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riffy

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riffy 2014-12-29T10:04:15+00:00

We did an IRC chech with the mapper.

13:24 Fort: hello
13:24 -Bakari-: hey
13:24 Fort: ummm i need help
13:25 -Bakari-: sure, how can I help you
13:25 Fort: check some major issues in here
13:25 *Fort is listening to [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/431095 Tristam & Braken - Frame of Mind]
13:26 -Bakari-: okay
13:28 *-Bakari- is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/441525 Tristam & Braken - Frame of Mind [Crystal's Easy]]
13:29 -Bakari-: 00:10:679 (1,1) - unrankable. For the easiest diff there should be ~1500ms of recovery time after each spinner
13:30 Fort: okay done
13:30 -Bakari-: okay, let's do a little IRC check 
13:31 Fort: okay
13:32 Fort: sure
13:33 -Bakari-: from what I see now there's a problem with the diff spread 
13:33 -Bakari-: lemme get a link to that rule/guide
13:33 -Bakari-: https://osu.ppy.sh/wiki/Difficulty_appropriate_gameplay_elements
13:35 -Bakari-: adding a few more 1/2 beats to make Normal have ~2,1 stars would be the best possible solution, I'd say
13:35 Fort: okay i fix some stacing in easy diff
13:36 Fort: but can stacked object added to easy diff?
13:37 Fort: like in here 00:36:736 (3,4) -
13:37 -Bakari-: it's okay, but I'd recommend to avoid them
13:37 Fort: okay
13:38 -Bakari-: 00:43:593 (1,1) - same thing about recovery time
13:38 *-Bakari- is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/441525 Tristam & Braken - Frame of Mind [Crystal's Easy]]
13:39 Fort: i was delete that spinner
13:41 -Bakari-: 00:53:193 (1) - a very minor thing,  but can we make the shape a little more readable? [http://puu.sh/dNB0x.jpg example]
13:43 -Bakari-: 01:12:222 (2) - push it 1/2 forward in order to represent the vocals better
13:43 -Bakari-: [http://puu.sh/dNB6v.jpg that's what you'll get]
13:44 Fort: done
13:45 -Bakari-: 01:09:650 (3) - and push this one as well, for the same reason 
13:46 -Bakari-: 01:17:879 (2) - finish this one at 01:18:221 - 
13:47 -Bakari-: 1/2 gaps seem out of place in this diff, so yeah :c
13:47 Fort: yea i know this one
13:47 -Bakari-: 01:47:365 (1,1) - sorry, we'll have to change this :c
13:48 Fort: already done
13:49 -Bakari-:  02:00:393 (1,2) - we don't really need the circle  
13:49 -Bakari-: extend the slider by 1/2 and we will have a pattern like [http://puu.sh/dNBmA.jpg this] 
13:50 -Bakari-: might require some minor spacing changes, but I think you can handle this
13:50 Fort: hell this GD
13:51 -Bakari-: nah, we aren't doin' a lot of changes 
13:51 -Bakari-: the diff looks pretty nice, except for some patterns
13:52 Fort: umm i see
13:52 -Bakari-: 02:13:421 - the strong beat is unclickabe, which means that the rhythm is not mapped correctly. 
13:52 -Bakari-: so, the only way to solve it is to make that beat clickable 
13:53 -Bakari-: for example, [http://puu.sh/dNBuP.jpg like this]
13:53 -Bakari-:  02:30:565 (1,1) - sorry :c 
13:54 Fort: change pattern
13:54 Fort: done
13:54 -Bakari-: 02:37:251 (2) - push it 1/2 forward
13:54 -Bakari-: we've already done something similar
13:54 Fort: already fixed to all spinners
13:54 -Bakari-: 02:45:651 (2) - guess the mapper just copy-pasted the pattern :D 
13:55 Fort: i know this one
13:55 Fort: :D
13:55 -Bakari-: 03:29:536 (3) - and this one
13:55 Fort: oke copy pasted fix
13:55 -Bakari-: 03:35:022 (2) - and this
13:56 Fort: wth he just use 1/4 snap divisor lol
13:58 -Bakari-: okay, we've finished with Easy 
13:59 Fort: yes
13:59 -Bakari-: as I said previously, ask the guest mapper or try to make the Normal harder yourself 
13:59 -Bakari-: adding more 1/2s when it fits and looks necessary is the best possible way to do it 
14:00 Fort: but this one is 1.95 and my hard SR is 3.30
14:00 Fort: i talk to Hinsvar about this one
14:00 Fort: and he said is okay with that
14:00 -Bakari-: poke him once again, just to be on a safe side
14:00 -Bakari-: lemme explain that
14:01 Fort: but im still not sure for this
14:01 Fort: okay
14:02 -Bakari-: Easy - 1.22  / N - 1.95 / H - 3.3 / I - 4.41  / C - 5,04 
14:02 -Bakari-: feels like a diff of 2,xx star rating is missing here, right?  
14:03 -Bakari-: with a few changes to the Normal we can fix that
14:03 Fort: oh i see, so i need to raise normal diff star rating to 2?
14:04 -Bakari-: ~2,0 OR 2,1 
14:05 -Bakari-: so, I guess we can skip Normal for now and move on to Hard
14:05 *-Bakari- is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/431095 Tristam & Braken - Frame of Mind [Hard]]
14:06 Fort: yes done wityh normal
14:06 Fort: with*
14:06 -Bakari-: 00:20:964 (1,2,3) - if you take a look at the spacing values (upper-right corner of the screen, yellow numbers)   
14:06 -Bakari-: you can see that spacing is incosistent
14:06 -Bakari-: it jumps from 1,1 to 1,2 and then back to 1.1 
14:07 Fort: exactly im using 1/2x but i dont know why like this lol
14:07 -Bakari-: check it yourself, there might be a few more spacing mistakes 
14:07 -Bakari-: 00:35:020 (2,3) - 
14:09 Fort: done
14:09 -Bakari-: 01:03:478 (1,2,3,4) - i like the idea, but spacing difference makes it look untidy 
14:10 -Bakari-: 01:06:564 (2) - i doubt that you really want to have this curve, remove the red point? 
14:10 Fort: fix distance
14:10 -Bakari-: try AR 7,5 or even 8 
14:11 -Bakari-: 7 is just too slow for a >150 BPM hard diff 
14:11 Fort: how it can be lol
14:11 Fort: okay fix AR
14:12 Fort: 01:06:564 (2) - i think i like this slider
14:12 -Bakari-: 01:39:993 (1) - it's really hard to tell how many repets are in this slider, that is why I want you to change it
14:12 -Bakari-: http://puu.sh/dNCio.jpg
14:12 Fort: so it same like this? 03:07:764 (1) -
14:12 -Bakari-: or [http://puu.sh/dNCiN.jpg ~~]
14:13 -Bakari-: yeah
14:14 Fort: how about this? http://puu.sh/dNClr/8e6f73f37f.jpg
14:14 -Bakari-: 02:24:392 (1) - should be finished on the red tick, I'd say. there is nothing on the blue one
14:14 -Bakari-: yeah, that's okay
14:14 -Bakari-: 02:45:821 (6) - you know, same again :c
14:15 Fort: yea good
14:15 Fort: oh i didnt see it
14:15 -Bakari-: 02:51:478 (6) - finish on the red tick 
14:15 Fort: how about this one? 01:18:135 (5) -
14:15 -Bakari-: extended (3/4) sliders are quite a complicated thing, so you should pay a lot of attention to them 
14:16 -Bakari-: 01:18:135 (5) - it's okay
14:16 Fort: nah
14:17 -Bakari-: 02:55:250 (1) - there's a very bvious drum hit at the red tick 
14:17 -Bakari-: which is ignored for no reason :c
14:18 Fort: done
14:18 -Bakari-: 03:29:707 (7) - and the repeats again 
14:18 Fort: done
14:18 -Bakari-: 03:32:450 (5) - minor - probably we can improve the shape here :) [http://puu.sh/dNCwL.jpg right?]
14:19 Fort: blanet
14:19 Fort: blanketed
14:21 -Bakari-: and that's it. 
14:21 -Bakari-: try to pay more attention to spacing on this diff, otherwise it's fine
14:21 Fort: okay i will take a look at it
14:22 -Bakari-: oh, and disable epilepsy warning on Easy and Normal
14:23 -Bakari-: I think we don't need them anymore :) 
14:23 Fort: widescreen support too?
14:23 -Bakari-: yeah
14:24 Fort: okay done
14:24 Fort: umm i think in hard diff im using various spacing
14:26 *-Bakari- is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/441128 Tristam & Braken - Frame of Mind [Insane]]
14:27 -Bakari-: 00:28:508 (5) - we can clearly hear vocals fade at the red tick 
14:27 -Bakari-: other 3/4s are fine, though
14:27 -Bakari-: 00:33:308 (3) - same as above
14:28 Fort: all done
14:29 -Bakari-: 00:46:251 (4) - isn't that overmapped? 
14:29 -Bakari-: 00:47:622 (3) - ^
14:30 -Bakari-: I'm not really happy about the overmapped triplets and I don't think they are necessary here 
14:30 Fort: but looks good
14:30 Fort: :D
14:30 -Bakari-: well, echnically they're rankable 
14:30 Fort: okay i will fix it
14:31 -Bakari-: but they hurt the original rhythm of the song, as the artist did not intend to add those triplets in the song 
14:31 Fort: but without overmapping this map is like aaa
14:31 -Bakari-: you're free to keep 1/4s when they are fitting 
14:32 -Bakari-: or if you really do want to keep overmapped stuff, keep it consistent :c
14:32 Fort: i fix some 1/4 who didnt fit to song
14:35 -Bakari-: btw, some parts like 01:47:364 - are kinda hard to hear
14:35 -Bakari-: can you use louder hitsound there? 
14:35 -Bakari-: I'd say 45% volume instead of 30%
14:35 Fort: okay 45%
14:39 -Bakari-: 03:26:622 (4,5,6,7) - the 1/4 stack combined wth 1/2 feels sorta misleading 
14:39 -Bakari-: unstack 7, maybe? 
14:41 -Bakari-: okay. that's it for the Insane :D 
14:41 Fort: how about this?
14:41 Fort: http://puu.sh/dNDnz/9034d74ca5.jpg
14:41 Fort: i unstack triplet
14:42 -Bakari-: looks nice 
14:42 Fort: yea
14:43 *-Bakari- is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/441175 Tristam & Braken - Frame of Mind [Chill]]
14:43 -Bakari-: 00:18:136 (9) - inaudible hitobjects are not allowed 
14:44 -Bakari-: you can have a 5% volume slidertail, but 5% circle is a no-no thing :c 
14:45 Fort: im fix this one
14:46 -Bakari-: to be honest, I don't really see the point of this diff
14:47 -Bakari-: the music does not suggest insane jumps like 00:58:679 (6,7) - (x5.0+ DS) 
14:47 Fort: cause its my old map
14:47 Fort: :D
14:47 Fort: okay fixed
14:47 -Bakari-: 01:26:708 (5,1,2) - a sudden DS-reduce herehits really hard 
14:48 -Bakari-: try to use higher DS, so it won't be so confusing
14:49 Fort: done
14:52 -Bakari-: I'll post  log and a very short summary of hat we've changed in the beatmaps thread o/
14:52 Fort: i'll update this first
14:54 Fort: okay update the map

Changes:

A few patterns were improved
Minor volume change
Rhythm was fixed in a few parts
General suggestions

Overall, I find harder diffs sorta questionable and appearance of the set might be improved a little.

Ciyus Miapah

3,028 posts

Joined June 2013

Topic Starter

Ciyus Miapah 2014-12-29T10:18:58+00:00

-Bakari- wrote:

We did an IRC chech with the mapper.

