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Tanzklaue
1,151 posts
Joined December 2010
Tanzklaue
and if anyone here believes that town sakura would be this actively stupid and yoloshoot despite multiple people saying please don't yoloshoot, then shame on you.

also drezi is my second highest scumcandidate after sakura, mostly because of my gumpy-gave-up-so-i'll-yolo theory (which i'm sure everyone here read) and the fact that he actively tries to divert attention from sakura despite it being the clearly best move for a town victory. also sakura suddenly turned up and started being against her being shot after being compeltely defeatist for like 2 days straight.
Drezi
217 posts
Joined January 2014
Drezi
Well I'm not scum so I outright dismissed the gumpy-gave-up-so-i'll-yolo theory, and even if she's scum, they don't have shots left so I don't see why it's so urgent to shoot her, and how shooting her (especially yoloshooting, and not even voting for the shooter) is better information than voting for two people, and deciding who will be the shooter out of them after that. It's a lot more discussion and attitudes being revealed.
Tanzklaue
1,151 posts
Joined December 2010
Tanzklaue

Drezi wrote:

Well I'm not scum so I outright dismissed the gumpy-gave-up-so-i'll-yolo theory, and even if she's scum, they don't have shots left so I don't see why it's so urgent to shoot her, and how shooting her (especially yoloshooting, and not even voting for the shooter) is better information than voting for two people, and deciding who will be the shooter out of them after that. It's a lot more discussion and attitudes being revealed.
...
dude.

fuck off.

i'm trying to organize that shit for like 3 days now, andnobody fucking cares, and nobody gives any input. i'm done.

and if she is the shooter, then shooting her confirms the person that shot her, and all following people who will shoot, because the mafia shooter is already out. which means won game.
Drezi
217 posts
Joined January 2014
Drezi
Anyway, if Sakura flips Scum Self-Vig I have bads news for you :)
Tanzklaue
1,151 posts
Joined December 2010
Tanzklaue
why?

if sakura flips scum self vig, she ordered her partner to shoot CB, sincce noone else claimed to have done it. it clears me as conf town either way.

now it would clear you as conf town too ofc, because gumpy wasn't even here, meaning that you can't be the perpetrator. in fact, if she is suicide scum, then we end up with 21 conf town! ain't that great?
Tanzklaue
1,151 posts
Joined December 2010
Tanzklaue
2 conf town*

fat finger typo.
Tanzklaue
1,151 posts
Joined December 2010
Tanzklaue
it's my fault for not making a post clearly detailing why shooting sakura is the thing town should aspire towards, but really i didn't care enough after being ignored and scoffed at for the past 3 days to make a list to convince probably noone.
Drezi
217 posts
Joined January 2014
Drezi
Yeah 2 conf town would be great.
Sakura
osu! Alumni
7,979 posts
Joined March 2010
Sakura
Except im going to flip town day vig.
Sakura
osu! Alumni
7,979 posts
Joined March 2010
Sakura
In the end, you ended up doing the exact same thing i did, and for the same reason, how do you align that with a scum mindset I have no idea.
GuyInFreezer
0 posts
Joined June 2013
Topic Starter
GuyInFreezer
Sorry for the delay. My internet connection has been unstable lately.

Sakura, Town 1-shot Day Vigilante, was shot.

Votecount has reset.
Chamelo
432 posts
Joined July 2013
Chamelo
And now the problem is: who shot?
Drezi
217 posts
Joined January 2014
Drezi
No, the problem is that scum probably still has their shot so we lost unless we hit scum now, and Tanz shooting Sakura did not help us getting much closer to finding them. If Sakura was scum we still would't have lost at LyLo, so I really really don't understand why it was so important to shoot her, especially by Tanz himself and not the other scum candidates... We should have been worrying about possible vigshot scum, not shotless possible scum, risk/reward was really bad here.

