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sakura is the only person we can shoot with still having hope of winning this.
sakura is useless, and that's the main reason that she is the one who should be shot, preferably by who you lot think is the most scummy player in the game currently. that way we either:
a) only kill one townie, then proceed to let the next highest scumread shoot the guy who shot sakura
b) kill a scum sakura, have a confirmed town in the gy who shot sakura, two vigs still up and running and can coordinate further in order to not let these two vigs shoot out the other.
c) scum panics and random shoots one of us, leaving sakura as conf town since she can neither be the shooting scum nor be the suicide scum
this way, we hold open all options. we can't risk losing 2 vigs again today; it would be synonymus with losing the game. that's why sakura is the prime target for the next shot, regardless of whether you believe her to be a dumb town or a dumb scum.
sakura is useless, and that's the main reason that she is the one who should be shot, preferably by who you lot think is the most scummy player in the game currently. that way we either:
a) only kill one townie, then proceed to let the next highest scumread shoot the guy who shot sakura
b) kill a scum sakura, have a confirmed town in the gy who shot sakura, two vigs still up and running and can coordinate further in order to not let these two vigs shoot out the other.
c) scum panics and random shoots one of us, leaving sakura as conf town since she can neither be the shooting scum nor be the suicide scum
this way, we hold open all options. we can't risk losing 2 vigs again today; it would be synonymus with losing the game. that's why sakura is the prime target for the next shot, regardless of whether you believe her to be a dumb town or a dumb scum.
sadly we osu mafia typical have multiple lurkers (nyquill, gumpy) which we can barely read at all, and that will complicate stuff. especially considering that apparently gumpy replaces out.
if sakura flips scum, nyquill is a primesuspect though for the sheer fact that sakura gave him a townread just on basis of saying "oh no don't yoloshoot", then going back to lurking again, while scumreading gumpy for the same reason.
if sakura flips scum, nyquill is a primesuspect though for the sheer fact that sakura gave him a townread just on basis of saying "oh no don't yoloshoot", then going back to lurking again, while scumreading gumpy for the same reason.
My contribution to the town usually comes in the form of mostly accurate reads :p
Also we need to kill Sakura because she knowingly created a source of wifom and we cant let her live for that.
Also we need to kill Sakura because she knowingly created a source of wifom and we cant let her live for that.
If anything, I'm willing to shoot Sakura, as if she flips scum I'm cleared.
But that doesn't make sense. If the mafia self vig knows he is a self vig, then what's the point if having it?... Unless I'm missing something important?Chamelo_Th wrote:
and people forgot me, again.
Well, I was going to say "How about we let Sakura alive?" but oh, the redirect.
I'd choose Navizel bc his post style or Zexion bc why did you convince Tanz to shoot Sakura when he was aiming at you?Zexion wrote:
also I do not think Mafia knows who the self vigs are.GuyInFreezer, in setup specific wrote:
* Mafia will know whether their shots will backfire or not, but town won't.
I dunno, maybe that make self vig mafia doesn't want to shoot? So the one who avoid shooting his gun is self vig mafia?
This would make sense but...Chamelo_Th wrote:
I dunno, maybe that make self vig mafia doesn't want to shoot? So the one who avoid shooting his gun is self vig mafia?
You dont really know who shot despite they saying "i'll shoot" for all we know their partner could be the one shooting.
game dead as fuck?
game dead as fuck.
guys, get on voting, in a normal game you all would be scum now for not voting
game dead as fuck.
guys, get on voting, in a normal game you all would be scum now for not voting
Here, let me help you get rid of me
Vote: Sakura
Vote: Zexion
Vote: Sakura
Vote: Zexion
what does bold and italics mean in this game
Oh wow, Navizel isn't even reading the game...
hmmm
Better idea
Vote: Navizel
hmmm
Better idea
Vote: Navizel
i am reading the game. I probably missed it
I saw the post now.
Topic Starter
Sakura (3): Tanzklaue, Sakura, Chamelo_Th
Not Voting: Navizel, Gumica, Gumpyyy, Nyquill, Zexion
replacing Gumpyyy.
