neonat wrote:

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Nardo's Futsuu

00:13:696 - add a note? It's just like 01:27:174 (146) Nope, vocal is absent there.
00:35:218 (34) - that piano lower pitch is really quite clear and distinct, change to d? fixed
00:50:435 (61) - change to d I followed the piano there.

Good Luck

mintong89 wrote:

Hi, mod as your request. Sorry for waiting!

[General]
Disable "Widescreen Support"? This thing isn't used at Taiko.
00:17:826 - You should add a red line at here, the rhythm tick (beat stanza) changes at here. fixed

Other seem fine.
Good Luck!

mintong89 wrote:

Hi, mod as your request. Sorry for waiting!

[stu's Oni]

00:07:392 - Add a note because there's still have piano sound at here?
00:31:739 (87) - D because of cymbal?

Other seem fine.
Good Luck!

1. i think you can reduce the volume on 00:31:739 - ~ 00:44:782 -

1. 00:32:609 (18) - actually, this note is not really need, because 00:39:565 - you didn't add note , also i think it would make the spread better
2. 00:34:348 (19) - ^also make the spread more even
3. 00:41:305 (4) - ^
4. make the spinner end on 01:33:478 - instead 01:33:369 -

1. 00:32:392 (29) - 由於這一段muzu和oni的spread不是很好,所以必須把kantan~muzu的難度降低,把這個note 刪掉吧
2. 00:42:608 - 和00:43:478 - 加個note吧然後把00:41:739 (43) - 刪掉,因為muzu在這裡note的密度有提高的情況
3. 01:33:369 - 跟kantan一樣結束點調到這裡

1. 00:07:392 - ~ 00:13:696 - this part is not satisfied to me, try this to make consistency with former part
2. 00:37:609 (2) - move to 00:37:825 - would be more fit the vocal
3. 01:17:609 (141) - change to d and move to 01:17:825 - to make a consistency with 01:07:392 (97,98,99,100,101,102,103,104,105,106,107,108,109,110) -
4. 01:33:369 - same as kantan

1. 00:36:957 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - try to reduce this pattern, it sounds not good to me example
2. 00:39:021 (9,13,15,16) - remove them and change 00:39:892 (14) - to d sounds more clear to me
3. 01:33:369 - same as kantan

1. 00:42:825 - 這裡加個note,感覺這裡跟muzu的難度差太多了
2. 00:43:260 - ^
3. 這首做得很好=w=b

qoot8123 wrote:

Hi

[ Nardo's Futsuu]

1. 00:32:392 (29) - 由於這一段muzu和oni的spread不是很好,所以必須把kantan~muzu的難度降低,把這個note 刪掉吧 fixed
2. 00:42:608 - 和00:43:478 - 加個note吧然後把00:41:739 (43) - 刪掉,因為muzu在這裡note的密度有提高的情況 fixed
3. 01:33:369 - 跟kantan一樣結束點調到這裡 Done.

the overall is fine, but some pattern on oni should be improved especially peace part , and the diff spread on 00:31:739 - ~ 00:44:782 - is a bit uneven
Hope you can improve this set more , i will recheck if it is improved , good luck !:)

qoot8123 wrote:

Hi

[General]

1. i think you can reduce the volume on 00:31:739 - ~ 00:44:782 - okay.This part=(volume)80→70%

[ Kantan]

1. 00:32:609 (18) - actually, this note is not really need, because 00:39:565 - you didn't add note , also i think it would make the spread better fixed
2. 00:34:348 (19) - ^also make the spread more even fixed
3. 00:41:305 (4) - ^ fixed
4. make the spinner end on 01:33:478 - instead 01:33:369 - fixed

[ Nardo's Futsuu]

1. 00:32:392 (29) - 由於這一段muzu和oni的spread不是很好,所以必須把kantan~muzu的難度降低,把這個note 刪掉吧
2. 00:42:608 - 和00:43:478 - 加個note吧然後把00:41:739 (43) - 刪掉,因為muzu在這裡note的密度有提高的情況
3. 01:33:369 - 跟kantan一樣結束點調到這裡

[ Muzukashii]

1. 00:07:392 - ~ 00:13:696 - this part is not satisfied to me, try this to make consistency with former part nice idea! fixed
2. 00:37:609 (2) - move to 00:37:825 - would be more fit the vocal fixed
3. 01:17:609 (141) - change to d and move to 01:17:825 - to make a consistency with 01:07:392 (97,98,99,100,101,102,103,104,105,106,107,108,109,110) - fixed
4. 01:33:369 - same as kantan fixed

[ Oni]

1. 00:36:957 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - try to reduce this pattern, it sounds not good to me example good~.fixed
2. 00:39:021 (9,13,15,16) - remove them and change 00:39:892 (14) - to d sounds more clear to me okay.fixed
3. 01:33:369 - same as kantan fixed

[ stu's Oni]

1. 00:42:825 - 這裡加個note,感覺這裡跟muzu的難度差太多了
2. 00:43:260 - ^
3. 這首做得很好=w=b

the overall is fine, but some pattern on oni should be improved especially peace part , and the diff spread on 00:31:739 - ~ 00:44:782 - is a bit uneven
Hope you can improve this set more , i will recheck if it is improved , good luck !:)

qoot8123 wrote:

Hi

[ stu's Oni]

1. 00:42:825 - 這裡加個note,感覺這裡跟muzu的難度差太多了
2. 00:43:260 - ^
3. 這首做得很好=w=b

the overall is fine, but some pattern on oni should be improved especially peace part , and the diff spread on 00:31:739 - ~ 00:44:782 - is a bit uneven
Hope you can improve this set more , i will recheck if it is improved , good luck !:)