So I guess it's high time we started discussing the pool of 2 people that'll be shooting/get shot..
Drezi
217 posts
Joined January 2014
Drezi
Oh actually we don't lose just yet if we don't hit scum, dunno why I thought that.
Navizel
2,982 posts
Joined April 2011
Navizel
[quote="Chamelo_Th"]And now the problem is: who shot?[/quote

tanz did?
Navizel
2,982 posts
Joined April 2011
Navizel
I hate mobile.
Chamelo
432 posts
Joined July 2013
Chamelo
We don't know 'till he confirm that.
Zexion
308 posts
Joined May 2012
Zexion
Urrgh sorry guys its hard to make time to post here... -.-

So I see Sakura got shot and flipped town... so maybe its safe to asume Tanz shot because of his previous posts?
Tanzklaue
1,151 posts
Joined December 2010
Tanzklaue
you have to give me credit, i tried for 3 days to basically herd a bunch of retarded cats.

that people here even have doubt that i shot after me clearly stating that i shot just on the last page is telling enough about the state of the game, and the state of the subforum.

i'll let you try to solve it, if anything consistntly works in osu mafia, it's town getting retardedly lucky at some point and winning the game through stupid random shit.
Drezi
217 posts
Joined January 2014
Drezi
Damn, at this point I can totally understand how you felt when both you and Sakura decided to just go ahead and shoot.
Drezi
217 posts
Joined January 2014
Drezi
Please guys, try playing the game, I proposed that Navi and Zexion shoot each other one way or the other, please suggest two names, do something, comment on Tanz shooting, ffs..
Navizel
2,982 posts
Joined April 2011
Navizel
Drezi and Gumpyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
Chamelo
432 posts
Joined July 2013
Chamelo
There we go.

Drezi, you're coming too late. ;-;
Tanzklaue
1,151 posts
Joined December 2010
Tanzklaue

Drezi wrote:

Damn, at this point I can totally understand how you felt when both you and Sakura decided to just go ahead and shoot.
congratz, they're your bunch of retarded cats now!

if you neither talk nor listen ina game about talking and listening, it's quite problematic.
Tanzklaue
1,151 posts
Joined December 2010
Tanzklaue

Chamelo_Th wrote:

There we go.

Drezi, you're coming too late. ;-;
he literally is trying since he replaced in. i tried way before that. me and CB tried since the beginning of the game.

really, nobody came to late, people jsut chose to not listen in any way, shape or form.
Nyquill
osu! Alumni
1,781 posts
Joined February 2011
Nyquill
I got the flu whilie studying for exams and finishing assignments

Probably a good idea to find a replacement for me if you haven't started trying yet.
Drezi
217 posts
Joined January 2014
Drezi
Ok, actually I'm fairly confident that Navi is scum, so Zexion please shoot Navi. If anyone has any objections or a better plan I'm all ears.
Drezi
217 posts
Joined January 2014
Drezi
If I get shot, and Zexion still won't shoot Navi, we have a scumteam :) If Navi (or anyone) flips scum Self-Vig, do not trust the shooter unconditionally.
Gumica
166 posts
Joined November 2013
Gumica
So, you're planning to shoot Navi over his passive lurking and copying responses, or was there something more that i missed?
Drezi
217 posts
Joined January 2014
Drezi
Over the way he makes his posts, yes, last few games I read him correctly, and while obviously I can be wrong, it's still the best I can think of now.
Navizel
2,982 posts
Joined April 2011
Navizel
last few games hehehe
Tanzklaue
1,151 posts
Joined December 2010
Tanzklaue

Drezi wrote:

Ok, actually I'm fairly confident that Navi is scum, so Zexion please shoot Navi. If anyone has any objections or a better plan I'm all ears.
i agree to this.
Chamelo
432 posts
Joined July 2013
Chamelo
^ I second this.

