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Daniel Ingram - Raise This Barn

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rezoons
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rezoons

Ultimate wrote:

Please get a few testplayers to check it out too ^^.
Here is the few testplayers i managed to get:

The_badin:
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Translation:
rezoons - So, do you think the timing is ok?
The_badin - Did you decrease the OD?
rezoons - No, it's the same as before.
The_badin - So, i think the timing is good :)

shARPII:
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Translation:
shARPII - Yeah, the timing is not bad on the last part.

(Btw, i had to reupload the mapset because some slider were bad in the insane diff because of the "recalculate slider length" which has some bug.)
Teara
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Teara
Well.

Time the raise the barn.
ztrot
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ztrot
I'd like to think that this timing could still use a bit of work and there are sections that are clearly overmapped and sections with very odd hit sounding
(on the insane) will post in full detail when I wake up but overall this can be a decent map.
rezoons
Topic Starter
rezoons

ztrot wrote:

I'd like to think that this timing could still use a bit of work
Actually i always made the timing checked by some people with the map and the current one was the first one where everybody says that it was ok. But i think that whatever timing we'll use there will always be someone that will find the timing off. It's because the song hasn't really a clear timing. (If there was one we wouldn't have all this trouble) I wish i could get back in time and told myself to not map this. But well, i promess to never map a song with an odd timing again. ^^

and there are sections that are clearly overmapped
Actually i thought the whole map was overmapped and would get deleted. If it's only some sections, it's better that what i thought. ^^

and sections with very odd hit sounding (on the insane)
Odd. I thought i copy/paste the hitsound of the Insane on the other diff so why only this diff have the issue?

overall this can be a decent map.
Usually the comment i have is "your map is boring". I guess "your map is decent" is an improvement XD
Shohei Ohtani
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go go go rezoons nyan

quick before I revive my version :P

Quick note for the tags: Remove z-aune, since their diff isn't included in the mapset.
rezoons
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rezoons

CDFA wrote:

Quick note for the tags: Remove z-aune, since their diff isn't included in the mapset.
Thank you CDFA ^^
Actually, i think i can remove the other tag (except "Gabe") because they are pretty useless. XD
Aurele
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RAISE THIS BARN
RAISE THIS BARN

ONE

TWO

THREE

BUBBLED
Yuzeyun
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Yuzeyun
RAISE THIS BARN, RAISE THIS BARN, ONE, TWO, THREE, MICRONDE
#watzoda
rezoons
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rezoons
Everything explained here!

_Gezo_ wrote:

RAISE THIS BARN, RAISE THIS BARN, ONE, TWO, THREE, MICRONDE
#watzoda
RAYEZIZBARNE, RAYEZIZBARNE, OUANE, TOU, FRUI, MICRONDE with the french accent!
Aurele
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Four micro-onde
AHAHAHAAHAH.

got it.
jericho2442
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waiting on ztrots mod before i touch this, but really i like the insane a lot but the hardest "raise this barn" diff feels soooo overmapped and not needed in places.

goodjob for the set and i will prolly mod after ztrotty has finished
rezoons
Topic Starter
rezoons

jericho2442 wrote:

waiting on ztrots mod before i touch this, but really i like the insane a lot but the hardest "raise this barn" diff feels soooo overmapped and not needed in places.

goodjob for the set and i will prolly mod after ztrotty has finished
Actually, i just wanted a diff fun to play because others are...... "not challenging". I always wondered if i could let it in the mapset or not because i knew it would cause trouble. If it creates so many problem i will delete it. I'm not sur if it's overmapped or not because it looks like every people i ask has a different definition of the word. But well, when i made the diff tested the reaction were always "don't worry, there are far worse overmapped map that are ranked so this one should be ok" so i tried to see if it could be ranked or not.

And the insane.... wel it's random jump and randomly shaped slider everywhere...... i like this style. XD

Anyway, thank you for support ^^
dkun
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I'm going to take over for ztrot since he's now alumni and since I was the one that pointed him to the map to begin with. :P

Looking into the timing of this map with a few other team members. But other than that, I'm going to pop this as it seemed to be a tentative bubble to begin with.

I'll post my mod upon confirmation on timing.
Charles445
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Charles445
someone verify this
I have no idea at this point

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ztrot
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ztrot
well nope I've got this still because I was removed for reasons I'm not to sure of.

