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Lanturn

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Joined March 2012

Lanturn 2014-11-04T21:59:16+00:00

Sorry so late.

Artist: 情報処理部
Romanised: Because we don't have an official romanization (Unless someone has one), I'd suggest going off of alacat's map to maintain consistency minus the singers names. Use Jouhou Shoribu instead of Shori-bu.

Because you're omitting the names of the singers in place of their band names. I suggest adding their names in kanji to the tags. 大久保瑠美津田美波種田梨沙

[Karia]
The diff is a bit dense for my tastes on a normal. To me it seems like you try to get every little beat, which is more reserved for hard. Comparing the rest of the diffs though, this fits decently, so it should be fine as is. Otherwise this diff is well crafted and doesn't have much else work to be done for it.

01:19:627 (2) - Not sure if this is intentional but actually in this whole section you're missing whistles when comparing it to the second kiai. basically this whistle and similar parts. the tail of 01:19:110 (1) - is missing a clap. Double check this section and make sure the hitsounds are correct as it seems a little inconsistent. 01:28:248 (3) - was another one I found missing a whistle.
03:07:213 (5) - I'm not really following this one. I realize you want to get the kicks in, but the way the violin or whatever it is that you seem to be following before should be more important. Consider removing this and starting a 1/1 slider or two 1/1 circles at 03:07:386 (4) - with claps.

[A Mystery]

00:15:490 (2,3) - This doesn't feel like a jump at all, because the emphasized note jump should be from (3,4). Move the (3) to be in DS range of (2) so (3,4) is the jump. Jumping two violin notes is feels much better than jumping from an empty slider end to a violin note.
00:33:851 (5) - I would raise the DS of these 1/4 notes by around 0.2-0.3 DS (0.6-0.7). To be honest it's a bit difficult to see the extra 1/4 note here when this is all bundled up at ar8.
00:42:731 (1) - Another example of a jump that feels a bit forced because of the empty slider end. I would personally move this back into DS range.
00:56:868 (9) - Optional, but consider deleting this as it goes against this combo only following vocals.
01:07:213 (7) - In all honesty this really welcomes 1/2 circles. It feels odd to play this slider when the vocals scream at you. Consider deleting and adding 3 1/2 circles.
02:41:524 (3) - Another forced jump I'm not really fond of. This would be better off stacked on (4) and adjust (2) for DS.

The only other thing I'll mention is that you should probably reduce the DS of the 1/4 reverse sliders to distance snap. You normally don't find even small jumps like these in hard diffs often. I don't even think Insane uses 1/4 jumps like these. Consider also using the same DS suggestion as the beginning of this mod.

Call me back for a recheck after. And yes, I really did vanish for a few days there if you were wondering. (Blame Ar nosurge

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Setz

1,419 posts

Joined August 2013

Topic Starter

Setz 2014-11-04T22:11:21+00:00

made all metadata changes you suggested.

will update the GDs when they respond

A Mystery

868 posts

Joined April 2013

A Mystery 2014-11-04T23:55:05+00:00

Lanturn wrote:
Sorry so late.

[A Mystery]
00:15:490 (2,3) - This doesn't feel like a jump at all, because the emphasized note jump should be from (3,4). Move the (3) to be in DS range of (2) so (3,4) is the jump. Jumping two violin notes is feels much better than jumping from an empty slider end to a violin note. - Sorry I'm not very good at this yet, changed.
00:33:851 (5) - I would raise the DS of these 1/4 notes by around 0.2-0.3 DS (0.6-0.7). To be honest it's a bit difficult to see the extra 1/4 note here when this is all bundled up at ar8. - Since so many people suggest that I guess you are right, however I still do not see the big deal, even for a hard.
00:42:731 (1) - Another example of a jump that feels a bit forced because of the empty slider end. I would personally move this back into DS range. - I still made a jump (with (3) and (4)), but this one is more predictable and readable.
00:56:868 (9) - Optional, but consider deleting this as it goes against this combo only following vocals. - going to let this one stay
01:07:213 (7) - In all honesty this really welcomes 1/2 circles. It feels odd to play this slider when the vocals scream at you. Consider deleting and adding 3 1/2 circles. - Actually I really liked this. I am going to let this stay as well.
02:41:524 (3) - Another forced jump I'm not really fond of. This would be better off stacked on (4) and adjust (2) for DS. - I agree but I fixed it in a different way which I hope is good as well.