It's not like we have any better idea for now. :roll:
GuyInFreezer
0 posts
Joined June 2013
Topic Starter
GuyInFreezer
Everyone except Tanzklaue and C_Th has been prodded.
Searching for Nyquill's replacement
Navizel
2,982 posts
Joined April 2011
Navizel
Where is Zexion anyway so he can vig me

Or alternatively, Drezi can shoot me.
Gumica
166 posts
Joined November 2013
Gumica
Sorry, I've been busy playing the tournament matches today. Ehm, anyways..
Anyways what is with this setup, nobody who is target is being helpful in any sort of way ._-
I don't mind shooting Navizel either, but would somebody explain to me what are the benefits in case he doesn't turn out scum? Where do we go from that?
Drezi
217 posts
Joined January 2014
Drezi
well normally people would have strong opinions for or against someone being shot, which we could use to get better reads etc, but here noone seems to give a damn, so what do you suggest we do?
Drezi
217 posts
Joined January 2014
Drezi
2 or probably 3 town vigs are out, so I have 50% chance of being self vig, won't shoot anyone. we make scummy players shoot.
Chamelo
432 posts
Joined July 2013
Chamelo
How about Vote: Nyquill and Zexion?

idk why Nav wants to be killed so i think I'll keep him alive a little more. :roll:
Gumica
166 posts
Joined November 2013
Gumica
This game is becomming utterly boring. I might shoot myself, if it continues like this.
Navizel
2,982 posts
Joined April 2011
Navizel
prod dodge!
Navizel
2,982 posts
Joined April 2011
Navizel
Zexion and Nyquill is kill?
GuyInFreezer
0 posts
Joined June 2013
Topic Starter
GuyInFreezer
If I can't find Nyquill's replacement within 48 hours, I will modkill the slot.
However, if I need to find more replacement other than Nyquill after 48 hours from this post, I will declare this game ABANDONED.
Navizel
2,982 posts
Joined April 2011
Navizel
osu! mafia is dead

like I'm the one to talk
Chamelo
432 posts
Joined July 2013
Chamelo
I'm waiting.
Where's Tanz and Drezi anyway?
Chamelo
432 posts
Joined July 2013
Chamelo
If anything, I'd like to shoot Zexion now since I'm quite sure I'm a self-vig. (trust me, I usually bankrupted in monopoly)
Drezi
217 posts
Joined January 2014
Drezi
I'm waiting for Zexion ^^
GuyInFreezer
0 posts
Joined June 2013
Topic Starter
GuyInFreezer
DakeDekaane replaces Nyquill.
Gumica
166 posts
Joined November 2013
Gumica
I'll shoot tomorrow if Zexion doesn't show up
Drezi
217 posts
Joined January 2014
Drezi
Why would you do that?
DakeDekaane
osu! Alumni
3,500 posts
Joined February 2012
DakeDekaane
Hi guys, let's see if I got everything

Sakura shot Caligno
Tanz shot Sakura
Both ded peep were town non self-vigs.

And now you guys want to shoot Zexion/Navizel. Are you considering them just because lurking?
Also I agree with Drezi and let both shoot each other, I'm sure there's at least one scum there. Else I'd say Zexion should shoot, and then we shoot him if Navi flips town? question would be, who?

Navizel wrote:

Where is Zexion anyway so he can vig me

Or alternatively, Drezi can shoot me.
Alternatively we can lynch Navizel becuase this post sucks, like in, if you're town, why are you okay with being shot? we have no room for lolgambits so get your shit together.

Gumica wrote:

I'll shoot tomorrow if Zexion doesn't show up

Chamelo_Th wrote:

If anything, I'd like to shoot Zexion now since I'm quite sure I'm a self-vig. (trust me, I usually bankrupted in monopoly)
And these aren't better.
DakeDekaane
osu! Alumni
3,500 posts
Joined February 2012
DakeDekaane
^This means Tanz and Drezi are my current townreads.
Drezi
217 posts
Joined January 2014
Drezi
Town needs to understand that we can't just go around and shoot people. We have 50% chance of killing ourselves, so either we make scumreads shoot other scumreads, or we lynch them.
Navizel
2,982 posts
Joined April 2011
Navizel
Cth is my closest to scum cause bandwagon
DakeDekaane
osu! Alumni
3,500 posts
Joined February 2012
DakeDekaane
Come on guys, place votes, or sboot, idk, but do something ffs, else I'm going to suicide unless you guys want to cooperate more.