1. 01:06:521 k

1. 00:13:044 k , 低音不明顯
2. 00:19:999 d

1. 00:12:174 k , pitch higher than previous note
2. 00:31:521 could remove
3. 01:00:978 ^

1. 00:09:348 這個可以移除 , 若不移除 00:11:087 這裡應該也加上相同音符然後移除後面的音符( 00:11:305 )
2. 00:34:673 高音， k 合適
3. 01:07:282 k
4. 01:19:456 k , 這裡是低音 高音在它之後 ( 01:19:565 )

1. Fine map, no comments

mliencheng wrote:

Mod from PM mod request by stu00608

[ Kantan]

1. 01:06:521 k fixed

[ Nardo's Futsuu]

1. 00:13:044 k , 低音不明顯
2. 00:19:999 d

[ Muzukashii]

1. 00:12:174 k , pitch higher than previous note fixed
2. 00:31:521 could remove keep
3. 01:00:978 ^ keep

[ stu's Oni]

1. 00:09:348 這個可以移除 , 若不移除 00:11:087 這裡應該也加上相同音符然後移除後面的音符( 00:11:305 )
2. 00:34:673 高音， k 合適
3. 01:07:282 k
4. 01:19:456 k , 這裡是低音 高音在它之後 ( 01:19:565 )

[ Oni]

1. Fine map, no comments

Good mapset , good luck for rank !

mliencheng wrote:

Mod from PM mod request by stu00608

[ Nardo's Futsuu]

1. 00:13:044 k , 低音不明顯 Retained for a similar hitsound pattern as 01:26:521 -
2. 00:19:999 d fixed

Good mapset , good luck for rank !

mliencheng wrote:

Mod from PM mod request by stu00608

[ stu's Oni]

1. 00:09:348 這個可以移除 , 若不移除 00:11:087 這裡應該也加上相同音符然後移除後面的音符( 00:11:305 )
2. 00:34:673 高音， k 合適
3. 01:07:282 k
4. 01:19:456 k , 這裡是低音 高音在它之後 ( 01:19:565 )

1. Fine map, no comments

Good mapset , good luck for rank !

Jerry wrote:

Here's my mod~ Sorry it took so long!

If you have any questions regarding my mod, feel free to message me anytime :3

• [General]
  There are quite a number of unsnapped notes in the mapset, please Resnap all Notes for every difficulty.
  
  
  
  The kiai times are also unsnapped, change the kiai times (green lines) positions like this :
  01:01:305 - move to 01:01:304 -
  01:27:392 - move to 01:27:391 -

• [Nardo's Futsuu]

1. Fix the unsnapped issues that I pointed out in the general tab above. fixed

That's all from me, good luck!

Jerry wrote:

Here's my mod~ Sorry it took so long!

If you have any questions regarding my mod, feel free to message me anytime :3

• [General]
  There are quite a number of unsnapped notes in the mapset, please Resnap all Notes for every difficulty.
  
  
  
  The kiai times are also unsnapped, change the kiai times (green lines) positions like this :
  01:01:305 - move to 01:01:304 - All diff fixed
  01:27:392 - move to 01:27:391 - All diff fixed

• [Kantan]

1. Fix the unsnapped issues that I pointed out in the general tab above.
   
   Nice and simple Kantan :3

• [Nardo's Futsuu]

1. Fix the unsnapped issues that I pointed out in the general tab above.

• [Muzukashii]

1. Fix the unsnapped issues that I pointed out in the general tab above.
   
   
2. 00:39:566 (6,7) - CTRL+G? Follow vocal pitch for this fixed

• [Oni]

1. Fix the unsnapped issues that I pointed out in the general tab above.
   
   
2. 00:23:044 (29,30,31,32,33,34) - This part sounds abit weird >< Try changing it to k ddk k? It makes the rhythm better :
   fixed
   
   
3. 00:29:674 - kddk here makes the rhythm sound strange, move this don to 00:30:325 -? fixed
   
   
4. 00:30:978 - Delete this note, can focus more on drum sound of music at 00:31:086 - fixed

• [stu's Oni]

1. Fix the unsnapped issues that I pointed out in the general tab above.
   
   
2. 00:11:305 (34) - Move this note to 00:11:087 - so that there is a consistency of rhythm with 00:09:348 (29) -
   
   
3. 00:27:499 - Add kat here to maintain the consistency of rhythm with 00:25:653 (46,47,48,49,50) -

That's all from me, good luck!

1. 幽閉サテライト (Yuuhei Satellite)
2. Mayumi Morinaga/Morinaga Mayumi (senya's name, use former for our way of Romanisation, use latter otherwise, it doesn't matter)
3. 森永真由美 (Japanese of Mayumi Morinaga)
4. Iceon
5. Kamase Tora + かませ虎 (Romanised + Japanese) (both Iceon and Kamase were part of the composition of the song)
6. Kaleidoscope (album name I assume, idk about this one)
7. 東方プロジェクト + 東方Project + Project (because technically the name of the series is Touhou Project, these are just the relevant tags for it)

Dainesl wrote:

Might mod this soon, consider this a possible placeholder.