[Raise this barn]
Not gonna hold back lets get rid of this over map/add more and get you on track!
00:04:062 (4) - Remove this note create a slider with the 00:03:946 (3) - connecting with the 00:04:177 (5) -
00:04:523 (6) - Remove this note and create a slider with the 00:04:408 (5) - ending at 00:04:639 (7) -

00:06:044 I noticed there are some places that you could of mapped more to the banjo to justify stream but you didn't take advantage of that sad face :( In other words if your going to go stream crazy why not make it consistent.
00:35:446 (4) - no audio cue here at all I would just remove it.
00:36:369 (9) - Again there is no audio cue for this and no need to map to something that doesn't give a cue, of course if you had custom hitsounds that made something that adds or goes with the music that could work same with the 1st note I suggested above.
00:42:716 (2) - not sure why you didn't break it down stream crazy here either.
01:28:639 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,1,2) - the claps here just don't sound to appealing I would suggest finishes on every other starting measure meaning the big white tick.

In short I think either you should tone it down to match the rest of the map or turn up the mapping and follow things like the banjo riffs and try and focus hitsounds around what is going on in the music if there is a finish like sound use a finish vice versa.
dkun
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On top of that, I'd like to confirm Charles' timing. Stick is back with ztrot. :p
rezoons
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rezoons
Hi everyone :),

ztrot wrote:

00:04:062 (4) - Remove this note create a slider with the 00:03:946 (3) - connecting with the 00:04:177 (5) -
00:04:523 (6) - Remove this note and create a slider with the 00:04:408 (5) - ending at 00:04:639 (7) -
Why these two? I don't unerstand. I mean i think that you want the slider in order to not play 00:04:062 (4) and 00:04:523 (6) but i don't understand why? I hear a note of the violin here just like others so i don't understand your point. Besides this is the only stream which is also in the Insane so should i do the same change in the insane as well? Sorry, i guess you have a good reason to tell me this but i don't understand it.

00:06:044 I noticed there are some places that you could of mapped more to the banjo to justify stream but you didn't take advantage of that sad face :( In other words if your going to go stream crazy why not make it consistent.
Actually i hate stream. But since i hate spinner even more and breaks kill the flow of the map i put some when we can clearly hear the violon playing the stream. I prefer mapping the dominant sound rather than the background music that i have trouble to hear. So in this case i map the vocals and the violin depending on which one is the "strongest" in the song. An since people react to the map like this:

jericho2442 wrote:

the hardest "raise this barn" diff feels soooo overmapped and not needed in places.
Maybe it will be better to remove things rather than add some.

00:35:446 (4) - no audio cue here at all I would just remove it.
00:36:369 (9) - Again there is no audio cue for this and no need to map to something that doesn't give a cue, of course if you had custom hitsounds that made something that adds or goes with the music that could work same with the 1st note I suggested above.
Ok, i agree and delete them. I also reworked the pattern because this jump was meh...... Now it's meh+.......

00:42:716 (2) - not sure why you didn't break it down stream crazy here either.
Because i hate streams. So, i don't put any unless the music makes it pretty clear that "you need a stream here". I hate map with random streams barely audible in the song unless you put the playback rate at 50% and hear carefully the background music. If you look at the map my "creazy streams" are at 00:01:870 (1) - 00:20:793 (1) - 00:44:562 (2) - 01:01:177 (1) - 01:19:523 (1) - and they are justified by the very loud violin which play it. Here at 00:42:716 (2) - i hear not 5 notes but only 2 notes and the first one hold until the second one come. So, i put a slider. But I tried to slow down the song and effectively i think i can hear a 3rd note on the white tick so if you think it's that important i can still change the slider into another half the size with an arrow.

01:28:639 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,1,2) - the claps here just don't sound to appealing I would suggest finishes on every other starting measure meaning the big white tick.
I removed all the clap and put a finish when there is a "big sound" in the music and a whistle in the other white tick when there is no background music. I'm not sure if it's good or not but if it is i'll do the same on the other diff.

In short I think either you should tone it down to match the rest of the map or turn up the mapping and follow things like the banjo riffs and try and focus hitsounds around what is going on in the music if there is a finish like sound use a finish vice versa.
This map is crazy enough. No need to increase the difficulty. So i prefer tonning it down. But well, does that mean that i have to remap everything?

Actually i'm now more confused than anything else about the diff. You told me it's overmapped and 2/5 of the mod tell me to add more stream. I think i'll wait to see jericho2442's mod who seemed to think i should remove a lot of things and see what he thinks about it. But if it gets even more confusing i'll remove this diff. I just hope i'll not have to do this.

dkun wrote:

On top of that, I'd like to confirm Charles' timing.
The timing has been applied. What am i supposed to do to confirm it?