Vote: Zexion
DakeDekaane
osu! Alumni
3,500 posts
Joined February 2012
DakeDekaane
Because if this stays the same, scum will have a well deserved win because apathic town, even if we manage to build a nice townbloc
DakeDekaane
osu! Alumni
3,500 posts
Joined February 2012
DakeDekaane
Also I'll slap Sakura so hard when the game ends :(
DakeDekaane
osu! Alumni
3,500 posts
Joined February 2012
DakeDekaane
*activity*
Drezi
217 posts
Joined January 2014
Drezi
haha you are me 5 days ago.

I'd prefer forcing a shot, but if that isn't happening we gotta lynch away.

Vote: Zexion
Drezi
217 posts
Joined January 2014
Drezi
Also @Navi would you be willing to shoot Zexion, if yes why, if no why not.
Chamelo
432 posts
Joined July 2013
Chamelo
I think I've already voted Zexion but nvm, I'll do it again.
Vote: Zexion
DakeDekaane
osu! Alumni
3,500 posts
Joined February 2012
DakeDekaane
I'd suggest to not rush hammer, neither lolshooting until we have some nice words from these people, unless the deadline is close, when that's near, hammer pls.
Chamelo
432 posts
Joined July 2013
Chamelo
Oh, right, I forgot.
Zexion has an exam.
Maybe we'll have to wait a while. :roll:
Navizel
2,982 posts
Joined April 2011
Navizel
I couldn't access mafia forum yesterday wtf
Navizel
2,982 posts
Joined April 2011
Navizel
School breaktime. Yes, I can shoot him if you want me to prove that I'm town (please no self vig)
Chamelo
432 posts
Joined July 2013
Chamelo
Wake up, people.
Gumica
166 posts
Joined November 2013
Gumica
Woken up. I'm fine with zexion too, since he's equally as scummy by being useless.
Navizel
2,982 posts
Joined April 2011
Navizel
kill or no kill
Chamelo
432 posts
Joined July 2013
Chamelo
just kill
the game's going nowhere.
GuyInFreezer
0 posts
Joined June 2013
Topic Starter
GuyInFreezer
I am going to add a game rule:

If there is no death for 3 days, the game will end with ROCK FALLS AND EVERYONE DIES.
GuyInFreezer
0 posts
Joined June 2013
Topic Starter
GuyInFreezer
Zexion, Town 1-shot Self-Day Vigilante, was shot.

The votecount resets.
Gumica
166 posts
Joined November 2013
Gumica
Hi been busy lately. Also V/LA tomorror. I'm going to an anime convention and i might not be available until the middle of aunday.

Anyways, so Zexion died. I'm assuming you shot him, Navi?
DakeDekaane
osu! Alumni
3,500 posts
Joined February 2012
DakeDekaane
I shouldn't be celebrating this, but WIFOM source is already gone, so... who shot?
Chamelo
432 posts
Joined July 2013
Chamelo
1 dayvig left.
1 self dayvif left.
2 mafia left.

Welp, 50% chance for town to shoot himself.
DakeDekaane
osu! Alumni
3,500 posts
Joined February 2012
DakeDekaane
oh fuck there's 2 town self-vig

well, rip Dake's plan.

what are the chances of this being a scum kill?
Navizel
2,982 posts
Joined April 2011
Navizel
I did shot Zexion since that's what you guys wanted
Navizel
2,982 posts
Joined April 2011
Navizel

Chamelo_Th wrote:

1 dayvig left.
1 self dayvif left.
2 mafia left.