In case I don't, I'll just pop a few tags here:

1. 幽閉サテライト (Yuuhei Satellite)
2. Mayumi Morinaga/Morinaga Mayumi (senya's name, use former for our way of Romanisation, use latter otherwise, it doesn't matter)
3. 森永真由美 (Japanese of Mayumi Morinaga)
4. Iceon
5. Kamase Tora + かませ虎 (Romanised + Japanese) (both Iceon and Kamase were part of the composition of the song)
6. Kaleidoscope (album name I assume, idk about this one)
7. 東方プロジェクト + 東方Project + Project (because technically the name of the series is Touhou Project, these are just the relevant tags for it)

no KD please.

Jerry wrote:

• [stu's Oni]

1. Fix the unsnapped issues that I pointed out in the general tab above.
   
   
2. 00:11:305 (34) - Move this note to 00:11:087 - so that there is a consistency of rhythm with 00:09:348 (29) -
   
   
3. 00:27:499 - Add kat here to maintain the consistency of rhythm with 00:25:653 (46,47,48,49,50) -

That's all from me, good luck!

mingmichael wrote:

ming comes as requested. sorry for the lateness @.@

Red ~> unrakable issue, must be changed
Blue ~> highly suggested, consider to use it
Black ~> suggestion, just free to choose it

[ stu's Oni]

General

☞ okie

Notes Structure

☞ okay~

Notes

• delete 00:56:195 - and 00:57:065 - and also move 00:57:934 - to 00:58:043 - and change 00:58:043 - to be don. it doesn't need any 4-plets again because it will make the 1/1 vocal unclear on 00:56:086 - and 00:56:956 - . after you delete them, try to change those notes like this :


it would follow the instruments & vocals perfectly with the usage of doublet notes

====================

okay that's all from me. Futsuu looks nice
i'll leave it to qoot since he put a star icon in his previous mod
goodluck~

mingmichael wrote:

ming comes as requested. sorry for the lateness @.@ npヽ(○´ｗ｀○)ﾉ

Red ~> unrakable issue, must be changed
Blue ~> highly suggested, consider to use it
Black ~> suggestion, just free to choose it


====================


[ Kantan]

General

☞ it would be better to change the volume on 00:01:740 - tobe 60% @.@ it's too loud for using 80% for the calm part there. anyway please change this for all of you difficulties all diff fixed

Notes Structure

☞ nice kantan nothing should to be mentioned here~

Notes

• it would be better to delete this one 00:25:652 - , to give a 4/1 break between 00:24:782 - and 00:26:521 - . anyway you did it too on 00:18:695 - and it's really wise usage of break there

• move 00:46:086 - to 00:46:956 - , it emphasizes the vocals perfectly on 00:46:956 - and a note there would emphasize the last vocal on 00:47:391 - perfectly too~

• move 00:49:565 - to 00:50:434 - and change those notes to be o o o, to make a mirror pattern between 00:46:521 - which is o o o (if you use my previous mod, you should do this)

• move 00:53:043 - to 00:53:912 - and change it to be kat there. it follows the vocals, like the previous mods above ^

• this note doesn't really need on 01:00:869 - . i know that you wanna to follow the vocals there or maybe you wanna to emphasize 01:01:304 - with a note on 01:00:869 - . okay, basically it's a nice idea, but not for the kantan one. try to make it simple, and it's all sounds on Kantan diffs which should be emphasized or followed by us

All fixed

====================


[ Muzukashii]

General

☞ OD 5 please. the current one will have a same one like Futsuu fixed

Notes Structure

☞ there are many of the usage of doublet notes (it looks like xx-xx or xxxx-xx notes) aren't managed well because actually they don't follow any particular sounds. for the example like : 00:02:174 - ~ 00:03:044 - ; 00:17:826 - ~ 00:22:608 - ; and many more. make it sense please, for the patterns. what sounds you are going to follow. well, i'll try to improve those pattern later in the Notes box

Notes

• move 00:02:392 - to 00:02:609 - . the reason has been explained in the Notes Structure box

• 00:04:566 - delete

• delete 00:18:043 - and move 00:18:478 - to 00:18:695 - , reason has been explained in the Notes Structure box

• move 00:19:782 - to 00:20:434 - and a kat on 00:20:217 -

• this one, 00:21:956 - please delete please. here, you must really consider for the usage of the breaks. you can compare with Nardo's Futsuu then. his diff has many 2/1 breaks and your Muzu just have a 1/2 break only with many notes. this will make your quality of your spread diffs worse because of this one

• 00:28:912 - delete too ^

• delete too 00:31:521 - , to give a 1/2 break after the triplet comes out before and to make a break for a new part which starts on 00:31:739 -

• delete this 00:44:130 - . it's just an additional note because there's not any vocals/instruments come out there

• wat? a 5-plet on 00:49:565 - until 00:50:434 - ? i don't get the usage of this note actually. actually it should be x-xxx pattern to follow the vocals/instruments. please delete this one 00:49:782 - and change the notes from 00:49:565 - until 00:50:434 - to be o ooo

• delete this too 00:51:086 - . nothing particular to be followed by. and also a break will be wiser there for the usage of the pattern

• again this one about the usage of the break. please delete this one 00:52:173 - , so it would have a 3/2 break there. it fits perfectly with the song too because the vocals have stropped on 00:51:956 - , and if you wanna to follow the instrument sounds on 00:52:173 - it's nice too, but consider again for the spread diff, especially the usage of the notes&breaks okay.but strange now.so more delete.

• no no, delete please 00:54:999 -

• move 01:01:956 - to 01:02:173 - , the reason has been explained in the Notes Structure box

• delete again 01:03:695 - , for the break & spread diff again

• delete 01:05:434 - . a ooo-triplet there would be nice with a break on 01:05:434 - , not a note

• delete this too 01:09:130 - , for the break again

• i think this one 01:09:999 - should be don, for the low one. how about you?

