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Awaken
aaa 来还债
[Insane]
  1. 00:18:959 (4,6) - no hitsound make me feel that I'm hitting the air x.x maybe add whistles at these two?
  2. 00:50:135 (4,8,5,4,8) - I think if you add whistles with these objects,that would sound better imo
  3. 01:31:116 (3,4,6) - maybe it's not a problem but I think you usually spread the jumps in this map. So I guess no overlay would be better
  4. 00:38:567 (1,1,1) - add whistles?
[Hard]
  1. 01:14:841 (2) - add whistle?I saw you added in the same sound before
  2. 01:27:978 (5) - add finish? there is a stress here
  3. 01:44:449 (1,3) - a little overlay,adjust it a little?
[Normal]
  1. 00:11:508 (3) - there is also a stress in the reverse,so I guess adding finish would be better?
  2. 01:19:351 (1,3) - not stack well
  3. 01:55:037 (4) - I think the object in the end should be a circle,that would feel stronger.So make the rhythm like this?
Good Luck!
GGFFQQ55
来摸惹ww

general

OD-1?

感觉combo color那个墨绿色的不大好看。。。ignore me

count down可以去掉?

音效

感觉挺好,没啥说的

节奏

00:18:959 (4,5,6) - 三连怪怪的

00:43:272 (1,2) - 空了一拍。。。不太舒服orz

01:01:312 (3,4,5,1) - 这里听着像是二分之一

01:28:763 (1,2) - 这里中间可以加个跳

01:34:253 (5,6,7,8,9) - 没听出五连的节奏。。。

01:55:233 (7) - 最后曲子还是有尾音。。。滑条或者转盘比较好吧

排列

00:00:723 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - 直线flow有点单薄

00:33:076 (1,2,3,4) - 这梗是可以,但后面这四个太直了有点难打。。。

00:40:135 (1,2) - 滑条这样摆flow可能不太好

00:43:272 (1) - 同上

01:01:312 (3,4,5,1) - 不好看啊爷爷

01:09:155 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - 好难跳,挺爽但间距可以稍小一点

kiai的跳可以再大一点,kiai之后的间距可以小一点

01:28:763 (1) - 滑条style有点难看0.0

01:31:900 (1) - 这根滑条。。。破坏flow且不好看

conclusion

跳梗都很不错,爽

节奏基本可以,爽

有些滑条不好看,有些地方flow不好

图挺喜欢的,妹子萌萌萌萌萌111111
Chloe
irc with awaken
21:21 Chloe: hi
21:21 Chloe: irc
21:21 *Chloe is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/486709 Nekomata Master feat. *spiLa* - Clumsy thoughts [Awaken's Insane]]
21:21 Chloe: 00:06:214 (6) - ctrlg
21:22 Chloe: flow, you know
21:22 Awaken: o
21:25 Chloe: 00:41:704 (1) -
21:25 Chloe: 我觉得这个可以换成2个单点
21:26 Chloe: 00:44:253 (2,3,4) - 太拘束了
21:26 Chloe: 00:47:390 (2,3,4,1) - 一直这样摆倒是不错
21:28 Chloe: 01:15:429这边起其实可以连打。。
21:29 Chloe: .
21:29 Awaken: o
21:29 Chloe: 好像没啥了 节奏方面漏了几个鼓点
21:29 Chloe: 音效用sliderslide补一下?
21:30 Awaken: 懒
21:30 Chloe: 对了
21:30 Chloe: 00:11:900 (1) -
21:30 Chloe: 这个之后我有点建议
21:30 Chloe: 因为后面还是有音的
21:31 Chloe: 考虑一下这样?
21:31 Chloe: 不过我节奏还没下完整 应该还有一个音
21:31 Awaken: 搞两折返?
21:31 Chloe: http://puu.sh/b7fHz/df7169adcc.jpg
21:32 Chloe: 00:36:214 (3) -
21:32 Chloe: 尾巴+clap
21:32 Chloe: 00:36:998 (1) - 另外这边开始我觉得可以加whistle了
21:32 Chloe: soft
21:33 Chloe: 我觉得这图不错
21:33 Chloe: 比七旋樱好
21:33 Chloe: 不过kiai有点平淡
21:33 Awaken: 这也有可比性
21:33 Awaken: fuel
21:33 Chloe: 从排列和音效节奏上来说
21:33 Awaken: 有理
21:33 Awaken: 不过要善良
21:33 Chloe: gg
gg
smallboat
As the Yu-zhi request.