Welp, 50% chance for town to shoot himself.
i thought we still have 6 players
Chamelo
432 posts
Joined July 2013
Chamelo
Ugh, yes.
+1 no bullet left
+1 dayvig
So it's 33% chance for town to shoot himself.
DakeDekaane
osu! Alumni
3,500 posts
Joined February 2012
DakeDekaane
what would you guys do if someone decides to throw the game away?
Drezi
217 posts
Joined January 2014
Drezi
it makes no sense for town to shoot voluntarily, we lose the chance of making scum use up their shot, also 33% auto-loss from self-vig.
Drezi
217 posts
Joined January 2014
Drezi
but since there's nothing going on pretty much, it's nigh impossible to get reads so whatever..
DakeDekaane
osu! Alumni
3,500 posts
Joined February 2012
DakeDekaane
because I'm tempted to lolshoot Navizel or Chamelo, but the backfire factor is there, LOL
Drezi
217 posts
Joined January 2014
Drezi
if you're scum go ahead, if you're town don't :D
Drezi
217 posts
Joined January 2014
Drezi
also Navi claims to have used his shot so we're better off trying to get the scum with the shot left, or make him use it so it shouldn't be him getting shot to optimise our chances.
Navizel
2,982 posts
Joined April 2011
Navizel
so we're not going to do the shooter / shootee thing?
Drezi
217 posts
Joined January 2014
Drezi
we are, im just saying you shouldn't be the shootee.
Navizel
2,982 posts
Joined April 2011
Navizel
Hehe
GuyInFreezer
0 posts
Joined June 2013
Topic Starter
GuyInFreezer
Chamelo_Th, town 1-shot Self Day vigilante, was shot.

The votecount resets.
Gumica
166 posts
Joined November 2013
Gumica
...was shot or has he shot himself? The mystery begins.
So now we are left with 6? players?
DakeDekaane
osu! Alumni
3,500 posts
Joined February 2012
DakeDekaane
Vote: Navizel
fuck sheep pls before they wake up and shoot
Drezi
217 posts
Joined January 2014
Drezi
Did you shoot CTh?
Drezi
217 posts
Joined January 2014
Drezi
Ok well, the situation is as follows:

Tanz - claimed a shot (Sakura)
Navi - claimed a shot (Zexion)
Gumica, Dake - only one shot between them, which had been used (CTh)
Drezi - has a shot, since two self-vigs are dead

So we have 3 town vigs in the game, 3 shots have been used out of the 4 possible, I know I have my shot, so scum has no shots left, there's no hurry to lynch.

I'm confirmed town, since if I was scum I would have shot anyone and won, also I can just shoot the one who claims to have my position as town self-vig with a shot left...

CTh did not shoot himself either, because we would have lost already then.

From Dake's pov if he is town and shot CTh:
Tanz - claimed a shot (Sakura)
Navi - claimed a shot (Zexion)
Gumica, Drezi - only one shot between them, which is still available
Dake - used a shot (CTh)

Votes Navi -> if Navi is scum, they have no shots left, thus the argument for his lynch "do it before they wake up and shoot" doesn't make sense

if dake is town and didn't shoot CTh:
impossible from my PoV, since I haven't used my shot, 3 have been used, so 2 done by town, one claimed by scum (either the real scum shooter or the selv-vig), so by PoE, one with no shot claimed is scum.

Based on Gumica's post he most definitely doesn't claim the shot, which makes him scum by PoE, also Dake's plan is BS, so they're the scumteam in all likeliness.

Vote: Gumica
Drezi
217 posts
Joined January 2014
Drezi

Drezi wrote:

CTh did not shoot himself either, because we would have lost already then.
Actually if Navi is the second scum (or Tanz), CTh could have shot himself, and we still don't lose in that case.
Drezi
217 posts
Joined January 2014
Drezi
Either way, it doesn't change much, since I asked town not to shoot, and even if he did, I'm sure he would have posted something telling us beforehand so that we know if he ends up shooting himself.
Gumica
166 posts
Joined November 2013
Gumica

Drezi wrote:

CTh did not shoot himself either, because we would have lost already then.
Enlighten me senpai.
Drezi
217 posts
Joined January 2014
Drezi
we are 5, so if scum still had a shot, they'd have killed a random town and won. :|
Drezi
217 posts
Joined January 2014
Drezi
We still need Dake to answer if he shot CTh or not.

Also you should clarify your claim, you claim to be a town vig with a shot left right? :)
Drezi
217 posts
Joined January 2014
Drezi
Btw that opener of yours sounded very much like introducing the "mystery" you hoped to create.
DakeDekaane
osu! Alumni
3,500 posts
Joined February 2012
DakeDekaane
Yes, I did shot Cts.

And now that you said it, makes no sense for scum to win now if Navizel is scum, I got scared, lol.

But, from my PoV, Gumica and Navizel are the scum.
Drezi
217 posts
Joined January 2014
Drezi
how so?
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