Not Voting: Navizel, Gumica, Gumpyyy, Nyquill, Zexion
replacing Gumpyyy.
Topic Starter
Sakura wrote:
Huh, i thought tanz voted me in this post: p/3535948
fixed
I don't care tbh, people want to kill me because of a mistake so let them kill me since i can't pay attention to this game atm.Gumica wrote:
Lol at that self vote. I didn't expect that from you.
Such activity. Anyways, I still don't see any reason to vote you just yet. And that self-vote seems a bit forced imho.
I'm more vary of lurking people.
I'm more vary of lurking people.
sakura has to be shot, no matter what. we can't let the loose end live and/or risk losing another 2 vigs in one shot (which would effectively equal a loss).
the important part is who should shoot sakura. it should be the person you think is scum.
the important part is who should shoot sakura. it should be the person you think is scum.
i can't stress this enough: if this or the next shot isn't hitting scum we will lose outright.
so let's get on voting. if we can pressure a scum into having to shoot, we can get a kill on scum, and we can win the game.
so let's get on voting. if we can pressure a scum into having to shoot, we can get a kill on scum, and we can win the game.
though at the rate that gumpy's replacement search is going, i don't forsee this game continuing anyway, since a modkill on anything but a town self vig would screw the faction gumpy was on.
pro tip: don't sign up for a game you don't plan playing in!
pro tip: don't sign up for a game you don't plan playing in!
Hey guys, I applied as a replacement actually, no reply yet though.
yay we won't get modgamed \:D/
And then what, are you gonna shoot the person that shoots me? and the the person that shoots that one?Tanzklaue wrote:
sakura has to be shot, no matter what. we can't let the loose end live and/or risk losing another 2 vigs in one shot (which would effectively equal a loss).
the important part is who should shoot sakura. it should be the person you think is scum.
you got it!Sakura wrote:
And then what, are you gonna shoot the person that shoots me? and the the person that shoots that one?Tanzklaue wrote:
sakura has to be shot, no matter what. we can't let the loose end live and/or risk losing another 2 vigs in one shot (which would effectively equal a loss).
the important part is who should shoot sakura. it should be the person you think is scum.
which is why everyone should vote for who he thinks is the scummiest for the shootie. because then the shootie is like "what? me? shooting? but today is wednesday, i can't shoot someone on a wednesday, don't be riiculous" or smth like that.
it is the best bet we have after your colossal fuck up. i'm trying to make lemonade out of lemons.
unless you have a better plan that doesn't involve randomly shooting anyone and ties up the lsoe end that is you, then go on!
i also am tempted to just shoot anyone because this game bores me greatly and nobody seems to want to do jackshit. deadline for the target and killer is in 12 hours. after that the guy who leads killer (navizel currently) please go on and shoot the one leading in target (currently sakura).
i also am tempted to just shoot anyone because this game bores me greatly and nobody seems to want to do jackshit. deadline for the target and killer is in 12 hours. after that the guy who leads killer (navizel currently) please go on and shoot the one leading in target (currently sakura).
fun thing is that i'm almsot 100% sure at this point that the only possible scumteams are gumpy/sakura and gumpy/nyquill,m because both nyquill and sakura are defeatist as fuck and gumpy declaring "lol not gonna play lol" right at the start would explain that pretty well.
Vote: nyquill
Vote: nyquill
or nyquill rather is passive as fuck, which i don't like. same goes out to navizel.
Vote: Sakura
Vote: Nyquill
I agree with nyquill shooting due to inactvity. I don't have much to add atm.
And tha game is about shooting randomly, come on, we don't have a lynch and our guns may explode so yeah.
Vote: Nyquill
I agree with nyquill shooting due to inactvity. I don't have much to add atm.
And tha game is about shooting randomly, come on, we don't have a lynch and our guns may explode so yeah.
Oh hey, sounds like exactly what i did, and why.Tanzklaue wrote:
i also am tempted to just shoot anyone because this game bores me greatly and nobody seems to want to do jackshit.