• and also a kat on 01:10:434 - imo

• no for the long patterns on 01:12:173 - until 01:15:217 - . it kills all Muzukashii players with this kind of pattern, a long 1/2 pattern with 1/4 triplets inside it. you should be wiser to decide what patterns you should use. here i have some suggestions :
delete 01:12:391 -
delete 01:14:021 - and 01:14:130 -
delete 01:15:108 - and change those five notes to be o o o o O
you will see this pattern if you follow those suggestions, from 01:11:739 - until 01:15:217 -


• delete again 01:17:825 - , remember for the breaks

• try to swap 01:18:043 - and 01:18:260 -

• delete this too 01:21:304 -

All fixed

====================


[ stu's Oni]

General

☞ okie

Notes Structure

☞ okay~

Notes

• delete 00:56:195 - and 00:57:065 - and also move 00:57:934 - to 00:58:043 - and change 00:58:043 - to be don. it doesn't need any 4-plets again because it will make the 1/1 vocal unclear on 00:56:086 - and 00:56:956 - . after you delete them, try to change those notes like this :


it would follow the instruments & vocals perfectly with the usage of doublet notes

====================


[ Oni]

General

☞ okie

Notes Structure

☞ okay~

Notes

• same like Muzu, move 00:02:392 - to 00:02:609 - fixed

• move 00:04:131 - to 00:04:348 - okay.but move→delete

====================


okay that's all from me. Futsuu looks nice
i'll leave it to qoot since he put a star icon in his previous mod
goodluck~

1. 00:59:355 - unsnapped green line on kantan , muzu and oni
2. 01:00:655 - ^

1. 00:29:131 (62,63,64,65,66,67,68,69,70,71,72,73,74,75,76,77,78,79,80,81) - this pattern could be improved to better flow like this
2. 01:14:566 (172,173,174,175) - how about try k kkd ? more fit the vocal imo

qoot8123 wrote:

recheck.

General :

1. 00:59:355 - unsnapped green line on kantan , muzu and oni fixed
2. 01:00:655 - ^ ^

Oni :

1. 00:29:131 (62,63,64,65,66,67,68,69,70,71,72,73,74,75,76,77,78,79,80,81) - this pattern could be improved to better flow like this fixed
2. 01:14:566 (172,173,174,175) - how about try k kkd ? more fit the vocal imo fixed

that's all from me

qoot8123 wrote:

looks good now .

bubbled!

Nwolf wrote:

#screwmoddinglists

[Kantan]

00:51:739 (18) - Delete to have 4/1 break here. Also gives 00:52:609 (19) - a bit more emphasis
01:03:913 (33) - ^ just without the emphasis stuff. Kiai currently lacks bigger breaks and it has 5-plets which is quite evil
01:07:392 (38) - ^
01:17:826 (55) - ^
01:21:305 (60) - ^

All fixed

[Nardo's Futsuu]

00:08:044 (12,13,14,15,16,17) - Why different different rhythm?
00:48:260 (56,57,58,59,60,61,62) - Think ddkkkdd fits vocal pitch better (or ddkdkdd)
00:55:217 (71,72,73) - Change 71 and 72 to kat and delete 73 to emphasis 00:56:086 (74) - better (and make it more playable for Futsuu-level)
00:57:825 (78,79,80,81,82,83) - idk I prefer kkd here like other diffs do
01:13:912 (113,114) - These notes take away vocal emphasis, delete them (also the 1/1 might be too long here so ye)
01:16:086 (117,118,119,120) - 01:02:391 (86,87,88,89) - are different

[Muzukashii]

00:12:609 (27,30) - Delete to create more vocal emphasis
00:27:718 (31) - This part already is quite hard compared to Futsuu, delete this note
00:44:348 (19,20) - Delete 19 (vocal emphasis) and change 20 to don (fits better imo)
00:45:218 (21) - Delete for 2/1 break
01:22:609 (145) - Change to kat (consistency, snare, w/e you prefer as reason)
01:23:044 (146) - Delete (consistency, emphasis, w/e you prefer as reason)

All fixed

*sigh*

Onis

[Onis]

Normally I get unmotivated when modding a map cause I look at the lower diffs and they lack structure, breaks, etc. (since they are the first diffs I mod), now it's the other way around. In my eyes, both Onis lack structure and rhythm, mostly kat rhythm.

[stu's Oni]

Structure: 00:01:740 - to 00:08:696 - no noticable breaks ; 00:08:696 - 00:13:913 - Suddenly 3/2 breaks even though the song has not calmed down. Let's not forget the seemingly randomly placed triplets: 00:02:826 (4,5,6) - being on 3+, 00:05:870 (16,17,18) - being on 2+ (why) and 00:13:261 (42,43,44) - appearing out of nowhere. Stuff like this continues throught the map, especially in the calmer parts.

Rhythm: 00:45:652 - 00:50:869 - Randomly switching between triplets and doublets, even tho the song's rhythm stays the same
Another example: 01:10:869 (150,151,152,153) - Other triplets in the kiai kinda make sense (they kinda work like the 3/4 sliders in osu std where instead of a 1/1 break you connect patterns by having a doublet, aka 01:15:978 (180,181) - ...even though that is inconsistent too) BUT these come out of nowhere and screw more with the already screwed rhythm. Why is rhythm screwed? Since the song uses a clear rhythm, with structure. The diff switches around a lot between doublets and triplets and I'm gonna be honest, it doesn't play well and it sounds worse.

