GARNiDELiA - ambiguous (TV Size) [OsuMania|CatchTheBeat|Taik · forum

TKS

Former osu!taiko Champion: 2014

1,380 posts

Joined July 2011

TKS 2014-06-19T18:26:15+00:00

NaxelCL wrote:
Then update!!!! gogogo taiko icon(?

NO

goodluck everyone!

ursa

1,302 posts

Joined April 2010

ursa 2014-06-21T03:28:27+00:00

Rechecking

Yue's Rain

00:47:338 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5) - i'm doubt if this one still be called yue's mapping style.
( i mean , as i know , i still feel yue's jumping pattern style in the rain diff , but this part is strange. this part can still be improved btw).
I'm expected for this part to become better & nicer to catch , the current one just feels weird catch for me = - =

Crystal's overdose

01:03:855 (2,4) - move it 1 grid to the left. (it must) > _ >

01:11:608 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - well, you can still reduce distance without breaking the chain jump on this part (Pic)

try to get ctb 1-2 ctb mods for salad diff .

mingmichael

1,720 posts

Joined May 2012

mingmichael 2014-06-21T03:53:43+00:00

ursa

Rechecking

Yue's Rain

00:47:338 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5) - i'm doubt if this one still be called yue's mapping style.
( i mean , as i know , i still feel yue's jumping pattern style in the rain diff , but this part is strange. this part can still be improved btw).
I'm expected for this part to become better & nicer to catch , the current one just feels weird catch for me = - = i agree too. sorry yue, i changed this and also i added HDashes on 00:45:316 (8,9,1) - to make a consistent HDash for every cymbal sounds

try to get ctb 1-2 ctb mods for salad diff .

thanks for the mods!

Yue's Rain

osu file format v13

[General]
AudioFilename: Ambiguous.mp3
AudioLeadIn: 1000
PreviewTime: 51552
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Soft
StackLeniency: 0.7
Mode: 2
LetterboxInBreaks: 0
WidescreenStoryboard: 0

[Editor]
DistanceSpacing: 1
BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 8
TimelineZoom: 2.499998

[Metadata]
Title:ambiguous (TV Size)
TitleUnicode:ambiguous (TV Size)
Artist:GARNiDELiA
ArtistUnicode:GARNiDELiA
Creator:NaxelCL
Version:Yue's Rain
Source:キルラキル
Tags:Kill la Kill opening  matoi ryuko kiryuin satsuki studio trigger meg rock mingmichael  [Yue] eldnl clsw Kuo Kyoka Tip Baka -_r_u_m_i_a- QHideaki13 Stefan
BeatmapID:403305
BeatmapSetID:163247

[Difficulty]
HPDrainRate:6
CircleSize:4
OverallDifficulty:9
ApproachRate:9
SliderMultiplier:2
SliderTickRate:1

[Events]
//Background and Video events
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Video,-550,"Kill la Kill.avi"
//Break Periods
//Storyboard Layer 0 (Background)
//Storyboard Layer 1 (Fail)
//Storyboard Layer 2 (Pass)
//Storyboard Layer 3 (Foreground)
//Storyboard Sound Samples
//Background Colour Transformations
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NaxelCL

Topic Starter

NaxelCL 2014-06-21T04:08:41+00:00

Then update the diff of yue thanks again ming , wait for Crystal and go to found more mods

mingmichael

1,720 posts

Joined May 2012

mingmichael 2014-06-21T08:21:29+00:00

let me help the salad diff a bit

Red ~> unrakable issue, must be changed
Blue ~> highly suggested, consider to use it
Black ~> suggestion, just free to choose it

====================

[

Salad]

Notes

• ctrl+g 00:12:113 (3) - ? it will make more movement between 00:11:439 (2,3,1) - if you change the 00:12:113 (3) -

• a reverse triple on 00:14:136 (2) - ? it's quite boring because it usually appears. how about make a triplet like this? and i think it will give a better movement too

• if you agree with above, i think you can move 00:14:810 (5) - to the middle x:256 to make a better movement between these three notes on 00:14:473 (4,5,6) -

• 00:15:821 (1) - how about put it on the middle too live above ^ ?

• make 00:17:844 (1) - stack with 00:16:495 (3) -

• i think the slider on 00:18:518 (3) - can be changed like this. it will support the instrument sound which is stopped on 00:18:686 -

• move 00:22:563 (3) - to x:80. i think the movements between 00:21:889 (2,3,4,1) - will be much better too if you move the (3) to a bit left

• the reverse slider on 00:27:282 (4) - will make a less movement between these three notes 00:26:608 (3,4,1) - . imo it can be improved a bit to make the movement. how about just make a horizontal slider and put it on x:208, like this. and later you can see the result, especially for the movements between those three notes

• 00:29:304 (3) - move to x:176. to make a better movement between 00:28:630 (2,3,4) -

