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HAMO - COSMO

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Rirakusu
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Friday, September 05, 2014 at 5:39:57 PM

Artist: HAMO
Title: COSMO
Source: Cytus
Tags: cytus, vocaloid, hatsune miku, hamo, light, pop, japanese
BPM: 212
Filesize: 3040kb
Play Time: 02:17
Difficulties Available:
  1. Easy (1.25 stars, 94 notes)
  2. Hard (2.59 stars, 210 notes)
  3. Insane (4.32 stars, 280 notes)
  4. Normal (1.85 stars, 148 notes)
Download: HAMO - COSMO
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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My first map for ranked and approval. Welcome for mods!
Update - Performing the final fixes...(added hitsounds and fixed some awkward shapped sliders)
Note: Ready for approval :D
HootOwlStar
Well, just giving a suggestion, the song and map is nice, but maybe you can do some improvements in it if you want lol :D
So... I don't know how to do time tag, and just mentioning the time, but maybe it will work! Hope you don't mind...

Beginning
00:06:792 (3) Maybe making a new combo is better?
00:15:849 (1) Maybe the spinner should only be until 00:19:245 but not 00:19:528...
00:22:358 (1) I don't think new combo is needed here as there is no new combo after that...
00:24:622 (2) Now, I think this needs a new combo to make it more beautiful~
00:33:649 (3) Still the same, new combo is better, I think...
00:38:490 (6) If you don't want to change the previous notes, this note should be changed into a new combo...
00:40:754 (1) I really don't think this needs a new combo, actually...
00:41:886 (2) If you want the 00:40:754 (1) note to be a new combo, well, this needs a new combo too...
00:44:150 (1) Well, in this case, this new combo seems legit~
00:45:849 (3) You should put a new combo here...
01:35:377 (1) Maybe the new combo was not needed?

Well, still a great map :oops: You can ignore my suggestions because it is only the new combo problems. Hope your maps get ranked soon :)
Topic Starter
Rirakusu
I see you put in quite an effort searching for glitches...which is a nice thing for me so I can edit my map to make it better :P

Okay, after looking all your suggestions...

1. Well, that's no need for a new combo. The combo is not too long, and that's still the same part of the music. (I used a different hitsound for that note)
2. That's right :) I don't see it at first (even when I'm playing...awww earphones don't help much)
3. Oh yeah, I forgot to turn off the new combo option when drawing this...thanks for reminding.
4. After trying...I couldn't deny that your suggestion is true :P Fixed.
5. Same as 4...xD
6. Erm...now I'm wondering what I'm doing while drawing these notes and I forgot it...added and it's more better now :)
7. This...okay. Because if I don't use a new combo the combo will be rather long and I don't really think it's nice...so this suggestion is in my checklist (that's not yet checked)
8. Perfect idea man. Suggestion 7 solved.
9. That seems another part of the music, so...status is the same as suggestion 7.
10. Bingo. Placing note 00:44:150 as a new combo and 00:45:849 as a new combo completely solved the problem. Another genius idea :D
11. Reminded me of an error again lol. This new combo is really not needed and yes I removed it.

Thanks for your suggestion, Kudosu given!
HootOwlStar
Well, I am back again lol this time I am going to talk about the timing points and offsets~
Offset
Well, since you changed into 44, then I hv no words to say, and it is also in my guess lol
Timing Points
Well, there is a lot of timing points that should be listed out in this song but you don't so I will list them out for you ;)
(Well, about the Kiai time, you looked for your own for the timing points :D )
00:02:308 This timing point... well, you can make Kiai time if you want until 00:20:421
00:53:251 From this timing point, the time signature should be 5/4
00:54:666 From this timing point, the time signature should be changed to 3/4
01:21:836 From this timing point, the time signature should be changed to 4/4
01:37:685 From this timing point, the time signature should be changed to 3/4 until the end
That's all. Really hope your map will be ranked soon :) (I will be right back when all of your diffs are completed :D )
Topic Starter
Rirakusu
Great - this helped a lot! Will mention it in the credits :D
theramdans
Hello I made the timing check posted here. So here we go


As for difficulty settings and SV for each difficulty, I recommend these

Easy: HP 2 CS 3 AR 3 OD 2 ,SV : more than 0.6 less than 1.0
Normal : HP 4 CS 3 AR 5 OD 4, SV: more than 1.0 less than 1.3
Hard : HP 5 CS 4 AR 8 OD 6, SV: more than 1.3 less than 1/7
Insane : HP 6 CS 4 AR 9 OD 7, SV: above 1.7

