20:26 *ProfessionalBox is listening to [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/501107 Pendulum - Propane Nightmares (Celldweller Remix)]
20:27 ProfessionalBox: pls
20:38 *HandHeldPillow is playing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/501107 Pendulum - Propane Nightmares (Celldweller Remix) [Heaven's Gate]]
20:42 HandHeldPillow: LOL
20:43 ProfessionalBox: xD
20:44 ProfessionalBox: Hitsoudning is pretty much all over the place so
20:44 ProfessionalBox: dont mod hitsounds xD
20:44 HandHeldPillow: kk
20:44 HandHeldPillow: 00:13:078 (5,6,7) - is confusing to read
20:44 HandHeldPillow: it throw off sightreading soo bad
20:46 ProfessionalBox: mm i can see that
20:47 HandHeldPillow: maybe use non-white combo's as it blends to the background too much
20:48 HandHeldPillow: 01:29:285 (7,1,2,3) - throws off flow a bit and it jsut confusing for sight reading again
20:49 HandHeldPillow: 01:35:319 (5,6) - just evil, keep it tho >:
20:49 HandHeldPillow: D
20:49 ProfessionalBox: xD
20:50 HandHeldPillow: 01:42:044 (2) - move to x:364 y:48
20:51 HandHeldPillow: your sliders are so smooth
20:51 HandHeldPillow: i love it
20:51 HandHeldPillow: streams* not sliders
20:51 ProfessionalBox: so my sliders suck
20:51 ProfessionalBox: ok
20:51 ProfessionalBox: ;__;
20:51 HandHeldPillow: yes
20:51 *ProfessionalBox dies
20:52 HandHeldPillow: nah they are fine
20:52 *ProfessionalBox magically comes back to life
20:52 HandHeldPillow: http://pillow.s-ul.eu/9Zm9tuNX is this a boomarang?
20:53 HandHeldPillow: trying to win over the aussy's i see
20:53 HandHeldPillow: illuminati
20:53 ProfessionalBox: LOL
20:53 ProfessionalBox: Im sorry but
20:53 ProfessionalBox: now that you know the truth
20:53 ProfessionalBox: I cant let you live
20:54 HandHeldPillow: 02:37:044 (1,2,3,4) -  more spacing inbetween these please, makes for fun jumps
20:54 HandHeldPillow: 02:41:699 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4) - the flow is dropped here D:
20:54 ProfessionalBox: btw if I dont say anything im making changes
20:55 ProfessionalBox: I think it flows fine ?
20:55 ProfessionalBox: Ill look further into that
20:55 HandHeldPillow: alright
20:56 HandHeldPillow: 02:41:699 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4) - move like http://pillow.s-ul.eu/59RdNgNd so it's closer and a bit more appealing to the eyes
20:58 HandHeldPillow: 04:17:733 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) -  
20:58 HandHeldPillow: i love this
20:59 ProfessionalBox: are you a masochist?
20:59 ProfessionalBox: Like, you failed there and you loved it
20:59 ProfessionalBox: xD
20:59 HandHeldPillow: yes
21:00 ProfessionalBox: kappa
21:00 HandHeldPillow: anyway's there's your mod
21:00 HandHeldPillow: i'm gay

Yuzu- wrote:

Insomnia

kd for diff name lulz xD


General stuff~


I would advise that you disable both Letterbox in breaks and Widescreen Support. As far as I can tell you're not using any kind of storyboard so both of them aren't needed. Sure why not

That's pretty much it for general stuff.

Now, to the map itself~i'll be nazi hue I eat nazis for breakfast

00:01:699 (3) - move your tail point to (40|196). Blankets are beautiful~ Yes sir
00:03:595 (4) - You might want to consider adding some spacing to this note, since it's obviously highlighted by the vocals. How about you tried something like this? The example below emphasizes the vocal start which is fairly strong, and it keeps the spacing on 00:03:595 (4,5) with spacing on 00:03:768 (5,1) having pretty much no change. Feels good
00:04:285 (2) - This is just a personal preference but I'd go for a 1/2 slider on this one. I feel like this is the only slider in the section that completely follows the vocals and ignores the tick on 00:04:457. 00:06:009 (3) does it too but this one looks great even though it ignores the red tick because it follows the lyrics. But since it doesn't end where the lyrics does, I'd advise to place a circle at 00:06:526 and stack because since the slider doesn't follow the lyrics perfectly this circle allows for a player to enter the song's beat as rhythm again. I hope that was clear enough c: Regarding 00:04:285 (2), maybe you'd want to add a circle at 00:04:544 and cut off the slider to 1/2. It fills the vocal that you intended to cover with the long slider and it fills up the red tick. Something like this:

Or just stack it, your choice~ I like it as it is now, plays well
00:14:975 (1,2,3,4) - How about you try something like this? It kind of uses that small stream you have there to blanket 00:14:975 (1) and then 00:15:492 (4) is stacked with the tail of 00:14:630 (7). Looks neat to me~ Sure
00:16:009 (6,1) - I think you could improve your spacing increase usage here. I'd personally focus the spacing increase between 00:16:009 (6,1) even though they're 1/4 apart. It's playable because of the emphasis on the song, and while 00:15:664 (5,6) isn't necessarily wrong the attention gets a bit taken away here. 00:16:354 (1) being stacked is to me something you should avoid in such a strong note, try something like this: Did changes
00:19:802 (3,1) - fix this stack real fast, minor thing~ Stupid nazis
00:26:699 (4) - no wiggly ;w; Wigglyness applied :3
00:32:044 (3,4,5,6,7) - This set of circles is very random, I'd personally revert back to the slider pattern-like rhythm you were using, because consistency~ Yup, changed
00:35:319 (6,7,8,9) - Okay, you've been using a couple triples before, and they sound lovely, but this stream here is a bit random imo. It has no support whatsoever on the song and it doesn't feel like one should be here in the first place. I'd advise to remove 00:35:578 (9) and make it a triple again. But if you mean to keep the feeling of stream movement, you can have the triple like this:

It fits great because of the NC on 1 and strong beat on it, which makes it perfectly readable imo. Give it a try~ Changed
00:36:354 (3,4,5) - I'd prefer if you tried to fit 00:36:613 (4,5) in the rhythm before 00:36:354 (3), because you have a stream/triple before 00:35:664 (1) which brings more consistency into play, making it sound great~ Did some changes here, not sure if it is anything like you meant though xD
00:47:906 (1) - In terms of rhythm, this slider is a bit wrong because 00:48:078 is such a strong beat and covering it with a slidertail (which are called passive sliders, just to make sure you know what I mean next time I mention those) doesn't help, it should be clickable. I'd advise you to use a rhythm similar to the one I'm about to show you, it's probably the one that sounds best in this section: I have these passive slider parts put in some parts because of wanting to mix up the playability of some parts, Some of them play well but this one for example I have changed
00:53:250 (6,1,2,3) - ^Same applies to this section~
01:14:285 (1,2) - This thing needs a ctrl + g in rhythm, passive stuff.
02:05:319 (1,2) - ^
02:13:595 (1,2) - ^, I'd just advise you to check your whole difficulty for this kind of stuff c: Changed some of these, mainly those which were really unfitting
02:22:561 (4) - This needs to be a bit more rotated counter-clockwise, just to make cursor movement a bit less tight~ Sure
02:29:457 (5) - In order to improve flow a bit you should ctrl+g this, as well as 02:29:975 (7) and move 02:29:802 (6) over to somewhere like (200|240) This is great, applied!
02:33:250 (2) - In my opinion, this is a bad stack, forcing it makes 02:33:250 (2,3) a very harsh flow break. Maybe you should consider something like this:
Stacking 02:32:906 (1) instead should do the trick~ Works for me
02:47:044 (2,3) - Swapping these two with ctrl + G makes this whole section flow a bit better, so please do~ This actually makes no sense imo, completely breaks the flow :s
03:06:182 (2,3) - This pattern should actually start on 03:06:009, because of the sound it has, I'd advise you to To what xD? Kept it the same for now

Inyuschan wrote:

DnB <3 <3

General:

Seems clean for me. :o

Insomnia:

Maybe is OD too high? I would change it to OD:7. The diff itself is considered as an extra so that is why I want to have a high od
00:39:544 (7) - I've listened so many times with 25% playback rate and I'm almost sure this is overmapped. Just put a simple note on 00:39:457 - o3o Done
00:39:716 (8) - Same. This im going to keep
00:58:940 (6, 1) - You've been adding NC in this type of sliders (which start on red tick and finish on stanza). So, I'd consider adding NC here. I want the stream to begin the NC since it looks better and makes more sense in this situation
01:02:561 (5, 7) - What do you think about adding finish in these notes? Sounds good for me. Awesome
01:11:182 (1) - Why this NC here. Removed
01:14:285 (1) - Just a suggestion, but I'd add finish here too. Music increases a bit, so, will fit ok imo. Moved the finish from spinner to here
01:31:871 (8) - What about curving this slider a bit? Would make a nice blanket (or, at least, a try of it. I'm not good with blankets...) with (2). Tried something
02:03:078 (1) - Unnecessary NC. You did a similar pattern in 02:00:319 (3) - and you didn't add NC there, just in 02:00:837 (1). So, same here. Btw, was just a suggestion too; I'd do it in all cases. Fixed
02:26:009 (8, 1) - Fix this stack. Move (1) to x:275 y:114. Fixed
02:29:975 (7) - Inconsistency of NCs. You should add one here and remove this one: 02:30:837 (1). Fixed
02:35:664 (8) - Same, and remove this one: 02:36:182 (1). Fixed
02:38:423 (5) - Same, and remove this one: 02:38:940 (1) - (do it in all cases, I won't repeat it anymore). Did it in all cases I believe
02:57:906 (1) - Is it me or there is no music here? I dont want this part to slow down since it is supposed to be fast and fun
02:58:164 (2) - Same. Same here
03:20:837 (1) - Remove this NC and add it on (5). Fixed
04:56:009 (1) - Remove this NC and add it on (2). Fixed
04:56:526 (1) - Remove this NC. Fixed
05:20:664 (1) - Same as 04:56:009 (1). This I will keep since I want the patterns to be seperated by NC to make it clearer

Midge wrote:

DUDE HUUUUGE AIRSHOT LATER DOG whaa..?

[Insomnia]
first run and replay


00:09:716 (2,3) - have this continue downwards http://puu.sh/bUGzU/84b0a7df6a.jpg Sure
02:17:388 (6,1) - this'd be cool, since it's like what you had for the other ones like this http://puu.sh/bUKAD/8aa48207be.jpg Changed
02:38:423 (1,3) - i wouldn't like these stacked, move 3 over a little? Sure
02:45:578 (2,3) - same as 00:09:716 (2,3) This would be incredibly hard to put in here
03:04:630 (1) - change this to a kick slider and remove 2, fits the song more http://puu.sh/bUKPG/c8782b7c7c.jpg (if that's not readable, you could space the kick slider out more http://puu.sh/bUKT3/3d468b2fb0.jpg something like that) Changed this
03:14:544 (2,3) - don't stack? ok
04:28:940 (2,3,4,5,6,7,1) - confusing ;n; the fade from the 4 makes it hard to read the lip on the stream. it's cool, but off putting pretty late into the song. it's part of the difficulty though, feel free to keep or change Changed the pattern
04:56:526 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4) - this probably won't fly. that spacing is THE combo breaker, and many (non-pro) players will bash their skulls trying to get this. i'd highly suggest a change :S Made it a bit easier


Very nicely done map, and it's well out of my modding capabilities. if you get my tf2 reference you get bonus points Thanks! Havent played tf2 for a while so I cant say that I got the reference :s

edit: wtf you updated it mid-mod >:C xD

20:49 Low: add "In Silico" to tags, it's the album name
20:49 ProfessionalBox: lets do ti
20:50 ProfessionalBox: sure
20:53 Low: 01:07:388 (1,2,3,4,5) - confusing spacing
20:53 Low: move 01:07:906 (3,4,5) - closer to (2) so players can tell it's 1/2
20:53 Low: 01:10:492 (2,3,4,5) - same thing
20:55 Low: 01:35:319 (5) - adjust this slider's position and angle so it flows out of the stream better. for example: http://prntscr.com/4t4utf
20:57 ProfessionalBox: btw do you mind if I stay quiet unless I have something to ask or mention
20:57 Low: that's fine
20:58 Low: just if you disagree with something i suggest, say something
20:58 ProfessionalBox: yeah
20:58 ProfessionalBox: I will
20:59 Low: 03:04:630 (1) - make this a single circle to emphasize the gap in sound between this and 03:04:802 (2) - 
20:59 Low: there is no sound at the end of it
21:00 Low: 03:05:319 (2) - space this a little farther. i find it more fun like this: http://prntscr.com/4t4w02
21:02 Low: 04:38:940 (3,4,5) - ugly. do this (it's only a slight change) http://prntscr.com/4t4wq5
21:04 Low: 05:31:182 (2) - make the end of this quieter (not silent)
21:05 Low: 01:42:216 (3) - you can't silence the end of a slider, especially when there's plenty of sound in the music. the green tick at the end of this should be at least 20% volume
21:06 Low: 04:21:914 (1) - same thing here, but for the entire slider. if you want, you could insert a custom sliderslide so it isnt as loud with 20 percent volume. however, the slidertick and circles still must be audible
21:07 Low: 00:26:699 (4) - kind of an ugly slider. i'd say to just remove the smooth nodes and make it look like this: http://prntscr.com/4t4y2m
21:08 Low: 00:33:595 (3) - extend the spacing a bit so the start of 00:33:250 (2) is exactly in the middle, like this: http://prntscr.com/4t4yc5
21:09 Low: looks better than what you have 
21:09 Low: 00:40:837 (2) - add a clap to the start of this. the sound is prominent in the music
21:11 Low: that's it

