. - A cool thing is that there's no .osb file to take care of those SB in the beatmap's folder... gg
[> Normal <]
  1. 00:35:077 (2,1,2,3,4) - Why did the spacing changed here? You were using 1.0x all the way. Or you're just trying to make the circles visible?
  2. 01:31:393 (2,3,1) - Distance spacing~
  3. 01:42:972 (3,1) - Swap NC? not really important.
  4. 02:13:498 (3,3) - Cool overlap.
  5. 02:39:288 (3,1) - Almost nazi, Distance spacing~
  6. 02:40:866 (2) - Slider's point is out of grid. Move it in?
  7. 02:50:340 (1) - ^
  8. 03:59:814 (1,2,3,4,1) - Imperfect star formation, try to rotate a little.
  9. - Nothing much i can say, this diff is great! some spacing issues found, hitsounds are good~
[> Advanced <]
  1. 00:48:498 (2,3) - Fine, but i prefer this rhythm to emphasize the song track > http://puu.sh/dMBbB/82b7203e6a.png
  2. 00:54:024 (3,4) - Distance spacing, you could've just did it before, instead of focusing on symmetries.
  3. 01:03:893 (4,5) - ^, or on purpose?
  4. 01:11:393 (1) - Tail point is out of grid.
  5. 01:15:603 (1,2) - Recorrect your blanket here, or not planning to make one?
  6. 01:17:709 (3) - Add NC, new track.
  7. 01:37:709 (4) - Same as 01:11:393 (1) -, a little close to off-screen.
  8. 01:54:419 (4,5) - Same as 00:54:024 (3,4) -... you were using 1.4x spacing... :''<
  9. 02:08:630 (4,5) - Pretty nazi, tiny overlap.
  10. 02:34:551 (4,5,1) - You should've followed those hi-hat sounds in the song track. I have two preference for this rhythm > One / Two
  11. 03:02:972 (3) - Add NC, new track.
  12. 03:21:393 (6,1) - Likely nazi, recorrect the blanket here.
  13. 03:27:051 (4,5) - Same as 00:54:024 (3,4) -
  14. 03:40:866 (3) - Add NC, new track...
  15. 03:49:288 (1,2) - Same as 00:54:024 (3,4) -
  16. - You're good, but when making symmetry, you don't check up the spacing. Also, found other minor issues for you to check. Well, Great!
[> Hard <]
  1. - hi kibblol
  2. 00:47:709 (5,6,1) - The spacing here looks too big for a Hard. Since it's a triplet, and done on purpose, it's up to you.
  3. 01:01:919 (1) - Remove NC, still in the same track and just a jump. SV is still the same, so why add NC?
  4. 01:02:709 (5) - Ctrl + G? nicer playstyle :3
  5. 01:03:498 (2,5) - Awesome overlap.
  6. 01:10:340 (1) - Same as 01:01:919 (1) -, or purpose?
  7. 02:10:077 (7) - Ctrl + G?
  8. - k tari
  9. 02:39:288 (3,4) - Probably nazi, move these two sliders to x:284|y:196 for square recorrection.
  10. 02:50:340 (1,2) - Recorrect blanket, or not planning to?
  11. 03:09:288 (1,2) - ^
  12. 03:18:630 (3,4) - It'd be smooth if these two sliders can double blanket.
  13. 03:27:972 (5,6,1) - Since it's a triplet, equal the spacing here.
  14. 03:34:024 (6) - Ctrl + G? The cursor will aim like symmetric zigzag with that flow.
  15. 03:38:761 (1) - Tail point out of grid.
  16. - kibblol, i choose you!!
  17. 03:58:235 (2,3,6,7) - Awesome overlap.
  18. - Seriously perfect! I can't tell more but some nazi subjects ;~; Great job to both of you!
[> Insane <]
  1. - Took me an hour to find few issues, perfect diff!
  2. 00:24:814 (9) - Tail point out of grid.
  3. 00:31:393 (1,2,3) - Recorrect the blanket on the wavy slider.
  4. 00:34:156 (2) - Same as 00:24:814 (9) -
  5. - I don't think i can mention all of those out-of-grid slider points. To avoid myself from making big mod, try finding yourself, or keep some if you're intentionally want them.
  6. - Btw, cool Insane!! I tried testplaying, and it was fun with those SV changes and jumps, but can't fc >w> lol. Anyway, i praise you for making this diff inspiring and unexpectedly great :)

Looks like i'm done here modding this map, nice song anyway~
Goodluck!
Rakuen
As requested!