Attention: This is just an opinion :D

We will discuss it more later
Topic Starter
Rirakusu
Thanks theramdans, your suggestions for SV and difficulty settings helped quite much, especially the AR setting! but the CS is not going to change...CS 3 for all diffs!
guineaQ
Scratches his head*

Here it goes

No color code thix time

[General]
Not sure about the diff names

Timing point at 00:53 is redundant, delete it.
AR 4? wut? AR 3 for easy-ish diffs at max please.
HP 2, OD 2.
HP 2 won't even hurt a fly and HP 1 won't even be able to hurt a microbe.
OD 2 since it's not necessary to give free accuracy.

[Beginning]
00:00:611 (1) - Change this into a spinner + hitsound is kinda too loud
Try this


Where the first timing point has audio of 5%
2nd - 20%
3rd - 5% (since the sound dies)
4th - back to 40%
00:02:309 (1) - clap hitsound doesn't really fit
00:04:573 (2) - ^^
00:06:837 (3) - You can make this slider 1337 times more interesting.
00:15:894 (1) - It's not a bad idea to put a spinner right after a break, but the spinner itself doesn't really fit to anything in the song.
It's not like there is one big long guitar strum, or vocal, or anything that's stretched long enough to make a sensible spinner, even for an easy diff.
The break behind the spinner doesn't really make a whole lot sense to me as well.
00:20:139 (1) - Add a circle note 2 white ticks later. The circle fits to the clap sound at that point.
00:22:403 (3) - ^^ same
00:24:101 (1) - I would add a slider, 1 white tick long to make it like this
00:27:780 (5) - add circle here
00:28:346 (6) - ^^
00:28:912 (7) - ^^
00:30:044 (2) - Circle here, same problem as 00:20:139 (1) -
00:31:460 (3) - ^^
00:33:158 (4) - Slider here, same as 00:24:101 (1) -
00:34:573 (2) - Circle here
00:36:837 (5) - ^^
00:37:969 (6) - ^^
00:40:799 (1) - In easy, I would avoid reversing more than twice.
00:44:195 (1) - ^^
00:48:724 (1) - Why...is this here?
01:01:458 (1) - I disapprove of horseshoe sliders D: and don't put clap hitsounds on red ticks when it doesn't fit the music
01:10:231 (3) - mhm, too much reverse
01:17:024 (3) - ^^
01:24:075 (1) - This takes up space were you could put way more interesting patterns instead of single, one long slider.
01:29:452 (1,2,3,4) - I tried real hard to figure out what this circles were mapping to, I couldn't figure out :(
01:33:131 (1) - Same as 01:24:075 (1) -
01:50:137 (1) - Break before could have been replaced with patterns since there are things to map to!
01:51:835 (2,1) - poor overlap
01:56:930 (1) - same as 01:24:075 (1) -
02:07:401 (1) - Spinner inside the kiai time is just big no in my book.
02:10:798 (1) - same as 01:24:075 (1) -

Overall summary
-You could have done much more with the song to make interesting patterns even for an easy difficulty, I would recommend using 1.0x or 1.5x distance snap and map to BASS, not guitar. If you attempt to map to guitar and vocal like you did here mostly, you will end up with hard or insane difficulty if done right, so save that for hard and insane and try to map to snares, drum kicks, short vocals like 00:22:403 (3) - and claps that can be easily hitsounded.

Opinion about mapping to vocals from another mapper which I think is mostly true ESPECIALLY for easier difficulties


I thought this could help you because of the spinner I saw at 00:48:724 (1) -

gl, the song is nice, and it's not always easy at first but you will get better =w=)b
I'm a horrible mapper
theramdans
Well m4m, I mod first!

