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Yamanote Line - Yamanoted heaven [Yamanote Line x Second_hea

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Lust
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Zetera
Somebody TRAAAAAAINNNNNN!! sorry.


[Muzukashii]


|00:03:601 (10) - Nah, I don't think that you should put this note there, it's weird to be played. Not horrible or wrong, but still weird. Better Connect it with the following pattern by moving it 1 tick to the right.
|00:05:313 - This part feels as empty as it is. You might want to use a ddkdd-pattern together with 17-19.


[Oni]
|00:07:529 - What about "d kkd/d kdd"? (To fill this gap, I don't think it belongs here, works well in the Muzukashii though.)
|00:14:578 - I expected more notes from here on (like at 00:17:800 -). I know what you tried and it works, but this part is too easy for an Oni imo. (You don't need to use as many circles as you use later to maintain the transitional function.)

Yeah, just a tiny mod, there's not too much to fix in a 27-second-spread xD..

Besides: Are taiko-diffs unaffected of the 30s-rule? Otherwise this is unrankable in the first place.

Damn, if this is rankable, I should try to rank "SICK BIKE TRIX"
Asagi Mutsuki
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Joined February 2013
Asagi Mutsuki
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You need to make the taikos longer than 30 seconds in order to make this rankable. Maybe add spinners in the intro and the ending like the standard diffs? ;w;

taco mod here cos stefan forced me to ;w;

[ General]
  1. Fix that
  2. Why the hell isn't stefan in tags ;w; Oh yeah add "TheNutritiousGuy" and "TNG" too
  3. Disable Custom Combo Colors and Widescreen Support since they do nothing in taiko

[ Muzukashii]
  1. 00:03:601 - Well this might sound cool if you're mapping to the original song, but here the music is in 1/2 and not 3/4 for some reason so eh you might wanna move this to somewhere that fits the song better
  2. 00:11:758 - Delete this for consistency with 00:05:313 ?
  3. 00:17:800 (54,55) - Swap these for the pitch k, if you think the kkk doesn't play really well, you could change 00:17:398 to a don since it sounds nice :3
  4. 00:20:217 - rip headphone users
  5. 00:22:936 - Same as the first mod

[ Oni]
  1. 00:06:622 - Just a little suggestion based on feeling here, deleting this note would make the d k d k rhythm stronger owo

Feel free to use/reject any of the points above since its mostly just nitpick since the maps are pretty solid as they are now~ What can I say? It's a 30 second map after all ;w;
kd pls
Last edited by Asagi Mutsuki , edited 1 time in total.
Hanjamon
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Hanjamon
Hii short taiko mod :3

  • d=Don
    D=Big Don
    k=Katsu
    K=Big Katsu
[General]

  • All okay but, add ''Stefan'' and ''TheNutritiousGuy'' to the tags?
    Yamanote Line x Second_heaven, should not be Second heaven without _ ?
[Stefan's Taiko Muzukashii]

  • Checked all, nothing to say ;w;
[Stefan's Taiko Oni]

  • Same, for me is good ;w;
Orz, i can't find anything xD
Stefan
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Stefan
Hanjamon: Yes. @Lust: Could please add "stefan", "tng" and "thenutritiousguy" into the Tags? thanks
cdhsausageboy/Sala-: Noticed the issue and I've put a spinner at the end (also to be consistent with the rest of the mapset)

cdhsausageboy wrote:

[ General]
  1. Fix that
  2. Why the hell isn't stefan in tags ;w; Oh yeah add "TheNutritiousGuy" and "TNG" too
  3. Disable Custom Combo Colors and Widescreen Support since they do nothing in taiko Not sure if required but I do it anyways.