Currently I have 3 shooter in my mind
1. Drezi (replaced Gumpy)
- The reason is how Gumpy left made me wonder if he pissed off because he got "self dayvig" or because he's really busy.
I, too, would be a little pissed if I knew I was self dayvig. It make me feels useless.
2. Navizel
- His familiar lurking style.
3. Nyquill
- Lurk as fuck, yeah.
but keep this in mind:
1. Drezi (replaced Gumpy)
- The reason is how Gumpy left made me wonder if he pissed off because he got "self dayvig" or because he's really busy.
I, too, would be a little pissed if I knew I was self dayvig. It make me feels useless.
2. Navizel
- His familiar lurking style.
3. Nyquill
- Lurk as fuck, yeah.
but keep this in mind:
Nyquill wrote:
If anything, I'm willing to shoot Sakura, as if she flips scum I'm cleared.
Since I'm kinda 70% sure that we'll end up kill one more town. So, we better choose scum as a shooter.
Shooter Drezi/Gumpy
I don't want to deal with replacements anymore
I don't want to deal with replacements anymore
Alright, I recieved my role PM, so I suppose I'm officially in now.
First things first, if Sakura is in fact scum, then scum has no normal vigshots left, and they must plan on winning by looking very town and setting up townies to shoot/lynch each other, which looks like a weaker gameplan overall than being able to simply shoot someone in LyLo or waiting with their shot to save themselves, even if we consider that they could have gambled on the "scum Sakura wouldn't do this, must be town" effect.
Also there's something else that makes me think it's less likely that they're following this plan based on what's happened so far, but I'd rather not mention that yet, I'd be giving scum ideas.
What we should do instead, is what CBot suggested earlier, but hasn't gotten much attention.
I believe this approach will yield better information, we can go back to Sakura later, I don't see what's the rush there with her case, if she's scum they have no shots left for us, so we don't auto lose at LyLo.
First things first, if Sakura is in fact scum, then scum has no normal vigshots left, and they must plan on winning by looking very town and setting up townies to shoot/lynch each other, which looks like a weaker gameplan overall than being able to simply shoot someone in LyLo or waiting with their shot to save themselves, even if we consider that they could have gambled on the "scum Sakura wouldn't do this, must be town" effect.
Also there's something else that makes me think it's less likely that they're following this plan based on what's happened so far, but I'd rather not mention that yet, I'd be giving scum ideas.
What we should do instead, is what CBot suggested earlier, but hasn't gotten much attention.
If we choose shooter and shootee beforehand, than scum will have no problem going along with them shooting town, but if we only choose two people at first, and they don't know yet if they'll have to shoot, or will be shot, than it'll get better reactions, while it shouldn't really have that much of an effect on town, since they could be shooting themselves for all they know, even if assigned as shooter.CalignoBot wrote:
I propose we all submit two names and the top two listed will be the shooter and shootee. We'll decide after the two are chosen.
I believe this approach will yield better information, we can go back to Sakura later, I don't see what's the rush there with her case, if she's scum they have no shots left for us, so we don't auto lose at LyLo.
As for my reads:
Tanz is probably town, mostly because of the part where he had enough and asked for replacement, I don't think scum would get to that point of frustration over town incactivity, it could have been faked for this reason, but he had no way of knowing that it won't be taken seriously so.. yeah town for now.
Sakura is nullish, but I'm leaning towards town for reasons stated above.
Navi:
Zexion - I agree with most of your reads on him, not much to add.
CTh, Gumica, Nyquill, null
Vote: [Navi, Zexion]
And who shoots who would be decided after we settle on two names, the two you think are scummiest obviously.
Tanz is probably town, mostly because of the part where he had enough and asked for replacement, I don't think scum would get to that point of frustration over town incactivity, it could have been faked for this reason, but he had no way of knowing that it won't be taken seriously so.. yeah town for now.
Sakura is nullish, but I'm leaning towards town for reasons stated above.
Navi:
Gumica wrote:
Well, lurking like this is even worse than CB's plan, so I guess we should go with it then.