IRC log

13:24 Fort: hello
13:24 -Bakari-: hey
13:24 Fort: ummm i need help
13:25 -Bakari-: sure, how can I help you
13:25 Fort: check some major issues in here
13:25 *Fort is listening to [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/431095 Tristam & Braken - Frame of Mind]
13:26 -Bakari-: okay
13:28 *-Bakari- is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/441525 Tristam & Braken - Frame of Mind [Crystal's Easy]]
13:29 -Bakari-: 00:10:679 (1,1) - unrankable. For the easiest diff there should be ~1500ms of recovery time after each spinner
13:30 Fort: okay done
13:30 -Bakari-: okay, let's do a little IRC check 
13:31 Fort: okay
13:32 Fort: sure
13:33 -Bakari-: from what I see now there's a problem with the diff spread 
13:33 -Bakari-: lemme get a link to that rule/guide
13:33 -Bakari-: https://osu.ppy.sh/wiki/Difficulty_appropriate_gameplay_elements
13:35 -Bakari-: adding a few more 1/2 beats to make Normal have ~2,1 stars would be the best possible solution, I'd say
13:35 Fort: okay i fix some stacing in easy diff
13:36 Fort: but can stacked object added to easy diff?
13:37 Fort: like in here 00:36:736 (3,4) -
13:37 -Bakari-: it's okay, but I'd recommend to avoid them
13:37 Fort: okay
13:38 -Bakari-: 00:43:593 (1,1) - same thing about recovery time
13:38 *-Bakari- is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/441525 Tristam & Braken - Frame of Mind [Crystal's Easy]]
13:39 Fort: i was delete that spinner
13:41 -Bakari-: 00:53:193 (1) - a very minor thing,  but can we make the shape a little more readable? [http://puu.sh/dNB0x.jpg example]
13:43 -Bakari-: 01:12:222 (2) - push it 1/2 forward in order to represent the vocals better
13:43 -Bakari-: [http://puu.sh/dNB6v.jpg that's what you'll get]
13:44 Fort: done
13:45 -Bakari-: 01:09:650 (3) - and push this one as well, for the same reason 
13:46 -Bakari-: 01:17:879 (2) - finish this one at 01:18:221 - 
13:47 -Bakari-: 1/2 gaps seem out of place in this diff, so yeah :c
13:47 Fort: yea i know this one
13:47 -Bakari-: 01:47:365 (1,1) - sorry, we'll have to change this :c
13:48 Fort: already done
13:49 -Bakari-:  02:00:393 (1,2) - we don't really need the circle  
13:49 -Bakari-: extend the slider by 1/2 and we will have a pattern like [http://puu.sh/dNBmA.jpg this] 
13:50 -Bakari-: might require some minor spacing changes, but I think you can handle this
13:50 Fort: hell this GD
13:51 -Bakari-: nah, we aren't doin' a lot of changes 
13:51 -Bakari-: the diff looks pretty nice, except for some patterns
13:52 Fort: umm i see
13:52 -Bakari-: 02:13:421 - the strong beat is unclickabe, which means that the rhythm is not mapped correctly. 
13:52 -Bakari-: so, the only way to solve it is to make that beat clickable 
13:53 -Bakari-: for example, [http://puu.sh/dNBuP.jpg like this]
13:53 -Bakari-:  02:30:565 (1,1) - sorry :c 
13:54 Fort: change pattern
13:54 Fort: done
13:54 -Bakari-: 02:37:251 (2) - push it 1/2 forward
13:54 -Bakari-: we've already done something similar
13:54 Fort: already fixed to all spinners
13:54 -Bakari-: 02:45:651 (2) - guess the mapper just copy-pasted the pattern :D 
13:55 Fort: i know this one
13:55 Fort: :D
13:55 -Bakari-: 03:29:536 (3) - and this one
13:55 Fort: oke copy pasted fix
13:55 -Bakari-: 03:35:022 (2) - and this
13:56 Fort: wth he just use 1/4 snap divisor lol
13:58 -Bakari-: okay, we've finished with Easy 
13:59 Fort: yes
13:59 -Bakari-: as I said previously, ask the guest mapper or try to make the Normal harder yourself 
13:59 -Bakari-: adding more 1/2s when it fits and looks necessary is the best possible way to do it 
14:00 Fort: but this one is 1.95 and my hard SR is 3.30
14:00 Fort: i talk to Hinsvar about this one
14:00 Fort: and he said is okay with that
14:00 -Bakari-: poke him once again, just to be on a safe side
14:00 -Bakari-: lemme explain that
14:01 Fort: but im still not sure for this
14:01 Fort: okay
14:02 -Bakari-: Easy - 1.22  / N - 1.95 / H - 3.3 / I - 4.41  / C - 5,04 
14:02 -Bakari-: feels like a diff of 2,xx star rating is missing here, right?  
14:03 -Bakari-: with a few changes to the Normal we can fix that
14:03 Fort: oh i see, so i need to raise normal diff star rating to 2?
14:04 -Bakari-: ~2,0 OR 2,1 
14:05 -Bakari-: so, I guess we can skip Normal for now and move on to Hard
14:05 *-Bakari- is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/431095 Tristam & Braken - Frame of Mind [Hard]]
14:06 Fort: yes done wityh normal
14:06 Fort: with*
14:06 -Bakari-: 00:20:964 (1,2,3) - if you take a look at the spacing values (upper-right corner of the screen, yellow numbers)   
14:06 -Bakari-: you can see that spacing is incosistent
14:06 -Bakari-: it jumps from 1,1 to 1,2 and then back to 1.1 
14:07 Fort: exactly im using 1/2x but i dont know why like this lol
14:07 -Bakari-: check it yourself, there might be a few more spacing mistakes 
14:07 -Bakari-: 00:35:020 (2,3) - 
14:09 Fort: done
14:09 -Bakari-: 01:03:478 (1,2,3,4) - i like the idea, but spacing difference makes it look untidy 
14:10 -Bakari-: 01:06:564 (2) - i doubt that you really want to have this curve, remove the red point? 
14:10 Fort: fix distance
14:10 -Bakari-: try AR 7,5 or even 8 
14:11 -Bakari-: 7 is just too slow for a >150 BPM hard diff 
14:11 Fort: how it can be lol
14:11 Fort: okay fix AR
14:12 Fort: 01:06:564 (2) - i think i like this slider
14:12 -Bakari-: 01:39:993 (1) - it's really hard to tell how many repets are in this slider, that is why I want you to change it
14:12 -Bakari-: http://puu.sh/dNCio.jpg
14:12 Fort: so it same like this? 03:07:764 (1) -
14:12 -Bakari-: or [http://puu.sh/dNCiN.jpg ~~]
14:13 -Bakari-: yeah
14:14 Fort: how about this? http://puu.sh/dNClr/8e6f73f37f.jpg
14:14 -Bakari-: 02:24:392 (1) - should be finished on the red tick, I'd say. there is nothing on the blue one
14:14 -Bakari-: yeah, that's okay
14:14 -Bakari-: 02:45:821 (6) - you know, same again :c
14:15 Fort: yea good
14:15 Fort: oh i didnt see it
14:15 -Bakari-: 02:51:478 (6) - finish on the red tick 
14:15 Fort: how about this one? 01:18:135 (5) -
14:15 -Bakari-: extended (3/4) sliders are quite a complicated thing, so you should pay a lot of attention to them 
14:16 -Bakari-: 01:18:135 (5) - it's okay
14:16 Fort: nah
14:17 -Bakari-: 02:55:250 (1) - there's a very bvious drum hit at the red tick 
14:17 -Bakari-: which is ignored for no reason :c
14:18 Fort: done
14:18 -Bakari-: 03:29:707 (7) - and the repeats again 
14:18 Fort: done
14:18 -Bakari-: 03:32:450 (5) - minor - probably we can improve the shape here :) [http://puu.sh/dNCwL.jpg right?]
14:19 Fort: blanet
14:19 Fort: blanketed
14:21 -Bakari-: and that's it. 
14:21 -Bakari-: try to pay more attention to spacing on this diff, otherwise it's fine
14:21 Fort: okay i will take a look at it
14:22 -Bakari-: oh, and disable epilepsy warning on Easy and Normal
14:23 -Bakari-: I think we don't need them anymore :) 
14:23 Fort: widescreen support too?
14:23 -Bakari-: yeah
14:24 Fort: okay done
14:24 Fort: umm i think in hard diff im using various spacing
14:26 *-Bakari- is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/441128 Tristam & Braken - Frame of Mind [Insane]]
14:27 -Bakari-: 00:28:508 (5) - we can clearly hear vocals fade at the red tick 
14:27 -Bakari-: other 3/4s are fine, though
14:27 -Bakari-: 00:33:308 (3) - same as above
14:28 Fort: all done
14:29 -Bakari-: 00:46:251 (4) - isn't that overmapped? 
14:29 -Bakari-: 00:47:622 (3) - ^
14:30 -Bakari-: I'm not really happy about the overmapped triplets and I don't think they are necessary here 
14:30 Fort: but looks good
14:30 Fort: :D
14:30 -Bakari-: well, echnically they're rankable 
14:30 Fort: okay i will fix it
14:31 -Bakari-: but they hurt the original rhythm of the song, as the artist did not intend to add those triplets in the song 
14:31 Fort: but without overmapping this map is like aaa
14:31 -Bakari-: you're free to keep 1/4s when they are fitting 
14:32 -Bakari-: or if you really do want to keep overmapped stuff, keep it consistent :c
14:32 Fort: i fix some 1/4 who didnt fit to song
14:35 -Bakari-: btw, some parts like 01:47:364 - are kinda hard to hear
14:35 -Bakari-: can you use louder hitsound there? 
14:35 -Bakari-: I'd say 45% volume instead of 30%
14:35 Fort: okay 45%
14:39 -Bakari-: 03:26:622 (4,5,6,7) - the 1/4 stack combined wth 1/2 feels sorta misleading 
14:39 -Bakari-: unstack 7, maybe? 
14:41 -Bakari-: okay. that's it for the Insane :D 
14:41 Fort: how about this?
14:41 Fort: http://puu.sh/dNDnz/9034d74ca5.jpg
14:41 Fort: i unstack triplet
14:42 -Bakari-: looks nice 
14:42 Fort: yea
14:43 *-Bakari- is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/441175 Tristam & Braken - Frame of Mind [Chill]]
14:43 -Bakari-: 00:18:136 (9) - inaudible hitobjects are not allowed 
14:44 -Bakari-: you can have a 5% volume slidertail, but 5% circle is a no-no thing :c 
14:45 Fort: im fix this one
14:46 -Bakari-: to be honest, I don't really see the point of this diff
14:47 -Bakari-: the music does not suggest insane jumps like 00:58:679 (6,7) - (x5.0+ DS) 
14:47 Fort: cause its my old map
14:47 Fort: :D
14:47 Fort: okay fixed
14:47 -Bakari-: 01:26:708 (5,1,2) - a sudden DS-reduce herehits really hard 
14:48 -Bakari-: try to use higher DS, so it won't be so confusing
14:49 Fort: done
14:52 -Bakari-: I'll post  log and a very short summary of hat we've changed in the beatmaps thread o/
14:52 Fort: i'll update this first
14:54 Fort: okay update the map

Changes:

A few patterns were improved
Minor volume change
Rhythm was fixed in a few parts
General suggestions

Overall, I find harder diffs sorta questionable and appearance of the set might be improved a little.

i will find anything for the hardest diffs
thank you so much <3

Axarious

Former osu! Champion: 2016

333 posts

Joined May 2013

Axarious 2014-12-30T04:00:05+00:00

General

So many inherited points ;;

Crystal's Easy

00:51:821 (5,1) - Can improve slider (1) so it blankets with slider (5)'s tail.
01:02:793 (3) - Move to x:270 to match the 1.19x ds.
01:08:279 (2) - End it 01:09:136 - here to change the polarity to the red tick? Still follows the music with "head - up".
01:17:193 (1) - Maybe a 1/2 slider to change polarity to red as well as following "shat - tered".
01:17:707 - If you do ^, start the 1/1 slider here to match "frame - of"
01:18:564 (1) - Start on 01:18:393 - to match "mind"? Only if you follow the above two steps. Matches the polarity of (2), as well. However, the reverse doesn't match with "in - stead" anymore, it comes early.
01:24:736 (1) - Make this bend 01:25:421 - here? Downbeat and "some - how" on that tick.
01:27:479 (1) - Doesn't really match with the music imo, but it's definitely playable.
02:00:393 (1) - Make the start and end of this slider parallel? You can barely see the second bend of the slider.
02:16:851 (1) - Have the node overlap the second slider tick.
02:30:565 (1) - Start the spinner 02:30:050 - here?
02:36:050 (2) - Extend this slider to the red tick 02:36:907 - here.
02:37:250 (3) - Extend this slider to the white tick 02:38:107 - here, for a polarity change as well as a continuation of "sky".
02:39:478 (5) - Maybe end slider one measure later 02:40:507 - here so there isn't as much of a pause? Continues the sound of "it", too.
02:44:964 (1) - Link Maybe this instead?
03:33:650 (1) - Link ^
03:58:679 (1) - Doesn't match the music too well, imo.

Yauxo's Normal

00:22:336 (3) - Move to x:454 y:52?
00:40:164 (1) - Move to x:258 y:335.
00:40:850 (2) - If you follow ^, move to x:431 y:377.
00:41:536 (3) - You can improve the blanket after moving (2), use two slider anchors before the node to get a better curve.
00:49:764 (2) - Move to x:85 y:143? That's about as close you can get with this blanket.
00:51:821 (2) - Move to x:125 y:140.
00:58:678 (4) - Move to x:218 y:284.
01:07:593 (1) - What a way to start kiai! Nice!
02:43:593 (1) - Move to x:131 to stack with (3)'s tail.
02:50:450 (3) - Move to x:117 y:47 for symmetry?
02:51:136 (4,2) - If you do ^, move this to x:39 y:234 to preserve the ds. Will need some tweaking of slider (1), to fix the blanket and ds.
04:03:136 (1) - Move to x:145 y:166 for an equilateral triangle.

Hard

00:21:650 (2,4) - Ctrl H?
00:24:050 (2) - Slider is too bent imo, maybe straighten it out? Short sliders are ugly when they have a curve in them.
00:31:592 (7) - The curves should have the same magnitude, balance out this slider.
00:39:478 (5,6) - Fix this blanket.
00:42:907 (1) - Link Maybe this instead? Reverse slider matches + emphasizes the drop off.
00:49:764 (1,2,3) - Equilateral triangle? Ctrl G (1) and (2) and then move (2) to x:244 y:130.
01:03:821 (2,3,4) - Ctrl Shift R one of these by 120 degrees to make the others.
01:12:221 (4,5,7) - Messy. Slider (7) overlaps + the bends aren't that appealing.
01:14:450 (4,5) - Tighten slider (5) to make a better blanket. You can do so by moving the end point of slider (5) to x:499 y:278. Will require you to move circle (6) to fix ds.
01:15:650 (7) - Get rid of the first node? Fits the bass a little better that way.
01:18:564 (1) - Move to x:445 y:265 to fix the blanket, but instead creates 1.18x ds.
01:21:135 (8) - Straighten out this slider for aesthetics.
01:35:535 (2,3,4) - That was sudden. First appearance of triples in the map in a non-kiai section.
01:39:478 (2) - 1/2 slider pointed up, maybe. Changes polarity to the red tick so the pause isn't so unreadable.
01:47:707 (7) - Move to x:226 y:116?
02:08:621 (1) - Would look nice if the overlap here was actually larger, move to x:105 y:221?
02:11:364 (1) - Link This instead?
02:29:878 (1) - Rotate 5 degrees around selection center.
02:31:078 (4) - Move to x:214 y:343 to fix the noticeable distance snap.
04:00:050 (4,5,6,7) - Weird to play.

Insane

Holy crap that wall of green inherited points.
01:19:593 (3) - Why two bends in a short 1/2 slider?
01:53:708 (4,5) - Fix blanket.
02:12:736 - Why not map the second "Here - we - come"?
02:49:936 (2,3) - Fix blanket.
02:55:251 (1,2) - ^
03:06:908 (1,1) - Hard to read this. Stream should start 03:07:764 - here, not a measure before.
03:13:765 (1) - Extend spinner to 03:17:878 - here, eliminates the break.
03:29:365 (2,1,5,1) - That'll be hard to read, too.
03:33:993 (3) - Why two bends?
03:38:451 (1) - Put a circle here instead, then a spinner 03:38:536 - here.