• just a little suggestion here. how about move 00:29:979 (1) - to be the middle, x:256? make a bit far distance on there so it can have a jump between 00:29:641 (4,1) - . this jump will support the strong instrument sound (the cymbal sound..? or drum hit? i dunno lol) which comes out on 00:29:979 -

so that jump can emphasize the sound well too

• 00:30:990 (3) - maybe you can move this a left a bit

• the patterns on 00:35:372 (1,2,3,4) - . i think you can make the distance closer a bit. like 00:35:709 (2) - x:192 ; 00:36:383 (3) - x:112 and 00:36:720 (4) - x:336

• move 00:38:405 (3) - to left a bit again

• move 00:48:181 (1) - to x:320 or you can make it stacks with 00:47:507 (4) -

• move 00:49:866 (4) - to x:176 or you can make it stacks with 00:48:518 (2) -

• move 01:10:091 (2) - to right a grid. x:48

• make 01:16:158 (2,3,4) - a movement a bit? like you can move (2) and (4) to x:96 and x:192

• move 01:21:552 (3) - to x:304?

====================

now the big problem is about NC. it looks that many inconsistent part for the NCs. i suggest you to use NC for every 2 stanzas (if you are confused, you can look on the timing. this is called by every 2 stanzas. it will be much better and also it will consistent for the NCs. well let i give the examples
• 00:08:406 - NC

• remove NC 00:09:754 -

• remove NC 00:12:788 -

• remove NC 00:15:821 -

• 00:16:495 - NC

• remove NC 00:17:844 -

• remove NC 00:21:552 -

• NC 00:21:889 -

• remove NC 00:23:574 -

• NC 00:24:585 -

• remove NC 00:25:597 -

• NC 00:27:282 -

• remove NC 00:27:956 -

• you can try for the next

====================

yoo goodluck!
@naxel : you haven't updated Yue's Rain. please update it again

Last edited by mingmichael 2014-06-21T12:22:21+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

Xinely

5,014 posts

Joined April 2012

Xinely 2014-06-21T09:30:17+00:00

looking the salad diff as requested

Salad

00:08:406 (3) - finish on head because cymbal
00:16:495 (3) - ^
00:09:585 - add note because the music is cymbal here
00:11:102 (1) - finish because cymbal
00:17:844 (1) - ^
00:12:282 - you should map this time because the cymbal music here. 00:10:091 (2,3) - change into circle and 1/2 slider would be great
00:14:979 - you should map this again because cymbal
00:18:518 (3) - try to change the slider into 2 circles at 00:18:518 - 00:18:686 - instead because the 00:18:686 - is pitch music
00:21:889 (2) - x:320 and 00:22:563 (3) - x:48 for better movement rather than anti jump at (2)
00:24:585 (3) - this place is perfect for jump ;-; (ctrl+G and move to 176)
00:29:979 (1) - remove sampleset drum here for finish sound which emphasize the cymbal a lot than drum
00:35:372 (1) - feel empty here. at least give clap or finish
00:37:394 (1) - forced jump here imo. the music is weak drum sound so for me jump doesn't fit at this time. use normal spacing instead
00:40:597 (4) - add finish too here because cymbal
00:43:293 - you must map this time because cymbal again. 00:43:125 (5) - change into circle and 1/2 slider
00:45:990 - ^
00:48:518 (2) - ^
00:44:641 - add note because cymbal sound
00:47:507 (4) - move this slider to 00:47:338 - and add note 00:47:844 - to emphasize the cymbal at 00:47:338 - +vocal [dont forget add finish on (4)]
00:51:552 (1) - finish at head because cymbal
00:54:248 (2) - ^
01:02:338 (1) - ^
01:05:035 (4) - ^
00:56:945 (3) - add finish too because cymbal
00:59:641 (3) - ^
01:02:001 (3) - give movement too for this circle.. feel too.. weird
01:06:046 (2) - you must map this 01:06:214 - time because cymbal and vocal stress :< , circle and 1/2 slider would be great
01:07:394 (4) - finish on tail because cymbal
01:10:091 (2) - ^
01:08:405 (2) - x:128 for better movement
01:13:125 (1) - finish because cymbal
01:15:821 (1) - ^
01:17:675 (2) - x:388 for better movement
01:18:518 (1) - make it into jump instead because the perfect time of cymbal stress
Im quite doubt about the spacing because it seems like for Cup for me >_<

no kudosu ~
Good Luck~

QHideaki13

Global Moderator

456 posts

Joined March 2011

QHideaki13 2014-06-23T11:28:29+00:00

Fixed most of the mod(s) given!
Thanks for the mod, mingmichael and Xinely~

Update

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NaxelCL

Topic Starter

NaxelCL 2014-06-23T17:35:53+00:00

Ready ~ go to talk again ursa<3

CLSW

osu! Alumni

2,182 posts

Joined October 2010

CLSW 2014-06-25T04:57:23+00:00

sorry for late, here it is

http://puu.sh/9J2iH/6f44bf2863.osu

NaxelCL

Topic Starter

NaxelCL 2014-06-25T15:14:18+00:00

Then update!

ursa

1,302 posts

Joined April 2010

ursa 2014-07-18T09:56:14+00:00

Timeline suggestion for Salad diff

well ignore the pattern change , just test the timeline & choose for important part that need to be changed
(i reccomend try to check the timeline change from 00:07:901 - to 00:18:518 , & 01:13:125 - to 01:23:237 ,-)

well i'm sorry not making a note list to point which part that i've pointed to change because it'll take time to upload pic & ect , so i'll give the modded diff to as an alternative (& i guess it'll easier & faster)

also.pm me back when it's updated so i can check it

[Yue]

1,643 posts

Joined January 2011

[Yue] 2014-07-27T02:44:42+00:00

I'm back o333o

Thanks for all the help ming <3
Disculpa los inconvenientes Naxel :c estaré nuevamente al pendiente de este mapa.