Kat rhythm: Not such a big problem in this diff actually, snare rhythm is followed quite well while also adding a bit variation with vocals

[Oni]

Structure: 00:17:826 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - doublets - 00:24:783 (39,40,41,42,43,44,45,46,47) - triplets?

Rhythm: 00:31:739 (80,81,82,83,84,85,86,87,88,89,90,91,92) - Mostly following vocals, okay. Goes on quite okay, then 00:42:392 (19,20,21,22,23,24,25,26,27,28,29,30,31,32,33,34,35) - this. There's probably more notes that are overmapped that notes that are actually in the song here. I really don't get it, I tried to find sense in it but having so much different 1/4 patterns in here (kdk and kkddk!?) didn't help.

00:52:609 (67,68,69,70,71,72,73,74,75,76,77) - This too, which is very different from 00:45:653 (36,37,38,39,40,41,42,43,44) - . Both use doublets but one mentioned later skips notes, replacing the notes (on white ticks) with doublets surrounding it. I wouldn't complaing if the doublets were connected and make a pattern like dkddk or sth. But I complain

Kat rhythm: Basically what I said above (the skipped notes should be kats for rhythm's sake). And look at the kiai: A consistent thing about the kat rhythm is that it's mostly 1/1 kats, the bad thing about it is that sometimes it's 1/1 on white ticks, sometimes it's 1/1 on red ticks which is confusing and wrong rhythm. 1/1 on red ticks does follow the hi-hat but it often changes so rapidly that you can't get used to rhythm. Often it also doesn't fit vocals.
All of my concerns are summed up 01:06:957 (131,132,133,134,135,136,137,138,139,140,141,142,143,144,145,146,147,148,149,150,151,152,153) - here btw.

Oni=keep now.

Sorry if the Oni bit of the mod sounded rude, but it had to be said. Since I am new I also don't know if I should've popped the bubble for this, since I don't see the map being ready of that yet. But I don't want to stand in the way, so the Oni stuff is in a nice box that you can just ignore that little box and apply (or deny) the mods for the lower diffs since they should also fix up spread and break issues a little bit.

Nwolf wrote:

#screwmoddinglists

[Nardo's Futsuu]

00:08:044 (12,13,14,15,16,17) - Why different different rhythm? They are different because the vocal pitch at 00:09:783 (15,16,17) - is lower than 00:08:044 (12,13,14) - . As a result, more don would be used in the latter part for showing such a difference.
00:48:260 (56,57,58,59,60,61,62) - Think ddkkkdd fits vocal pitch better (or ddkdkdd) changed to d k k d k d d to fit more the vocal.
00:55:217 (71,72,73) - Change 71 and 72 to kat and delete 73 to emphasis 00:56:086 (74) - better (and make it more playable for Futsuu-level) fixed, with 00:55:217 (71) - being d because of 00:54:347 (70) - .
00:57:825 (78,79,80,81,82,83) - idk I prefer kkd here like other diffs do Remain unchanged since the vocal pitch of 00:57:825 (78,80,81,83) - are all the same.
01:13:912 (113,114) - These notes take away vocal emphasis, delete them (also the 1/1 might be too long here so ye) Deleted the note at 01:13:912 - . I prefer keeping 01:14:347 (113) - because of the noticeable drum.
01:16:086 (117,118,119,120) - 01:02:391 (86,87,88,89) - are different They are different because the vocal patterns are different (4 syllables vs 5 syllables).

Sorry if the Oni bit of the mod sounded rude, but it had to be said. Since I am new I also don't know if I should've popped the bubble for this, since I don't see the map being ready of that yet. But I don't want to stand in the way, so the Oni stuff is in a nice box that you can just ignore that little box and apply (or deny) the mods for the lower diffs since they should also fix up spread and break issues a little bit.

Nwolf wrote:

[stu's Oni]

Structure: 00:01:740 - to 00:08:696 - no noticable breaks ; 00:08:696 - 00:13:913 - Suddenly 3/2 breaks even though the song has not calmed down. Let's not forget the seemingly randomly placed triplets: 00:02:826 (4,5,6) - being on 3+, 00:05:870 (16,17,18) - being on 2+ (why) and 00:13:261 (42,43,44) - appearing out of nowhere. Stuff like this continues throught the map, especially in the calmer parts.

Rhythm: 00:45:652 - 00:50:869 - Randomly switching between triplets and doublets, even tho the song's rhythm stays the same
Another example: 01:10:869 (150,151,152,153) - Other triplets in the kiai kinda make sense (they kinda work like the 3/4 sliders in osu std where instead of a 1/1 break you connect patterns by having a doublet, aka 01:15:978 (180,181) - ...even though that is inconsistent too) BUT these come out of nowhere and screw more with the already screwed rhythm. Why is rhythm screwed? Since the song uses a clear rhythm, with structure. The diff switches around a lot between doublets and triplets and I'm gonna be honest, it doesn't play well and it sounds worse.

Kat rhythm: Not such a big problem in this diff actually, snare rhythm is followed quite well while also adding a bit variation with vocals

Sorry if the Oni bit of the mod sounded rude, but it had to be said. Since I am new I also don't know if I should've popped the bubble for this, since I don't see the map being ready of that yet. But I don't want to stand in the way, so the Oni stuff is in a nice box that you can just ignore that little box and apply (or deny) the mods for the lower diffs since they should also fix up spread and break issues a little bit.