Charles445 wrote:

someone verify this
Well, someone also verified the other timings so........ Anyway, thank you for the help. :D

P.S.: I finally found an apple slider youhou:

But don't worry i won't put it in any diff. There is enough apple like this! :D (And this one is unrankable btw)
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rezoons
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rezoons
Ok, Charles445's timing has been applied.
rezoons
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rezoons
Ok, since some people has been asking a few times i'll write here what's going on with the map because i'm too lazy to reply to everyone individually. (i don't know if i can triple post or not. If i can't you can remove this post and the previous one)
I've updated the timing a week ago but right after i had to move out so i couldn't do anything for a few days.
Right after i asked ztrot what should i do to confirm Charles' timing but he never answered.
Then i asked dkun what shoud i do and if he can take over ztrot and he answered me that he'll see with ztrot but it will take some time.

And on a completly different note i would like to precise that if a BAT think i you should remove the "controversial diff" i'd prefer that he told me clearly because i had previous issue with this map where some people tried to told me to remove a diff without being blunt and trying to use subtility..... But i never understood what they meant and finally loose a lot of time. And i really don't want that it happens again.
ztrot
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ztrot
Dude I'm sorry about taking so long to reply I have a full time job so things like this are hard to handle quickly, so I'm at this point I've looked over what you have changed and even tho you missed my point with the sliders it is okay. If you want it to stay as I have no qualms and will give you a bubble timing and everything seems pretty spot on now. AGAIN allow me to tell you how sorry I am for making you wait so long.

Also I think your map would do better without the diff in terms of complaints to overmapping tho as I've stated it could be mapped quite streamy due to the audio cues of the banjo and strings in the song. The choice is yours.
rezoons
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rezoons

ztrot wrote:

Dude I'm sorry about taking so long to reply I have a full time job so things like this are hard to handle quickly
I know what it is to have a full time job and hardly any free time and i understand completly. But i don't blame you for being long to reply, i blame you because you took over my map knowing you wouldn't have a lot of time to do it. There are a lot of other BAT way more active and everything could have been fixed earlier. Mancuso told me he was about it to take it but you were faster, jericho also seemed interested and they have probably much more time than you. So, i really didn't understand why you took my map and why you never answer my PM.

so I'm at this point I've looked over what you have changed and even tho you missed my point with the sliders it is okay. If you want it to stay as I have no qualms and will give you a bubble timing and everything seems pretty spot on now. AGAIN allow me to tell you how sorry I am for making you wait so long.
So, does that mean that the timing is ok? And i've been told that only the BAT who popped could rebubbled.

Also I think your map would do better without the diff in terms of complaints to overmapping tho as I've stated it could be mapped quite streamy due to the audio cues of the banjo and strings in the song. The choice is yours.
Well, this diff is crazy and the only reason i let it, it was because it's fun to play. I agree that it has a lot of flaws but if it's rankable i'll let it. If i wanted a perfect mapset i would have removed it, in fact i would never start mapping it but well, i'm tired of this map. It was my first map, i remapped it a lot of time and keep insisted to rank it because i didn't know that it was bad. I remapped it several time until what i've now which is.....ok. If i wanted a perfect mapset i would remove the Easy diff then remap the first half of the Hard but i'm sick of this song. I know the rating will be low and people will hate me for this but if the diff is rankable i'll let it.

First times are always painful

Edit: in my opinion i don't find this diff overmapped because every note correspond to either the violon or the voice (except those that you told me to remove). I just consider it stupidly difficult to have a crazy map for a quiet song.
ztrot
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I took it over because I was aked to look into it seeing as I had delt with the composers timing in the past and funny fact he tends to use the same type of speed changes and timing in almost everything another reason is I was under the impression that no one was looking out side of dkun and jericho. Mind you my main reason is because I was moved over to inactive shile modding your map and that made very little sense to me so I wanted to see this through to show that I'm still active enough to get things done but I've already given the okay to the others that were working on this that is is good to go in my eyes how they see it is a diffrent story ande relys on there thought process I would assume but you have my seal of approval and I'l check into that only the popper can rebubble stuff because that might be a new rule damn I really am getting old.
rezoons
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rezoons

ztrot wrote:

I took it over because I was aked to look into it seeing as I had delt with the composers timing in the past and funny fact he tends to use the same type of speed changes and timing in almost everything another reason is I was under the impression that no one was looking out side of dkun and jericho. Mind you my main reason is because I was moved over to inactive shile modding your map and that made very little sense to me so I wanted to see this through to show that I'm still active enough to get things done but I've already given the okay to the others that were working on this that is is good to go in my eyes how they see it is a diffrent story ande relys on there thought process I would assume but you have my seal of approval and I'l check into that only the popper can rebubble stuff because that might be a new rule damn I really am getting old.
Ok. I think i understand. Thank you for the answer. About the "only the popper can rebubble stuff" it's TheVileOne who told me that. I trust him but i don't know if it's an actual rule or not.
dkun
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I'll be doing a re-check within a day or two. Sorry for taking so long!
rezoons
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rezoons

dkun wrote:

I'll be doing a re-check within a day or two. Sorry for taking so long!
Thank you very much ^^
TheVileOne
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Did I say that?