[Awaken's Insane]

  • 00:03:665 (5) - Stack 00:04:057 (1) head? (Like 00:02:096 (5,1) - this pattern.(
    00:09:155 (3) - Suggest use ctrl+g will be a good flow.
    00:11:900 (1) - Personal feeling this note can make a big jump here. (Move to (24|28)?)
    00:20:527 (3,4,5) - Have a stream in this par,perhaps you will consider to add notes in blue line.
    00:48:370 (2,3) - Add notes in white line? And do a anti- jump with (1)(2),and (3) stack 00:48:959 (4) head,like this :
    01:16:018 (6) - Add a note follow the vocal?
    01:53:861 (4) - Change a tune,suggest use a NC here.

Jumps look fine.Good luck your diff.
Awaken

smallboat wrote:

As the Yu-zhi request.

[Awaken's Insane]

  • 00:03:665 (5) - Stack 00:04:057 (1) head? (Like 00:02:096 (5,1) - this pattern.( D: I dislike stacking three 1/2 circles
    00:09:155 (3) - Suggest use ctrl+g will be a good flow. maybe current is ok :d
    00:11:900 (1) - Personal feeling this note can make a big jump here. (Move to (24|28)?) good idea btu
    00:20:527 (3,4,5) - Have a stream in this par,perhaps you will consider to add notes in blue line. let me see..
    00:48:370 (2,3) - Add notes in white line? And do a anti- jump with (1)(2),and (3) stack 00:48:959 (4) head,like this : yours is ok too :D but I want to be slient in this part

    01:16:018 (6) - Add a note follow the vocal? nope,for the finish behind :D
    01:53:861 (4) - Change a tune,suggest use a NC here. changed!
thx for mod :)
Jumps look fine.Good luck your diff.
F D Flourite
Asked to only mod Awaken's Insane~
I will not make the format of modding, plz don't mind... >w<

[恶俗子]
00:03:861 (6) - 我觉得放在00:02:880 (2) - 头上会好一些
00:15:821 (3,5) - Ctrl+G。锐角跳还是像飞球那种同一个方向的flow打起来比较舒服。
00:17:390 (3,4,5) - 弄成4个circle?
00:49:547 (1,2,3,4,1) - 修好五边形
00:52:488 (4,1,2,3) - ^
01:27:194 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - ^
00:53:272 (4,1,2,3) - 修好六边形(这几句摸都没啥营养,主要是这多边形的确不好看)
00:50:331 (1) - 00:53:469 (1) - 01:09:155 (1) - 01:10:723 (1) - 其实对于ins来讲,这里不NC没问题的~ 一来难度其实没怎么增加,二来这样有点NC spam
01:17:194 (2,1) - 不平行啊恶俗大爷
01:30:135 (1) - 不平行,而且丑
01:21:704 (1) - 虽说大跳NC,但是这个NC其实还是没必要
01:18:567 (3,4,5,6,1) - 就我的认知来讲这种间距略大的稳定钝角flow打起来略蛋疼,比较容易掉。

Edit: Overall:

这图flow特别是点->滑条的anti-jump有点多了~(这是Kiai里的两个,由于非Kiai段速度比较慢就不一一指出。01:25:037 (7,1) - 01:36:410 (3,1) - ) 这BPM还好,DT就估计比较难受了 :?