Chill

More green inherited point walls, wow!
00:33:222 (3) - I guess you can include this, it's playable and everything but there's no sound.
01:11:536 (3,4,5) - Fix ds.
01:18:393 (4,1) - Fix blanket.
03:07:765 (3,4,5) - Rotate one of these by 120 to make the other two, don't freehand these.
03:09:136 (5,7) - Fix blanket.
03:10:165 (9,10,11,1) - ^

Ciyus Miapah

3,028 posts

Joined June 2013

Topic Starter

Ciyus Miapah 2014-12-30T06:56:31+00:00

Axarious wrote:

General
So many inherited points ;; #yay
Hard
00:21:650 (2,4) - Ctrl H? why ):
00:24:050 (2) - Slider is too bent imo, maybe straighten it out? Short sliders are ugly when they have a curve in them. i think no
00:31:592 (7) - The curves should have the same magnitude, balance out this slider. i was fix it many times, so i will keep this, not really much a problem here
00:39:478 (5,6) - Fix this blanket.
00:42:907 (1) - Link Maybe this instead? Reverse slider matches + emphasizes the drop off. nope, i think sv changes better
00:49:764 (1,2,3) - Equilateral triangle? Ctrl G (1) and (2) and then move (2) to x:244 y:130. i didnt make triangle here
01:03:821 (2,3,4) - Ctrl Shift R one of these by 120 degrees to make the others.
01:12:221 (4,5,7) - Messy. Slider (7) overlaps + the bends aren't that appealing. not really a big problem
01:14:450 (4,5) - Tighten slider (5) to make a better blanket. You can do so by moving the end point of slider (5) to x:499 y:278. Will require you to move circle (6) to fix ds.
01:15:650 (7) - Get rid of the first node? Fits the bass a little better that way. follow vocal
01:18:564 (1) - Move to x:445 y:265 to fix the blanket, but instead creates 1.18x ds.
01:21:135 (8) - Straighten out this slider for aesthetics. nope
01:35:535 (2,3,4) - That was sudden. First appearance of triples in the map in a non-kiai section.
01:39:478 (2) - 1/2 slider pointed up, maybe. Changes polarity to the red tick so the pause isn't so unreadable. it can be unreadable because has long jump who player can see follow point clearly visible
01:47:707 (7) - Move to x:226 y:116?
02:08:621 (1) - Would look nice if the overlap here was actually larger, move to x:105 y:221?
02:11:364 (1) - Link This instead? not necessary thing
02:29:878 (1) - Rotate 5 degrees around selection center.
02:31:078 (4) - Move to x:214 y:343 to fix the noticeable distance snap.
04:00:050 (4,5,6,7) - Weird to play. pattern change
Insane
Holy crap that wall of green inherited points. Thanks
01:19:593 (3) - Why two bends in a short 1/2 slider? cause people will notice that slider
01:53:708 (4,5) - Fix blanket.
02:12:736 - Why not map the second "Here - we - come"? its nicely done if i dont map that part <3
02:49:936 (2,3) - Fix blanket.
02:55:251 (1,2) - ^
03:06:908 (1,1) - Hard to read this. Stream should start 03:07:764 - here, not a measure before.
03:13:765 (1) - Extend spinner to 03:17:878 - here, eliminates the break. no, done spinning and do sudden stream so crap damn hard
03:29:365 (2,1,5,1) - That'll be hard to read, too. i have something in there
03:33:993 (3) - Why two bends? ^ same like above
03:38:451 (1) - Put a circle here instead, then a spinner 03:38:536 - here. not really good
Chill
More green inherited point walls, wow! Big Thanks
00:33:222 (3) - I guess you can include this, it's playable and everything but there's no sound. not really, it has soft sample
01:11:536 (3,4,5) - Fix ds.
01:18:393 (4,1) - Fix blanket.
03:07:765 (3,4,5) - Rotate one of these by 120 to make the other two, don't freehand these.
03:09:136 (5,7) - Fix blanket.
03:10:165 (9,10,11,1) - ^

okay fixed all except the red marked, thanks for mods, im very like it especially in Chill diff

Crystal

Former osu!catch Champion: 2018

1,123 posts

Joined June 2012

Crystal 2014-12-30T12:11:39+00:00

Axarious wrote:

General
So many inherited points ;;
Crystal's Easy
00:51:821 (5,1) - Can improve slider (1) so it blankets with slider (5)'s tail. i think mine is already okay since i didn't mean to blanket them
01:02:793 (3) - Move to x:270 to match the 1.19x ds. ok
01:08:279 (2) - End it 01:09:136 - here to change the polarity to the red tick? Still follows the music with "head - up".good idea
01:17:193 (1) - Maybe a 1/2 slider to change polarity to red as well as following "shat - tered". maybe it is enough
01:17:707 - If you do ^, start the 1/1 slider here to match "frame - of"
01:18:564 (1) - Start on 01:18:393 - to match "mind"? Only if you follow the above two steps. Matches the polarity of (2), as well. However, the reverse doesn't match with "in - stead" anymore, it comes early.
01:24:736 (1) - Make this bend 01:25:421 - here? Downbeat and "some - how" on that tick. ok
01:27:479 (1) - Doesn't really match with the music imo, but it's definitely playable. i will consider later
02:00:393 (1) - Make the start and end of this slider parallel? You can barely see the second bend of the slider. i changed to another pattern
02:16:851 (1) - Have the node overlap the second slider tick. fixed
02:30:565 (1) - Start the spinner 02:30:050 - here? i prefer mine ;w;
02:36:050 (2) - Extend this slider to the red tick 02:36:907 - here. fixed
02:37:250 (3) - Extend this slider to the white tick 02:38:107 - here, for a polarity change as well as a continuation of "sky". fixed with the same pattern before
02:39:478 (5) - Maybe end slider one measure later 02:40:507 - here so there isn't as much of a pause? Continues the sound of "it", too. hmm i think it is too hard for easy
02:44:964 (1) - Link Maybe this instead? it is to keep consistant as well
03:33:650 (1) - Link ^ i changed to another one
03:58:679 (1) - Doesn't match the music too well, imo. fixed

@Neil Leo: thank you for noticing me, but it seems that 1 full measure is enough although it is higher than 160. let BATs confirm whether it is okay!

thanks for modding!!

update

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Yauxo

1,622 posts

Joined June 2011

Yauxo 2014-12-30T18:29:58+00:00

So, uhm, yea. Small update

Iam currently ill, having fever and cant do anything thats related to mapping on my laptop (nor do I want to) so I'll have to do stuffs later on.

Then, I dont see why exactly Iam supposed to make this Normal more difficult. Iam not gonna add inconsistent and random 1/2 beats into a DnB Song with a simple and repeating beat where they dont fit. I even made sure that I use more Circles than I had in my old version of the map. The SV should be slightly higher too. Starrating is not the way to go imo. I think the map is fine the way it is. (Though, I will take a look at it to see where I could change things that'd statisfy me as well)
Also, neither do I agree on the remap of yours, Fort. I didnt take a look at it yet, but you cant just remap it on your own without asking me. Come on. Getting this ranked is one thing, but just forcing it isnt the way to go.

Birdy

5,757 posts

Joined April 2011

Birdy 2014-12-31T05:15:57+00:00

[Easy]
00:14:793 (4,5) - These need to start where they currently end to emphasize the starting beat of the respective bar. Also later add a circle at 00:14:793.
00:24:393 (1,2) - Design suggestion. Start the second slider at x400 y20 and curve it:

Here.

00:42:222 (2) - Would be good if you curved this just a little more to match (1)'s track. Example: middlepoint at x420 y284, end at x348 y284.
00:53:193 (1) - Should blanket (5)'s end. Also move the red point one square upwards.
01:24:736 (1) - I think the red point should be at either of the beats (white lines), not in the middle (red line). Doesn't follow the music properly this way.
02:57:308 (5) - The long break starting from here is completely unnecessary and doesn't occur in any other difficulty. Please map it.
03:33:651 (1) - Move to x504 y140 for a proper blanket.

[Normal]
00:34:336 (4,2) - Unnecessary overlap, could be avoided.
01:23:364 (4,5,6,1) - Such a random distance snap change is a no-no in Normal diff. Snap 'em properly.
01:37:078 (4,5) - ^
02:27:136 (1,3) - These would be really nice as 6/4 sliders. Just remove (2) and (4) and extend them.

[Hard]
00:29:192 (1) - No need to extend this slider an extra 1/4 when there's absolutely no reason to. Shorten it.
00:38:107 (2) - ^ augh.
01:23:535 (7,8) - Feel like this stack could be, you know, not stacked. Perhaps move (8) upwards so that it forms a triangle.
02:02:450 (1) - Should be not in contact with (2). x200 y84 could work.
02:44:278 (1) - The snare in the middle desperately needs a hit object. This slider completely ignores the rhythm.
Overall the flow is pretty weird but I guess this works.

[Insane]
00:23:708 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,1) - So, about those unnecessarily extended sliders. Holy shit.
Several other sections with these too, as you probably know, though they aren't that distracting.
01:24:393 (3,1) - Overlap could be avoided, even though it's not really distracting.
01:29:536 (1) - Moving to x512 y264 could work better design- and flow-wise.
02:36:393 (3) - In a weird position when we look at the stack overlapping this. x160 y64 could work.

[Chill bro]
00:20:878 - Could use a similar "lead-in note" as at 00:15:393 (9).
And then again, same extended sliders @ 00:23:708.
I can't really say anything about this stuff as I have absolutely no experience with it, but I guess it at least looks good.

Good luck.

Ciyus Miapah

3,028 posts

Joined June 2013

Topic Starter

Ciyus Miapah 2014-12-31T08:45:20+00:00

Yauxo wrote:
So, uhm, yea. Small update

Iam currently ill, having fever and cant do anything thats related to mapping on my laptop (nor do I want to) so I'll have to do stuffs later on.

Then, I dont see why exactly Iam supposed to make this Normal more difficult. Iam not gonna add inconsistent and random 1/2 beats into a DnB Song with a simple and repeating beat where they dont fit. I even made sure that I use more Circles than I had in my old version of the map. The SV should be slightly higher too. Starrating is not the way to go imo. I think the map is fine the way it is. (Though, I will take a look at it to see where I could change things that'd statisfy me as well)
Also, neither do I agree on the remap of yours, Fort. I didnt take a look at it yet, but you cant just remap it on your own without asking me. Come on. Getting this ranked is one thing, but just forcing it isnt the way to go.

sorry but im just add some necessary notes to make it have 2 star rating, im really sorry for editing your map without permission ;_;

Static Noise Bird wrote:
[Hard]
00:29:192 (1) - No need to extend this slider an extra 1/4 when there's absolutely no reason to. Shorten it.
00:38:107 (2) - ^ augh.
01:23:535 (7,8) - Feel like this stack could be, you know, not stacked. Perhaps move (8) upwards so that it forms a triangle. i think no for this one
02:02:450 (1) - Should be not in contact with (2). x200 y84 could work. maybe no, it's okay overlap in there
02:44:278 (1) - The snare in the middle desperately needs a hit object. This slider completely ignores the rhythm. im follow vocal, so it's not really a big problem
Overall the flow is pretty weird but I guess this works. lol, wierd but good xD

[Insane]
00:23:708 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,1) - So, about those unnecessarily extended sliders. Holy shit. its some happy pattern /o/
Several other sections with these too, as you probably know, though they aren't that distracting.
01:24:393 (3,1) - Overlap could be avoided, even though it's not really distracting. jump like that is good, i will keep it
01:29:536 (1) - Moving to x512 y264 could work better design- and flow-wise.
02:36:393 (3) - In a weird position when we look at the stack overlapping this. x160 y64 could work. i think its okay

[Chill bro]
00:20:878 - Could use a similar "lead-in note" as at 00:15:393 (9). no, i think it's overmapped, i was hear this part many times
And then again, same extended sliders @ 00:23:708. hehe
I can't really say anything about this stuff as I have absolutely no experience with it, but I guess it at least looks good. yea i guess so

Good luck.

Yauxo

1,622 posts

Joined June 2011

Yauxo 2014-12-31T11:54:29+00:00

So, this is all I can do

- Changed some fitting 1/1 Sliders into 1/2 + Circle
- Changed some 1/1 Sliders into two Circles
- Changed some 2/1 Sliderpatterns into variant patterns (f.e 1/1 Slider + 1/2 Slider + Circle)

The starrating is 1.97, there really isnt anything to "fix" to force this to 2.x, neither is that a good idea imo. It's a DnB Song. I didnt want and dont want to overmap it with random rhythm changes, neither do I like normals with high SV so that the objects are 10 miles apart from each other.

Comparing the Easy to the Normal, the Normal fits in there very well imo. If you guys want to change something to the spread, remove some of the triplets in Hard.

Static Noise Bird wrote:
[Normal]
00:34:336 (4,2) - Unnecessary overlap, could be avoided. Doesnt matter, as it's not really visible ingame, unless you really wait for this thing to happen. It's vanished as soon as the Slider fully appears http://puu.sh/dTcAp/c687c4cacd.jpg
01:23:364 (4,5,6,1) - Such a random distance snap change is a no-no in Normal diff. Snap 'em properly. That was probably from Fort's "remap". No random DS change to be seen here on my map
01:37:078 (4,5) - ^
02:27:136 (1,3) - These would be really nice as 6/4 sliders. Just remove (2) and (4) and extend them. true, applied

Axarious wrote:
Yauxo's Normal
00:22:336 (3) - Move to x:454 y:52?
00:40:164 (1) - Move to x:258 y:335.
00:40:850 (2) - If you follow ^, move to x:431 y:377.
00:41:536 (3) - You can improve the blanket after moving (2), use two slider anchors before the node to get a better curve.
00:49:764 (2) - Move to x:85 y:143? That's about as close you can get with this blanket.
00:51:821 (2) - Move to x:125 y:140.
00:58:678 (4) - Move to x:218 y:284.
01:07:593 (1) - What a way to start kiai! Nice!
02:43:593 (1) - Move to x:131 to stack with (3)'s tail.
02:50:450 (3) - Move to x:117 y:47 for symmetry?
02:51:136 (4,2) - If you do ^, move this to x:39 y:234 to preserve the ds. Will need some tweaking of slider (1), to fix the blanket and ds.
04:03:136 (1) - Move to x:145 y:166 for an equilateral triangle.
applied all

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Ciyus Miapah

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Ciyus Miapah 2014-12-31T12:43:25+00:00

Yauxo wrote:
So, this is all I can do

- Changed some fitting 1/1 Sliders into 1/2 + Circle
- Changed some 1/1 Sliders into two Circles
- Changed some 2/1 Sliderpatterns into variant patterns (f.e 1/1 Slider + 1/2 Slider + Circle)

The starrating is 1.97, there really isnt anything to "fix" to force this to 2.x, neither is that a good idea imo. It's a DnB Song. I didnt want and dont want to overmap it with random rhythm changes, neither do I like normals with high SV so that the objects are 10 miles apart from each other.

Comparing the Easy to the Normal, the Normal fits in there very well imo. If you guys want to change something to the spread, remove some of the triplets in Hard.

im just delete all triplets in hard diff, and my apologize to force your diff into 2.xx star rating, but my suggestion is turn cs to 3.5 or 3.6 can be helped increase star rating without changing your pattern. i was thinking about that.

edit: reply this post and i will find bat for check this map (:

Shohei Ohtani

Shohei Ohtani 2015-01-02T10:01:37+00:00

before I bubble this, pls recheck this with AiMod. There's a lot of big issues ;w;!