[EASY]
Umm, maybe resnap everything to DS 1.0, 0.8 is too shallow
00:04:007 - add a note here (drum sound)
00:06:837 (1) - whoa this HUGE slider \o/, better change flow to something like http://puu.sh/9QMsl/ab2c2b9c39.png
00:26:648 (2) - this fits! but, if you want an alternative, change this to 1/1 repeat slider
00:35:705 (3) - same^
00:38:535 - 00:41:648 - doesnt feel right.. try this http://puu.sh/9QMTW/de1b1ff40c.png
00:41:931 - 00:45:894 - same ^ try this.. http://puu.sh/9QN2k/6ca0438fc2.png
00:59:760 (3,4) - replace this 2/1 slider
01:01:458 (1) - wow another huge slider, replace with 4 sliders (each 2/1 slider) like this http://puu.sh/9QNeX/cebdde3e12.png
01:08:533 (1) - move 1 beat earlier, and repeat once
01:11:081 (4) - reduce length, so it will become 1/1 repeat slider and the following , this http://puu.sh/9QNxK/fd9b3b1a00.png
01:17:873 (4) - exactly the same thing^
01:24:075 - in this section, change the 2 huge sliders into the patterns somewhat that looks like Ive been suggesting you so far
01:50:420 - this 4 sliders. First, shorten them by 1 beat ,then place them 1 beat later than their original position on the time line (This way, they fit the lyrics) - And also. for the following huge sliders after them, you know what to do :P
02:04:854 - in this section, you would like to remove the spinner and the last huge sliders, then change them into the better patterns like Ive been showing you so far

[NORMAL]
00:02:309 (1,2)- shorten slider by 1 beat, place it on the timeline 1 beat later. And, I recommend to remove the following huge sliders then make another short patterns
00:37:120 - 00:40:516 better if you make smth like this http://puu.sh/9QOrn/eb126caf54.png
00:42:780 (4,5,6) - replace this with 1/1 repeating slider
00:44:195 (1) - shorten by 2 repeats
00:45:044 - 00:47:309 try this! http://puu.sh/9QOLm/20a0dcc3d6.jpg
00:48:724 (1) - lengthen by 1 beat and then reduce repeat by 1
00:54:384 (1,2,3,4) - same issue with Easy diff at 01:50:420
01:01:316 (1) - place a beat later, shorten by 1 repeat, and add a note here. It will look like this http://puu.sh/9QPhn/b5bff8304a.png
01:03:156 (6) - too many repeats, reduce to 1 repeat and add another pattern to fill the empty space afterwards
01:24:075 (1-8) - these are OK, but it would be better if you use 1 repeat slider and circle as well, not just 1/1 slider spam like this
01:50:137 (1,2,3,4) - same issue with 00:54:384 (1,2,3,4)
01:57:071 (1) - move 1 beat later on the timeline. And, remove that huge slider also, change with patterns like 1 repeating slider and then circles, just combine them
02:03:722 (1,2) - same issue with 01:50:137 (1,2,3,4
02:12:496 (6) - remove slider and change with other patterns, just combine slider and circles

OK! I m done for now,, will mod more diff later

Waiting or your mod reply on my map :D
KUURAhoshi
Hello jinhang_ang !
I already check your beatmap, and i think..
You must add this to the tags :
Chapter III 3

About your NOTECHART,
I only mod Hard & Insane
Hard & Insane :
You must add the note on the ending,
From 02:17:873until 02:31:104

Yeah, i think only that..
Topic Starter
Rirakusu

Kazamastar11 wrote:

Hello jinhang_ang !
I already check your beatmap, and i think..
You must add this to the tags :
Chapter III 3

About your NOTECHART,
I only mod Hard & Insane
Hard & Insane :
You must add the note on the ending,
From 02:17:873until 02:31:104

Yeah, i think only that..
Thanks for that suggestion...but don't you think it's better to keep all the diffs' playtime the same?
[ - 5Ms - ]
Insane

1.第一个滑条可以从00:00:611 (1)提前到00:00:045 (1),结束在00:02:026 (1) -,音量降到30%

2.00:02:309 (1,2) -做成标准的滑条(尾端的白点在circle的中心)

3.00:09:667 (2) - 的折返可以做成这样的00:09:667 (2,3) - :
SPOILER

(note 3在2的滑条下面)
4.00:05:139 (2) - 的滑条可以做成这样的:

5.00:27:497 (7,8) - 把这两个删掉(押歌词)

6.00:31:035 (2) -这个滑条弄好。。。。

7.00:42:214 (3) - 这个滑条换成两个note,与前面的相同节奏的铺面一致

8.00:36:271 (4) - 这个滑条弄成这个样子:

9.00:48:724 (3) - 改成这样的00:48:724 (3,4) - :

10.01:20:420 (1) - 把这个滑条改好,然后头部与01:19:571 (2) - 的尾巴对齐

11.02:05:137 (1,2) - 这两个的(1)把new combo去掉,然后把(2)加上,把02:05:491 (1) - 的new combo去掉

12.好吧我水平很渣就这些了(⊙o⊙)…
其实还有些地方感觉不对劲但是改不出来~\(≧▽≦)/~。。。。。
KUURAhoshi

jinhang_ang wrote:

Kazamastar11 wrote:

Hello jinhang_ang !
I already check your beatmap, and i think..
You must add this to the tags :
Chapter III 3

About your NOTECHART,
I only mod Hard & Insane
Hard & Insane :
You must add the note on the ending,
From 02:17:873until 02:31:104

Yeah, i think only that..
Thanks for that suggestion...but don't you think it's better to keep all the diffs' playtime the same?
You're right :) , well it's up to you :)
Iceskulls
Here a star for you ;)
Topic Starter
Rirakusu

CelsiusLK wrote:

Here a star for you ;)
Thanks :D I never expected for that. If you have any maps that requires modding be sure to tell me - I promise to help you! :)
5eania
for m4m

[General]
Delete all timing point (except fisrt).
offset +15 (60)


[Insane]
00:54:384 (1) - stack to 00:54:526 (1) -

[Hard]
recommend OD 6
00:57:496 (4) - need more spacing
02:03:722 (1,2,3,4) - change to 1/4 repeat slider
02:22:543 (5) - x244 y108

[Easy]
00:02:309 (1) - nc off
00:20:988 (1) - ^
00:23:252 (1) - ^
00:30:044 (1) - ^
00:32:309 (1) - ^
01:08:250 (1) - remove repeat, and move to 01:08:533
Topic Starter
Rirakusu

5eania wrote:

for m4m

[General]
Delete all timing point (except fisrt). Hmm? I don't see the point of doing that. It's really like that.
offset +15 (60)Really fits. Fixed.


[Insane]
00:54:384 (1) - stack to 00:54:526 (1) - Used to make it visible that there's a 1/4 beat spacing before the next note. Not changed currently.

[Hard]
recommend OD 6 Fixed.
00:57:496 (4) - need more spacing Fixed.
02:03:722 (1,2,3,4) - change to 1/4 repeat slider Fixed.
02:22:543 (5) - x244 y108 Well I don't really plan to map that part, just forgot to remove it.

[Easy]
00:02:309 (1) - nc off
00:20:988 (1) - ^
00:23:252 (1) - ^
00:30:044 (1) - ^
00:32:309 (1) - ^
01:08:250 (1) - remove repeat, and move to 01:08:533
All fixed!


Thanks for mod! Will mod your map when it's your turn (sorry, in my queue, M4M doesn't give any improve in priority).
theramdans
further quick modding~

-EASY-
00:03:456 (2,3) - swap hitsounds (slider's tail with circle)
00:05:720 (4,5) - same^
00:06:852 (1) - this slider. Head : finish, repeat : clap, Tail : none
00:09:116 (3) - this slider, clap on the tail instead of the head
00:10:248 (4) - this slider, Head : finish, repeat : whistle, Tail : whistle
00:20:154 (1,2) - (1) whistle on head, clap on tail. (2) whistle
00:22:418 (1,2) - same^
00:24:682 (1,2) - same^
00:29:210 (1) to 00:32:324 (2) - same^
00:34:588 - why leave this emtpy? so lonely lol put a circle here or slider that ends on 00:35:154 (2)
00:38:267 (1,2,3,4) - you may want to replace some claps with whistles on 1's head and 3. Same for 00:42:512 (1,2,3) and 00:45:909 (1,2,3)
00:42:512 (1,1) - uglyyyyyyyyyyyyy overlap , I recommend changing this, and why with the new combo?
00:54:666 (1) to 01:00:609 (4) - in this section, the finishes are on every 2 white ticks which are 00:54:666,00:56:364,00:58:062,and 00:59:760
01:01:458 (1) - maybe whistle
01:03:156 (2) - maybe whistle on the head. Clap on the tail
01:05:703 (1) - clap
01:08:250 to 01:20:986 - im not sure about this section .___.
im not sure about the kiais also hueee. Maybe you can fix it yourself

-NORMAL-
00:04:588 (2) - awkward, end it at 00:05:720
same hitsounding mod like on -EASY- up there, use it as a guide
01:08:533 to 01:20:986 - I prefer the section on this diff :D
Maybe we can di irc mod for hitsounding check on kiais, too long and I a lazy to put it here