不用overall隔开看着难受OTZ
Awaken

F D Flourite wrote:

Asked to only mod Awaken's Insane~
I will not make the format of modding, plz don't mind... >w<

[恶俗子]
00:03:861 (6) - 我觉得放在00:02:880 (2) - 头上会好一些
00:15:821 (3,5) - Ctrl+G。锐角跳还是像飞球那种同一个方向的flow打起来比较舒服。 有理
00:17:390 (3,4,5) - 弄成4个circle? 不妥
00:49:547 (1,2,3,4,1) - 修好五边形
00:52:488 (4,1,2,3) - ^
01:27:194 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - ^
00:53:272 (4,1,2,3) - 修好六边形(这几句摸都没啥营养,主要是这多边形的确不好看)为何我这么懒
00:50:331 (1) - 00:53:469 (1) - 01:09:155 (1) - 01:10:723 (1) - 其实对于ins来讲,这里不NC没问题的~ 一来难度其实没怎么增加,二来这样有点NC spam 改了点
01:17:194 (2,1) - 不平行啊恶俗大爷 改了点 不过我觉得pattern最重要 nazi没啥必要
01:30:135 (1) - 不平行,而且丑 改了下 不过好像没啥区别hh
01:21:704 (1) - 虽说大跳NC,但是这个NC其实还是没必要 我他吗kiai的NC是乱放的啊
01:18:567 (3,4,5,6,1) - 就我的认知来讲这种间距略大的稳定钝角flow打起来略蛋疼,比较容易掉。这个间距已经可以拆了

Edit: Overall:

这图flow特别是点->滑条的anti-jump有点多了~(这是Kiai里的两个,由于非Kiai段速度比较慢就不一一指出。01:25:037 (7,1) - 01:36:410 (3,1) - ) 这BPM还好,DT就估计比较难受了 :? 啥autijump啊 这应该算bigjump antijump是大时间小间距

不用overall隔开看着难受OTZ
Thx for mod
Flask
Did an IRC mod with mapper. Nice map and nice song!

IRC log
23:54 Flask: 我覺得我可以直接跟你IRC
23:54 Kawaiwkyik: 好
23:55 Flask: 你的I沒什麼啦
23:55 Flask: 00:47:586 (3,4,1) - 有點挑 但是等距吧
23:56 Flask: 01:01:998 (5,1) - 疊在01:01:312 (3) - ?
23:56 Kawaiwkyik: hard麼
23:57 Flask: Insane
23:57 Flask: 疊在那上面可能有點坑不過滿有梗的
23:58 Kawaiwkyik: 好
23:58 Kawaiwkyik: 挺順手
23:58 Flask: 01:06:606 (8) - 你這顆在繞回去(6)那邊我覺得有點卡手 要不要試試看放在左邊一點的像是 x:212, y:96
00:00 Kawaiwkyik: 如果01:06:214 (6,7,8) - 做成一個三角形
00:00 Kawaiwkyik: 怎看
00:00 Kawaiwkyik: 例如 8 放在 308 96那
00:01 Flask: 不錯哦
00:01 Kawaiwkyik: 那好
00:02 Flask: 01:40:723 (5) - 我覺得這部分越往後打越窄了
00:02 Flask: 我感覺你可以直接把(5)往左邊挪
00:02 Kawaiwkyik: 那我把6 移右邊一點吧
00:03 Flask: 也是可以
00:03 Kawaiwkyik: 324 276 之類的
00:03 Flask: 01:49:547 (2,3,4) - 這spacing
00:04 Kawaiwkyik: 哦沒統一orz
00:04 Flask: 好 那位置不錯
00:04 Flask: I沒了
00:04 Flask: 你可以幫Awaken改嗎 還是我要寫Post
00:05 Kawaiwkyik: 我問他意見
00:05 Flask: 那我先看看Hard
00:06 Kawaiwkyik: 我截圖給他看吧
00:06 Flask: 其實也沒什麼啦
00:06 Flask: 看一下Awaken那diff
00:07 Kawaiwkyik: 那好
00:07 Flask: 01:04:449 (5,1) - 這兩個突然沒跟到vocal感覺詭異
00:07 Flask: 看他前面也沒有這類的
00:10 Flask: 01:31:900 (1,2) - 這有點over
00:10 Flask: 可能要改改形狀
00:11 Flask: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1965968 可以試試這樣
00:17 Flask: 他改的怎麼樣啊
00:18 Kawaiwkyik: 改好了
00:18 Flask: 好
00:19 Flask: 看hard
00:19 Kawaiwkyik: diff也傳給我了
00:19 Flask: 01:06:018 (3,4) - 如果你想要爽一點可以各ctrl+g
00:19 Flask: 01:47:586 (4) - 這裡你應該漏了NC
00:20 Kawaiwkyik: ctrl+g了好像有點難 這個不了
00:20 Kawaiwkyik: NC加了
00:20 Flask: 好
00:21 Flask: Normal沒問題
00:21 Flask: 你傳吧
00:23 Kawaiwkyik: 好
00:23 Kawaiwkyik: 傳了
00:25 Flask: 好我看下
00:26 Flask: awaken那diff 01:04:449 (5,1) - 這個確定不改嗎
00:26 Kawaiwkyik: 他說主要是看前面没类似的音 这里有 就跟了
00:26 Flask: 好