Shohei Ohtani

Shohei Ohtani 2015-01-02T13:10:00+00:00

boop

Ciyus Miapah

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Ciyus Miapah 2015-01-02T13:21:01+00:00

CDFA wrote:
boop

\o\ yeaaaaaaaaaaaah! /o/

Ryu Sei

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Ryu Sei 2015-01-02T13:22:54+00:00

Go rank it or I'll hate you, Fort~

Ciyus Miapah

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Ciyus Miapah 2015-01-02T13:25:51+00:00

Ryu Sei wrote:
Go rank it or I'll hate you, Fort~

i will rank it, if i can't just hate me and kill me

PatZar

3,079 posts

Joined March 2013

PatZar 2015-01-04T19:25:51+00:00

Fort wrote:
Ryu Sei wrote:
Go rank it or I'll hate you, Fort~
i will rank it, if i can't just hate me and kill me

fort.3gp

Arzenvald

4,062 posts

Joined July 2013

Arzenvald 2015-01-05T02:34:32+00:00

00:00:000 - this patterns looking good, you are looking good too.. now kds..

lol jk, fort teu di rank, ku aing klepak jadi ganteng siah.. :u

Ciyus Miapah

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Ciyus Miapah 2015-01-05T03:50:40+00:00

Genocide wrote:
fort.3gp

ExUsagi wrote:
00:00:000 - this patterns looking good, you are looking good too.. now kds..

lol jk, fort teu di rank, ku aing klepak jadi ganteng siah.. :u

komennya D:

Ginshu

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Joined May 2014

Ginshu 2015-01-06T08:30:51+00:00

kalo gk di rank gua delete char

♥ ♥ ♥

Ciyus Miapah

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Ciyus Miapah 2015-01-06T09:35:02+00:00

LNP- wrote:
kalo gk di rank gua delete char

♥ ♥ ♥

lah jgn gitu ;_;

troke

915 posts

Joined August 2013

troke 2015-01-06T13:10:54+00:00

rank !!

wcx19911123

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Joined June 2010

wcx19911123 2015-01-06T17:38:00+00:00

as request

[General]
cancel sb warning in Easy diff
unused hitsound file: normal-slidertick7.wav

[Crystal's Easy]
00:30:564 - this clap sounds really odd, why not remove it?
00:51:821 (5,1) - they can blanket better
01:50:107 - soft hitsound for the spinner end is better imo
03:39:136 (1,2,1) - they can blanket better

[Yauxo's Normal]
03:29:707 (5,6) - I suggest make them into a repeat slider, or the pattern is a bit hard to play
really nice diff

[Hard]
01:14:450 (4,5) - blanket can be better, especially the 5's tail
01:38:964 (4) - this note plays not that good. cuz there's a beat at 01:38:878 - in the music, it sounds like the hitnormal. the note at 01:38:964 - sounds like it is at 01:38:878 - . it's a bit confusing imo. I suggest to remove this note or change the rhythm a bit
02:13:421 - the break should start at here. cuz it sounds a bit delay if you put a note at 02:13:464 -
03:02:278 (9,1) - blanket can be better
03:41:450 - this break starting should be canceled(add a note at 03:41:536 - and then remove it)

[Insane]
00:44:278 - this note is too loud imo, there is no sounds in the song here except the vocal
01:15:136 (7,8) - this jump is not hard to play but hard to read, you'd better to reduce the spacing a bit
02:05:536 - better to add NC here to make the anti-jump easier to read
02:13:421 - same as Hard here
03:34:336 (4) - how about ctrl+g on this. flow can be better imo

[Chill]
03:07:764 (3,4,5) - this spacing is too huge imo.. I suggest to reduce the spacing a bit
03:29:365 (4,5,6,7) - the spacing looks the same, but the time gap is not. 03:29:365 (4,5) - 1/2 time gap here and others are all 1/4, this pattern is really confusing to read. I suggest to extend the spacing at 03:29:365 (4,5) - and reduce the spacing at 03:29:708 (5,6,7,1) -

call me back then

Ciyus Miapah

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Ciyus Miapah 2015-01-07T07:51:41+00:00

wcx19911123 wrote:
as request

[General]
cancel sb warning in Easy diff
unused hitsound file: normal-slidertick7.wav Okay for this

[Hard]
01:14:450 (4,5) - blanket can be better, especially the 5's tail
01:38:964 (4) - this note plays not that good. cuz there's a beat at 01:38:878 - in the music, it sounds like the hitnormal. the note at 01:38:964 - sounds like it is at 01:38:878 - . it's a bit confusing imo. I suggest to remove this note or change the rhythm a bit
02:13:421 - the break should start at here. cuz it sounds a bit delay if you put a note at 02:13:464 -
03:02:278 (9,1) - blanket can be better
03:41:450 - this break starting should be canceled(add a note at 03:41:536 - and then remove it)

[Insane]
00:44:278 - this note is too loud imo, there is no sounds in the song here except the vocal
01:15:136 (7,8) - this jump is not hard to play but hard to read, you'd better to reduce the spacing a bit
02:05:536 - better to add NC here to make the anti-jump easier to read
02:13:421 - same as Hard here
03:34:336 (4) - how about ctrl+g on this. flow can be better imo

[Chill]
03:07:764 (3,4,5) - this spacing is too huge imo.. I suggest to reduce the spacing a bit in kiai end i prefer some high jump here
03:29:365 (4,5,6,7) - the spacing looks the same, but the time gap is not. 03:29:365 (4,5) - 1/2 time gap here and others are all 1/4, this pattern is really confusing to read. I suggest to extend the spacing at 03:29:365 (4,5) - and reduce the spacing at 03:29:708 (5,6,7,1) -

call me back then

okay fixed all except the red one. i will call crystal and yauxo for this

Crystal

Former osu!catch Champion: 2018

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Crystal 2015-01-07T11:29:55+00:00

@wcx: all fixed including the sb warning.

update

osu file format v13

[General]
AudioFilename: [DnB] - Tristam &amp; Braken - Frame of Mind [Monstercat Release].mp3
AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 156093
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Soft
StackLeniency: 0.7
Mode: 0
LetterboxInBreaks: 1
WidescreenStoryboard: 0

[Editor]
Bookmarks: 111520,133463,144434,221234,232206
DistanceSpacing: 1.2
BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 4
TimelineZoom: 1.6

[Metadata]
Title:Frame of Mind
TitleUnicode:Frame of Mind
Artist:Tristam & Braken
ArtistUnicode:Tristam & Braken
Creator:Fort
Version:Crystal's Easy
Source:
Tags:Monstercat monster cat release liquid drum and bass dnb featuring yauxo crystal [_crystal]
BeatmapID:441525
BeatmapSetID:177523

[Difficulty]
HPDrainRate:2
CircleSize:2.5
OverallDifficulty:2
ApproachRate:3
SliderMultiplier:0.6
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//Storyboard Layer 3 (Foreground)
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Yauxo

1,622 posts

Joined June 2011

Yauxo 2015-01-07T14:45:30+00:00

Changed the one thing. Also changed the CS by .1 and fixed a NC error

osu file format v13

[General]
AudioFilename: [DnB] - Tristam &amp; Braken - Frame of Mind [Monstercat Release].mp3
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[Editor]
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[Metadata]
Title:Frame of Mind
TitleUnicode:Frame of Mind
Artist:Tristam & Braken
ArtistUnicode:Tristam & Braken
Creator:Fort
Version:Yauxo's Normal
Source:
Tags:Monstercat monster cat release liquid drum and bass dnb featuring yauxo crystal [_crystal]
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Ciyus Miapah

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Ciyus Miapah 2015-01-08T08:27:16+00:00

updated all

wcx19911123

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wcx19911123 2015-01-08T17:13:41+00:00

qualified

guineaQ

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guineaQ 2015-01-08T17:25:26+00:00

yeahhhhh Foooort

Toastedsalad

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Toastedsalad 2015-01-08T17:35:37+00:00

Did a few runs of chill diff.
a few small things make this map very annoying to fully enjoy
- sometimes the hitsounds are inaudible
- 00:55:765 (4,1) - sudden big jump (x3.36) without musical cue
- 01:24:308 (2,3) - & 02:57:308 (1,2,3,4) - and some other things that make me go "wtf was that part about", feel like it was mapped just to be harder

Secretpipe

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Secretpipe 2015-01-08T17:58:02+00:00

Congratz for your first ranked map I guess @Fort

Avena

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Avena 2015-01-08T19:08:46+00:00

Gratz!
Just saying though, this will most likely get dq'd due to "Chill" not fitting a hardest diff, if anything it'll fit an Easy.

Yauxo

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Yauxo 2015-01-08T22:09:53+00:00

Congratz :3

PatZar

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PatZar 2015-01-08T22:11:03+00:00

Secretpipe wrote:
Congratz for your first ranked map I guess @Fort

Shiranai

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Shiranai 2015-01-08T22:50:02+00:00

Walaupun nanti disqualified tetep semangat fort!
Untuk sementara enjoy your first qualified map😜

Smudge

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Smudge 2015-01-08T23:33:25+00:00

Congrats! I've been waiting for this ;D

Sellenite

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Sellenite 2015-01-09T00:59:30+00:00

congrats!

Aka

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Aka 2015-01-09T03:42:43+00:00

Chill diff is pretty much out of the rhythm, triplets are placed where 1/1 would suit much better and moments when they actually suit are done with 1/1, same goes with insane diff, just saying..

well, ikr its a dnb track but its a pity its done in this way. and sorry that i didnt get there before lmao

Shohei Ohtani

Shohei Ohtani 2015-01-09T03:48:01+00:00

whoops

Ciyus Miapah

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Ciyus Miapah 2015-01-09T04:23:28+00:00

i feel so happy for now, but if something in map happen here, i will take it and i promise i will rerank it if this map Disqualified, I PROMISE!

Toastedsalad wrote:
Did a few runs of chill diff.
a few small things make this map very annoying to fully enjoy
- sometimes the hitsounds are inaudible you right i check it in previous update it was normal offset but why in here is -1/+1 offset
- 00:55:765 (4,1) - sudden big jump (x3.36) without musical cue its okay, but i will make sure my map playable
- 01:24:308 (2,3) - & 02:57:308 (1,2,3,4) - and some other things that make me go "wtf was that part about", feel like it was mapped just to be harder

Yeah seems i need to fix it all.

Priti wrote:
Gratz!
Just saying though, this will most likely get dq'd due to "Chill" not fitting a hardest diff, if anything it'll fit an Easy.

please priti, Chill means cold hearted and cold blood and didnt related to Easy diff, you get it wrong. and it was custom diff names in hardest diff.

Mako Sakata wrote:
Walaupun nanti disqualified tetep semangat fort!
Untuk sementara enjoy your first qualified map😜

saya tau kejadian seperti ini bakalan terjadi. Jadi lebih baik map ini mendapatkan disqualifikasi daripada tetap jadi map ranked. dan makasih ya untuk semangatnya

Aka wrote:
Chill diff is pretty much out of the rhythm, triplets are placed where 1/1 would suit much better and moments when they actually suit are done with 1/1, same goes with insane diff, just saying..

well, ikr its a dnb track but its a pity its done in this way. and sorry that i didnt get there before lmao

yeah im too fast to say it to you, and i will come back for you if my map was rebubbled or whatever

CDFA wrote:
whoops

i was wondering you feel ;_;

jyu

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jyu 2015-01-09T08:13:03+00:00

i know how this feel wwwww anyway congratz!!

Priti wrote:
Just saying though, this will most likely get dq'd due to "Chill" not fitting a hardest diff, if anything it'll fit an Easy.

*slow clap*

Nyxa

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Nyxa 2015-01-09T13:30:25+00:00

Inaudible hitsounds, too many muted sliderends, bad aesthetics, flow is meh, inconsistent hitsounding, inconsistent patterning, inconsistent rhythms and random spacing...

So, DQ when?

Ciyus Miapah

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Ciyus Miapah 2015-01-09T14:17:30+00:00

Tess wrote:
Inaudible hitsounds just disable custom hitsound, too many muted sliderends okay since it didnt clickable objects, bad aesthetics it's your feeling, flow is meh you do it wrong, inconsistent hitsounding need some variation, inconsistent patterning blah, inconsistent rhythms and random spacing... its okay in hardest diff

So, DQ when? soon XD

i didnt really see your epic mod here, it just glit on inheritted timing points

Rei Hakurei

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Rei Hakurei 2015-01-09T16:20:31+00:00

how could you rank a map, if you didn't even want to listen to what people say.

Nyxa

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Nyxa 2015-01-09T22:10:59+00:00

Fort wrote:
just disable custom hitsound

Instead of telling the player to disable your hitsounds, you could, you know, use good hitsounds?

Fort wrote:
okay since it didnt clickable objects

Actually muted sliderends are to be used sparingly and only where they fit, they're not to be spammed all over the place just because "it didnt clickable objects".

Fort wrote:
it's your feeling

Aesthetics are objective, though. It's to do with symmetry. No, not Andrea-style x-axis symmetry, but all forms of symmetry, such as rotational symmetry, inverted symmetry, subtle symmetry, internal symmetry and asymmetry. Your map has little to none of this, which makes it look sloppy, and amateuristic.

Fort wrote:
you do it wrong

What exactly am I doing wrong? It's your flow, not mine.

Fort wrote:
need some variation

If there's no variation in the song, there should be no variation in your hitsounds, and the minimal amount of variation in your patterns. "needs variation" is no excuse for just random mapping.

Fort wrote:
blah

Nice.

Fort wrote:
its okay in hardest diff

"bad mapping is okay because hardest diff"
Are you serious?

Fort wrote:
i didnt really see your epic mod here, it just glit on inheritted timing points

It wasn't a mod, it was a comment, and I have no clue where you're pulling inherited timing sections from because I never once mentioned any of those.

Improving your attitude as a mapper will improve your mapping and thus the players' attitude towards your maps.

bibilicu

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bibilicu 2015-01-09T22:31:27+00:00

Gratz for your first ranked map ! XDD

Jenny

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Jenny 2015-01-09T23:44:58+00:00

So.. am I supposed to be looking at this or something?

Also, what kind of an attitude is this, seriously.

Ciyus Miapah

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Ciyus Miapah 2015-01-10T00:21:14+00:00

okay i will be back for this

theramdans

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theramdans 2015-01-10T00:32:23+00:00

gonna check this later today

Frostmourne

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Frostmourne 2015-01-10T00:32:31+00:00

Kaguya Hourain wrote:

also gratz for the first rank!

Edit: On a serious note, the only one thing if I disqualified this map as I were QAT would be inaudible hitsounds on many places.
Example
01:23:193 (2) -
01:24:308 (2) -
01:30:822 (7,8) -
01:33:136 (6,7) - the music sounds heavily here, I see no reason why you wanted it silent this way as same as 01:33:479 (8) - 's tail
01:35:879 (5) -
01:47:364 (1,2,4,5) -
and the likes

Flow and triplets are pretty ok. I don't know if anyone here is qualified enough to determine what good flow is if you can't play properly.