20:52 ProfessionalBox: Heey, Im feeling like an optimistic so I just wanted to say that in case you were going to mod the map in the next 3 hours, dont do it xD
20:52 Lust: i legit just downloaded the map to mod it
20:52 Lust: LOL
20:53 ProfessionalBox: Im getting a mod in that time frame
20:53 ProfessionalBox: LOL
20:53 Lust: like im dead serious, i had it queued up in osu!direct and then you pm'd me
21:17 ProfessionalBox: ok so
21:17 ProfessionalBox: The mod came in early
21:17 ProfessionalBox: Just submitting this
21:18 ProfessionalBox: Then you can do whatever you like to the map
21:18 Lust: alright
21:18 Lust: probably a short irc mod
21:18 ProfessionalBox: Sounds exactly like what I just did
21:19 ProfessionalBox: Now you can update it
21:19 ProfessionalBox: ^^
21:22 Lust: `ok well
21:22 Lust: the bg is 1365x768 not 1366x768
21:22 Lust: one sec lemme fix this for you lol
21:22 ProfessionalBox: If that would have slipped by and got unqualified because of that I'd have killed myself
21:23 Lust: http://puu.sh/bZBr3/15ca9edbb2.png
21:23 Lust: knowing the things the QAT unqualifies for, it probably would have been lol
21:24 ProfessionalBox: I bet it would have gone down in history as the most naziest unqualification ever
21:27 *Lust is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/501107 Pendulum - Propane Nightmares (Celldweller Remix) [Insomnia]]
21:28 Lust: 01:10:147 (1,2) - you need to put some more spacing between these two
21:28 Lust: thought it was 1/2 distance at first
21:28 Lust: 01:07:388 (1,2) - have it similar to this and 01:04:630 (1,2) - 
21:30 ProfessionalBox: do you mind if I dont say anything if I dont have anything to mention about a fix or something to ask
21:31 Lust: reply that youve fixed it
21:31 Lust: because if there are any changes, it needs to be documented in the log that i post
21:31 ProfessionalBox: okay
21:31 ProfessionalBox: Fixed both of these so far
21:31 Lust: sorry, its just an unnecceary neccessity if that makes sense xD
21:33 ProfessionalBox: lol dont worry
21:33 Lust: 01:22:044 (7,1) - 1's slider repeat is being obstructed by 7's hitburst http://puu.sh/bZBV3/143b29dee4.jpg
21:33 ProfessionalBox: I understand
21:33 Lust: you will need to change this since it is unrankable
21:33 ProfessionalBox: if I move it to (6)
21:33 ProfessionalBox: is it still obstruckted?
21:33 Lust: yes
21:33 ProfessionalBox: that extra k so moe
21:34 ProfessionalBox: ahh
21:34 ProfessionalBox: damnit
21:34 Lust: obstrekted
21:34 ProfessionalBox: LOL
21:34 ProfessionalBox: the flow was so nice too ;w;
21:34 ProfessionalBox: well Ill come up with something
21:35 Lust: it plays fine and most people can insinuate that it is a repeating slider, but to keep it safe let's rearrange it
21:37 ProfessionalBox: hmm
21:37 ProfessionalBox: I have an idea
21:37 ProfessionalBox: http://puu.sh/bZCeZ/5f61f1561a.jpg
21:37 ProfessionalBox: I'd move the (8) and (2)
21:38 ProfessionalBox: to keep the flow
21:38 Lust: perfect
21:41 Lust: 01:31:526 (5,2) - awwww maaaaan yudodis http://puu.sh/bZCrZ/0a1ff35f43.jpg
21:41 ProfessionalBox: ohnoes
21:42 ProfessionalBox: Ill just adjust it slightly
21:42 ProfessionalBox: and put it on the head of (2) instead
21:42 Lust: 01:34:802 (7) - move this down a bit, its slightly touching the hp bar and it can be a bit distracting
21:42 Lust: yeah that works
21:42 Lust: 00:16:699 - also delete this break, its so short and players will be expecting something a bit longer (i know i did)
21:43 Lust: removing it allows for some nice tension
21:43 ProfessionalBox: like
21:43 ProfessionalBox: removing or putting stuff in between
21:43 Lust: remove
21:44 Lust: well i mean you can put stuff in between if you'd like
21:44 ProfessionalBox: Is there a convenient way of doing that