[ Muzukashii]
  1. 00:03:601 - Well this might sound cool if you're mapping to the original song, but here the music is in 1/2 and not 3/4 for some reason so eh you might wanna move this to somewhere that fits the song better Well.. got to agree here.
  2. 00:11:758 - Delete this for consistency with 00:05:313 ? Will think about it, I get your point but the vocals here are just too worth to be not mapped.
  3. 00:17:800 (54,55) - Swap these for the pitch k, if you think the kkk doesn't play really well, you could change 00:17:398 to a don since it sounds nice :3 yap
  4. 00:20:217 - rip headphone users DARRRARARAAR
  5. 00:22:936 - Same as the first mod what (changed)

[ Oni]
  1. 00:06:622 - Just a little suggestion based on feeling here, deleting this note would make the d k d k rhythm stronger owo There is the sound where ddkkd fits really cool sound-wise.

Feel free to use/reject any of the points above since its mostly just nitpick since the maps are pretty solid as they are now~ What can I say? It's a 30 second map after all ;w;
kd pls

Sala- wrote:

Somebody TRAAAAAAINNNNNN!! sorry. heh you wish that


[Muzukashii]


|00:03:601 (10) - Nah, I don't think that you should put this note there, it's weird to be played. Not horrible or wrong, but still weird. Better Connect it with the following pattern by moving it 1 tick to the right. #rekt by cdh already.
|00:05:313 - This part feels as empty as it is. You might want to use a ddkdd-pattern together with 17-19. Nope, a longer break doesn't really hurt here nor breaking flow.


[Oni]
|00:07:529 - What about "d kkd/d kdd"? (To fill this gap, I don't think it belongs here, works well in the Muzukashii though.) The gap has a good reason and I don't want to fill it out with anything, sorry. (Sorry, falls das fies klingt)
|00:14:578 - I expected more notes from here on (like at 00:17:800 -). I know what you tried and it works, but this part is too easy for an Oni imo. (You don't need to use as many circles as you use later to maintain the transitional function.) I hope this works now.

Yeah, just a tiny mod, there's not too much to fix in a 27-second-spread xD..

Besides: Are taiko-diffs unaffected of the 30s-rule? Otherwise this is unrankable in the first place.

Damn, if this is rankable, I should try to rank "SICK BIKE TRIX" YOU WISH THAT HMM
Love you guys, thanks
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Lust
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Lust
updated
qoot8123
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qoot8123
Taiko diffs are fine, just remember to remove widescreen support, because this song doesn't have SB
After fixing this ,i think i can iconed it :)
Lust
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Lust
removed on behalf of stefan
qoot8123
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qoot8123
okay. :)




good Luck o/
Lust
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Thank you qoot!
Oracle
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Oracle
we removed video in taiko diffs.

std diffs looks fine to me.

rebubbled.
Stefan
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Stefan

Oracle wrote:

we removed video in taiko diffs.
*sigh* I told myself several times to remove it orz

Thank you very much qoot & Oracle!
Flask
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Flask
[ktgster's Another]
  1. 00:19:412 (1,2,3) - Add whistle on both (1,3) and remove it from (2)? I know the sound at (2) is much high-pitch, but it sounds a bit empty during 00:18:606 - to 00:19:412 -
  2. 00:22:131 (6,7,8,9,10,1) - This could be more curved I think, for example (not good at doing these stuff perfectly, sorry :<)
  3. 00:22:634 (1,2) - Kind of empty between these two notes since there are full of 1/4s (or 1/8s) around here, the rhythm like this (something 1/2) won't connect the parts before here and the parts after here that immediately. Suggest you to change like this:
  4. 00:26:662 (5) - Add a new combo here to keep the combo consistency with 00:25:051 (1) - and 00:25:857 (1) - ?
[Hyper]
  1. 00:03:702 - Forget to add a soft-whistle here? I saw you add them on all the notes at second/forth white lines
  2. 00:08:536 - No hitsounds here? I think you should add a clap here or something like that, feels so empty
  3. 00:09:341 (6) - This would be kind of surprising to the players I think lol. Add a new combo here?
  4. 00:19:412 (1,2) - Personally think you can add whistles on 00:19:412 - / 00:19:814 - and remove it from 00:19:613 -. I know the sound at the end of slider (1) is much high-pitch, but that makes me feel empty if you only add whistle there.
  5. 00:24:245 (1,2) - This jump comes so suddenly, but I don't see any reason for that. It's kind of like if you want to place a jump there, and then you'll need to put another jump to make it reasonable, or the connection between those objects won't be that great. What I'll suggest you is remove that jump, or re-place a larger distance between 00:24:447 (2,3) -.
  6. 00:26:662 (5) - Add a new combo here? It seems like you add them twice in every 4 white lines, so you'll need one here, too.
[Maeglwn's Normal]
  1. 00:03:702 (2) - / 00:14:175 (4) - Forget the soft-whistle?
  2. 00:10:550 (2) - The music here makes me feel that you should add drum-finish here, just like what you did at both 00:08:938 - / 00:09:744 -. Soft-whistle isn't that strong enough to emphasize it.
  3. 00:22:231 - At least add a whistle or something here. Also, the whistle on 00:23:641 - is kinda unnecessary to me (cuz you didn't add it on 00:22:835 (2) - )
Next time, you can try to use some stronger custom hitsound to emphasize the music like this (like default normal-hitnormal). Whistles don't really fit with an energetic song like this. :<
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Thank you Flask! Applied everything