Legend
Default = Normal mods
Blue = Strongly recommended
Red = Unrankable issue
Pink = Will be discussed if not changed

Normal

  1. 00:27:182 (1) - DS?
  2. 01:32:445 (1) - , 01:34:024 (2) - Owh the jump
  3. 01:34:551 (3) - NC? (constant)
  4. 01:42:972 (3) - Swap NC 01:44:024 (1) - ?

Advanced

  1. Try AR6
  2. 00:37:709 (1) - This looks like 1/4 :\

Call me back! (look at Gray's mods too~)
Kibbleru
hey fixed the stack readability thing, the NC are on purpose tho to help read the jump better

SPOILER
osu file format v13

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AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 103761
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Soft
StackLeniency: 0.7
Mode: 0
LetterboxInBreaks: 1
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[Editor]
DistanceSpacing: 1.2
BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 4
TimelineZoom: 1.5

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TitleUnicode:Silence
Artist:nano
ArtistUnicode:ナノ
Creator:Tari
Version:Hard
Source:
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CircleSize:4
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380,160,240472,1,0,0:0:0:0:
380,160,240735,1,2,1:2:0:0:
304,180,240866,2,0,L|239:168,1,64.9999976158143,8|0,0:1|0:0,0:0:0:0:
196,232,241130,2,0,L|131:220,1,64.9999976158143,0|2,0:0|2:0,0:0:0:0:
60,124,241393,2,0,P|88:109|121:106,1,64.9999976158143,8|2,0:1|1:2,0:0:0:0:
180,56,241656,2,0,P|210:65|243:68,1,64.9999976158143,2|0,0:2|0:0,0:0:0:0:
303,20,241919,6,0,P|272:76|270:140,2,129.999995231629,4|2|8,0:0|0:2|0:1,0:0:0:0:
376,56,242577,2,0,L|504:74,1,129.999995231629,2|8,0:0|0:1,0:0:0:0:
492,196,242972,2,0,P|467:175|436:164,1,64.9999976158143,8|2,0:1|0:2,0:0:0:0:
368,200,243235,2,0,P|335:204|303:209,1,64.9999976158143,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
224,208,243498,2,0,P|191:203|159:198,1,64.9999976158143,8|2,0:1|2:0,0:0:0:0:
88,164,243761,2,0,P|57:174|32:195,1,64.9999976158143,8|0,0:1|0:0,0:0:0:0:
112,268,244024,6,0,P|74:320|71:384,2,129.999995231629,4|2|8,0:0|0:2|0:1,0:0:0:0:
180,308,244682,2,0,B|212:296|240:304|240:304|260:292|260:292|305:292,1,129.999995231629,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
368,340,245077,1,10,0:0:0:0:
368,340,245209,1,0,0:0:0:0:
432,300,245340,1,0,0:0:0:0:
432,300,245472,1,0,0:0:0:0:
420,224,245603,2,0,L|492:208,1,64.9999976158143,8|2,0:1|0:0,0:0:0:0:
499,131,245866,2,0,P|485:103|458:85,1,64.9999976158143,8|0,0:1|0:0,0:0:0:0:
336,128,246130,6,0,L|252:112,1,64.9999976158143,6|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
204,156,246393,1,0,0:0:0:0:
204,156,246524,2,0,P|216:223|232:292,1,129.999995231629,2|10,0:0|0:2,0:0:0:0:
300,248,246919,1,0,0:0:0:0:
300,248,247051,2,0,P|344:293|407:294,1,129.999995231629,6|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
464,196,247445,6,0,P|433:201|392:212,1,64.9999976158143,8|2,0:1|0:0,0:0:0:0:
360,112,247709,2,0,P|327:105|288:96,1,64.9999976158143,8|2,0:1|0:0,0:0:0:0:
300,212,247972,2,0,P|269:222|238:234,1,64.9999976158143,8|2,0:1|0:0,0:0:0:0:
191,107,248235,6,0,P|161:97|131:85,1,64.9999976158143,4|2,0:0|0:2,0:0:0:0:
20,144,248498,2,0,P|50:154|80:166,1,64.9999976158143,8|2,0:0|0:2,0:0:0:0:
120,236,248761,1,2,0:0:0:0:
120,236,248893,1,2,0:0:0:0:
20,328,249024,6,0,P|50:317|80:305,1,64.9999976158143,4|4,0:0|0:2,0:0:0:0:
220,332,249288,2,0,P|189:342|159:354,1,64.9999976158143,8|2,0:0|0:2,0:0:0:0:
Topic Starter
Tari
Gray Veyron