The only other thing I'll mention is that you should probably reduce the DS of the 1/4 reverse sliders to distance snap. You normally don't find even small jumps like these in hard diffs often. I don't even think Insane uses 1/4 jumps like these. Consider also using the same DS suggestion as the beginning of this mod. - This is also said a lot, I made every 1/4 rhythm jumps closer to each other so they overlap, but not exactly like the distance snap. I changed it and it should not add any extra difficulty to the map.

Dammit why do I always forget to attache this

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lolia

1,356 posts

Joined May 2012

lolia 2014-11-05T09:56:42+00:00

Lanturn wrote:
[Karia]
The diff is a bit dense for my tastes on a normal. To me it seems like you try to get every little beat, which is more reserved for hard. Comparing the rest of the diffs though, this fits decently, so it should be fine as is. Otherwise this diff is well crafted and doesn't have much else work to be done for it. ><
01:19:627 (2) - Not sure if this is intentional but actually in this whole section you're missing whistles when comparing it to the second kiai. basically this whistle and similar parts. the tail of 01:19:110 (1) - is missing a clap. Double check this section and make sure the hitsounds are correct as it seems a little inconsistent. 01:28:248 (3) - was another one I found missing a whistle. Added the clap on (1)'s tail. But I want to keep (1,2)'s rhythm though it would be miss the whistle and 01:20:144 's clap cuz following the vocal is better about this to me And personally (3) need not whistle cuz whistle is in 1/4 beat QwQ
03:07:213 (5) - I'm not really following this one. I realize you want to get the kicks in, but the way the violin or whatever it is that you seem to be following before should be more important. Consider removing this and starting a 1/1 slider or two 1/1 circles at 03:07:386 (4) - with claps. changed to 1/1 reverse slider

Thanks for modding!

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Setz

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Topic Starter

Setz 2014-11-05T18:57:10+00:00

updated both GDs

Lanturn

osu! Alumni

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Joined March 2012

Lanturn 2014-11-06T05:31:03+00:00

Alrighty. Fixed a few more things, Some timing points & audio lead-in.

Good luck getting ranked. Great set

Setz

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Topic Starter

Setz 2014-11-06T05:35:34+00:00

thank you very much sir

[ Setsuna ]

422 posts

Joined October 2013

[ Setsuna ] 2014-11-06T06:37:40+00:00

omg setz hurry up and rank

Lust

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Joined January 2013

Lust 2014-11-07T02:35:18+00:00

log

21:22 Lust: sup
21:22 *Lust is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/490546 Jouhou Shoribu - Se-no! [Insane]]
21:22 Lust: lets get this going
21:22 Setz206: ok
21:22 Lust: 00:33:593 (4,5,6,7) - i suggest reversing the location of this, have the triplet where 4 is currently and have 4 where 5 is currently
21:23 Lust: provides for better flow imo
21:23 Setz206: alright
21:23 Lust: 00:45:317 (1,2,3,4) - this is overmapped im afraid, way too much so
21:24 Lust: this creates a false sense of pressure and ruins the atmosphere you are creating in the map here
21:24 Lust: 00:45:403 (2,4) - deleting these two can suffice
21:24 Lust: 00:45:489 (2) - even this could be removed 
21:24 Lust: but for transitional purposes its fine tbh
21:25 Setz206: ok, i will just remove 2 and 4, and keep the resulting pattern, it should be fine still
21:25 Lust: 01:02:213 (8,9,10,11) - same jazz here
21:26 Setz206: hmm there, i hear the violin or whatever it is
21:26 Lust: 01:18:765 (8,9,10,11) - and here as well o.o
21:26 Setz206: same there...
21:26 Lust: if you listen to it back on 25% you can hear that there isnt really much in terms of a beat, usually you follow a certain pattern and in these parts you break that consistency causing for an unnatural play
21:27 Setz206: hmm
21:28 Setz206: so you suggest removing the note son the blue icks?
21:28 Lust: yep
21:28 Setz206: the ranked tv size for this map has these streams.... ah well
21:28 Setz206: let me see what i can do
21:30 Setz206: redoing thse parts might take some work
21:30 Lust: the ranking BATs must have been less strict on it as i am :P
21:31 Lust: 02:08:075 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - oh jeez this will need some rework as well
21:32 Lust: 02:30:144 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - well essentially i guess you can spot the rest on your own now
21:33 Setz206: yeah
21:33 Setz206: this might take a while then >.>
21:33 Lust: other than the stream issue the map is good to go
21:33 Setz206: alright, i will try to get some new patterns for these parts
21:33 *Lust is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/493255 Jouhou Shoribu - Se-no! [Karia's Normal]]
21:33 Lust: 02:14:282 (6) - consider adding an NC to be consistent to the rest of the diffs