EDIT (January 28th): Was told to set icon if I'm not playing on rebubbling it, so popping the bubble for issues in Oni diffs (as stated in the box). But I guess qoot can rebubble this if he still thinks the set is fine, I kinda don't care. But I would recommend to get a few more mods

_Gezo_ wrote:

[Timing]
Add a 5/4 section on 00:15:653 - to get rid of the unnecesarry barline before the first note https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2654109 all diff fixed

[Kantan]
00:29:130 (14) - That could be a good deletion, if you want to keep some rhythm consistency. Also, it would let the newcomer get prepared to the upcoming roll. fixed
00:44:782 (8) - Delete that, to have both emphasis on 00:45:653 (9) - and a 4/1 break since this pattern is rather long. fixed

[Futsuu]
00:26:956 (17,18,19,20) - The rhythm is different as on 00:23:478 (10,11,12,13) - and plays a bit weirder as a consequence. The synth goes more on a 1/1 base so maybe make a 1+3 instead of 2+2?
01:03:478 (89) - Kinda don't know what's this note for, it doesn't seem to have strong support so delete it
01:12:608 (108,109,110,111) - Kind of hard. Just commenting here because I don't really know how to fix that aside from adding one more 1/1 break.

[Muzukashii]
00:01:305 - +notes ? fixed
00:33:261 (49,50) - Invert those two. The structure of this quintuplet will then be similar to 00:34:131 (51,52,53,54,55) - , which is a good thing considering the song does not really have a difference. fixed
01:00:870 (63,64,65) - Delete 64, you will create a better atmosphere uwu fixed

[Oni]
00:01:305 - +notes? fixed
00:23:260 (30,31,32,33,34,35,36,37,38) - I think you could use the same rhythm for that, I have these 3 variations in mind: {1} {2} {3}. Right now, your pattern is incoherent with your part. okay.I changed {1}
00:28:261 (57,58,59,60,61,62,63,64,65,66,67) - / 00:30:000 (68,69,70,71,72,73,74,75,76,77) - Same goes here, you have incoherent patterns. umm...okay.changed even - even.
00:42:392 (19,20,21,22,23,24,25,26,27,28,29,30,31,32,33,34,35) - The song barely gets more intense, 1/4 patterns don't really belong here. fixed (not put 1/4)
00:45:653 (36,37,38,39,40,41,42,43,44) - Use this, it resembles your Muzukashii. I strongly recommend changing 44, because k fits much more. fixed
00:48:261 (46,47,48,49,50,51,52) - That kind of rhythm doesn't fit well, try this variation which seems to be more correct to me. fixed
00:50:000 (55,56,57) - kkd, to have a better flow. kdk isn't fit. fixed
00:50:761 (59,60) - d only on 00:50:870 (60) - ? This addition feels off especially when you have a similar song construction here: 00:51:739 (63,64,65) - fixed
01:01:957 (102,103,104) - dkk doesn't work, I recommend ddk fixed
01:04:566 (116,117) - Ctrl+G, you will fit the lyrics better that way. fixed
01:10:218 (149,150,151) - Change to ddd, it would have a better effect (quieter lyrics) fixed
01:16:305 (182,183,184) - kkd would fit better to the lyrical aspect of the song. fixed
01:20:000 (203,204,205,206,207) - ddkkd or ddkkk would work wonders here. fixed
01:22:392 (217,218,219) - ddd, like 01:10:218 (149,150,151) -
01:24:566 (230,231) - Ctrl+G so you have consistency with 01:23:261 (222,223,224,225,226) - fixed

[stu's Oni]
00:01:305 - +notes?
00:20:217 (13,14,15,16,17,18) - Your pattern is a little bit off, try this.
00:23:043 (32,33,34,35,36,37,38) - Try this, it'll be the same as your formation at 00:22:173 (26,27,28,29,30,31) -
00:28:043 (62,63,64,65,66,67,68,69,70,71,72) - It's a rather random formation here. Try this? You will have one more break too, if you apply this.
00:35:217 (1) - Remove that spinner and add more notes?
00:47:825 (31,32,33,34,35,36,37,38,39,40,41,42,43,44,45,46,47,48,49,50) - This formation is really really odd to play and doesn't flow well... I'd recommend this.
00:54:999 (64,65,66,67) - ddkd, so you still keep your kats on white ticks.
00:58:043 (82,83,84) - And there, dkd so your kat is purely isolated a,d fits more.
01:04:999 (115,116) - You don't have 1/1 breaks for a while, why not delete these notes so you get one ?
01:07:173 (127,128,129) - ddd ? I think it fits better than dkk, but yeah I can't really explain why
01:09:130 (139,140,141,142,143) - Have a similar pattern as 01:07:391 (129,130,131,132,133,134) - for consistency
01:10:652 (146,147) - kkd for consistency
01:13:478 (164,165,166,167) - Invert everything (d kkd) as this isn't really fit.
01:16:086 (179,180,181,182,183) - Try kkddk, which fits better to the vocals.
01:17:173 (184) - Delete that (optional)
01:17:391 (185) - If you applied this^: d to have variation
01:17:608 (186) - Delete that to get a break (second half of the kiai doesn't even have any break)
01:20:434 (202) - kat, fits to the vocal.
01:20:652 (203,204,205,206,207,208) - Make breaks here if you want. At least delete 204/207.