This looks like scum Navi to me... alsoNavizel wrote:
I guess we should go for CB's plans for the game to move forward. I don't really have any better ideas
What the hell, Gumpy hasn't posted a single thing, I could have been the original player for all intents and purposes, who had been busy until now.Navizel wrote:
I don't want to deal with replacements anymore
Zexion - I agree with most of your reads on him, not much to add.
CTh, Gumica, Nyquill, null
Vote: [Navi, Zexion]
And who shoots who would be decided after we settle on two names, the two you think are scummiest obviously.
Honestly, any active lurker will do, as they don't really contribute town in any sort of way
I still think those 2 are the scummiest yes, that's why i changed my vote towards Navizel earlier, but seems like people (mainly Tanz) don't want to move the game forward until i die because im useless and they dont want to risk losing useful people, despite them having a higher chance of being scum.
Wherever town win con of killing the scum instead of people that can't shoot went...
Wherever town win con of killing the scum instead of people that can't shoot went...
i shot sakura, because fuck this game, fuck everyone lurking, and fuck osu mafia. i deeply regret signing up for this.
i'm pushing for people to make a decision for 2-3 days in a row now, and i out of all people get blamed that i stall the game.
please go die ina fucking fire
please go die ina fucking fire
also please prod all people prodable gif, should be like what 2-3 guys ina 9 player game.
having basically 66% of the palyers be inactive and lurkey as fuck is so much fun. i forgot that nobody in osu mafia actually wants to paly mafia but rather jsut signs up for the fuck of it.
having basically 66% of the palyers be inactive and lurkey as fuck is so much fun. i forgot that nobody in osu mafia actually wants to paly mafia but rather jsut signs up for the fuck of it.
if scum isn't in sakura, and i'm like 60-70% sure she is, because of the way she palys, scum is in nyquill-drezi-zexion. don't even bother with searching anywhere else, because there is no scum to be found.
if i'm a selfvig, change that to drezi-nyquill-sakura-zexion. not that there will be a shot after mine because nobody will ever fucking shoot with how slow and noncaringly this game is moving forward \: D/
and if anyone here believes that town sakura would be this actively stupid and yoloshoot despite multiple people saying please don't yoloshoot, then shame on you.
also drezi is my second highest scumcandidate after sakura, mostly because of my gumpy-gave-up-so-i'll-yolo theory (which i'm sure everyone here read) and the fact that he actively tries to divert attention from sakura despite it being the clearly best move for a town victory. also sakura suddenly turned up and started being against her being shot after being compeltely defeatist for like 2 days straight.
also drezi is my second highest scumcandidate after sakura, mostly because of my gumpy-gave-up-so-i'll-yolo theory (which i'm sure everyone here read) and the fact that he actively tries to divert attention from sakura despite it being the clearly best move for a town victory. also sakura suddenly turned up and started being against her being shot after being compeltely defeatist for like 2 days straight.
Well I'm not scum so I outright dismissed the gumpy-gave-up-so-i'll-yolo theory, and even if she's scum, they don't have shots left so I don't see why it's so urgent to shoot her, and how shooting her (especially yoloshooting, and not even voting for the shooter) is better information than voting for two people, and deciding who will be the shooter out of them after that. It's a lot more discussion and attitudes being revealed.
...Drezi wrote:
Well I'm not scum so I outright dismissed the gumpy-gave-up-so-i'll-yolo theory, and even if she's scum, they don't have shots left so I don't see why it's so urgent to shoot her, and how shooting her (especially yoloshooting, and not even voting for the shooter) is better information than voting for two people, and deciding who will be the shooter out of them after that. It's a lot more discussion and attitudes being revealed.
dude.
fuck off.
i'm trying to organize that shit for like 3 days now, andnobody fucking cares, and nobody gives any input. i'm done.
and if she is the shooter, then shooting her confirms the person that shot her, and all following people who will shoot, because the mafia shooter is already out. which means won game.