-HARD-
Wow at least this diff flows better than the previous two gg
Umm you could improve those 1/2 slider's shape to be more curve rather than linear imo
00:54:666 (2) - awkward shape :(
00:59:194 (2) - delete this
00:57:779 (1) - start this slider at 00:58:062 instead. End it at 00:58:911. For the shape , I recommend reshaping it since it is awkward and ugly
01:03:156 (1) - this one too, too big,long, and awkward
01:14:477 (1) - awkawrd too :(
01:24:075 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - replace with some sliders pleaaaaase :)
01:53:534 (1) - start it 1 beat later
01:58:911 (5) - awkward to play with 2 repeats :(
02:03:722 (1) - overmapping :D
02:05:420 (1) - start it 1 beat later
02:07:401 (2) - another long and big slider
02:12:496 (6) - awkward with 2 repeats :(

ok im done here , so many you have to fix.
and i sorry i cant give an advices to improves your sliders, aybe we can do it irc some other time~
Btw nice improvements on the Easy diff, keep it up!
Sky Trias
Hey ~ Here's my mod :)

[Easy]
01:37:968 - add Spinner until 01:40:798

02:15:609 - add a note

02:15:609 (1) - put this Spinner to 02:15:892 until 02:17:590

02:17:732 - double Spinner ? until 02:20:986

[Normal]
00:26:663 (2,4) - Ctrl + G

01:21:269 - add Spinner to 01:23:533 ?

01:28:603 (1) - Remove NC

01:57:071 (1,2) - Weird .. make like this http://puu.sh/bdNT8/9d35c3ce60.png
and the slider like this http://puu.sh/bdNWK/e201383559.png

02:15:609 - add a note

02:15:609 (1) - put this Spinner to 02:15:892 until 02:17:590

[Hard]
00:57:779 - Add a note at 00:58:062 (1) place ?

00:59:194 - Add a note ?

[Insane]
00:31:050 (2) - Move this Slider to 00:31:192

01:37:659 - Add a note

01:37:376 (6) - Change to slider until 01:37:518

01:37:826 - Add Spinner until 01:40:798

I hope this help you :D , Good Luck :)
Topic Starter
Rirakusu

Sky Trias wrote:

Hey ~ Here's my mod :)

[Easy]
01:37:968 - add Spinner until 01:40:798 Hmm? I don't see the point of doing that.

02:15:609 - add a note Added :)

02:15:609 (1) - put this Spinner to 02:15:892 until 02:17:590 Changed it (since the spinner is still long enough for 8000 points)

02:17:732 - double Spinner ? until 02:20:986 I don't see the point of double spinners in Easy :P

[Normal]
00:26:663 (2,4) - Ctrl + G Fixed. Helps with the flow :D thanks.

01:21:269 - add Spinner to 01:23:533 ? Feels better now :)

01:28:603 (1) - Remove NC Thanks for the reminder, and removed more unnecessary NCs in all diffs.

01:57:071 (1,2) - Weird .. make like this http://puu.sh/bdNT8/9d35c3ce60.png
and the slider like this http://puu.sh/bdNWK/e201383559.png I think the current one is fine. I'm mapping to the vocal.

02:15:609 - add a note Added.

02:15:609 (1) - put this Spinner to 02:15:892 until 02:17:590 Same as easy :)

[Hard]
00:57:779 - Add a note at 00:58:062 (1) place ? Forms a jump, but I think it's okay :)

00:59:194 - Add a note ? Added.

[Insane]
00:31:050 (2) - Move this Slider to 00:31:192 Not necessary as I'm mapping to the guitar for this slider.

01:37:659 - Add a note Added ( I think?)

01:37:376 (6) - Change to slider until 01:37:518 Fixed.

01:37:826 - Add Spinner until 01:40:798 Not changed currently, as I'm trying to make the drain time of all diffs the same, or as close as possible.

I hope this help you :D , Good Luck :)
Thanks for mod!
Sky Trias
thanks for the kudosu :D

short modding :)

  • [Normal]
  1. 00:54:666 (1) - Remove NC :oops:
okay just that :p
GL okay :)
Topic Starter
Rirakusu

Sky Trias wrote:

thanks for the kudosu :D

short modding :)

  • [Normal]
  1. 00:54:666 (1) - Remove NC :oops:
okay just that :p
GL okay :)
Lol extending the previous mod. Won't give kudos for this time (since there are no remapping and new diffs added) but I will fix this for sure. Thanks!
Topic Starter
Rirakusu
Uh I think this will be graved soon - but I will resurrect it if it does.

So your mods are still needed! Let's rank this map :)
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