_Gezo_ wrote:

[Timing]
Add a 5/4 section on 00:15:653 - to get rid of the unnecesarry barline before the first note https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2654109 fixed

[Futsuu]
00:26:956 (17,18,19,20) - The rhythm is different as on 00:23:478 (10,11,12,13) - and plays a bit weirder as a consequence. The synth goes more on a 1/1 base so maybe make a 1+3 instead of 2+2? The rhythm is quite similar except the extra sound at 00:27:608 - comparing to 00:24:130 - . As 00:27:608 (19) - has a lower pitch than 00:27:825 (20) - , the 2+2 pattern could still fit the rhythm imo.
01:03:478 (89) - Kinda don't know what's this note for, it doesn't seem to have strong support so delete it fixed
01:12:608 (108,109,110,111) - Kind of hard. Just commenting here because I don't really know how to fix that aside from adding one more 1/1 break. Actually it is not that hard imo. I would prefer a slight increase in pattern complexity in kiai for highlighting the vocal more.

_Gezo_ wrote:

[Timing]
Add a 5/4 section on 00:15:653 - to get rid of the unnecesarry barline before the first note https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2654109

[stu's Oni]
00:01:305 - +notes?
00:20:217 (13,14,15,16,17,18) - Your pattern is a little bit off, try this.
00:23:043 (32,33,34,35,36,37,38) - Try this, it'll be the same as your formation at 00:22:173 (26,27,28,29,30,31) -
00:28:043 (62,63,64,65,66,67,68,69,70,71,72) - It's a rather random formation here. Try this? You will have one more break too, if you apply this.
00:35:217 (1) - Remove that spinner and add more notes?
00:47:825 (31,32,33,34,35,36,37,38,39,40,41,42,43,44,45,46,47,48,49,50) - This formation is really really odd to play and doesn't flow well... I'd recommend this.
00:54:999 (64,65,66,67) - ddkd, so you still keep your kats on white ticks.
00:58:043 (82,83,84) - And there, dkd so your kat is purely isolated a,d fits more.
01:04:999 (115,116) - You don't have 1/1 breaks for a while, why not delete these notes so you get one ?
01:07:173 (127,128,129) - ddd ? I think it fits better than dkk, but yeah I can't really explain why
01:09:130 (139,140,141,142,143) - Have a similar pattern as 01:07:391 (129,130,131,132,133,134) - for consistency
01:10:652 (146,147) - kkd for consistency
01:13:478 (164,165,166,167) - Invert everything (d kkd) as this isn't really fit.
01:16:086 (179,180,181,182,183) - Try kkddk, which fits better to the vocals.
01:17:173 (184) - Delete that (optional)
01:17:391 (185) - If you applied this^: d to have variation
01:17:608 (186) - Delete that to get a break (second half of the kiai doesn't even have any break)
01:20:434 (202) - kat, fits to the vocal.
01:20:652 (203,204,205,206,207,208) - Make breaks here if you want. At least delete 204/207.

alacat wrote:

Hey You must fix the title before going qualify. I discussed with Satellite about it.

Romanised Title : Iro wa Nioedo Chirinuru o(OPver.)
Title : 色は匂へど 散りぬるを(OPver.)



official website : http://www.yuuhei-satellite.jp/?p=364

Then, Ranked ver is wrong :< So it's your pick to add the title of English ver to tags

Good luck !

_Gezo_ wrote:

recheck time, do not kd

[Kantan]
01:11:739 (41,42) - 01:25:653 (61,62) - Don't think these finishers are necessary, it puts away some good emphasis.
(Finish deleted as per IRC modding => http://i.chiyozel.com/9ONx8SJJ)

[stu's Oni]
IRC modded: https://www.dropbox.com/s/lnactndzl40bo ... 9.txt?dl=0


Edit: Bubbled!
I'll let this have another try. The map has a certain sense of addition to the map rather than pure accompaniment, which makes the map look different.
inb4 nwolf second pop.

mingmichael wrote:

Red ~> unrakable issue, must be changed
Blue ~> highly suggested, consider to use it
Black ~> suggestion, just free to choose it
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[ stu's Oni]

General

☞ okay!

Notes Structure

☞ okay!

Notes

move 00:13:261 - to 00:13:696 - . there's not any sounds on 00:13:261 - , but you still use a note there to fill the break. not really a good idea since we can follow the vocal (which is more important) on 00:13:696 - with a note

• delete 00:21:630 - . well, at least for giving a 1/2 break there. much better than a 1/4 triplet there

• 00:28:586 - ^

• delete 01:03:260 - and 01:03:369 - for giving a 1/2 break there, like you did on 01:17:173 - . and also to avoid the long 1/2 patterns that you used from 01:00:869 - until 01:06:521 -
anyway change 01:03:695 - to be don if you delete those notes ^

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mingmichael wrote:

Red ~> unrakable issue, must be changed
Blue ~> highly suggested, consider to use it
Black ~> suggestion, just free to choose it


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[ Kantan]

General

☞ okay!

Notes Structure

☞ okay!

Notes

• you have two choices here. you can choose by yourself :
1. change 01:19:999 - to be don, to make a consistent pattern with the monotonous pattern like 01:16:086 - . so the 1/1 triplets would be o o o and o o o
2. change 01:16:521 - to be don, so the 1/1 triplet would be o o o, to make reverse pattern from 01:19:565 - change to kdk

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[ Futsuu]

General

☞delete this useless inheriting timing point >> 01:00:652 -

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[ Muzukashii]

General

☞ okay!