Got permission from Maeglwn to fix the mod for him (applied everything there as well)
ktgster
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Flask

Flask wrote:

[ktgster's Another]
  1. 00:19:412 (1,2,3) - Add whistle on both (1,3) and remove it from (2)? I know the sound at (2) is much high-pitch, but it sounds a bit empty during 00:18:606 - to 00:19:412 - added whistle on 3 instead of both
  2. 00:22:131 (6,7,8,9,10,1) - This could be more curved I think, for example (not good at doing these stuff perfectly, sorry :<) - that was pretty much intentional although its something really small. Adjusted
  3. 00:22:634 (1,2) - Kind of empty between these two notes since there are full of 1/4s (or 1/8s) around here, the rhythm like this (something 1/2) won't connect the parts before here and the parts after here that immediately. Suggest you to change like this: - tbh, this doesn't really put emphasize enough on the end of the slider. Maybe you'll hate this change, but used 2 circles instead for the most emphasize on each note
  4. 00:26:662 (5) - Add a new combo here to keep the combo consistency with 00:25:051 (1) - and 00:25:857 (1) - ? - fixed NCing in 2nd kiai

IT'S SHOWTIME
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Lust
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updated
Flask
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This might be a bug or something, but I don't see any differences between the new version of ktgster's diff and the old one (he changed something from my mod, so I think it shouldn't be that). Probably we need to summon ktgster to re-post the code again.

Others are fine o3o
Lust
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hmmm, thats strange

re-updated
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hype
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Gratz Lust!
Lust
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Thank you Flask and everyone!
Lach
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You guys are gay. Congrats.
Muya
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why no beatmania IIDX in the tags? ^_^
Lach
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Lach
Because Konami will sue
Shohei Ohtani
Shohei Ohtani
this got unqualified twice #LetsGoForNumber3
Fatfan Kolek
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Fatfan Kolek
pls fix ktgster's first spinner x___x

it just sounds terrible with the sudden 5% volume
NewRulerNA
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[General]
  1. [quote="Ranking Criteria":1337]The video's audio track must be removed from the video file. The audio track in video is not used in osu!, so removing it reduces that filesize of the beatmap.
  2. [quote="Ranking Criteria":1337]The minimum draining (play) time for a map is 30 seconds (but the recommended minimum is 45 seconds). If your map is shorter than that, then try looping the song with an audio editing program. This is so each map gives a high enough score, and also so people do not try and cut songs too short for no reason, thus stopping people from enjoying the song fully.taiko maps had no enough play time (00:01:688 - 00:30:690 - )
  3. last spinners did not follow the melody in standard difficulties. I think should be 00:29:885 - .
    I guess the map will not rank if you edit the audio data.


edit:
Beginner also did not have enough play time.
thanks Gamu
Stefan
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NewRulerNA wrote:

[quote="Ranking Criteria":1337]The video's audio track must be removed from the video file. The audio track in video is not used in osu!, so removing it reduces that filesize of the beatmap.
this unfortunately seems legit and needs to be fixed...