(`・ω・´) Bubbled! (`・ω・´)

Edit: Forget to set the icon!!!!!!!!!!!
happy623
diaoo
Meg
Hi wkyik~. awesome map!
but in my opinion, should add AudioLeadIn 1000~2000.
when I played this map, fell start fast :(

good luck~
Topic Starter
Rizia

iMage-- wrote:

Hi wkyik~. awesome map!
but in my opinion, should add AudioLeadIn 1000~2000.
when I played this map, fell start fast :(

good luck~
added audioleadin 1000 :3
Flask
The mapper fixed the lead-in issue, though I think it'll be automatically added before.

Rebubbled!
Ulysses
Popping this due to unrankable issues.
[Insane]

  1. 00:18:959 (4,5,6) -
  2. 00:20:527 (4,5,6) -
  3. 00:21:312 (1,2,3) -
  4. 00:22:880 (1,2,3) -
  5. 00:25:233 (1,2,3) -
  6. 01:48:567 (6,7,8) -
  7. 01:50:135 (5,6,7) -
    They should snap on 1/6 not 1/4.
I would give you a full mod before next weekend.You should fix the issues above if you want to repair your bubble.
Topic Starter
Rizia

nold_1702 wrote:

Popping this due to unrankable issues.
[Insane]

  1. 00:18:959 (4,5,6) -
  2. 00:20:527 (4,5,6) -
  3. 00:21:312 (1,2,3) -
  4. 00:22:880 (1,2,3) -
  5. 00:25:233 (1,2,3) -
  6. 01:48:567 (6,7,8) -
  7. 01:50:135 (5,6,7) -
    They should snap on 1/6 not 1/4.
I would give you a full mod before next weekend.You should fix the issues above if you want to repair your bubble.
fixed and updated
IamKwaN

nold_1702 wrote:

Popping this due to unrankable issues.
[Insane]

  1. 00:18:959 (4,5,6) -
  2. 00:20:527 (4,5,6) -
  3. 00:21:312 (1,2,3) -
  4. 00:22:880 (1,2,3) -
  5. 00:25:233 (1,2,3) -
  6. 01:48:567 (6,7,8) -
  7. 01:50:135 (5,6,7) -
    They should snap on 1/6 not 1/4.
I would give you a full mod before next weekend.You should fix the issues above if you want to repair your bubble.
in fact, it's your responsibility to rebubble no matter if u want or not ;_;
Ulysses

IamKwaN wrote:

in fact, it's your responsibility to rebubble no matter if u want or not ;_;
Never did I tell anyone that I would not rebubble.However,I had had no way to repair if he hadn't fixed those unsnapped objects.
Just wait and I would leave a full mod here.
Ulysses

[General]

OD and AR of Normal are 2 and 4 respectively while that of Hard are 6 and 7.5.The diffculty setting between them are TOOOOTOTOTOTOTOTOOTOOOOTTOOOOOO BIG!I suppose to change setting of Normal to:AR5.5,OD4 and HP4 to make better diff sperad.

個人以為,此難度音效疏淺,在音樂中毎1/1帶重音,卻只用Soft hitsound輕描淡寫.而全個難度音效沒變化,只有幾個一樣hitsound finish跟clap.

[Insane]


  • OD至少加至7.5,OD8為佳,因為這難度實際上比awaken's insane 難,ar,hp都比之高.因此請增加od難度
  1. 00:26:606 (2) - 這邊的音樂給人連點2次1/2的感覺,理據是這邊有明顯的重音。你可以考慮一下把節奏換成[url]=http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2052407這樣[/url],變成1個1/6 slider加一個折迴外加一個於1/1時間線的note。

    好吧,我的中文mod很奇怪
  2. 00:42:488 (5,6,7,8) - Well,I do not get why you half-spacing this pattern while the music here is quite similar to 00:41:704 (1,2,3,4).If I were you,I would spacing this pattern like this so the spacing becomes more reasonable:
  3. 00:49:547 (1) - I really dislike this part as there're random jumps everywhere.Eventually,it is just my subjective opinion.