Gray Veyron wrote:

Hi, Tari-BAT! Requested via PM <3 Sorry for being late :''<

Perfect map... a chance of my mod to be useless.
[> General <]
  1. - A cool thing is that there's no .osb file to take care of those SB in the beatmap's folder... gg
[> Normal <]
  1. 00:35:077 (2,1,2,3,4) - Why did the spacing changed here? You were using 1.0x all the way. Or you're just trying to make the circles visible?
  2. 01:31:393 (2,3,1) - Distance spacing~
  3. 01:42:972 (3,1) - Swap NC? not really important.
  4. 02:13:498 (3,3) - Cool overlap.
  5. 02:39:288 (3,1) - Almost nazi, Distance spacing~
  6. 02:40:866 (2) - Slider's point is out of grid. Move it in?
  7. 02:50:340 (1) - ^
  8. 03:59:814 (1,2,3,4,1) - Imperfect star formation, try to rotate a little.
  9. - Nothing much i can say, this diff is great! some spacing issues found, hitsounds are good~
[> Advanced <]
  1. 00:48:498 (2,3) - Fine, but i prefer this rhythm to emphasize the song track > http://puu.sh/dMBbB/82b7203e6a.png
  2. 00:54:024 (3,4) - Distance spacing, you could've just did it before, instead of focusing on symmetries.
  3. 01:03:893 (4,5) - ^, or on purpose?
  4. 01:11:393 (1) - Tail point is out of grid.
  5. 01:15:603 (1,2) - Recorrect your blanket here, or not planning to make one?
  6. 01:17:709 (3) - Add NC, new track.
  7. 01:37:709 (4) - Same as 01:11:393 (1) -, a little close to off-screen.
  8. 01:54:419 (4,5) - Same as 00:54:024 (3,4) -... you were using 1.4x spacing... :''<
  9. 02:08:630 (4,5) - Pretty nazi, tiny overlap.
  10. 02:34:551 (4,5,1) - You should've followed those hi-hat sounds in the song track. I have two preference for this rhythm > One / Two Nope, the music there is like different from the rest in this entire section, its good to have some change here.
  11. 03:02:972 (3) - Add NC, new track. I thought this was okay, keeps combo's nicely consistent.
  12. 03:21:393 (6,1) - Likely nazi, recorrect the blanket here.
  13. 03:27:051 (4,5) - Same as 00:54:024 (3,4) -
  14. 03:40:866 (3) - Add NC, new track...
  15. 03:49:288 (1,2) - Same as 00:54:024 (3,4) -
  16. - You're good, but when making symmetry, you don't check up the spacing. Also, found other minor issues for you to check. Well, Great!
[> Hard <]
  1. - hi kibblol
  2. 00:47:709 (5,6,1) - The spacing here looks too big for a Hard. Since it's a triplet, and done on purpose, it's up to you.
  3. 01:01:919 (1) - Remove NC, still in the same track and just a jump. SV is still the same, so why add NC?
  4. 01:02:709 (5) - Ctrl + G? nicer playstyle :3
  5. 01:03:498 (2,5) - Awesome overlap.
  6. 01:10:340 (1) - Same as 01:01:919 (1) -, or purpose?
  7. 02:10:077 (7) - Ctrl + G?
  8. - k tari
  9. 02:39:288 (3,4) - Probably nazi, move these two sliders to x:284|y:196 for square recorrection.
  10. 02:50:340 (1,2) - Recorrect blanket, or not planning to?
  11. 03:09:288 (1,2) - ^
  12. 03:18:630 (3,4) - It'd be smooth if these two sliders can double blanket. keep, personally the flow is fine.
  13. 03:27:972 (5,6,1) - Since it's a triplet, equal the spacing here.
  14. 03:34:024 (6) - Ctrl + G? The cursor will aim like symmetric zigzag with that flow.
  15. 03:38:761 (1) - Tail point out of grid.
  16. - kibblol, i choose you!!
  17. 03:58:235 (2,3,6,7) - Awesome overlap.
  18. - Seriously perfect! I can't tell more but some nazi subjects ;~; Great job to both of you!
[> Insane <]
  1. - Took me an hour to find few issues, perfect diff!
  2. 00:24:814 (9) - Tail point out of grid.
  3. 00:31:393 (1,2,3) - Recorrect the blanket on the wavy slider.
  4. 00:34:156 (2) - Same as 00:24:814 (9) -
  5. - I don't think i can mention all of those out-of-grid slider points. To avoid myself from making big mod, try finding yourself, or keep some if you're intentionally want them.
  6. - Btw, cool Insane!! I tried testplaying, and it was fun with those SV changes and jumps, but can't fc >w> lol. Anyway, i praise you for making this diff inspiring and unexpectedly great :)

