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The Gregory Brothers - Auto-Tune the News #9

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mm201
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Tuesday March 9, 2010 at 11:51:51 PM

Artist: The Gregory Brothers
Title: Auto-Tune the News #9
Tags: smell hope better world sick health care nobel peace prize tun obama emdyion
BPM: 162
Filesize: 10991kb
Play Time: 02:23
Difficulties Available:
  1. Angry Gorilla (4.96 stars, 333 notes)
  2. Emdyion's Afford to Live (3.79 stars, 172 notes)
  3. Smell The Hope (4.44 stars, 229 notes)
  4. Tun Tun Tun (2.34 stars, 139 notes)
Download: The Gregory Brothers - Auto-Tune the News #9
Download: The Gregory Brothers - Auto-Tune the News #9 (no video)
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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hey

BAT #1: m980
BAT #2: Larto
m980
[Angry Gorilla]
01:00:829 (2,4) - Ohhhh man..
01:09:533 (2,4) - Jeeeeeez...
01:53:792 (1,2,3) - Maaan..
02:01:385 (10,12) - Oh jeez..

EDIT
Topic Starter
mm201

m980 wrote:

[Angry Gorilla]
01:53:792 (1,2,3) - Maaan..
How did you? ...
Emdyion
This was good. I liked it!
But you know I have a "Smell the Hope".
But it was sent to grave because greenpoint0 quit...
It was kind of good though, so I'll direct you to it: viewtopic.php?t=19211
The diff could be in between Tun Tun Tun and Smell the Hope.
If you wanted to do it by yourself, that's fine with me.
Anyways, star~
Randy96
oh cool
Topic Starter
mm201

Emdyion wrote:

This was good. I liked it!
But you know I have a "Smell the Hope".
But it was sent to grave because greenpoint0 quit...
It was kind of good though, so I'll direct you to it: viewtopic.php?t=19211
The diff could be in between Tun Tun Tun and Smell the Hope.
If you wanted to do it by yourself, that's fine with me.
Anyways, star~
Any other thoughts for a difficulty name?

EDIT: And can you fix the spacing? =/
Emdyion

MetalMario201 wrote:

Emdyion wrote:

This was good. I liked it!
But you know I have a "Smell the Hope".
But it was sent to grave because greenpoint0 quit...
It was kind of good though, so I'll direct you to it: viewtopic.php?t=19211
The diff could be in between Tun Tun Tun and Smell the Hope.
If you wanted to do it by yourself, that's fine with me.
Anyways, star~
Any other thoughts for a difficulty name?

EDIT: And can you fix the spacing? =/
Sure, I'll fix it. Where do you want it?

I don't really know a diff name for that, but i'll list some ideas:
1) Maybe something from the "How Could We Be So Heartless?" Part. Maybe "Be So Heartless" or something around there.
2) Or the part where the Angry Gorilla shows up. "An Angry Chart" maybe (though it could be for your "Smell the Hope")
If all else fails, just use Emdyion's Normal. :)
Topic Starter
mm201
Uploaded with my timing, video, etc. for your convenience.

Now:
Emdyion:
  1. Too many spacing errors to mention.
  2. Lots of whistle and clap abuse (ie. on a whole string of notes in a row) at eg. 00:35:273 (1,2,3,1,2,1,2) -
  3. Overlap and clustering is just uggh.
Emdyion

MetalMario201 wrote:

Uploaded with my timing, video, etc. for your convenience.

Now:
Emdyion:
  1. Too many spacing errors to mention.
  2. Lots of whistle and clap abuse (ie. on a whole string of notes in a row) at eg. 00:35:273 (1,2,3,1,2,1,2) -
  3. Overlap and clustering is just uggh.
I got it! Emdyion's Afford to Live!

So here's what you mean:
  1. The distance(space) has to be the same throughout the entire song. For ex. Each 1-beat distance is the same as the others.
  2. Too much sounds (yes, abuse). So what should I limit it to?
  3. Overlap (circles "intersect") and clustering (hitcircles in same position)
1) Distance snap? Maybe 0.9 or 1.0?
2) Use sounds when necessary?
3) [Don't know what to do for this part]

EDIT: Finished with distance snap (not sounds). Here's the .osu

Download: The Gregory Brothers - Auto-Tune the News #9 (MetalMario201) [Emdyion].osu
Topic Starter
mm201
This is vastly improved over what was there before.