00:23:708 (1) - to 00:44:279 (3) -
I don't think it's a good idea to silence slides' end just to force players to hold the sliders from one to another. extended sliders are not always appreciated by me though

Last edited by Frostmourne 2015-01-10T00:58:27+00:00, edited 2 times in total.

Ciyus Miapah

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Ciyus Miapah 2015-01-10T04:11:48+00:00

Frostmourne wrote:
Kaguya Hourain wrote:
also gratz for the first rank!

Edit: On a serious note, the only one thing if I disqualified this map as I were QAT would be inaudible hitsounds on many places.
Example
01:23:193 (2) -
01:24:308 (2) -
01:30:822 (7,8) -
01:33:136 (6,7) - the music sounds heavily here, I see no reason why you wanted it silent this way as same as 01:33:479 (8) - 's tail
01:35:879 (5) -
01:47:364 (1,2,4,5) -
and the likes

Flow and triplets are pretty ok. I don't know if anyone here is qualified enough to determine what good flow is if you can't play properly.

00:23:708 (1) - to 00:44:279 (3) -
I don't think it's a good idea to silence slides' end just to force players to hold the sliders from one to another. extended sliders are not always appreciated by me though

yea you exactly right, that thing still inaudiable even with 40% - 100% volume ;_;, soft sample hitsound very low.....

jyu

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jyu 2015-01-10T07:25:00+00:00

inverness wrote:
People like you are literally the reason why this game remains cancerous. Good job being an arrogant asshat shit.

Rei Hakurei wrote:
how could you rank a map, if you didn't even want to listen to what people say.

edit : am i the only one here who have no problem with the slienced sliderends? well idk if a lot of people dislike it then might as well dq. it won't hurt anyway

El SolarBeam

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El SolarBeam 2015-01-10T08:09:37+00:00

Well, those who come with a harsh-sounded comments can actually said more that this on the old time, just so you know. They're just holding back these days because more and more people ask to do so. I can say they're still going easy at this rate, hence it's better to respect their opinion and experience than plainly spitting it out (or so on my perspective, sorry). Anyway I agree with Frosty, the so-considered unrankable thing is just the inaudible hitsounds, the way you make the pattern is just fine in the meantime (also from my perspective), but well, I won't say that it wouldn't cause a controversy either.

on further note, I also like drama hunting lmao

Shohei Ohtani

Shohei Ohtani 2015-01-10T08:22:46+00:00

nothing better than that post-rank modding

Ciyus Miapah

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Ciyus Miapah 2015-01-10T09:35:05+00:00

im just thinking what the hell i am, this just my old map style. i keep it until now, and this is the result. #2015 too brutal for me

69653863

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69653863 2015-01-10T14:47:28+00:00

Like I'm not chill enough.

The mapper is being plain arrogant by wording things in the way that made him looks like he knows everything. Moreover it seems that not even himself actually realized about that already.

Fort wrote:
blah

Fort wrote:
i didnt really see your epic mod here

and all the other shit. Is this kind of attitude is what we're looking for?
That's my main point. Hell, I don't even care about the map, it is the mapper's (and every single other mapper that does so in a somewhat similar way) attitude that sickens me

I'm done here.

Rei Hakurei

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Rei Hakurei 2015-01-10T14:56:49+00:00

basically, you've ranked your map, and now,

you're absolutely selfish about any incoming advices, what kind of attitude is that?
even though it came late, is there any reason to ignore it?

so basically should i say, or should i blame the one that helps you is... meh.

Nyxa

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Nyxa 2015-01-10T15:28:30+00:00

A pattern being playable doesn't make it good, you know. Even if it's comfortably playable.

Just look at it this way; imagine you buy the newest Call of Duty: Black Warfare 12. You take it home, open the package, and inside is just a standard Sony DVD with nothing but CoD:BW12 written on it. You shrug and pop it into your BoxStationCube 2 and wait for the game to load. The menu pops up, but there's no cool sound effects, just a black background with white letters writing "New Game", "Load game", etc. You think it's kinda weird but okay, you hit new game and start playing. There's no cool cinematic cut-in scene, no story, you just get plopped into a fully animated 3D environment with little to no skinning done, and only meager sound effects, just the bare necessity to be able to play. On top of that, you can fully move and control your character but the movements feel unnatural and the characters aren't all that pleasant to control. However, despite all of this, it's perfectly possible to play the game from start to end on the hardest difficulty without too many troubles gameplay-wise, other than the aforementioned.

Would you enjoy the game? Yes, the game is just fine, it's playable, it has everything that it needs. But would it be enjoyable? You'd think it's sloppy and that the game makers were lazy and like you not only wasted your money to buy the damn thing, you also wasted your time to even go as far as level 1. You know the makers could've done better and they just didn't. So you go to the company, ask to file a complaint and get to talk to the chief director of the department that made that game. You point out all the flaws, and then the director looks you straight in the eye and says;

im just thinking what the hell i am, this just my old game design style. i keep it until now, and this is the result. #2015 too brutal for me

Ciyus Miapah

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Ciyus Miapah 2015-01-10T15:28:57+00:00

inverness wrote:
Like I'm not chill enough.

The mapper is being plain arrogant by wording things in the way that made him looks like he knows everything. Moreover it seems that not even himself actually realized about that already.

Fort wrote:
blah
Fort wrote:
i didnt really see your epic mod here
and all the other shit. Is this kind of attitude is what we're looking for?
That's my main point. Hell, I don't even care about the map, it is the mapper's (and every single other mapper that does so in a somewhat similar way) attitude that sickens me

I'm done here.

Rei Hakurei wrote:
basically, you've ranked your map, and now,

you're absolutely selfish about any incoming advices, what kind of attitude is that?
even though it came late, is there any reason to ignore it?

so basically should i say, or should i blame the one that helps you is... meh.

i was wrong. once again i feel so sorry, but at least you respect from my work and this map rank. i know this map will be DQ'ed but i know my old mapping style ruined your play style. and my stupid attitude who make me even stronger, and sorry to people who modding this and appreciate time for my map, i feel like a dumb, "why i keep my old mapping style?" just it i can say, keep pushing and pushing and pushing i train my mapping skill like this, i will map with better maps, better project, better style as you all wish. No random jumps, no inconsistent spacing, no dumbest diff name, everything will be fine next time.

maybe you're all right, i cant even have mapping style. atleast this is my ~30th map who can be ranked for now. if it dq'ed it's okay maybe people will be happy if i didnt rank this map. i will rerank it with better maps. "be yourself, i'll be strong and brace, and everything will be okay". im ready QAT

69653863

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69653863 2015-01-10T15:47:08+00:00

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Shiro

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Shiro 2015-01-10T17:29:50+00:00

Hello Fort ! Sorry, but I have to disqualify this. The mapset has numerous silenced objects, especially circles, which are not rankable. Please raise the volume on these sections to make them properly audible.

A couple more things:
[Chill]
03:18:565 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - it would be better to stack first, then expand the stream, rather than the other way around

[Insane]
03:19:936 (5,6) - A stack here is rather unintuitive. The song calls for more movement, and it would be more consistent to use a jump here (like in the rest of the chorus).

The Chill difficulty sometimes weird movement and inconsistent spacing (check the 1/4 mostly). Please go over it again. Getting a few more mods wouldn't hurt, too.

The map will be handled by BATs from now on. Good luck for the rerank!

Irreversible

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Irreversible 2015-01-10T17:31:02+00:00

Hi there,

just wanted to point up some things (together with Shiro's unranking post)

Inaudible HitsoundsHitsounding in generalDifferent issues concerning the gameplay

Inaudible Hitsounds

So, first of all, the unrankable issue is certainly the inaudible stuff, which appears everywhere. You should choose different hitsounds, to make sure it's cleraly hearable. Let me point up some examples, in case you don't understand:

Chill diff: 01:59:536 (2) - 02:27:051 (5) - 02:44:193 (3) - etc.
Insane diff: 02:57:307 (1) - The song isn't as weak as you show it with your 40% hitsound, it's way too silent as it would compliment the song properly. Please increase the overall volume. 03:18:564 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - too silent, too.

Although silenced sliderends are acceptable, they honestly spoken don't fit at most places here, you should revise them, as well.

Hitsounding in general

00:12:736 (1) - It's things like these that stand out to me; I do see a little difference in the song between 00:12:736 (1) - and 00:15:478 (1) - , but the difference between the hitsounding is way too big, and it's rather giving me question marks than anything else to be honest. You can leave it if you like, that's more of a personal issue.

I hope the general hitsounding will improve anyway, when you fixed the inaudible issues

Different issues concerning the gameplay

I think there have been enough comments (which you've read) about it already. Please take a look again, and try to fix up stuff yourself, I personally don't have to add much more things than that, since it's true that the overall placement appears quite random, and things like flow can be improved. I know a comment like that isn't helpful, and I'll come back to mod that after the unrankable things have been fixed.

Good luck, and don't hesitate asking me if there are things you can't understand.

Bearizm

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Bearizm 2015-01-10T17:35:43+00:00

Aka wrote:
Chill diff is pretty much out of the rhythm, triplets are placed where 1/1 would suit much better and moments when they actually suit are done with 1/1, same goes with insane diff, just saying..

well, ikr its a dnb track but its a pity its done in this way. and sorry that i didnt get there before lmao

I think that people abuse dnb to spam triples... it kind of bugs me..... but oh well what can u do, just my view on things. After all, you can literally put a bunch of triples consecutively and get it ranked if it's a dnb map.

*cough* United *cough

oh well that's a different map so.. ye..

btw fort, the insane's last bit is..... it plays horrible. triple over a 1/2 note overlapping is never a good idea imo.

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PatZar

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PatZar 2015-01-10T20:41:05+00:00

LOL another drama b4 DQ
gajelas lanjutkan
also keep it up fort!

Ciyus Miapah

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Ciyus Miapah 2015-01-10T22:53:09+00:00

Episode 2 begin

zeroclover

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zeroclover 2015-01-11T01:42:18+00:00

you guys just have a big mouth because having a ranked map and start to make chaos and insulting to other mappers and modders
and also Genocide, if you want get another long lenght silenced, just ask chat moderator, they will glad to do it
also, any BATs/QATs/GMTs help to kudosu this modders

-Toastedsalad
-Aka
-Tess
-Frostmourne

if you want start debate and post a shit at social media like twitter or facebook as a war , im ready at anytimes when i available
and pls dont do it in this thread

also, pls use a tag as a good reason to help player search your map
*featuring* in tag was not worth
^ a single short mod, so im not a random ppl here

Ciyus Miapah

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Ciyus Miapah 2015-01-11T02:07:00+00:00

thanks to your suggestion.
note: i will make a shattered frame of mind into a slightly better frame of mind

Starfy

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Starfy 2015-01-11T10:15:50+00:00

Hi Fort

Savelog

17:46 Fort: hello starfy
17:46 StarForYou: hi fort
17:47 Fort: i think i need help
17:47 StarForYou: OAO?
17:47 Fort: you can help me?
17:47 Fort: i need more mods for this map
17:47 StarForYou: sure
17:47 *Fort is listening to [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/581141 Tristam & Braken - Frame of Mind]
17:47 Fort: just only 1 diff
17:47 Fort: Chill
17:47 StarForYou: ok
17:47 Fort: because i remapped it
17:47 Fort: enjoy
17:47 StarForYou: :O
17:47 StarForYou: ok
17:48 Fort: you need to redownload it
17:52 Fort: what do you thing about this?
17:52 Fort: think*
17:52 StarForYou: humm kind good
17:53 StarForYou: 00:15:393 (9,1) -
17:53 StarForYou: slider will be better
17:53 StarForYou: imo
17:53 Fort: `oops forget to delete 9
17:54 StarForYou: 01:00:736 (1,2,3,4) - feeling a bit of weird
17:55 Fort: i follow something in there
17:55 StarForYou: 01:04:850 (1,2,3) - the DS look too big
17:57 Fort: how about this https://puu.sh/emyEP/ce9f253f48.jpg
17:57 StarForYou: https://puu.sh/emyGN/d08d3c9946.jpg
17:57 StarForYou: this is my idea
17:58 Fort: reversible lol
17:58 StarForYou: lol
17:58 Fort: okay
17:58 Fort: done
17:58 StarForYou:

18:00 StarForYou: actually the map is ok
18:00 StarForYou: just too many random jump ;_;
18:00 Fort: wut
18:01 Fort: because random jump is the best
18:01 Fort: use mouse to play that
18:01 StarForYou: lol
18:01 StarForYou: 01:45:907 add a note maybe
18:02 Fort: didnt see some triplet sound there
18:03 StarForYou: 02:13:421 start
18:03 StarForYou: where's the external hitsound
18:03 StarForYou: clap whistle finish
18:03 StarForYou: maybe add some whistle
18:04 Fort: this one too loud to hitsounded
18:04 Fort: too hard to hitsound
18:04 StarForYou: give u a sequence
18:05 StarForYou: 02:13:421 (1,5,1,5,1,5,1,5) -
18:05 StarForYou: etc
18:05 StarForYou: +whistle
18:05 StarForYou: feeling better
18:05 StarForYou: oops wait
18:06 StarForYou: 02:13:421 (1,5,1,5,7,1,5,1,5,7,1) -
18:06 StarForYou: wtc
18:06 StarForYou: etc
18:06 StarForYou:

18:07 StarForYou: still work start at 00:56:621 (1) -
18:08 Fort: done
18:08 StarForYou: what do you about that hitsound sequence
18:08 Fort: what is hitsound sequence?
18:09 StarForYou: nope
18:10 Fort: blah
18:11 StarForYou: 03:52:164 (1) - hitsound /_\
18:11 StarForYou: and that's all
18:12 Fort: done
18:13 StarForYou:

18:13 Fort: post it plz
18:14 StarForYou: lol
18:14 StarForYou: ok

Ciyus Miapah

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Ciyus Miapah 2015-01-11T10:47:17+00:00

updated!