NewRulerNA wrote:

[quote="Ranking Criteria":1337]The minimum draining (play) time for a map is 30 seconds (but the recommended minimum is 45 seconds). If your map is shorter than that, then try looping the song with an audio editing program. This is so each map gives a high enough score, and also so people do not try and cut songs too short for no reason, thus stopping people from enjoying the song fully.
taiko maps had no enough play time (00:01:688 - 00:30:690 - )wait

NewRulerNA wrote:

last spinners did not follow the melody in standard difficulties. I think should be 00:29:885 - .
How does this makes any sense? If the spinners in Normal, Hyper and Another are shortended these Difficulties also become unrankable then - according to that what you wrote. In general I am honestly really unsure if we should stick to the rule and put quite unnecessary spinners at the begin of Beginner and the Taiko Difficulties (in both cases they fit extremly bad due playability) or if we just use common sense and say that's fine. Also..

and also so people do not try and cut songs too short for no reason, thus stopping people from enjoying the song fully.
This isn't something which affects to this map if the origin song is that short and there is no longer version outside. At least we can expect from the mapper he clearly looked out about this point.

Also I am not sure how to loop a MAD good without ruining flow. I had troubles in the past with https://osu.ppy.sh/s/60167 , I however had luck that LoliFlan extended me that somehow in a good file. Will care for this.
Frostmourne
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Have to disqualify this due to the ranking criteria stated above.

[quote="Ranking Criteria":1337]The video's audio track must be removed from the video file. The audio track in video is not used in osu!, so removing it reduces that filesize of the beatmap.This will never be broken in any circumstances.

[quote="Ranking Criteria":1337]The minimum draining (play) time for a map is 30 seconds (but the recommended minimum is 45 seconds). If your map is shorter than that, then try looping the song with an audio editing program. This is so each map gives a high enough score, and also so people do not try and cut songs too short for no reason, thus stopping people from enjoying the song fully.
This will be discussed if it can be an exception but it's a rule so there is no guarantee that this will be brought back to qualified section.

Also the last spinner ends on nothing when there is a beat to be mapped around 00:29:482 to 00:29:683
Kyouren
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Frostmourne wrote:

Have to disqualify this due to the ranking criteria stated above.

[quote="Ranking Criteria":1337]The video's audio track must be removed from the video file. The audio track in video is not used in osu!, so removing it reduces that filesize of the beatmap.
This will never be broken in any circumstances.

[quote="Ranking Criteria":1337]The minimum draining (play) time for a map is 30 seconds (but the recommended minimum is 45 seconds). If your map is shorter than that, then try looping the song with an audio editing program. This is so each map gives a high enough score, and also so people do not try and cut songs too short for no reason, thus stopping people from enjoying the song fully.
This will be discussed if it can be an exception (I hope).

Also the last spinner ends on nothing when there is a beat to be mapped around 00:29:482 to 00:29:683For Video Case: I agree because this audio is just 32 second and in this example map:
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/213835
In case, -NanoRIPE- send a video for Kyubey but Kyubey is reject

For play time: plz add spinner in 00:27:468 - 00:30:690 and change first spinner 00:00:077 - 00:01:285 or Lust, delete ktgster's diff

and Japanese title is: Yamanoted heaven【山手線× Second_heaven】(not add space 2 again)
and this map is not Beatmania IIDX song (because i can't searching this song is video games song/Beatmania IIDX), so no, this map is not Beatmania IIDX song.
69653863
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>3 seconds

also notes for BATs regarding future ranks: Check RC before ranking to avoid such cases like these. This map was rebubbled twice and reranked twice, aka 4 different BATs working but none of them actually noticed these issues
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gokugohan12468 wrote:

In case, -NanoRIPE- send a video for Kyubey but Kyubey is reject
hi
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Kyubey wrote:

gokugohan12468 wrote:

In case, -NanoRIPE- send a video for Kyubey but Kyubey is reject
hi
hai
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Frostmourne wrote:

Have to disqualify this due to the ranking criteria stated above.