The only thing is: 01:38:977 (1,2) - I actually liked it the way it was before. This is one of the occasional situations where it's okay to break spacing to make a better looking pattern.

Emdyion wrote:

2) Use sounds when necessary?
Just be on the lookout for spots where there's like 20 consecutive whistles. .__.

Emdyion wrote:

3) [Don't know what to do for this part]
The spacing fixes seem to have made it much more readable, so don't worry about this.
Emdyion
This map has been deleted on the request of its creator. It is no longer available.

Download: The Gregory Brothers - Auto-Tune the News #9 (MetalMario201) [Emdyion's Afford to Live].osu
DeathxShinigami
Solid map overall, I miss your forgotten maping Emdyion xD

Starred.
Dusty
Yay, a map that doesn't suck (an understatement, I know)

+priority

emydion to tags?

[Emydion]
Fix improperly stacked notes on the ends of sliders? (turn grid snap off, 0.0x spacing)
Topic Starter
mm201

Dusty wrote:

[Emydion]
Fix improperly stacked notes on the ends of sliders? (turn grid snap off, 0.0x spacing)
02:13:607 (4) - Took this note out of snap.
02:18:051 (5) - Rebuilt this to be symmetrical with 02:17:496 (4).
02:21:014 (2) - Vertically aligned this with 02:20:459 (1).

This should fix any malformed stacks.

Tags: set.
Emdyion

MetalMario201 wrote:

Dusty wrote:

[Emydion]
Fix improperly stacked notes on the ends of sliders? (turn grid snap off, 0.0x spacing)
02:13:607 (4) - Took this note out of snap.
02:18:051 (5) - Rebuilt this to be symmetrical with 02:17:496 (4).
02:21:014 (2) - Vertically aligned this with 02:20:459 (1).

This should fix any malformed stacks.

Tags: set.
Thanks.

EDIT: Seems like Jibber is using distance snap as well. (The map felt confusing to me at first T.T)
Nice map~ Was it meant to be hard or easy? Or Normal?
Lilac
When I try to update "Smell The Hope". It still comes up with the update button.
RandomJibberish
I don't see any problems with the map at all, so star~

I do have the same problem as MarioBros777 though.

Oh, and I made a guest diff. Hope you like it~

Download: The Gregory Brothers - Auto-Tune the News #9 (MetalMario201) [Jibber has a Chart].osu
NotShinta

RandomJibberish wrote:

I don't see any problems with the map at all, so star~

I do have the same problem as MarioBros777 though.
Lolcontradiction

Anyway, I had the same problem as MarioBros, but it seems to be okay now.

No other problems, star.
RandomJibberish
This map has been deleted on the request of its creator. It is no longer available.
Topic Starter
mm201

MarioBros777 wrote:

When I try to update "Smell The Hope". It still comes up with the update button.
This could be related to the slider changes in the test build.

Hopefully this should resolve itself come the next public.
Topic Starter
mm201
I added RandomJibberish's difficulty.

But please, no more. Five is already too many. Especially since now three of them are Normals!

Emdyion's Afford to Live:
  1. 01:38:977 (1,2) - Move left by 1/2 of a grid.*
Jibber has a Chart:
  1. 00:36:385 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6) - Move right by ~1 grid. (Why is this not grid snapped?)
  2. 01:27:125 (1,2) - Spacing.
  3. 01:45:644 (3,4,5) - Move up by 1 grid.*
* I have already fixed this.
RandomJibberish
0_o
Tun Tun Tun
00:42:681 (1) and 02:17:496 (1) - I realize this is iNiS style, but I really do think this jump is quite wide for the easiest difficulty. It's probably debatable, and if you really wanna keep it than I'll respect that, but it's just something to consider.