Call me back for a second re-check after youve sorted everything out

Setz

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Topic Starter

Setz 2014-11-07T05:10:07+00:00

ok, i made changes to the parts you pointed out. the only thing I ddint change was the very first thing about swapping triple and single for flow, I tried it, and this became very confusing to play because of spacing. the streams I left in the map mirror something in the song which you had no issues with, in the early parts and the end of the kiai, respectively.

@A Mystery : in order to remain consistent, one of the parts i had to change also applies to your map. it is at 02:08:075 (7) - . so you probably will need to get rid of these reverse sliders for some 1/2 rhythms.

samplefish

1,198 posts

Joined November 2010

samplefish 2014-11-07T10:19:16+00:00

its happening

A Mystery

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Joined April 2013

A Mystery 2014-11-07T15:43:09+00:00

Omg is this truly happening?

osu file format v13

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Title:Se-no!
TitleUnicode:せーのっ!
Artist:Jouhou Shoribu
ArtistUnicode:情報処理部
Creator:Setz206
Version:A Mystery's Hard
Source:YUYUSHIKI
Tags:ゆゆ式 opening OP nonohara yuzuko ichii yui hinata yukari ookubo rumi tsuda minami taneda risa A_Mystery Karia 大久保瑠美 津田美波 種田梨沙 seno
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Setz

1,419 posts

Joined August 2013

Topic Starter

Setz 2014-11-07T17:03:24+00:00

updated with A mystery's change

Lust

osu! Alumni

2,667 posts

Joined January 2013

Lust 2014-11-12T01:02:06+00:00

final log

19:37 Setz206: lust when do you think you'll bew rechecking my map? im not sure if i will be around much the later half of this week
19:37 Lust: ill do it now
19:38 Setz206: cool :D
19:42 Lust: 02:59:541 (9) - this is not in the music, while 02:59:713 (11) - is
19:42 *Lust is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/490546 Jouhou Shoribu - Se-no! [Insane]]
19:42 Lust: because of 02:59:541 (9) - being where it is, it caused me to get a 100 on the slider before it
19:43 Lust: you can listen to it back on 25% to confirm my suspicions
19:44 Lust: 03:04:713 (2) - same jazz here, the rest of the stream is in the music but this here caused me to get a 100 on 03:04:455 (1) - because i wasnt anticipating 03:04:713 (2) - and the start of the stream
19:45 Setz206: really? i hear the violin, or w/e that is , starting on the blue tick for the first one, and would be consistent with the end of the first kiai here 01:29:886 (9) -
19:45 Setz206: i know they are different sounds though
19:45 Setz206: the second one i can agree with
19:45 Lust: the reason i say this is because they are different sounds
19:45 Lust: there
19:45 Lust: you got it before me haha
19:45 Lust: 01:29:972 (9,10) - these two are more pronounced
19:45 Lust: and you tend to follow those similar sounds throughout the map
19:47 Lust: those are my only quips for the insane
19:47 Setz206: so should i remove  02:59:541 (9) -  and keep the triple after?
19:47 Lust: yea
19:48 Setz206: what do you suggest for the second one
19:50 Lust: what do you mean?
19:50 Lust: as in a pattern suggestion?
19:50 Setz206: for the second stream, yeah for the rhythm
19:50 Setz206: since the stream felt off
19:50 Setz206: 03:04:713 (2) -
19:53 Lust: http://puu.sh/cN8s4/7d1163cbaf.jpg
19:53 Lust: something like that maybe
19:54 Setz206: so this is just by removing 2?
19:54 Lust: http://puu.sh/cN8up/ec9a55ccc1.jpg
19:54 Lust: yeah
19:54 Lust: the blue tick right after 03:04:455 (1) - right?
19:55 Setz206: yea
19:55 Lust: yup
19:55 Setz206: alright
19:55 Setz206: a mystery is on, btw if you need to IRC mod with him
19:55 Setz206: i will cahnge this part
19:55 Setz206: change*
19:56 Lust: nah nothing to change in his diff, ill ask him if hes satisfied with everything though 
19:56 Setz206: ok
19:59 Setz206: he's fixing 1 spacing error otherwise all good
19:59 Lust: alright