[quote="Ranking Criteria":1337]The video's audio track must be removed from the video file. The audio track in video is not used in osu!, so removing it reduces that filesize of the beatmap.
This will never be broken in any circumstances.

[quote="Ranking Criteria":1337]The minimum draining (play) time for a map is 30 seconds (but the recommended minimum is 45 seconds). If your map is shorter than that, then try looping the song with an audio editing program. This is so each map gives a high enough score, and also so people do not try and cut songs too short for no reason, thus stopping people from enjoying the song fully.
This will be discussed if it can be an exception but it's a rule so there is no guarantee that this will be brought back to qualified section.

Also the last spinner ends on nothing when there is a beat to be mapped around 00:29:482 to 00:29:683the site doesn't note spinners in drain time, ingame the maps are 30 seconds long

audio in video part should be an easy enough fix I guess

still really irritating to see this once again unranked for stuff that should've been seen before it got bubbled
Oracle
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NewRulerNA wrote:

[General]
  1. [quote="Ranking Criteria":1337]The video's audio track must be removed from the video file. The audio track in video is not used in osu!, so removing it reduces that filesize of the beatmap.
[quote="Ranking Criteria":1337]The minimum draining (play) time for a map is 30 seconds (but the recommended minimum is 45 seconds). If your map is shorter than that, then try looping the song with an audio editing program. This is so each map gives a high enough score, and also so people do not try and cut songs too short for no reason, thus stopping people from enjoying the song fully.taiko maps had no enough play time (00:01:688 - 00:30:690 - )last spinners did not follow the melody in standard difficulties. I think should be 00:29:885 - .
I guess the map will not rank if you edit the audio data.

edit:
Beginner also did not have enough play time.
thanks GamuLooks like i should really check things detailedly no matter how many times it got ranked before. The existing audio track was my bad, sorry!

Beginner diff did have enough play time before the unrankings. While things changed due to notes being too soon after spinner. I really don't see the point of stating this. Should I directly tell the mapper "Hey your map is not long enough! delete it!"? I think that's going against my own policy to mappers. They took time to create things and gather mods. Every ranked map is the combination of efforts from multiple people. I made my choice here, I think this should be the better way for players and the ones who contributed to the set.

As the statement in RC: "This is so each map gives a high enough score, and also so people do not try and cut songs too short for no reason, thus stopping people from enjoying the song fully. "
The highest diff has over 1m score in total with 2 spinners to vary the scores. And the audio is absolutely the same one from its original source, NicoNicoDouga. It's not a cut version and we're enjoying the song fully. I have no idea why we should have the purpose reversed. You are preventing players from enjoying the song. I don't see any huge difference between this and "stopping people from enjoying the song fully" from RC. I consider the first one being worse tho.

Just my 2 cents~ Might be helpful in judging the case here. I appreciate your checking NewRulerNA! :)
Good luck on getting this one back (or nuked)~
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Irreversible wrote:

Feel my pain...


Oracle wrote:

As the statement in RC: "This is so each map gives a high enough score, and also so people do not try and cut songs too short for no reason, thus stopping people from enjoying the song fully. "
The highest diff has over 1m score in total with 2 spinners to vary the scores. And the audio is absolutely the same one from its original source, NicoNicoDouga. It's not a cut version and we're enjoying the song fully. I have no idea why we should have the purpose reversed. You are preventing players from enjoying the song. I don't see any huge difference between this and "stopping people from enjoying the song fully" from RC. I consider the first one being worse tho.
I absolutely agree with this in every aspect. I personally think this rule has been set in the past to prevent people being lazyasses and choose to map like 10% of a song just to get them asap ranked which is of course wrong. But cases like pupa or this song shows that this rule can't always work. I think a rewording of this rule should be done because "This is so each map gives a high enough score, and also so people do not try and cut songs too short for no reason, thus stopping people from enjoying the song fully" cannot work to 100% for every Beatmap.
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