Anyway, if Sakura flips Scum Self-Vig I have bads news for you
why?
if sakura flips scum self vig, she ordered her partner to shoot CB, sincce noone else claimed to have done it. it clears me as conf town either way.
now it would clear you as conf town too ofc, because gumpy wasn't even here, meaning that you can't be the perpetrator. in fact, if she is suicide scum, then we end up with 21 conf town! ain't that great?
if sakura flips scum self vig, she ordered her partner to shoot CB, sincce noone else claimed to have done it. it clears me as conf town either way.
now it would clear you as conf town too ofc, because gumpy wasn't even here, meaning that you can't be the perpetrator. in fact, if she is suicide scum, then we end up with 21 conf town! ain't that great?
2 conf town*
fat finger typo.
fat finger typo.
it's my fault for not making a post clearly detailing why shooting sakura is the thing town should aspire towards, but really i didn't care enough after being ignored and scoffed at for the past 3 days to make a list to convince probably noone.
Except im going to flip town day vig.
In the end, you ended up doing the exact same thing i did, and for the same reason, how do you align that with a scum mindset I have no idea.
Topic Starter
Sorry for the delay. My internet connection has been unstable lately.
Sakura, Town 1-shot Day Vigilante, was shot.
Votecount has reset.
Votecount has reset.
No, the problem is that scum probably still has their shot so we lost unless we hit scum now, and Tanz shooting Sakura did not help us getting much closer to finding them. If Sakura was scum we still would't have lost at LyLo, so I really really don't understand why it was so important to shoot her, especially by Tanz himself and not the other scum candidates... We should have been worrying about possible vigshot scum, not shotless possible scum, risk/reward was really bad here.
So I guess it's high time we started discussing the pool of 2 people that'll be shooting/get shot..
So I guess it's high time we started discussing the pool of 2 people that'll be shooting/get shot..
Oh actually we don't lose just yet if we don't hit scum, dunno why I thought that.
[quote="Chamelo_Th"]And now the problem is: who shot?[/quote
tanz did?
tanz did?
I hate mobile.
Urrgh sorry guys its hard to make time to post here... -.-
So I see Sakura got shot and flipped town... so maybe its safe to asume Tanz shot because of his previous posts?
So I see Sakura got shot and flipped town... so maybe its safe to asume Tanz shot because of his previous posts?
you have to give me credit, i tried for 3 days to basically herd a bunch of retarded cats.
that people here even have doubt that i shot after me clearly stating that i shot just on the last page is telling enough about the state of the game, and the state of the subforum.
i'll let you try to solve it, if anything consistntly works in osu mafia, it's town getting retardedly lucky at some point and winning the game through stupid random shit.
that people here even have doubt that i shot after me clearly stating that i shot just on the last page is telling enough about the state of the game, and the state of the subforum.
i'll let you try to solve it, if anything consistntly works in osu mafia, it's town getting retardedly lucky at some point and winning the game through stupid random shit.
Damn, at this point I can totally understand how you felt when both you and Sakura decided to just go ahead and shoot.
Please guys, try playing the game, I proposed that Navi and Zexion shoot each other one way or the other, please suggest two names, do something, comment on Tanz shooting, ffs..
Drezi and Gumpyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
congratz, they're your bunch of retarded cats now!Drezi wrote:
Damn, at this point I can totally understand how you felt when both you and Sakura decided to just go ahead and shoot.
if you neither talk nor listen ina game about talking and listening, it's quite problematic.
he literally is trying since he replaced in. i tried way before that. me and CB tried since the beginning of the game.Chamelo_Th wrote:
There we go.
Drezi, you're coming too late. ;-;
really, nobody came to late, people jsut chose to not listen in any way, shape or form.
I got the flu whilie studying for exams and finishing assignments
Probably a good idea to find a replacement for me if you haven't started trying yet.
Probably a good idea to find a replacement for me if you haven't started trying yet.
Ok, actually I'm fairly confident that Navi is scum, so Zexion please shoot Navi. If anyone has any objections or a better plan I'm all ears.
If I get shot, and Zexion still won't shoot Navi, we have a scumteam If Navi (or anyone) flips scum Self-Vig, do not trust the shooter unconditionally.