Emdyon's
00:35:829 (3,1) - it'd be nice if these didn't overlap (kinda ugly), but it's not a huge deal
00:42:681 (6) - make this symmetrical
01:41:940 (3,4) - ugly stacking

All of the difficulties are awesome, definitely the best Auto-Tune map so far :) Call me back for a p-bubble.
Topic Starter
mm201

0_o wrote:

Tun Tun Tun
00:42:681 (1) and 02:17:496 (1) - I realize this is iNiS style, but I really do think this jump is quite wide for the easiest difficulty. It's probably debatable, and if you really wanna keep it than I'll respect that, but it's just something to consider.
The music at this part demands a pattern which rises upward. On the higher difficulties, the spacing/slider speed was fast enough for me to work my way back down on "the time has come," but this is impossible on Easy. Any attempt to work my way back down either breaks symmetry or causes overlap. There's a whole 3/2 rest there, which should be enough for an Easy player to reorient.

0_o wrote:

Emdyon's
00:35:829 (3,1) - it'd be nice if these didn't overlap (kinda ugly), but it's not a huge deal
00:42:681 (6) - make this symmetrical
01:41:940 (3,4) - ugly stacking

All of the difficulties are awesome, definitely the best Auto-Tune map so far :) Call me back for a p-bubble.
I did a lot of symmetrifying and tidying on the two guest difficulties in ways which shouldn't be noticed. I'm waiting on Emdyon for the first and third points. I would personally suggest:

00:33:792 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - Move up by 5 grids.
01:41:940 (3,4) - I don't really like sliders overlapping in this way in general, but I guess move each 1 grid towards center.
m980
[E] [H] [H] [H] [I]

:\

[Emdyion's Afford to Live]
Quite a few problems here.

It starts earlier than the other difficulties for no good reason, other than to map more of the song I guess?
00:21:940 - Should start here with the rest of the difficulties.

The second half of the second section is INCREDIBLY boring. It's just 1/1 beat sliders/hitcircles up the ass. In fact, there are quite a lot of sections like that in the difficulty.
00:27:866 (1,2,3,4,5,6) -
01:24:162 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4) - (Not the whole 1/1 deal, but it's still just as boring.)
01:56:755 (1,2,1,2) - ^

I'm not really a fan of the overlap, and the Circle Size 3 makes it worse. Maybe you should make it smaller to help with the overlap.

[Jibber has a Chart]
00:25:088 (2) - This could possibly go 1/2 later.
01:38:977 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - Lol. I dunno, it's kinda repetitive.
02:17:310 (1,2,5,6) - Symmetrify?

Thoughts on this difficulty? The patterns could be less 90 degree-like. It's not as pleasing to the eye as a curving pattern.


Also these two difficulties have the same difficulty settings, and they are both default other than circle size. Maybe you could do something about that too :p

Other difficulties have already been symmetry nazi'd so whatever.
Topic Starter
mm201

m980 wrote:

[E] [H] [H] [H] [I]

:\
Better than

m980 wrote:

[Emdyion's Afford to Live]
Quite a few problems here.

It starts earlier than the other difficulties for no good reason, other than to map more of the song I guess?
00:21:940 - Should start here with the rest of the difficulties. Waiting on the mapper's verdict.

The second half of the second section is INCREDIBLY boring. It's just 1/1 beat sliders/hitcircles up the ass. In fact, there are quite a lot of sections like that in the difficulty.
00:27:866 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Waiting on the mapper's verdict.
01:24:162 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4) - (Not the whole 1/1 deal, but it's still just as boring.) Waiting on the mapper's verdict.
01:56:755 (1,2,1,2) - ^ Waiting on the mapper's verdict.

I'm not really a fan of the overlap, and the Circle Size 3 makes it worse. Maybe you should make it smaller to help with the overlap. Waiting on the mapper's verdict.

[Jibber has a Chart]
00:25:088 (2) - This could possibly go 1/2 later. Waiting on the mapper's verdict.
01:38:977 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - Lol. I dunno, it's kinda repetitive. Waiting on the mapper's verdict.
02:17:310 (1,2,5,6) - Symmetrify? Changed. WHYY is nothing in this map in grid snap??

Thoughts on this difficulty? My thoughts would just be to remove it.
The patterns could be less 90 degree-like. It's not as pleasing to the eye as a curving pattern.