jyu

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jyu 2015-01-11T12:46:08+00:00

well i'm sorry if my comment kinda offended you guys or something because i didn't mean to idk

anyway we did a small irc check and managed to fix a slider's flow

irc log

2015-01-11 19:27 AlpacaCokelat: omg i just saw your map forum. kenapa pada kebakaran jenggot ahahahahahfjhgdkdf astaga lmao
2015-01-11 19:27 AlpacaCokelat: im sorry for making more drama in your map dang it
2015-01-11 19:27 Fort: wkwkwkwk
2015-01-11 19:27 Fort: mod lagi dong map ane
2015-01-11 19:28 AlpacaCokelat: ayy sure. bentar ku-apdet
2015-01-11 19:28 Fort: yg chill
2015-01-11 19:28 AlpacaCokelat: okok
2015-01-11 19:29 Fort: redownload
2015-01-11 19:30 Fort: gk pakai NF aja bisa pass ini kau
2015-01-11 19:30 Fort: :D
2015-01-11 19:31 Fort: itu tablet atau apa :o
2015-01-11 19:33 AlpacaCokelat: mouse
2015-01-11 19:33 AlpacaCokelat: pegel aaaaaaa
2015-01-11 19:33 AlpacaCokelat: wwww pardon my noob skill
2015-01-11 19:33 Fort: leh
2015-01-11 19:33 Fort: itu spinnya kok gitu
2015-01-11 19:34 Fort: raw input pls
2015-01-11 19:34 AlpacaCokelat: iyep. aku gabisa ngespin di tengah, soalnya mouse-ku berat
2015-01-11 19:34 AlpacaCokelat: lel raw input geraknya malah susah hue
2015-01-11 19:34 AlpacaCokelat: ini remap semua ya?
2015-01-11 19:34 Fort: nanti juga terbiasa
2015-01-11 19:34 Fort: iya
2015-01-11 19:35 AlpacaCokelat: weleh remap berapa jam ini?
2015-01-11 19:35 Fort: lebih mending remap daripada refix
2015-01-11 19:35 AlpacaCokelat: iya sih
2015-01-11 19:35 Fort: paling 5 jam
2015-01-11 19:35 AlpacaCokelat: buset. untung weekend
2015-01-11 19:35 AlpacaCokelat: ACTION is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/581141 Tristam & Braken - Frame of Mind [Chill]]
2015-01-11 19:35 AlpacaCokelat: idk itu awalannya agak boring kalo tiap combo ds-nya sama2 0.9x
2015-01-11 19:36 AlpacaCokelat: gimana kalo dinaikin sedikit demi sedikit?
2015-01-11 19:36 Fort: terlalu lebay itu
2015-01-11 19:36 Fort: wkowkowkwo
2015-01-11 19:37 AlpacaCokelat: lmao iya sih tapi kalo sama semua rada gimana gitu wkwkwkk
2015-01-11 19:37 AlpacaCokelat: rindu pattern lama ;_____;
2015-01-11 19:37 AlpacaCokelat: 00:12:735 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - ini ds-nya 0.9x udah bagus , 00:15:478 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - ds-nya jadi 1.0x mungkin lumayan ahahahjhds abaikan
2015-01-11 19:39 AlpacaCokelat: add whistle 00:33:993 (7) - ? buat nyeimbangin whistle di kepala slider 00:32:621 (3) - 
2015-01-11 19:39 Fort: ini kan diffname nya chill
2015-01-11 19:39 Fort: awalnya woles aja dulu
2015-01-11 19:40 AlpacaCokelat: hmm bener juga. boleh deh
2015-01-11 19:40 AlpacaCokelat: trus kiai-nya bikin pegel wkwkwkwkk kenapa gak awalannya aja yg diremap?
2015-01-11 19:40 Fort: slider itu emang hitsoundnya gitu
2015-01-11 19:41 AlpacaCokelat: eeh? gak diilangin kalo gitu? atau emang maunya ada whistle? terserah aja deh wkwkwkwkk
2015-01-11 19:41 AlpacaCokelat: oiya trus itu awalannya bisa dibagusin pake whistle, mungkin setiap downbeat dan volume-nya agak dikecilin but up to you again
2015-01-11 19:41 Fort: ACTION is playing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/581141 Tristam & Braken - Frame of Mind [Chill]]
2015-01-11 19:41 Fort: testplay dulu
2015-01-11 19:42 AlpacaCokelat: okk
2015-01-11 19:46 AlpacaCokelat: 00:43:250 - 00:43:593 - 00:43:936 - oiya ini kok line buat ngubah sv-nya masih ada? ds-nya jadi agak beda wkwkwkk mending timing line ini dihapus
2015-01-11 19:46 AlpacaCokelat: 00:42:907 (1,2,3,4) - ini perasaanku aja atau combo colornya sama kayak 00:40:164 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - 
2015-01-11 19:46 Fort: emang sengaja itu
2015-01-11 19:47 AlpacaCokelat: astaga kok mirip banget ini combo colornya
2015-01-11 19:47 AlpacaCokelat: ooh timing line-nya sengaja?
2015-01-11 19:47 AlpacaCokelat: daripada pake timing line gitu mending pake ds sih soalnya ga ada slider but up to you
2015-01-11 19:52 Fort: itu beda ah
2015-01-11 19:52 AlpacaCokelat: gdi my skin
2015-01-11 19:52 AlpacaCokelat: oiya 00:49:764 (1) - 
2015-01-11 19:52 AlpacaCokelat: flow suggestion https://puu.sh/emIqF/c33c955699.jpg
2015-01-11 19:53 Fort: liat di song setup
2015-01-11 19:53 AlpacaCokelat: 5 sama 6 rada mirip hue
2015-01-11 19:53 Fort: done
2015-01-11 19:54 AlpacaCokelat: oiya trus itu bisa dibikin blanket sih but idk aku kalo blanket jelek https://puu.sh/emIGf/9903c38413.jpg
2015-01-11 19:54 AlpacaCokelat: brb ganti skin
2015-01-11 19:55 AlpacaCokelat: eh bener sumpah 5 sama 6 mirip banget ahahahahadgfhjsd
2015-01-11 19:56 AlpacaCokelat: oiya trus tadi aku nyaris ketipu di 01:17:193 (1,2) - kukira ga ada jeda wwwww
2015-01-11 19:58 AlpacaCokelat: tapi ga masalah sih sebenarnya lmao
2015-01-11 19:58 AlpacaCokelat: do u want nazi mod
2015-01-11 19:59 Fort: yg penting di post gitu aja
2015-01-11 19:59 Fort: lah ane mau nonton oimt dulu ah
2015-01-11 19:59 AlpacaCokelat: yaelah
2015-01-11 20:00 AlpacaCokelat: ok imma post the rest on forum

additional things

[Chill]

01:35:021 (1) - i assume you didn't add whistle here because you don't want it to collide with the finish hitsound, but by not adding whistle here kinda ruins your hitsound pattern . since you also added whistle at every previous downbeat 01:32:278 (1) - 01:29:536 (1) - , when there's no whistle at 01:35:021 (1) - it feels kinda empty. so i hope you'll consider
01:40:507 (1) - ^
01:43:250 - to 01:47:364 - i'd suggest to add slider somewhere between them because they're all circles spam lmao
01:47:450 (1) - kinda prefer this spinner to start at 01:48:736 - because that's where the vocal is holding a long note. also similiar with this spinner 03:16:507 (1) -
01:51:480 - unsapped timing point. also i'd make the volume louder around 70-80% because the current sampleset you're using makes it barely audible
~~02:05:536 (8,1) - new combo isn't visible, especially with that similiar combo color~~gdi ignore this
01:52:164 (1) - 01:54:564 (1) - 01:57:650 (1) - are you using the vocal as the combo guide? i guess it's fine since you're consistent with it but it kinda feels weird when the new combo is based on the vocal while the rhythm is following the bass lmao just pointing this out
02:24:050 (7) - add whistle? same hitsound pattern with 02:18:221 (5,7) -
02:47:364 (7,1) - nazi lel blanket can be improved a bit https://puu.sh/emLUf/6188dc7b84.jpg
03:16:164 (8,1) - why not adding notes between them? idk the rhythm kinda stopped at (8) and feels kinda awkward because you followed the vocal at spinner. i'd make this rhythm pattern https://puu.sh/emMsd/3f6f37e71e.jpg but then again, it's up to you
03:19:249 (1) - add finish
03:32:964 (1,2) - flow suggestion https://puu.sh/emML5/29cf440e55.jpg
03:34:336 (1) - ctrl+G this can make the flow better. if you follow, you might want to place 03:34:678 (2) - a bit far (like this maybe https://puu.sh/emMX5/f63c7669cc.jpg

i guess that's all. sorry for poor mod lmao idk i dont have any suggestion with all your circle jumps because my aim is noob wwwww anyway i'm still quite uneasy with combo color 5 and 6 tbh they looked the same, especially when you use skin that doesn't show much combo colour (like mine wwwww) so i really hope you'll still consider to change it

goodluck~!

Osu Mapman

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Osu Mapman 2015-01-11T13:23:25+00:00

zeroclover wrote:
-Toastedsalad
-Aka
-Tess
-Frostmourne

if you want start debate and post a shit at social media like twitter or facebook as a war , im ready at anytimes when i available
and pls dont do it in this thread

wow wow, i hope that you won't use nuclear bomb, soldier

Rakuen

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Rakuen 2015-01-12T08:20:55+00:00

Did some irc with Fort on "Chill" diff

Log

15:42 Fort: can you mod my map?
15:42 Fort: only 1 diff
15:43 Rakuen: ok 0.0
15:43 Rakuen: but might take time
15:43 *Fort is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/581141 Tristam & Braken - Frame of Mind [Chill]]
15:43 Fort: just this one
15:44 Rakuen: downloading
15:45 Fort: i want some hitsounding mod here
15:45 Fort: since this map problem has in hitsound
15:46 Rakuen: just silence hitsound they mentioned
15:47 Fort: it's Chill v2
15:48 Rakuen: umm
15:48 Rakuen: if u dont mind can i req for a mod too? :D
15:48 Rakuen: low bpm, 2 min drain
15:48 Fort: but i will do it only in irc
15:48 Fort: just np it
15:48 Rakuen: yea sure
15:48 *Rakuen is listening to [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/570613 Studio EIM, Chaotic Content - Malina BGM]
15:49 Rakuen: then if u dont mind post at the forum with log, i kd?
15:49 Fort: seems the BG same
15:49 Fort: with ....
15:49 Fort: im forget
15:49 Rakuen: lol
15:49 Fort: okay downloading
15:50 Rakuen: so i do yours in irc?
15:50 Fort: up to you
15:53 Rakuen: so i'll do yours first here i guess
15:53 *Rakuen is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/581141 Tristam & Braken - Frame of Mind [Chill]]
15:54 Fort: okay
15:54 Fort: seems this song is interesting
15:54 *Fort is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/576985 Studio EIM, Chaotic Content - Malina BGM [Hard]]
15:54 Fort: maybe slider tick 2 is good here
15:54 Rakuen: 00:20:964 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - spacing here can be improved a bit
15:54 Rakuen: to make it near
15:54 Rakuen: neat
15:55 Rakuen: move 00:21:993 (4) - to 256/308
15:55 Rakuen: then 00:23:021 (7) - to 236/228
15:56 Fort: done
15:56 Rakuen: 00:31:250 (6) - suggest not to follow vocal here
15:56 Rakuen: just a circle would work better
15:56 Rakuen: the vocal is slightly earlier than this, it's in like 1/6
15:57 Rakuen: or maybe make 00:31:250 (6,7) - a slider
15:57 Fort: that slider feels good
15:57 Fort: but fix it
15:57 Rakuen: yea it's up to you man >.o)b
15:57 Rakuen: im just giving mods
15:58 Fort: okay done
15:58 Rakuen: 00:53:021 (3) - stack on 00:51:650 (4) - ? (nazi)
15:59 Fort: feels better without stacking i think
15:59 Fort: lol
16:00 Rakuen: 01:05:193 (3) - might cause combo miss
16:00 Rakuen: the spacing here is a bit sudden (4.21x)
16:01 Rakuen: oh so did u actually remap this?
16:02 Rakuen: ive seen the 1st qualified ver, it's more sliders less circles
16:03 Rakuen: 02:05:878 (1) - prefer to stack somewhere around 02:04:164 (4) - 
16:03 Rakuen: make the flow keep going
16:03 Fort: i cant type here
16:04 Fort: what the hell
16:04 Rakuen: ?
16:04 Rakuen: what?
16:04 Fort: nah i can type again
16:04 Rakuen: k
16:05 Fort: about this 01:04:850 (1,2) -
16:05 Rakuen: 02:12:050 (1) - personally would like it stop 02:13:078 - for more ready time, as previous spinner did
16:05 Fort: http://puu.sh/epniv/26157b7114.jpg
16:06 Rakuen: 02:45:307 (2) - sometimes antijump os hard to read after stream
16:08 Fort: but in this spinner 02:12:050 (1) - in 02:13:250 - has some vocal sound
16:08 Fort: 02:45:136 - i can add notes here?
16:09 Rakuen: hm sure
16:09 Rakuen: anything u like
16:09 Rakuen: u can keep them too
16:09 Fort: done
16:09 Rakuen: maybe for the front part too if u want to add 01:17:536 (2) - 
16:10 Rakuen: or u can keep as a special style
16:10 Fort: done
16:10 Fort: but i like overmapping
16:10 *Fort runs
16:10 Rakuen: lol
16:11 Rakuen: there's vocal i guess :3
16:11 Rakuen: combo color 6 and 1 looks close :3
16:12 Rakuen: like for example at this part 02:49:593 (4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3) - 
16:12 Fort: where?
16:12 Rakuen: oh wait it's 5 and 6
16:12 Rakuen: wrong type :3
16:13 Fort: hue
16:13 Rakuen: so u can change if u feel want to
16:13 Rakuen: like it's quite hard to see a color change :3
16:14 Fort: maybe people follow some followpoint in this map
16:14 Fort: because followpoint in here is easy to read
16:14 Rakuen: k
16:14 Fort: lol i was overmapping this 03:10:850 (9,10,1) -
16:15 Rakuen: slightly overmap is ok
16:15 Rakuen: like triplets
16:15 Rakuen: nvm, im done with your mod
16:15 Rakuen: im posting it now
16:15 Fort: okay
16:15 Fort: skystar the overmap guy
16:16 Rakuen: oh and
16:16 Rakuen: if u dont mind
16:16 Rakuen: [_Crystal] 's name is now Crystal
16:16 Rakuen: so u might wanna change the tags too
16:16 Fort: okay sure
16:17 Fort: any tags suggestion?
16:17 Rakuen: hm not reli 
16:17 Fort: like EP or album
16:17 Rakuen: it's cool to go

Blizs

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Blizs 2015-01-12T13:36:23+00:00

Mod :3

[Chill]