Notes Structure

☞ okay! :3

Notes

• change 00:23:043 - to be don and reverse these notes 00:23:478 - and 00:23:695 - . a don on 00:23:043 - will emphasize the lower string sound there with the don, much better with don than a kat. and also a don would keep the consistent pattern which 00:23:043 - should be don because of the 1st beat fixed

• delete 00:26:739 - . that note is just an additional note and not a "must" thing that we should have. and also i deleted it to give a 1/2 break there between the 1/2 triplets on 00:25:652 - and 00:27:391 - fixed

• would be better with a don on 00:27:608 - , but this one is just optional keep

• delete this one 01:11:086 - , to give a 1/2 break there. and also there's not any sounds come on that 1/2, so this note is just an additional note and we can ignore this one ^

• 01:24:999 - ^ . even though it has a vocal, but make this consistent like above. if you delete 01:11:086 - , you should delete 01:24:999 - too ^

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[ Oni]

General

☞ okay!

Notes Structure

☞ nope, i can't allow you to use these 1/4 xx-xxxx patterns from 00:17:826 - until 00:22:173 - . no reasons could be found for the usage of these patterns because it's really clear that the song just give a 1/1 and 1/2 sounds only there, but you tried to use a 1/4 xx-xxxx pattern for your patterns. okay, maybe this is kind of your style for mapping or you wanna use something different for some patterns and actually it's nice, but not a wise decision for using this. you can try to change these patterns by yourself, like you did on 00:24:782 - ~ 00:27:825 -

umm...okay;w; changed similar to pattern... 00:24:782 - ~ 00:27:825 -

Notes

• make this pattern to be more natural. change this triplet on 00:09:783 - to be ooo and change 00:10:435 -, for the dropping vocal sounds there fixed

• delete this one 00:51:086 - , to give 1/2 breaks there ^

• make this one natural too. delete this note 01:06:195 - . not really important for using a 1/4 triplet+5plets there, since a 5-plets don't support any strong sounds and it's just your own additional pattern. you can use some 1/4 5-plets keep

• same here 01:14:021 - , delete ^

• i'm going to try to make your patterns stronger, for the don patterns. try to change 01:14:565 - to be don. the double dons on 01:14:347 - and 01:14:565 - will support the drum hits perfectly and they emphasize the kat on 01:14:782 - perfectly too! fixed

• no idea for a sudden xx-xxxx pattern on 01:17:825 - since you don't use any xx-xxxx patterns for you kiais. make this consistent with a xxx pattern of xxxxx. you can move 01:17:934 - to 01:18:043 - , it's much better IMO fixed

• change 01:20:434 - to be don, make it natural for the o o o o pattern in 1/2 bsd keep

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[ stu's Oni]

General

☞ okay!

Notes Structure

☞ okay!

Notes

move 00:13:261 - to 00:13:696 - . there's not any sounds on 00:13:261 - , but you still use a note there to fill the break. not really a good idea since we can follow the vocal (which is more important) on 00:13:696 - with a note

• delete 00:21:630 - . well, at least for giving a 1/2 break there. much better than a 1/4 triplet there

• 00:28:586 - ^

• delete 01:03:260 - and 01:03:369 - for giving a 1/2 break there, like you did on 01:17:173 - . and also to avoid the long 1/2 patterns that you used from 01:00:869 - until 01:06:521 -
anyway change 01:03:695 - to be don if you delete those notes ^

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mingmichael wrote:

Red ~> unrakable issue, must be changed
Blue ~> highly suggested, consider to use it
Black ~> suggestion, just free to choose it


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[ Futsuu]

General

☞delete this useless inheriting timing point >> 01:00:652 - fixed

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mingmichael wrote:

owh just found some inconsistent patterns in stu's Oni


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[ stu's Oni]

Notes

• a xxxx-xx shouldn't have started on 00:20:217 - until 00:20:869 - . yup i allow you to use a xx-xxxx pattern on 00:22:173 - since they are consistent (on 00:22:173 - ~ 00:24:347 - ). we can see the general pattern from 00:17:826 - until 00:24:347 - (in total they have 4 stanzas between them). it has 2 patterns (a x-xxx and a xx-xxxx pattern). i can take a conclusion that the first pattern starts on 00:17:826 - until 00:21:304 - with a x-xxx pattern (total it has 2 stanzas between 00:17:826 - and 00:21:304 -), and the second pattern starts on 00:21:304 - until 00:24:347 - with a xx-xxxx pattern (in total it has 2 stanzas too between 00:21:304 - andl 00:24:347 -). okay, so then 00:20:217 - ~ 00:20:869 - shouldn't a xxxx-xx pattern because it's too early for using this one. okay it's easy, just move 00:20:543 - to 00:20:652 - and delete 00:20:760 - fixed!

• i don't get any reasons for the usage of 1/4 xx-xx pattern on 00:49:999 (44,45,46,47) - . well maybe you wanna try to use some different pattern there with a xx-xx pattern, and actually it's good, but not for the consistency of the pattern that you used. mostly you just used a 1/2 and 1/4 pattern from 00:49:130 - when the vocals don't give any 1/4 sounds. we can hear the vocals clearly that they don't give those sounds on 00:49:999 (44,45,46,47) - and actually it just needs a x-xxx pattern. you can just try to move 00:50:108 - to 00:50:217 - , it helps a lot for the consistency of the pattern fixed!

• nope a 1/4 xxxx-xx-x pattern on 00:54:999 (66,67,68,69,70,71,72) - , actually it should be a xxx-xx-xx pattern, to make the similar pattern like you did on 00:56:086 - until 00:57:825 - . even though it would have a different pattern (if you change this) from 00:53:478 (57,58,59,60,61) - , but this one is acceptable because a xxx-xx-xx pattern on 00:56:086 - until 00:57:825 - would connect the next pattern perfectly on 00:56:086 - when the patterns change. here you can try this :

it's from 00:54:999 - until 00:56:086 -

fixed!

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