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EGOIST - Fallen (TV Edit) [Osu|Taiko]
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Those offbeat sliders are perfectly fine imo. They obviously follow the vocals and I don't see a problem with it at all. The other instruments seem to be pretty monotonous in that section, so I'd made the rhythm exactly like that and I don't even understand why you would start the sliders at the white ticks and why they should be more emphasized - They are not, and if they are, it's just a little bit, since it's consecutive guitar notes at 00:01:328 (1,2,3,4) for example.
But I am a BAT and only the QATs know about quality, I shouldn't even be allowed to post here.
But I am a BAT and only the QATs know about quality, I shouldn't even be allowed to post here.
Those are not the main reason why the map was unranked. I rechecked the map and I'm fine with the offbeat sliders. The main problems are the slider in Insane and the 1/4 jumps in Fallen.Desperate-kun wrote:
Those offbeat sliders are perfectly fine imo. They obviously follow the vocals and I don't see a problem with it at all. The other instruments seem to be pretty monotonous in that section, so I'd made the rhythm exactly like that and I don't even understand why you would start the sliders at the white ticks and why they should be more emphasized - They are not, and if they are, it's just a little bit, since it's consecutive guitar notes at 00:01:328 (1,2,3,4) for example.
But I am a BAT and only the QATs know about quality, I shouldn't even be allowed to post here.
Sorry to stick my nose into it, but someone concerned showed me this thing and I decided to leave my opinion
I have no hand on what happens with your mapset, tutuhaha, and I actually disagree a bit with some stuff Shiro said, but if you want it to move forward to ranked again I'd say you need to at least fix the normal spinner, 1/4 sliders on Fallen diff and the kickslider on insane. Hope it helps, good luck
not quite sure what changes were made already, but anyway:Shiro wrote:
hello
sorry but i have to unrank this for the following reasons
[Fallen]
00:01:328 (1,2,3,4) - 00:13:763 (1,2,3,4) - these offbeat sliders go completely against the song by overlooking the strongest beats at these parts
00:25:654 (6,1) - 00:30:395 (5,6,1) - Surprising, confusing and unexpected spacing. Nothing in the song even supports that.
00:29:929 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - not following any rhythm while sliding over the downbeat. Correct rhythm would be something like http://puu.sh/d434N/967a6334f2.jpg
00:51:224 (1,2,3,4,5) - Again, nonsense spacing with (4,5). Also this is a pain to play. The sliders should be separated visually to make this easier to play
00:56:509 (3,4,5) - Confusing and surprising.
[Insane]
00:18:892 (1,2,3) - Barely audible.
00:24:799 (1,2) - Kickslider on 1/4 tick that is not properly spaced. that is surprising and unreadable, please change it
[Normal]
00:07:778 (1,1) - not enough recovery time between spinner and following notes
There are also concerns about the size of the background (that could be easily reduced) and the quality of the video
- Normal spinner needs to be fixed, afaik t/241019 is a rule already, though I don't think it's on the RC yet. Note that the rule is written based on 160 bpm, so 2 white ticks don't really apply. If you want to keep your spinner as is, delete 00:10:188 (1) and add a single circle at 00:10:809.
- Regarding Insane, 00:18:892 (1,2,3) - is fine. I mean, it's not really an issue and it's nothing to be unranked for, but lowering the volume a bit and adding a soft whistle on 00:19:359 (3)'s head would look nice. Just a suggestion though
- 00:24:799 (1,2) - I'm gonna agree on this though, it plays pretty weird. I'd replace the kickslider with a regular stream. Maybe something like this, it takes advantage of the following objects and creates some sort of a loop
- Fallen: 00:01:328 (1,2,3,4) - 00:13:763 (1,2,3,4) - the tails and heads are the same sounds. it's arguable for 00:13:763 (1), but even then it's the same pattern as before so playing should be fine. It follows the vocals perfectly.
- 00:25:654 (6,1) - 00:30:395 (5,6,1) - First case is fine. Second case, though, I'd replace 00:30:550 (1) with circles. I know what you tried to do with this, but the slider then should start at 00:30:706 - instead.
- 00:51:224 (1,2,3,4,5) - I'm going to agree that the sliders not being visually separated is an issue, it becomes quite hard to play indeed. but the (4,5) spacing is fine. it helps build into (6), so no issues there. But really, I'd fix the slider thingy ;w;
- 00:56:509 (3,4,5) - It's very surprising, but it's not so confusing to make an unrank issue out of it. It plays not that bad, so I'd say keep if you want it.