I don't think it is a rule. Quality disputes tend to be handled from the popper. The popper is obligated to recheck the map unless otherwise stated. Other BATs can give their opinions about the map and rebubble it. The rebubbler should at least contact the popper if the issues pointed out in the popper's post weren't entirely fixed or have a good reason to rectify the map as being fixed. The rebubbler might be put into an uncomfortable position by bubbling a map with unrectified issues without consulting the popper.

For future reference, don't wait for a BAT to recheck a map unless they explicitly mention that they will. If a BAT is doing their job properly, then it should be obvious whether they are going to recheck or not. It is more confusing to mappers when they leave it ambiguous. Ask the BAT if you are not sure. Although dkun popped the bubble, I wouldn't have expected ztrot (who didn't pop it) to handle it.
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rezoons
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rezoons

TheVileOne wrote:

Did I say that?

I don't think it is a rule. Quality disputes tend to be handled from the popper. The popper is obligated to recheck the map unless otherwise stated. Other BATs can give their opinions about the map and rebubble it. The rebubbler should at least contact the popper if the issues pointed out in the popper's post weren't entirely fixed or have a good reason to rectify the map as being fixed.
Well the conversation was this:
2013-08-23 20:16 TheVileOne: hey. I see you're stuck in popped bubble purgatory
2013-08-23 20:17 rezoons: ztrot ignored my PM so i try to contact dkun and convince him to take over the map. Bu yeah, i'm stucked XD
2013-08-23 20:19 rezoons: But well, the beatmap is quite old and not really good so it's not that important if it stays popped a little bit ^^
2013-08-23 20:24 TheVileOne: The one who popped it is responsible for rebubbling it if i remember correctly
2013-08-23 20:25 rezoons: Well, i didn't know that. Interesting. It will help me. Thank you very much ^^
So, yeah. You didn't really said that. But in my head it was turned into "it's a rule". Sorry for that. :o
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Well ztrot should recheck when the reason for popping is subjective. In my opinion he is obligated to recheck. He is not required to recheck. This whole issue is muddled because dkun popped the bubble, and ztrot tag-teamed with him to get the map fixed, giving the expectation that it will be rebubbled. Both of them took on the responsibility to get the map rebubbled. They are supposed to instruct you what to do next. Checking with the BAT is the best way to be sure of how to handle things. The popper may want to check the map himself instead of having some other BAT check it. I didn't say that they are the only ones that can rebubble. Other BATs can check the map and decide whether it is bubble worthy or not.

Edit: changed the wording
rezoons
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rezoons

TheVileOne wrote:

Well ztrot should recheck when the reason for popping is subjective. In my opinion he is obligated to recheck. He is not required to recheck, but he should have made that clear. However this whole issue is muddled because dkun popped the bubble, and ztrot tag-teamed with him to get the map rebubbled. Both of them took on the responsibility to get the map rebubbled. They are supposed to instruct you what to do next. However it may take them some time. If you get it modded by other BATs it may get rebubbled more quickly. I didn't say that they are the only ones that can rebubble.
Ok, well i misunderstand it. Sorry for that. (And sorry to ztrot too) I don't really understand everything but i think i understand the idea.
But about what i should be doing, well, i guess i just have to wait for dkun recheck and hope it will be ok. Ztrot told me in the previous message that he was ok but i guess that another recheck won't hurt anything. If it's still not good i will look for more mod or give up depending on my mood.
ztrot
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there is no need to give up I had looked it over I just wanted some feed back from dkun I myself am happy with it so in turn I'll go ahead and give it my thumbs up good luck and god speed
rezoons
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rezoons

ztrot wrote:

there is no need to give up I had looked it over I just wanted some feed back from dkun I myself am happy with it so in turn I'll go ahead and give it my thumbs up good luck and god speed
The problem i have is just that i can't catch him. He told me 9 days ago:
I'll be doing a re-check within a day or two. Sorry for taking so long!
And nothing after. After 7 days i send him a PM but he never answer it.

In short, i don't know what i'm supposed to do that's why i asked you.
Thank you for your support :).
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Kurai
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Ranked !
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gratz :)
rezoons
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rezoons
Yay!

/me go back to his other maps.