Also these two difficulties have the same difficulty settings, and they are both default other than circle size. Maybe you could do something about that too :p

Other difficulties have already been symmetry nazi'd so whatever.
I was thinking you'd spot that 01:10:088 (5,7) - [Angry Gorilla] is no longer quite symmetric. Answer: It is. Wait for the next public.
m980

MetalMario201 wrote:

I was thinking you'd spot that 01:10:088 (5,7) - [Angry Gorilla] is no longer quite symmetric. Answer: It is. Wait for the next public.
I'm not that nazi.
RandomJibberish
I have fixed m980's problems~
Download: The Gregory Brothers - Auto-Tune the News #9 (MetalMario201) [Jibber has a Chart].osu

You can modify the difficulty settings however you think it would fit in best.

[Jibber has a Chart]Thoughts on this difficulty? My thoughts would just be to remove it.
Go ahead if you want to, It's your map and I wouldn't mind particularly.
Topic Starter
mm201

RandomJibberish wrote:

Go ahead if you want to, It's your map and I wouldn't mind particularly.
Three normals is too much. I'm also uncomfortable with it getting ranked in this state, and I don't want to put you through any more unnecessary work, so I'll drop it now before anyone gets hurt.


No hard feelings ♥
Emdyion

m980 wrote:

[Emdyion's Afford to Live]
Quite a few problems here.

It starts earlier than the other difficulties for no good reason, other than to map more of the song I guess?
00:21:940 - Should start here with the rest of the difficulties. Waiting on the mapper's verdict. In previous Auto-Tune maps, they start when the music starts (as simple as that). That's what I did, and it will stay that way.

The second half of the second section is INCREDIBLY boring. It's just 1/1 beat sliders/hitcircles up the ass. In fact, there are quite a lot of sections like that in the difficulty. This difficulty was supposed to be Normal, so I'm not sure that it would be possible like that, but that's fine.
00:27:866 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Waiting on the mapper's verdict. This can be easily replaced by 3 1/2 notes on the sliders.
01:24:162 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4) - (Not the whole 1/1 deal, but it's still just as boring.) Waiting on the mapper's verdict. Yes, it does seem that way. The end of the first slider 2 can be at 01:25:181.
01:56:755 (1,2,1,2) - ^ Waiting on the mapper's verdict. Ok, this would lead to a harder difficulty. I'm fine with that.

I'm not really a fan of the overlap, and the Circle Size 3 makes it worse. Maybe you should make it smaller to help with the overlap. Waiting on the mapper's verdict. Got it.
m980's mod led to this updated map.

Download: The Gregory Brothers - Auto-Tune the News #9 (MetalMario201) [Emdyion's Afford to Live].osu
aRiskOfRain
Awesome.
Mashley
m980
Endyion's difficulty still feels uninspired. Just doesn't flow right.. I blame the 1/1 beat notes. I shouldn't need to point them out, the difficulty is practically drowning in these. I dunno.. The map just feels like it's trying to hard to have claps on every second beat (which it's doing a horrible job at), as well as unnecessarily long sliders/pauses in areas where there could be something a whole lot cooler, and the Hitsounds are just awful. I cannot see this difficulty as rankable unless it has a huge overhaul.
Topic Starter
mm201
Welcome to Collab Limbo
Emdyion

m980 wrote:

Endyion's difficulty still feels uninspired. Just doesn't flow right.. I blame the 1/1 beat notes. I shouldn't need to point them out, the difficulty is practically drowning in these. I dunno.. The map just feels like it's trying to hard to have claps on every second beat (which it's doing a horrible job at), as well as unnecessarily long sliders/pauses in areas where there could be something a whole lot cooler, and the Hitsounds are just awful. I cannot see this difficulty as rankable unless it has a huge overhaul.
I am now remaking it so that it should be rankable.
EDIT: Done. Should be a normal difficulty now.

Download: The Gregory Brothers - Auto-Tune the News #9 (MetalMario201) [Emdyion's Afford to Live].osu
Topic Starter
mm201
Uploaded, and some very trivial symmetry errors fixed.
m980
Looks fine now
Topic Starter
mm201
Please do not rank ATM so I can fix the video.

Edit: This is now fixed.
m980
i283 is awesome.
m980
Yawn
Larto
Yeaaah!
DeathxShinigami
Congrats MM201, Emdyion~~
Colin Hou
quite nice map lol

i can't stop laughing when play, that sucks >_>
Shiroemon
nice map :)
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