[Awaken's Insane]

  1. 00:14:449 (2,3,4) -
    00:18:959 (3) -
    00:21:606 (2,3) -
    00:23:174 (2,3) -
    00:25:233 (4,5,6) -
    01:15:429 (1,2,3,4,5) -
    01:54:841 (2,3,4) -
    They should not be snapped as 1/4 but 1/6.

[Hard]


  1. 00:18:959 (3,4,5) - You know snapping, but I do not think you would put 1/6 on hard,so put two 1/2 circles here is fitter.
  2. 00:20:723 (4,5,6) -
  3. 00:21:606 (2,3) -
  4. 00:23:174 (2,3) -
  5. 01:48:567 (4) -
  6. 01:50:135 (4) -
  7. 01:54:841 (2,3,4) -
  8. 00:25:331 (2,3) - All the same.
  9. 00:39:351 (3,1) - Spacing too small as a 1/1 spacing because you used bigger spacing at 00:39:155 (2,3) while they are only 1/2.I think you should change either the 1/1 OR the 1/2 spacing.


    [Normal]



    1. 01:38:567 (1,1) - Normal難度中,spinner後的objects請至小分隔3個1/1線.end spinner at 01:41:312 and remove 01:41:312 (1) this slider therefore.
    2. 00:26:606 (4) - distance snap(not unrable but coloured due to bug).
Topic Starter
Rizia

nold_1702 wrote:

[General]

OD and AR of Normal are 2 and 4 respectively while that of Hard are 6 and 7.5.The diffculty setting between them are TOOOOTOTOTOTOTOTOOTOOOOTTOOOOOO BIG!I suppose to change setting of Normal to:AR5.5,OD4 and HP4 to make better diff sperad.

個人以為,此難度音效疏淺,在音樂中毎1/1帶重音,卻只用Soft hitsound輕描淡寫.而全個難度音效沒變化,只有幾個一樣hitsound finish跟clap.

[Insane]


  • OD至少加至7.5,OD8為佳,因為這難度實際上比awaken's insane 難,ar,hp都比之高.因此請增加od難度
  1. 00:26:606 (2) - 這邊的音樂給人連點2次1/2的感覺,理據是這邊有明顯的重音。你可以考慮一下把節奏換成[url]=http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2052407這樣[/url],變成1個1/6 slider加一個折迴外加一個於1/1時間線的note。

    好吧,我的中文mod很奇怪
  2. 00:42:488 (5,6,7,8) - Well,I do not get why you half-spacing this pattern while the music here is quite similar to 00:41:704 (1,2,3,4).If I were you,I would spacing this pattern like this so the spacing becomes more reasonable:
  3. 00:49:547 (1) - I really dislike this part as there're random jumps everywhere.Eventually,it is just my subjective opinion.

[Hard]


  1. 00:18:959 (3,4,5) - You know snapping, but I do not think you would put 1/6 on hard,so put two 1/2 circles here is fitter.
  2. 00:20:723 (4,5,6) -
  3. 00:21:606 (2,3) -
  4. 00:23:174 (2,3) -
  5. 01:48:567 (4) -
  6. 01:50:135 (4) -
  7. 01:54:841 (2,3,4) -
  8. 00:25:331 (2,3) - All the same.
  9. 00:39:351 (3,1) - Spacing too small as a 1/1 spacing because you used bigger spacing at 00:39:155 (2,3) while they are only 1/2.I think you should change either the 1/1 OR the 1/2 spacing.