Looks like i'm done here modding this map, nice song anyway~
Goodluck!


Fixed most things thanks!, and double checked for off-grid slider / circle stuff. They should be okay now.

@Rakuen : All Fixed.
Rakuen
Bubbled
Gaia
wtf i didn't even mod this yet
so fast wow
Kibbleru

Gaia wrote:

wtf i didn't even mod this yet
so fast wow
can u mod my map instead then
Mei

Gaia wrote:

wtf i didn't even mod this yet
so fast wow
Sonnyc
Recheck.

Normal:

-- Use stack leniency 5 if you agree removing the stack appearing at 03:18:498 (2,1).
-- Consider OD 3.

Hard:

01:52:314 (4) - Adding New combo will definitely be better in reading the distance.
03:30:735 (2) - Grid up.

Insane:

01:05:998 (3,4) - Make this a 1/1 slider to follow the vocal better.
01:36:130 (4) - Random spacing feels less effective.
02:32:709 (7,1) - I feel this anti-jump is confusing, and needs a fix. Fine to keep if you think players are capable enough to read this.
02:41:130 (7,1) - ^
Topic Starter
Tari

Sonnyc wrote:

Recheck.

Normal:

-- Use stack leniency 5 if you agree removing the stack appearing at 03:18:498 (2,1). No, the symmetry at 03:19:814 (1,2,3) - would be ruined.
-- Consider OD 3.

Hard:

01:52:314 (4) - Adding New combo will definitely be better in reading the distance.
03:30:735 (2) - Grid up.

Insane:

01:05:998 (3,4) - Make this a 1/1 slider to follow the vocal better. preferable, I find the pattern plays nicely and okay, slider 4 is slider, and even though has no vocals, the leniency there will make it easy to click.
01:36:130 (4) - Random spacing feels less effective.

02:32:709 (7,1) - I feel this anti-jump is confusing, and needs a fix. Fine to keep if you think players are capable enough to read this. the instrument sounds are quite obvious here, and I want to emphasize them. and this is hardest diff, so I don't think they are way out of the difficulty scale.
02:41:130 (7,1) - ^


Fixed other things : 03:55:340 (8) - Made hitsounds consistent to 00:24:814 (9) - here,
03:50:866 (1) changed combo color of slider to orange, so the sv change is more readable, and to match 01:27:709 (1) -
also made widescreen support and letter boxes consistent.
Sonnyc
Ranked~
Cerulean Veyron
GZ \:D/
HabiHolic
OMG!! Nano!!!

Gratz Tari!!!
-Nanaka-
:oops:
guineaQ
www
AllStar12
Congrats Tari!! :D
Myxo
Congratz pros owo
scanter
nice job !
Winnie
Should of checked out sonny cs post a while ago wtf but hey congrats. Just the other day was showing this off in multiplayer. Let's see what they think about it now that it's ranked haha
Hinsvar
I once tried making an AR10 Extra for this song. I failed.

Congrats!
WingSilent
Well it's a lot different than my version of this song, but i like it (in some parts)
I have different breaks btw, wich starts on voice without heavy drums. :D

I think it's a nice map. Congratz for qualified. :)
Rakuen
Grats
Kibbleru
yay
Shiratu
Grats, awesome map. <3
Cocolites
>.<
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