00:42:907 (1,2,3,4) - Make them have same Distance Snaps..... This is a little flat part of the song, so if you make different DS I think it isn't good
01:04:850 (1) - Change to a circle at 01:04:850 and move it to stack with 01:04:164 (5) - . it's to near from 01:04:678 (8) - remembering here's an energy up part of the song
02:42:050 (9) - Move to x:300 y:288 to make an energy up jump from 02:41:878 (8,9) - to 02:42:050 (9,1) -
02:54:393 (9) - stack with 02:53:536 (3) - is better IMO
03:10:678 (8,9) - Ctrl+G <-- if OK then fix the HS because an energy up of the song at 03:10:850 (9,1) - the distance should be more bigger than 03:10:678 (8,9) -
03:18:564 - add an Inherited timing point with 50% audio volume. This part has low audio volume.
^If OK 03:18:907 - add an Inherited timing point with 100% audio volume

[Insane]

00:49:593 (4,1) - I think it isn't a good time to stack
01:19:593 (3) - I feel something about this slider. If that's me I'll make it like This
03:02:451 (7) - I think it's better stack with 03:02:793 (1) - than 03:02:622 (8) -
03:18:564 - 03:18:907 - same with Chill diff

OK....
Good Luck!!! XD

Ciyus Miapah

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Topic Starter

Ciyus Miapah 2015-01-13T08:18:40+00:00

AlpacaCokelat wrote:
well i'm sorry if my comment kinda offended you guys or something because i didn't mean to idk

anyway we did a small irc check and managed to fix a slider's flow
irc log
2015-01-11 19:27 AlpacaCokelat: omg i just saw your map forum. kenapa pada kebakaran jenggot ahahahahahfjhgdkdf astaga lmao
2015-01-11 19:27 AlpacaCokelat: im sorry for making more drama in your map dang it
2015-01-11 19:27 Fort: wkwkwkwk
2015-01-11 19:27 Fort: mod lagi dong map ane
2015-01-11 19:28 AlpacaCokelat: ayy sure. bentar ku-apdet
2015-01-11 19:28 Fort: yg chill
2015-01-11 19:28 AlpacaCokelat: okok
2015-01-11 19:29 Fort: redownload
2015-01-11 19:30 Fort: gk pakai NF aja bisa pass ini kau
2015-01-11 19:30 Fort: :D
2015-01-11 19:31 Fort: itu tablet atau apa :o
2015-01-11 19:33 AlpacaCokelat: mouse
2015-01-11 19:33 AlpacaCokelat: pegel aaaaaaa
2015-01-11 19:33 AlpacaCokelat: wwww pardon my noob skill
2015-01-11 19:33 Fort: leh
2015-01-11 19:33 Fort: itu spinnya kok gitu
2015-01-11 19:34 Fort: raw input pls
2015-01-11 19:34 AlpacaCokelat: iyep. aku gabisa ngespin di tengah, soalnya mouse-ku berat
2015-01-11 19:34 AlpacaCokelat: lel raw input geraknya malah susah hue
2015-01-11 19:34 AlpacaCokelat: ini remap semua ya?
2015-01-11 19:34 Fort: nanti juga terbiasa
2015-01-11 19:34 Fort: iya
2015-01-11 19:35 AlpacaCokelat: weleh remap berapa jam ini?
2015-01-11 19:35 Fort: lebih mending remap daripada refix
2015-01-11 19:35 AlpacaCokelat: iya sih
2015-01-11 19:35 Fort: paling 5 jam
2015-01-11 19:35 AlpacaCokelat: buset. untung weekend
2015-01-11 19:35 AlpacaCokelat: ACTION is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/581141 Tristam & Braken - Frame of Mind [Chill]]
2015-01-11 19:35 AlpacaCokelat: idk itu awalannya agak boring kalo tiap combo ds-nya sama2 0.9x
2015-01-11 19:36 AlpacaCokelat: gimana kalo dinaikin sedikit demi sedikit?
2015-01-11 19:36 Fort: terlalu lebay itu
2015-01-11 19:36 Fort: wkowkowkwo
2015-01-11 19:37 AlpacaCokelat: lmao iya sih tapi kalo sama semua rada gimana gitu wkwkwkk
2015-01-11 19:37 AlpacaCokelat: rindu pattern lama ;_____;
2015-01-11 19:37 AlpacaCokelat: 00:12:735 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - ini ds-nya 0.9x udah bagus , 00:15:478 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - ds-nya jadi 1.0x mungkin lumayan ahahahjhds abaikan
2015-01-11 19:39 AlpacaCokelat: add whistle 00:33:993 (7) - ? buat nyeimbangin whistle di kepala slider 00:32:621 (3) - 
2015-01-11 19:39 Fort: ini kan diffname nya chill
2015-01-11 19:39 Fort: awalnya woles aja dulu
2015-01-11 19:40 AlpacaCokelat: hmm bener juga. boleh deh
2015-01-11 19:40 AlpacaCokelat: trus kiai-nya bikin pegel wkwkwkwkk kenapa gak awalannya aja yg diremap?
2015-01-11 19:40 Fort: slider itu emang hitsoundnya gitu
2015-01-11 19:41 AlpacaCokelat: eeh? gak diilangin kalo gitu? atau emang maunya ada whistle? terserah aja deh wkwkwkwkk
2015-01-11 19:41 AlpacaCokelat: oiya trus itu awalannya bisa dibagusin pake whistle, mungkin setiap downbeat dan volume-nya agak dikecilin but up to you again
2015-01-11 19:41 Fort: ACTION is playing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/581141 Tristam & Braken - Frame of Mind [Chill]]
2015-01-11 19:41 Fort: testplay dulu
2015-01-11 19:42 AlpacaCokelat: okk
2015-01-11 19:46 AlpacaCokelat: 00:43:250 - 00:43:593 - 00:43:936 - oiya ini kok line buat ngubah sv-nya masih ada? ds-nya jadi agak beda wkwkwkk mending timing line ini dihapus
2015-01-11 19:46 AlpacaCokelat: 00:42:907 (1,2,3,4) - ini perasaanku aja atau combo colornya sama kayak 00:40:164 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - 
2015-01-11 19:46 Fort: emang sengaja itu
2015-01-11 19:47 AlpacaCokelat: astaga kok mirip banget ini combo colornya
2015-01-11 19:47 AlpacaCokelat: ooh timing line-nya sengaja?
2015-01-11 19:47 AlpacaCokelat: daripada pake timing line gitu mending pake ds sih soalnya ga ada slider but up to you
2015-01-11 19:52 Fort: itu beda ah
2015-01-11 19:52 AlpacaCokelat: gdi my skin
2015-01-11 19:52 AlpacaCokelat: oiya 00:49:764 (1) - 
2015-01-11 19:52 AlpacaCokelat: flow suggestion https://puu.sh/emIqF/c33c955699.jpg
2015-01-11 19:53 Fort: liat di song setup
2015-01-11 19:53 AlpacaCokelat: 5 sama 6 rada mirip hue
2015-01-11 19:53 Fort: done
2015-01-11 19:54 AlpacaCokelat: oiya trus itu bisa dibikin blanket sih but idk aku kalo blanket jelek https://puu.sh/emIGf/9903c38413.jpg
2015-01-11 19:54 AlpacaCokelat: brb ganti skin
2015-01-11 19:55 AlpacaCokelat: eh bener sumpah 5 sama 6 mirip banget ahahahahadgfhjsd
2015-01-11 19:56 AlpacaCokelat: oiya trus tadi aku nyaris ketipu di 01:17:193 (1,2) - kukira ga ada jeda wwwww
2015-01-11 19:58 AlpacaCokelat: tapi ga masalah sih sebenarnya lmao
2015-01-11 19:58 AlpacaCokelat: do u want nazi mod
2015-01-11 19:59 Fort: yg penting di post gitu aja
2015-01-11 19:59 Fort: lah ane mau nonton oimt dulu ah
2015-01-11 19:59 AlpacaCokelat: yaelah
2015-01-11 20:00 AlpacaCokelat: ok imma post the rest on forum
additional things

[Chill]

01:35:021 (1) - i assume you didn't add whistle here because you don't want it to collide with the finish hitsound, but by not adding whistle here kinda ruins your hitsound pattern . since you also added whistle at every previous downbeat 01:32:278 (1) - 01:29:536 (1) - , when there's no whistle at 01:35:021 (1) - it feels kinda empty. so i hope you'll consider
01:40:507 (1) - ^
01:43:250 - to 01:47:364 - i'd suggest to add slider somewhere between them because they're all circles spam lmao
01:47:450 (1) - kinda prefer this spinner to start at 01:48:736 - because that's where the vocal is holding a long note. also similiar with this spinner 03:16:507 (1) -
01:51:480 - unsapped timing point. also i'd make the volume louder around 70-80% because the current sampleset you're using makes it barely audible i get it
~~02:05:536 (8,1) - new combo isn't visible, especially with that similiar combo color~~gdi ignore this im change combo colour
01:52:164 (1) - 01:54:564 (1) - 01:57:650 (1) - are you using the vocal as the combo guide? i guess it's fine since you're consistent with it but it kinda feels weird when the new combo is based on the vocal while the rhythm is following the bass lmao just pointing this out it's okay, newcombo in vocal
02:24:050 (7) - add whistle? same hitsound pattern with 02:18:221 (5,7) -
02:47:364 (7,1) - nazi lel blanket can be improved a bit https://puu.sh/emLUf/6188dc7b84.jpg
03:16:164 (8,1) - why not adding notes between them? idk the rhythm kinda stopped at (8) and feels kinda awkward because you followed the vocal at spinner. i'd make this rhythm pattern https://puu.sh/emMsd/3f6f37e71e.jpg but then again, it's up to you not really necessary
03:19:249 (1) - add finish
03:32:964 (1,2) - flow suggestion https://puu.sh/emML5/29cf440e55.jpg too hard
03:34:336 (1) - ctrl+G this can make the flow better. if you follow, you might want to place 03:34:678 (2) - a bit far (like this maybe https://puu.sh/emMX5/f63c7669cc.jpg idk just jump makes that notes looks not really good

i guess that's all. sorry for poor mod lmao idk i dont have any suggestion with all your circle jumps because my aim is noob wwwww anyway i'm still quite uneasy with combo color 5 and 6 tbh they looked the same, especially when you use skin that doesn't show much combo colour (like mine wwwww) so i really hope you'll still consider to change it fixed
goodluck~!

Fantastica wrote:
Mod :3

[Chill]
00:42:907 (1,2,3,4) - Make them have same Distance Snaps..... This is a little flat part of the song, so if you make different DS I think it isn't good fix some DS, i make some ascension distance here
01:04:850 (1) - Change to a circle at 01:04:850 and move it to stack with 01:04:164 (5) - . it's to near from 01:04:678 (8) - remembering here's an energy up part of the song i will keep this
02:42:050 (9) - Move to x:300 y:288 to make an energy up jump from 02:41:878 (8,9) - to 02:42:050 (9,1) - cool!
02:54:393 (9) - stack with 02:53:536 (3) - is better IMO will not to stacked overlap objects
03:10:678 (8,9) - Ctrl+G <-- if OK then fix the HS because an energy up of the song at 03:10:850 (9,1) - the distance should be more bigger than 03:10:678 (8,9) - fixed, but in different way
03:18:564 - add an Inherited timing point with 50% audio volume. This part has low audio volume.
^If OK 03:18:907 - add an Inherited timing point with 100% audio volume
[Insane]
00:49:593 (4,1) - I think it isn't a good time to stack
01:19:593 (3) - I feel something about this slider. If that's me I'll make it like This
03:02:451 (7) - I think it's better stack with 03:02:793 (1) - than 03:02:622 (8) -
03:18:564 - 03:18:907 - same with Chill diff
OK....
Good Luck!!! XD

fix all except red one, thanks for mods. updated!!

Zare

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Joined March 2012

Zare 2015-01-13T14:52:34+00:00

Offset on "Chill" diff is early by a few ms, someone might want to take a look at that

Gordon123

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Joined June 2013

Gordon123 2015-01-13T19:52:37+00:00

EvilElvis wrote:
zeroclover wrote:
-Toastedsalad
-Aka
-Tess
-Frostmourne

if you want start debate and post a shit at social media like twitter or facebook as a war , im ready at anytimes when i available
and pls dont do it in this thread
wow wow, i hope that you won't use nuclear bomb, soldier

lol

Ciyus Miapah

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Topic Starter

Ciyus Miapah 2015-01-13T23:01:19+00:00

Zare wrote:
Offset on "Chill" diff is early by a few ms, someone might want to take a look at that

ugh i see that, want kd your post?

Rakuen

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Joined March 2013

Rakuen 2015-01-14T11:19:28+00:00

As requested!

Legend

Default = Normal mods
Blue = Strongly recommended
Red = Unrankable issue
Pink = Will be discussed if not changed

Yaxuo's Normal

00:12:734 - Preferable volume 15% - 20%, more sounded on Normal diff. And to avoid volume jump later on
00:23:706 - Duplicated timing points
01:07:591 - Unnecessary timing point (partially duplicated error)
01:07:592 - Prefer the KIAI parts like here to be at least 60% - 80% volume, 40% is really tiny (applies to others)
02:46:336 (1) - Slider tail blocked by 02:44:964 (3) - (and bad flow), try this:
Image
02:51:821 (1) - Slider tail slightly closer to 02:51:136 (4) - to make 02:52:850 (2) - stack perfectly
03:19:249 - Other 2 KIAI are using Normal hitsound set, and the clap sounds different too