Inb4 Dafuq is the "raise this barn" diff! Instant 1'd!
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Oyatsu
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Wow! Gratz, rezoons :D
AnreFM
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AnreFM
Finally!
Congratz Rezoons :D


rezoons wrote:

NEVER...... MAPPING...... PONY...... SONG....... AGAIN.........
happy623
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happy623
gratz for 1st!!
Umi
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happy623 wrote:

gratz for 1st!!
it's 2nd xD anyways gratz rez ;3, but yeah

rezoons wrote:

NEVER...... MAPPING...... PONY...... SONG....... AGAIN.........
happy623
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happy623

-Umi- wrote:

it's 2nd xD anyways gratz rez ;3, but yeah
okay my poor eyes ;-; sorry and gratz again!
Kinomi
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gratz
Pagliaccio
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Rasist Barn azazazazaz
congratz :3
AruOtta
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YAY, More MLP <3
Congrats =D
rezoons
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rezoons
Ok, the bet are open for the final rating of my old map (Very old! Like i-swear-i-don't-map-like-this-now old!)
So, here are the current paticipant:










I need more 1 to win!!!!!!!!!
Anyway, the current rating are demoralizing......

-Umi- wrote:

It's 2nd xD anyways gratz rez ;3, but yeah
No! It's the first one!!!!!!! The second one is WAY better than this one!
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UnitedWeSin
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Gratz rezoons!
You deserved it. :)
rezoons
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rezoons

UnitedWeSin wrote:

Gratz rezoons!
You deserved it. :)
Hi :),

I don't really know why i deserved it but like you said,


And i'm really sorry for this: https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/p/2048112 ^^

Kenterz9 wrote:

YAY, More MLP <3
Congrats =D

Pagliaccio wrote:

Rasist Barn azazazazaz
congratz :3

baldrace wrote:

gratz

happy623 wrote:

gratz for 1st!!

Oyatsu wrote:

Wow! Gratz, rezoons :D

pimpG wrote:

gratz :)
Thanks guys for the support ^^

Kurai wrote:

Ranked !
Thank you Kurai! :)
Aurele
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congratz! :>
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rezoons wrote:

Ok, the bet are open for the final rating of my old map (Very old! Like i-swear-i-don't-map-like-this-now old!)
So, here are the current paticipant:










I need more 1 to win!!!!!!!!!
Anyway, we are all pretty close (except Krah but he is a looser)

-Umi- wrote:

It's 2nd xD anyways gratz rez ;3, but yeah
No! It's the first one!!!!!!! The second one is WAY better than this one!
Non je veux que ça soit à peine plus qu'Anjuu ok
je suis late ok
on m'a rien dit ok
FML ok
rezoons
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rezoons

_Gezo_ wrote:

Non je veux que ça soit à peine plus qu'Anjuu ok
je suis late ok
on m'a rien dit ok
FML ok
Si je t'ai pas prévenu c'est pour une raison XD Si j'avais demandé à tous mes amis évidemment que tu serais dedans mais ce n'est pas le cas. Je n'ai demandé qu'aux amis qui ont participé aux développement de la map à un moment ou à un autre et qui la connaissait bien. :D

  1. -umi-, cherry et Heanday ont été là tout le long de cette galère. A vrai dire -umi- et cherry sont les seuls dont je ne suis pas sur s'ils ont effectivement vu la map ou pas mais bon heanday l'a déja testé.
  2. The_badin a testé la moitié des timing de la map ainsi que plusieurs fois ma diff pété pour voir s'il était bien fun a joué.
  3. shARPII a fait plus ou moins la même chose.
  4. Gabe a fait une GD complete dessus et connaissais aussi donc bien la map.
  5. Krah, il l'a regardé plusieurs fois et même s'il a jamais rien dit de bien interessant dessus et que son avis tout le monde s'en fout je lui ai quand même demandé pour le lulz de le voir se planté completement.
  6. Et enfin TheVileOne l'a bien moddé et m'a soutenu par MP plusieurs fois.
Donc tu vois que si je ne t'ai pas pris ce n'était pas parce que je t'avais oublié ou parce que je ne t'aimais pas. J'avais juste tout calculé ;)

Et quand aux note c'est juste que 95% des gens qui jouent a cette map sont des noob brony qui sont incapable de différencié une map de 2008 d'une map de 2012 alors mieux vaut ne pas faire attention au rating. :o
Suffit de voir la différence entre le rating réel et la prédiction de ceux qui s'y connaissent.

Oh! And i recover some things related to the troubling ranking of the map XD

And i did basically the same thing with Gabe XD
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Secretpipe
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FINNALLY :D/
Gratz Rezoons :3
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esse map
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