I have no hand on what happens with your mapset, tutuhaha, and I actually disagree a bit with some stuff Shiro said, but if you want it to move forward to ranked again I'd say you need to at least fix the normal spinner, 1/4 sliders on Fallen diff and the kickslider on insane. Hope it helps, good luck
Well then nvm. I read the irc log with tutuhaha where you said the offbeat sliders were the major unrank reason so yea...Shiro wrote:
Those are not the main reason why the map was unranked. I rechecked the map and I'm fine with the offbeat sliders. The main problems are the slider in Insane and the 1/4 jumps in Fallen.Desperate-kun wrote:
Those offbeat sliders are perfectly fine imo. They obviously follow the vocals and I don't see a problem with it at all. The other instruments seem to be pretty monotonous in that section, so I'd made the rhythm exactly like that and I don't even understand why you would start the sliders at the white ticks and why they should be more emphasized - They are not, and if they are, it's just a little bit, since it's consecutive guitar notes at 00:01:328 (1,2,3,4) for example.
But I am a BAT and only the QATs know about quality, I shouldn't even be allowed to post here.
I agree with most of the problems you mentioned ><
@tutuhaha
Good luck requalifying :3
EDIT: OH wow suddenly there are 1000 replies before mine lol,
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Thankyou dear, we alreadyYuzu- wrote:
Sorry to stick my nose into it, but someone concerned showed me this thing and I decided to leave my opinion
I have no hand on what happens with your mapset, tutuhaha, and I actually disagree a bit with some stuff Shiro said, but if you want it to move forward to ranked again I'd say you need to at least fix the normal spinner, 1/4 sliders on Fallen diff and the kickslider on insane. Hope it helps, good luck
haha enjoy 1000 replies yey！！Desperate-kun wrote:
Well then nvm. I read the irc log with tutuhaha where you said the offbeat sliders were the major unrank reason so yea...
I agree with most of the problems you mentioned ><
@tutuhaha
Good luck requalifying :3
EDIT: OH wow suddenly there are 1000 replies before mine lol,calm down guys
and thankyou~
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yeeeeeeeeeee
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whatever (╯‵□′)╯︵┻━┻CDFA wrote:
>finger out
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another small meeting with shiro
we already figure out what we should do for this map
be ready for rebubble
we already figure out what we should do for this map
be ready for rebubble
Still looks fine,it is good to me.
Rebubbled !
Rebubbled !
mmm ok I'll check this one tho
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Natsu wrote:
mmm ok I'll check this one tho
thanks dear Natsu~
19:20 *tutuhaha is listening to [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/517570 EGOIST - Fallen (TV Edit)]
19:20 tutuhaha: thread is peace haha
19:22 Natsu: hahahaha people bite hard in threads ahahahah
19:23 tutuhaha: XDDDD
19:23 Natsu: https://osu.ppy.sh/s/134151 620 post 3 unranks pls ahhaha
19:25 tutuhaha: god 3 unranks？！
19:25 tutuhaha: let me dl this COOOOL map
19:25 Natsu: hahaha yeah, but 1,340 favs so hahahahaha
19:25 tutuhaha: great job Natsu XDDDDD
19:26 Natsu: even peppy posted there ahhahaha
19:28 tutuhaha: which page！
19:28 tutuhaha: LOOOOOOOOOOOOL this song
19:28 tutuhaha: oh god 6 star
19:29 Natsu: https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/p/2965415
19:29 Natsu: haahhaha
19:30 tutuhaha: wtf hahahahaah
19:30 Natsu: hahahha ikr xD
19:30 Natsu: btw what did shiro said about changes?
19:31 tutuhaha: she and I already figure out all part we has diff idea
19:32 tutuhaha: and try to fix it in 2 HOURS
19:32 tutuhaha: at end she said all things should be fine now so ╮(╯▽╰)╭
19:33 Natsu: she? is not he?
19:33 Natsu: I though shiro was a guy lol
19:33 tutuhaha: she~
19:33 tutuhaha: haha I will tell her XDDD
19:34 Natsu: LOL
19:35 Natsu: 00:30:473 (6,1) - what about this?
19:35 Natsu: and this 00:25:654 (6,1) ?
19:35 tutuhaha: well this is the way we both agree
19:36 tutuhaha: are you already update？
19:36 tutuhaha: so you should know the change <3
19:36 Natsu: 00:51:690 (4,5) - this is really evil T-T
19:36 tutuhaha: so
19:37 tutuhaha: more close？
19:37 Natsu: http://puu.sh/d9vyf/e911cdfcc9.jpg
19:37 tutuhaha: or maybe just use the same space like
19:37 tutuhaha: ok i see
19:37 tutuhaha: fix
19:37 Natsu: maybe like that lol, is kinda confused cuz it looks like ¨hey 1/2 spacing, then is 1/4Ǩ and im like T-T
19:38 tutuhaha: 00:51:846 (5,6) - should i make those too more far?
19:38 tutuhaha: ah I see LOL
19:38 Natsu: mmm increasing the spacing here is up to u
19:40 tutuhaha: ok fix
19:44 Natsu: mmmmm
19:46 tutuhaha: :D
19:48 Natsu: 00:20:136 (1) - why the insane is different here?