Did some more irc with Fort

Log

17:27 Fort: hello
17:29 Rakuen: hi
17:29 Fort: i need help
17:29 Fort: to find offset here
17:29 *Fort is editing Virtual Riot - Evil Gameboy [Fortune]
17:30 Rakuen: umm playing w
17:30 Rakuen: send me forum pm?
17:33 Fort: [http://osump.net/mapsets/54ababa6250777120bdaa1f5?b=54ababa6250777120bdaa1f4 link]
17:58 Rakuen: .
17:58 Fort: ya?
17:59 Rakuen: do u remember er
17:59 *Rakuen is listening to [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/269550 Alan - My Life]
17:59 Rakuen: so long time ago
17:59 Fort: im forget :D
17:59 Rakuen: i got your gd like 2 years ago w
17:59 Rakuen: i also forgot how long anyway 0.0
17:59 Fort: lol
18:00 Fort: why it graved?
18:01 Rakuen: 0.0
18:01 Rakuen: cuz it graved
18:01 Rakuen: btw this timing is a bit hard for me XD/
18:01 Rakuen: try someone else
18:03 Fort: ah D:
18:04 Rakuen: i see u can time better than me lolx
18:04 Rakuen: orz orz
18:04 Rakuen: fail bay
18:04 Rakuen: fail bat
18:04 Fort: why glitch hop song so hard to find timing
18:04 Rakuen: #quit
18:04 Fort: nope
18:04 Fort: glith song sometimes have glithed timing :D
18:04 Fort: glitched*
18:05 Rakuen: owo
18:05 Fort: btw, can you bubble my map :D
18:05 *Fort is listening to [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/581141 Tristam & Braken - Frame of Mind]
18:05 Rakuen: lol
18:05 Rakuen: k lemme see
18:05 Rakuen: you're on #3 bub req 0.0
18:05 Fort: i got nice mods, and i think it'll okay if you check and give bubble (yea maybe)
18:06 Rakuen: i have to bub like 2 more furst :c
18:06 Rakuen: then i'll look at yours :O
18:06 Fort: just do insta bubble :D
18:06 Rakuen: >_>!
18:06 Fort: no need to check lower diffs
18:06 Rakuen: if the ranker dint realize mistake im dead >_>!
18:06 Rakuen: ranker dead = bubbler dead
18:07 Rakuen: i'll do quick check then
18:07 Rakuen: dont ask bats like cdfa to rank plx
18:07 Rakuen: instant rank = kill me
18:07 Fort: but BATs in my acquitance didnt have a mistake
18:08 Fort: just my old mapping style have mistake
18:08 Rakuen: o
18:13 Fort: how long i wait until you bubble my map?
18:14 Rakuen: today i guess
18:14 Fort: yay
18:23 Rakuen: still there?
18:23 *Rakuen is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/441525 Tristam & Braken - Frame of Mind [Crystal's Easy]]
18:23 Fort: yup
18:23 Fort: ummm im updating my map
18:23 Rakuen: 01:27:478 - why 5% volume here?
18:23 Fort: so update last version :D
18:23 Rakuen: :3
18:24 Rakuen: whats changed
18:24 Fort: a glitched timing
18:24 Fort: bug
18:26 Rakuen: like what bug
18:26 Rakuen: i dont get the glitched u mean 0.0
18:26 *Rakuen is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/441525 Tristam & Braken - Frame of Mind [Crystal's Easy]]
18:27 Fort: if you get to timing options
18:27 Rakuen: 01:27:477 - try not to 5% volume here
18:27 Fort: okay get it
18:29 Rakuen: 02:16:850 (1,2) - Swap NC
18:29 Rakuen: 02:23:707 (1,2) - here too
18:29 Rakuen: following the strong beart
18:29 Rakuen: beat
18:29 Fort: done
18:30 Rakuen: 02:55:249 - another 5% here
18:30 Rakuen: 03:28:163 - ^
18:30 Fort: im just change all 5%
18:30 Rakuen: cool
18:31 Fort: yea i know 5% in clickable object is unrankable, lol QAT didnt see this
18:31 Rakuen: they're blind
18:31 Rakuen: and meanie
18:31 Rakuen: u dont map 1/6 they can see
18:31 Rakuen: u overmap they also can see
18:32 Fort: yea i see
18:36 *Rakuen is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/441464 Tristam & Braken - Frame of Mind [Yauxo's Normal]]
18:36 Rakuen: 02:46:336 (1) - this slider tail is blocked by 02:44:964 (3) - 
18:37 Fort: i will not editing this map
18:37 Fort: yauxo will be angry
18:37 Rakuen: kk then i try post at forum :D
18:37 Fort: yeah
18:38 Fort: i hope you know my feel, cause yauxo too OP mapper
18:38 Rakuen: >o> i dont like his maps
18:39 Fort: why?
18:39 Rakuen: <o< but i dont hate too
18:39 Fort: why? D:
18:39 Rakuen: not sure, just my feel XD
18:40 Fort: what?!!? you got to be kidding
18:40 Rakuen: hhh nvm
18:40 Rakuen: :c
18:48 *Rakuen is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/431095 Tristam & Braken - Frame of Mind [Hard]]
18:48 Fort: btw im fix all mapset volume
18:49 Rakuen: 00:12:735 - yea the 5%
18:49 Rakuen: u fix too?
18:49 Rakuen: :3
18:49 Fort: i need to react my self
18:49 Rakuen: red tick is 5%, green is 30%, prefer to make both 30
18:49 Rakuen: :33
18:50 Rakuen: 00:31:250 (5,6,7) - as mentioned the...off vocal
18:50 Rakuen: it's more on 1/6
18:51 Rakuen: prefer to remove 00:31:421 (6) - 
18:51 Rakuen: if u feel the rhythm is constant, feel free to keep
18:51 Fort: okay done
18:52 Rakuen: 00:52:507 (1,2) - the spacing looks a bit different from others 0.0
18:52 Fort: it's a jump
18:52 Rakuen: ok
18:55 Rakuen: 02:40:507 (3) - Ctrl+G better flow?
18:55 Fort: yeah
18:55 Rakuen: 03:09:993 (7,8,9) - missing claps
18:56 Fort: done
18:56 Rakuen: oh, just here 03:09:992 -  i guess
18:56 Fort: yeah
18:56 Fort: i know it
18:57 Rakuen: 40% vol is so tiny >o>
18:57 Rakuen: but it's your choice
18:57 Fort: oh im forget to change that
18:58 Rakuen: prefer the KIAI volume and others 60%
18:58 Rakuen: would be better to play :DD
18:58 Fort: let me set it with myself
18:59 Rakuen: sure
19:01 Rakuen: oh and emm
19:01 Rakuen: change the combo colors too
19:01 Rakuen: i see Chill have different ones
19:01 Rakuen: prefer Chill's combo color
19:01 Fort: what
19:02 Fort: im sure i change all diff combos
19:02 Fort: dafuq
19:02 Rakuen: check again @@
19:03 Fort: okay done
19:03 Fort: it just copy pasta the code
19:06 *Rakuen is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/441128 Tristam & Braken - Frame of Mind [Insane]]
19:06 Rakuen: hh 00:31:249 (6,7) - vocal
19:07 Fort: lol
19:07 Fort: fixed
19:08 Rakuen: 01:15:392 - hmm, this hitsound is intentional?
19:09 Fort: 5%?
19:09 *Rakuen is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/441128 Tristam & Braken - Frame of Mind [Insane]]
19:09 Rakuen: insane
19:09 Rakuen: i mean is the hitsound correct or not
19:09 Rakuen: there's a Soft sample set
19:10 Fort: its correct
19:10 Rakuen: ok
19:11 Fort: oops i think im forget to change normal sample in hard
19:11 Rakuen: 03:26:963 (7) - a bit not stacked
19:12 Fort: do
19:12 Fort: done
19:15 *Rakuen is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/581141 Tristam & Braken - Frame of Mind [Chill]]
19:15 Rakuen: 01:48:735 - Map until here like other diffs?
19:15 Fort: ah that part again >.<
19:16 Rakuen: lol
19:16 Rakuen: it's ok, do what u like
19:17 Fort: done
19:17 Rakuen: done mod too
19:18 Rakuen: i'll post forum together with Yaxuo's mod
19:18 Fort: yeah

Call me back!

Ciyus Miapah

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Joined June 2013

Topic Starter

Ciyus Miapah 2015-01-14T11:44:08+00:00

Updated!!

edit: Yauxo fix dis plis >//<

Yauxo

1,622 posts

Joined June 2011

Yauxo 2015-01-14T13:09:49+00:00

Rakuen wrote:
As requested!

Legend
Default = Normal mods
Blue = Strongly recommended
Red = Unrankable issue
Pink = Will be discussed if not changed

Yaxuo's Normal
00:12:734 - Preferable volume 15% - 20%, more sounded on Normal diff. And to avoid volume jump later on
00:23:706 - Duplicated timing points
01:07:591 - Unnecessary timing point (partially duplicated error)
01:07:592 - Prefer the KIAI parts like here to be at least 60% - 80% volume, 40% is really tiny (applies to others) Applied all. Probably happened because I copy/pasted the hitsounds
02:46:336 (1) - Slider tail blocked by 02:44:964 (3) - (and bad flow), try this: It makes the flow from 3 to 4 worse, but oh well.
Image
02:51:821 (1) - Slider tail slightly closer to 02:51:136 (4) - to make 02:52:850 (2) - stack perfectly changed
03:19:249 - Other 2 KIAI are using Normal hitsound set, and the clap sounds different too Iam 100% sure that I fixed this in a previous mod. Re-fix

map

osu file format v14

[General]
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AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 67507
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Normal
StackLeniency: 0.7
Mode: 0
LetterboxInBreaks: 1
WidescreenStoryboard: 0

[Editor]
Bookmarks: 111520,133463,144434,221234,232206
DistanceSpacing: 0.9
BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 4
TimelineZoom: 1.6

[Metadata]
Title:Frame of Mind
TitleUnicode:Frame of Mind
Artist:Tristam & Braken
ArtistUnicode:Tristam & Braken
Creator:Fort
Version:Yauxo's Normal
Source:
Tags:Monstercat release 017 Ascension liquid drum and bass dnb yauxo crystal
BeatmapID:441464
BeatmapSetID:177523

[Difficulty]
HPDrainRate:4
CircleSize:3.4
OverallDifficulty:4.5
ApproachRate:5
SliderMultiplier:1
SliderTickRate:1

[Events]
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Zare

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Zare 2015-01-15T02:49:54+00:00

Fort wrote:
Zare wrote:
Offset on "Chill" diff is early by a few ms, someone might want to take a look at that
ugh i see that, want kd your post?

well i'm not gonna say no to a kd if you think it's worth, lol

Ciyus Miapah

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Ciyus Miapah 2015-01-15T07:53:44+00:00

Zare wrote:
well i'm not gonna say no to a kd if you think it's worth, lol

as you wish :3

Rakuen

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Rakuen 2015-01-15T09:44:18+00:00

Bubbled

Ciyus Miapah

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Ciyus Miapah 2015-01-15T13:24:19+00:00

thankies

PatZar

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PatZar 2015-01-17T09:43:55+00:00

wow bub re-rank pls

Ciyus Miapah

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Ciyus Miapah 2015-01-17T10:31:59+00:00

okie dokie!

Sonnyc

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Sonnyc 2015-01-19T06:45:23+00:00

-- Not a big issue, but some objects are 1ms unsnapped. Better press "Resnap all notes".
-- Pink and purple doesn't seems to be the best combo color because the BG makes those colors lack readability. Suggesting to change those colors to something else. Dark greens will be a good choice.

Crystal's Easy:

00:51:820 - Some combo issues. Add NC for (5). 00:53:192 - Remove NC 00:56:620 - Add NC 01:00:049 - Remove NC 01:02:106 - Add NC
01:08:277 (2,3) - Rhythm is too complexed even it is following the music. Please make these something 1/1 as what you've done at 03:19:935 (2,3).
01:11:020 (1,2,3) - Check if the missing hitsounds are intended.
02:12:049 (5) - It will be a good idea to add a volume reduction here.
02:36:049 (2,3) - Same rhythm suggestion here.
02:38:791 (1,2,3) - Check hitsound.

Yauxo's Normal:

01:30:563 - 01:33:306 - Missing Clap hitsounds. I don't think this is intended with a small hitsound. Please add claps. Personally the small hitsounds didn't felt well, but nvm.
02:59:706 - Missing clap.

Hard:

-- Use AR7. AR8 is too fast, and makes this set really unbalanced with [Normal].

01:05:363 - This beat could be filled up. Consider adding a note.
01:34:507 (8) - Remove the reverse. The huge jump to (1) doesn't fits your overall map.
03:03:650 (4) - Whistle feels little spammed. Check if the usage is intended.
03:22:678 (1,2) - Reduce jump please. This isn't appropriate for [Hard] diff.

Insane:

01:29:192 (9) - Reducing 1/4 and adding a note at 01:29:449 on (1) will fit the music better.
01:41:535 (4,5) - This jump is way too massive. I doubt if this jump is nice for players or fits the music logically. Reduce this jump to an ammount as 01:44:107 (4,5).
02:05:878 (1) - Imo this wasn't the best usage of an anti-jump. I would rather suggest maintaining the distance.
02:24:907 (1) - This NC feels redundant and hurts consistency. Remove NC please.
03:07:591 (10,11) - Jump after a triple stream is a little stressful. Mind placing (8,9,10) like this? http://puu.sh/eIRZh/b16d83a212.jpg

Ciyus Miapah

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Ciyus Miapah 2015-01-19T08:22:20+00:00

Sonnyc wrote:
-- Not a big issue, but some objects are 1ms unsnapped. Better press "Resnap all notes". sure
-- Pink and purple doesn't seems to be the best combo color because the BG makes those colors lack readability. Suggesting to change those colors to something else. Dark greens will be a good choice. but that colour have better look than other colours

Hard:

-- Use AR7. AR8 is too fast, and makes this set really unbalanced with [Normal]. okay changed it to AR7.5

01:05:363 - This beat could be filled up. Consider adding a note.
01:34:507 (8) - Remove the reverse. The huge jump to (1) doesn't fits your overall map.
03:03:650 (4) - Whistle feels little spammed. Check if the usage is intended.
03:22:678 (1,2) - Reduce jump please. This isn't appropriate for [Hard] diff.

Insane:

01:29:192 (9) - Reducing 1/4 and adding a note at 01:29:449 on (1) will fit the music better.
01:41:535 (4,5) - This jump is way too massive. I doubt if this jump is nice for players or fits the music logically. Reduce this jump to an ammount as 01:44:107 (4,5).
02:05:878 (1) - Imo this wasn't the best usage of an anti-jump. I would rather suggest maintaining the distance. fix it as stack
02:24:907 (1) - This NC feels redundant and hurts consistency. Remove NC please.
03:07:591 (10,11) - Jump after a triple stream is a little stressful. Mind placing (8,9,10) like this? http://puu.sh/eIRZh/b16d83a212.jpg

fixed all except the red one.
okay i will update this map after crystal and yauxo update the map

Crystal

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Crystal 2015-01-19T13:40:13+00:00

@Sonnyc: all fixed, thanks!

@Fort: fix metadata issues for me, thanks

osu file format v13

[General]
AudioFilename: [DnB] - Tristam &amp; Braken - Frame of Mind [Monstercat Release].mp3
AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 67507
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Normal
StackLeniency: 0.7
Mode: 0
LetterboxInBreaks: 1
WidescreenStoryboard: 0

[Editor]
Bookmarks: 111520,133463,144434,221234,232206
DistanceSpacing: 1.2
BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 4
TimelineZoom: 1.6

[Metadata]
Title:Frame of Mind
TitleUnicode:Frame of Mind
Artist:Tristam & Braken
ArtistUnicode:Tristam & Braken
Creator:Fort
Version:Crystal's Easy
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Yauxo

1,622 posts

Joined June 2011

Yauxo 2015-01-19T17:36:54+00:00

Copy/Paste Hitsounds, never again D: Added the claps.

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