21:44 ProfessionalBox: like removing breaks
21:44 Lust: just throw down a couple of circles
21:44 Lust: lol
21:44 ProfessionalBox: Not familiar with the consept
21:44 ProfessionalBox: xD
21:44 ProfessionalBox: ok
21:46 ProfessionalBox: brb 2min
21:46 Lust: nice
21:49 ProfessionalBox: so you enjoy my absence?
21:49 ProfessionalBox: "nice"
21:49 Lust: 02:48:940 (5,6,7,6) - this might be hard to see because of 5 6 and 7's hitbursts
21:50 Lust: 03:04:285 (7,1,2,3,1) - oh many this isnt a suggestion or anything, but this is hella cool yo
21:51 Lust: 03:39:113 (1) - replace this with two circles 1/2 spaced apart, if you listen to it back on 25% you can hear that there isnt anything really there to warrant the 1/4 
21:51 Lust: it contrats heavily against the song tbh
21:51 Lust: just have the two circles stack
21:52 Lust: 03:44:630 (1) - same here
21:52 ProfessionalBox: huh
21:52 ProfessionalBox: I can clearly hear
21:52 ProfessionalBox: the kind of thing that im going for here
21:52 ProfessionalBox: "clearly"
21:52 ProfessionalBox: I can hear it though
21:52 ProfessionalBox: xD
21:53 ProfessionalBox: 02:48:940 (5,6,7,6) - this btw, I think this isn't something that would need to be fixed
21:53 ProfessionalBox: I like the playing aspect of it really much
21:54 Lust: the repeat sliders will need to be changed
21:54 ProfessionalBox: Yeah
21:54 Lust: it doesnt really warrant it much at all
21:54 ProfessionalBox: Those I understand
21:54 Lust: 03:51:440 (2) - delete this circle for the same reason
21:54 Lust: 03:51:354 (1) - and remove this NC and add it on 03:51:526 (3) - 
21:56 ProfessionalBox: done
21:57 Lust: 04:21:914 (1) - raise the volume here by maybe about 5% or so, i know you want to have a quiet part here but its not too audible imo
21:58 ProfessionalBox: 5% doesnt hurt it at all so why not
21:58 Lust: 05:30:837 (1) - this would be nicer if it was a straight slider 
21:59 Lust: http://puu.sh/bZDG1/60a6655e5d.jpg
21:59 Lust: like this maybe
21:59 ProfessionalBox: The point of it is to "break" the flow
21:59 ProfessionalBox: follows the music
21:59 ProfessionalBox: somewhat nicer that way
21:59 ProfessionalBox: imo
22:00 ProfessionalBox: like the music sounds like it gets reversed
22:00 Lust: the direction change from having it a straight slider keeps a similar effect while having it look a little neater
22:00 ProfessionalBox: so I did the same with the flow
22:00 ProfessionalBox: xD
22:01 ProfessionalBox: hmm
22:01 ProfessionalBox: I certainly like how it looks already
22:01 ProfessionalBox: but since the slider before it is straight
22:01 ProfessionalBox: it would fit in nicely
22:01 Lust: its up to you, doesnt effect the gameplay too much anyway
22:01 ProfessionalBox: why not
22:01 ProfessionalBox: Ill change it
22:02 ProfessionalBox: but then again
22:02 ProfessionalBox: the effect is much stronger with curved slider
22:02 ProfessionalBox: ohgod
22:02 ProfessionalBox: aaaaa
22:02 Lust: DECISIONS DECISIONS
22:02 Lust: #firstworldproblems
22:02 ProfessionalBox: to curve or not to curve
22:02 ProfessionalBox: you know what
22:02 ProfessionalBox: The curved version wins
22:02 ProfessionalBox: since there is a double blanket
22:03 ProfessionalBox: and I love my blankets
22:03 Lust: okie smokes
22:03 Lust: thats fine with me
22:03 Lust: update it 
22:03 ProfessionalBox: suree
22:03 ProfessionalBox: just making sure all is truly fixed
22:06 Lust: did you remember to change the bg
22:06 ProfessionalBox: omg
22:06 ProfessionalBox: i didnt
22:06 ProfessionalBox: LOL
22:06 ProfessionalBox: just a sec
22:08 ProfessionalBox: sigh
22:08 ProfessionalBox: my internet
22:08 ProfessionalBox: pls
22:09 ProfessionalBox: SEND THE FUKIN CHANGES
22:09 Lust: RIP
22:09 ProfessionalBox: FINALLY