19:48 Natsu: I mean every diff has a circle in 00:20:136 (1) -
19:48 Natsu: and the spinner is here 00:20:291 -
19:50 tutuhaha: ah...well..different rhythm style so....fix like this
19:50 tutuhaha: osu.ppy.sh/ss/2289827
19:50 tutuhaha: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2289827
19:50 Natsu: that's a bad link :D
19:51 Natsu: naisu
19:51 tutuhaha: ╮(╯▽╰)╭ahaha
19:53 Natsu: 00:39:410 (3,4,1) - in fallen, the spacing is kinda confused T-T, I though 4 and 1 was 1/2, when is 1/4 jump QQ, try this instead :D : https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2289831
19:54 Natsu: 00:58:374 (5,1) - kawaii blanket
19:54 *Natsu runs
19:55 tutuhaha: god said, dont care about blanket at all (fix
19:56 tutuhaha: anything else:D?
19:56 Natsu: 01:01:017 (1,2) - add more spacing between them, to make the 1/4 jumps more readable
19:57 tutuhaha: fallen？
19:57 Natsu: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2289837
19:57 Natsu: ya
19:57 Natsu: 01:07:234 (1,3) - your blankets are really kawaii
19:58 tutuhaha: fix~
19:58 tutuhaha: oh no blanket here I plan
19:58 tutuhaha: too hard to me to make them blanket you know orz
20:00 Natsu: 01:29:462 (4,5) - why you didn't made a tripet as well T-T??
20:00 Natsu: triplet*
20:01 tutuhaha: because I only want to stress two rhythm ;-; （use jump
20:01 tutuhaha: is fine I think
20:01 tutuhaha: and actually is following vocal
20:01 tutuhaha: so is fine I think?
20:02 Natsu: yes is fine lol
20:02 tutuhaha: yeah \口/!
20:02 tutuhaha: anything else?
20:03 Natsu: in fallen all other seems fine
20:03 tutuhaha: yeah \口/!
20:04 tutuhaha: so I may update now
20:05 Natsu: wait
20:05 tutuhaha: ah..already update..
20:07 Natsu: 00:01:638 (1,2,3) - why the spacing is different? (insane diff)
20:07 Natsu: 00:04:126 (1,2,3) - since is the same here (in a similar part in the music)
20:08 tutuhaha: stress for vocal part, so I think is really clear to listen and play
20:09 tutuhaha: well actually I can move it really close, if you want <3
20:10 Natsu: okis
20:11 tutuhaha: then fix
20:11 Natsu: 01:22:312 (1,2,3) - similar as fallen, try this:https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2289879
20:11 tutuhaha: fix~
20:15 Natsu: mmm why hard and insane has the same AR??? o.o
20:15 Natsu: I think 7.5 in hard is better
20:15 tutuhaha: ok fix
20:16 Natsu: trun off widescreensupport in every diff
20:16 Natsu: turn*
20:16 tutuhaha: no one say that actually
20:16 tutuhaha: ok it need spent some time...
20:18 tutuhaha: ok fix
20:20 Natsu: normal seems fine let me check easy
20:21 tutuhaha: yeah \口/! last one!
20:25 Natsu: k updated
20:26 tutuhaha: already update!
20:27 Natsu: lol really??
20:27 tutuhaha: yep \口/!
20:27 Natsu: kk let me do a quick recheck them ahahah
20:27 tutuhaha: <3
20:29 Natsu: if this got unranked for taikos I'll jump in a bridge!!
20:29 tutuhaha: hahahaha
20:30 tutuhaha: should I have wish to see you do that at future XDDDDDD
20:31 *Natsu slaps
20:32 *tutuhaha dodge MAX
20:32 Natsu: btw is nto better to start the kiai in 00:52:312 - were the chorus of the song is starting??
20:32 Natsu: e.e
20:33 tutuhaha: kiai should begin on the white line I believe <3
20:35 Natsu: mmm but that white line doesn't have a really nice sound, even you are ignoring it in some diffs :p
20:35 tutuhaha: well whatever I dont plan to move kiai line actually:P
20:38 Natsu: y so rebel T-T
20:39 tutuhaha: *wink*
20:39 Natsu: qq
20:40 tutuhaha: （○｀ 3′○）
20:42 Natsu: k 1 sec
20:42 Natsu: e.e
20:44 Natsu: write something there like, updated? ahhahah Idon't want to double post :p
20:44 tutuhaha: ok~
Did some IRC:
- Fixed some confused spacing in Fallen and Insane diff
- rhythm in insane diff
- some inconsistency
- and some nazi stuff, like tutuhaha kawaii blankets
Yay :3
Grats always挺你！
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谢谢么么哒！Rakuen wrote:
:) Grats
always挺你！
owo grats on rerank
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lol that's hurtMura_77 wrote:
Worst Map ever