    [Normal]



    1. 01:38:567 (1,1) - Normal難度中,spinner後的objects請至小分隔3個1/1線.end spinner at 01:41:312 and remove 01:41:312 (1) this slider therefore.
    2. 00:26:606 (4) - distance snap.
全都改好了
Insane 改了 OD8 HP7.5
Normal 改了 OD3 AR4.5
最後加了一點點hitsound
waiting for gder reply
Topic Starter
Rizia
updated awaken's insane
Sellenite
怎么还没rank,打包
Ulysses
Awaken applied nothing,please quote my mod and reply why you rejected all these.
Also:


Please also fix it.
Awaken

[Awaken's Insane]


  1. 01:15:429 (1,2,3,4,5) -
    fixed this
    They should not be snapped as 1/4 but 1/6.
I think using 1/6 snap is really hard for playing and... putting 1/4 here should be okay because I want stream here...
Topic Starter
Rizia

nold_1702 wrote:

Awaken applied nothing,please quote my mod and reply why you rejected all these.
Also:


Please also fix it.
fixed the audioleadin and updated
Ulysses

Awaken wrote:

[Awaken's Insane]


  1. 01:15:429 (1,2,3,4,5) -
    fixed this
    They should not be snapped as 1/4 but 1/6.
I think using 1/6 snap is really hard for playing and... putting 1/4 here should be okay because I want stream here...
I won't rebubble a diff with unsnapped notes.Please fix.Rather than putting 1/6,there are also many methods to rhythm.Putting 1/2,putting a 1/6 slider,putting 1/1 notes.
I indicate,putting 1/6 on 1/4 is UNRANKABLE.Saying you wanted to stream doesn't change the truth.
Awaken
.
Ulysses
Congratulation
Topic Starter
Rizia

nold_1702 wrote:

Congratulation
yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah

thanks nold ><
F D Flourite
Congratulations~
Sellenite
柚子也要等出!狱!啦!
Meg
Gratzztztztztzttzttz :)
Maboyu
柚子恭喜>.<
Ujimatsu Chiya
Gratz!! wky. owo
Topic Starter
Rizia
thanks for support ><
Aka
ew D:
Ulysses

Aka wrote:

ew D:
slider reverse is still visible.Thats why I accepted it.Not an unrankable issue.
Garven
If you popped for unrankable issues, you can't go straight to rank. Also you should fix that hidden repeat arrow anyway. That's covered up enough to cause alarm - especially with old style sliders.
Garven
Reverting back to bubbled state due to the above and a quick mod (please get BATs to finish up the set) :

[General]
Tick rate 2 fits this song best

[Awaken's Insane]
00:22:684 (1,2) - Make the repeat more visible please
This was pretty nice until the chorus where you suddenly start using unsnapped slider ends and it just kinda took away from the nice rhythm of the song. :(
01:29:547 (3,4,5) - These play pretty awkwardly from a rhythmic perspective. Mainly the end of the 5 slider.

Insane was really fun, Kawaiwkyik! Nice work on that.
Topic Starter
Rizia
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Asphyxia
Awaken's Insane


  1. 01:04:449 (5,1) - Consider using a different rhythm, currently this plays awkward because your sliders don't really follow the vocals correctly nor the rhythm. I got much better results with this one;
    better yet, you can 01:05:233 (1) - turn this into 2x 1/2 sliders or use notes instead.
  2. 01:14:253 (3) - I dislike this rhythm here because the vocals stop 01:14:449 - here yet the slider continues. The stanza should be clickable because it's a powerful beat. Try this instead?
  3. 01:20:919 (6) - Looking at your NC patterning, shouldn't the NC be added here instead of 01:21:704 (1) - ? Same stuff happens in 01:33:665 (4) - , this should be NC'd to follow your patterning.
  4. 01:27:586 (2,4) - I think you could increase the spacing on these notes, they felt incredible close to the sliders which wasn't too enjoyable. Moreover, I got confused because you used quite similar spacing 01:22:488 (1,2) - here so I thought the rhythm would be somewhat similar so the spacing increase would also avoid unnecessary confusion.
  5. 01:45:233 (3) - From this point on you started to use a lot bigger spacing than earlier, even the chorus had smaller spacing overall which I find a bit odd because a calmer part should have less spacing. I would recommend you to maybe reduce some of the spacing but it's entirely up to you, plays fine nonetheless.
  6. Pretty fun :P

These are just suggestions, free to deny them with a reason. Insane was really fun like Garven said, nothing to complain there.
xLolicore-
I will wait for dat moe bg to be ranked again >:)
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