NaxelCL

Topic Starter

NaxelCL 2014-07-27T19:05:45+00:00

okeyo333o

OnosakiHito

osu!taiko Paragon

6,821 posts

Joined March 2010

OnosakiHito 2014-07-28T23:45:19+00:00

I got called to check the Futsuu, and I have to say that this is a really hard Futsuu.
The beginning is dense in note density, and kiai becomes really crazy. Let me show you how a normal Futsuu should be more like mapped:

My version v

Stefan's version ^

You can see there is a big difference. Right now, Stefan's Futsuu contains really long consecutive patterns, e.g.:
01:09:417~01:21:383 - This is Muzukashii level.

It seems like people in the Taiko community have problems to keep lower difficulties easy, which leads to such um.... overmapping? Dunno how to call it. Nontheless, I will pop that taiko icon, also because I talked to Stefan already (he was the one who asked me for the opinion).
Recommending to rise the lable of every difficultie by one and add a new Futsuu which is really easier. Muzu is fine I guess. A little dense, but that's less of a problem. Yet it can be called Oni after Futsuu got renamed to Muzu. And Oni to Inner.

Don't have to worry, I will take care of this. I'm also in contact with Stefan.

QHideaki13

Global Moderator

456 posts

Joined March 2011

QHideaki13 2014-08-05T20:21:59+00:00

Sorry for the delay. ;w;
Made some changes based on the suggested timeline. Also, fixed the spacing.

Changelog for reference

Major changes (from the suggested timeline):

00:07:901 - to 00:18:518 -
(00:41:439 - to 00:50:035 -)
01:13:125 - to 01:23:237 -

Minor changes (other than the suggested timeline):
00:20:540 (7) - Moved to x:192
00:21:552 (1) - Moved to x:208
00:23:237 (1,2) - Ctrl+G
00:27:956 (2) - Moved to x:192
00:32:001 (2) - Moved to x:80
00:33:012 (1) - Moved to x:432
00:37:394 (1) - Moved to x:464
00:37:731 (2) - Moved to x:336
00:38:743 (4) - Moved to x:176
00:53:574 (4,1) - Stacked at x:432
00:55:597 (4) - Moved to x:80
00:55:934 (1) - Moved to x:320
00:56:945 (3) - Moved to x:256
00:57:282 (1) - Moved to x:448
00:58:293 (3) - Moved to x:256
00:58:630 (1) - Moved to x:128
00:59:641 (3) - Moved to x:336
01:00:653 (1) - Moved to x:208
01:01:664 (2,3) - Stacked at x:48
01:03:012 (2) - Moved to x:320
01:09:417 (4,1) - Ctrl+G, 01:09:417 (4) - moved to x:224, 01:09:754 (1) - moved to x:320
01:12:282 (3) - Moved to x:176

Hopefully I didn't missed out anything.
(Reason for the changes: I figured out that the spacing is too near and less challenging. I decided to change it so that the movement will be smooth and the pattern will be stabilized.)
If this difficulty needs another round of modding, I would say I'll go for it. Kindly let me know if there are any issues with the changes.

Very useful suggestions. Thanks for the mod, ursa~

Update

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NaxelCL

Topic Starter

NaxelCL 2014-08-07T18:13:12+00:00

Ready for CtB icon! call ursa

Akasha-

Nomination Assessment Team

4,418 posts

Joined April 2013

Akasha- 2014-08-08T15:09:34+00:00

NaxelCL wrote:
Ready for CtB icon! call ursa

Mania and taiko is also

ursa

1,302 posts

Joined April 2010

ursa 2014-08-11T02:50:01+00:00

*Rechecking

at Q-H's Salad is this 00:33:012 (1) - seems missing whistle hitsound ? .

just that

QHideaki13

Global Moderator

456 posts

Joined March 2011

QHideaki13 2014-08-11T05:48:41+00:00

Fixed!

Update

osu file format v13

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PreviewTime: 51552
Countdown: 0
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StackLeniency: 0.7
Mode: 2
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[Editor]
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TitleUnicode:ambiguous (TV Size)
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ArtistUnicode:GARNiDELiA
Creator:NaxelCL
Version:Q-H's Salad
Source:キルラキル
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CLSW

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CLSW 2014-08-11T14:55:17+00:00

http://puu.sh/aNWsw/56cce9f76d.osu

hope this would be the last update

Stefan

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Stefan 2014-09-06T12:22:23+00:00

whenever I will find the time I will try to fix all the issues in the Taiko Set (including to talk with m1ng about that since it's also about him)

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