If Navi (or anyone) flips scum Self-Vig, do not trust the shooter unconditionally.So, you're planning to shoot Navi over his passive lurking and copying responses, or was there something more that i missed?
Over the way he makes his posts, yes, last few games I read him correctly, and while obviously I can be wrong, it's still the best I can think of now.
last few games hehehe
i agree to this.Drezi wrote:
Ok, actually I'm fairly confident that Navi is scum, so Zexion please shoot Navi. If anyone has any objections or a better plan I'm all ears.
^ I second this.
It's not like we have any better idea for now.
It's not like we have any better idea for now.
Topic Starter
Everyone except Tanzklaue and C_Th has been prodded.
Searching for Nyquill's replacement
Searching for Nyquill's replacement
Where is Zexion anyway so he can vig me
Or alternatively, Drezi can shoot me.
Or alternatively, Drezi can shoot me.
Sorry, I've been busy playing the tournament matches today. Ehm, anyways..
Anyways what is with this setup, nobody who is target is being helpful in any sort of way ._-
I don't mind shooting Navizel either, but would somebody explain to me what are the benefits in case he doesn't turn out scum? Where do we go from that?
Anyways what is with this setup, nobody who is target is being helpful in any sort of way ._-
I don't mind shooting Navizel either, but would somebody explain to me what are the benefits in case he doesn't turn out scum? Where do we go from that?
well normally people would have strong opinions for or against someone being shot, which we could use to get better reads etc, but here noone seems to give a damn, so what do you suggest we do?
2 or probably 3 town vigs are out, so I have 50% chance of being self vig, won't shoot anyone. we make scummy players shoot.
How about Vote: Nyquill and Zexion?
idk why Nav wants to be killed so i think I'll keep him alive a little more.
idk why Nav wants to be killed so i think I'll keep him alive a little more.
This game is becomming utterly boring. I might shoot myself, if it continues like this.
prod dodge!
Zexion and Nyquill is kill?
Topic Starter
If I can't find Nyquill's replacement within 48 hours, I will modkill the slot.
However, if I need to find more replacement other than Nyquill after 48 hours from this post, I will declare this game ABANDONED.
However, if I need to find more replacement other than Nyquill after 48 hours from this post, I will declare this game ABANDONED.
osu! mafia is dead
like I'm the one to talk
like I'm the one to talk
If anything, I'd like to shoot Zexion now since I'm quite sure I'm a self-vig. (trust me, I usually bankrupted in monopoly)
Topic Starter
DakeDekaane replaces Nyquill.
Hi guys, let's see if I got everything
Sakura shot Caligno
Tanz shot Sakura
Both ded peep were town non self-vigs.
And now you guys want to shoot Zexion/Navizel. Are you considering them just because lurking?
Also I agree with Drezi and let both shoot each other, I'm sure there's at least one scum there. Else I'd say Zexion should shoot, and then we shoot him if Navi flips town? question would be, who?
Sakura shot Caligno
Tanz shot Sakura
Both ded peep were town non self-vigs.
And now you guys want to shoot Zexion/Navizel. Are you considering them just because lurking?
Also I agree with Drezi and let both shoot each other, I'm sure there's at least one scum there. Else I'd say Zexion should shoot, and then we shoot him if Navi flips town? question would be, who?
Alternatively we can lynch Navizel becuase this post sucks, like in, if you're town, why are you okay with being shot? we have no room for lolgambits so get your shit together.Navizel wrote:
Where is Zexion anyway so he can vig me
Or alternatively, Drezi can shoot me.
Gumica wrote:
I'll shoot tomorrow if Zexion doesn't show up
And these aren't better.Chamelo_Th wrote:
If anything, I'd like to shoot Zexion now since I'm quite sure I'm a self-vig. (trust me, I usually bankrupted in monopoly)
^This means Tanz and Drezi are my current townreads.
Town needs to understand that we can't just go around and shoot people. We have 50% chance of killing ourselves, so either we make scumreads shoot other scumreads, or we lynch them.
Cth is my closest to scum cause bandwagon