I never fully understood why DT raises the difficulty so much? Does BPM really have that much of an impact on the star rating?
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I've been lurking in this thread for a while and I admire your constant effort at getting better. 3.5kpp in 6 months is not bad at all!
It really depends on how much you invest yourself into something. If you work for it you will see a result. And 3,5K in 6 months is a ton.
EDIT: The only thing I would invest a lot of time into now would be full screen jumps because I just feel like a boss when I somehow hit those things. But school is around the corner so, good grades don't just happen ¯\_(ツ)_/¯.
EDIT: The only thing I would invest a lot of time into now would be full screen jumps because I just feel like a boss when I somehow hit those things. But school is around the corner so, good grades don't just happen ¯\_(ツ)_/¯.
and accuracy. basically it increased everything that is weighted a lot, and actually decreases the difficulty of things that are difficult but are not weighed, like reading and patterns.[-Cloud-] wrote:
Aim and Speed are greatly increased with DT.
No change in AR will ever counteract the need to read everything 1.5x as fast. DT makes difficult-to-read maps near unreadable.B1rd wrote:
like reading and patterns.
Change the title to "The Road to Azer-Tier"Woobowiz wrote:
if you know you'll choke, just choke as near to the end as you can, preferably as near to the end as is physically possible.Woobowiz wrote:
That's what I do.
some people use AR10 because they want to read less, unfortunately I am those people who likes those patternsNarrillNezzurh wrote:
No change in AR will ever counteract the need to read everything 1.5x as fast. DT makes difficult-to-read maps near unreadable.B1rd wrote:
like reading and patterns.
Actually, I think that in some cases, being slower can make maps harder to read. With DT or w/o, maps have the same circle density- with DT you have to comprehend what you're seeing 50% faster, but without it, you have to keep the notes in your 'memory' for longer. This is the reason that some people may have trouble no-modding AR8 maps they can DT.NarrillNezzurh wrote:
No change in AR will ever counteract the need to read everything 1.5x as fast. DT makes difficult-to-read maps near unreadable.B1rd wrote:
like reading and patterns.
DT or no DT means no difference if you have a good sense of rhythm and time, assuming we're talking about relatively familiar tempos of 60-240, which is where about 99% of music lands. The majority of people who can't read AR8 simply lack those, and play whack-a-mole simulator instead. Because if you can't read 130bpm then you sure as fuck can't read 300bpm, as it barely exists outside this game aside from shitty scene music like splitter/speedcore.B1rd wrote:
Actually, I think that in some cases, being slower can make maps harder to read. With DT or w/o, maps have the same circle density- with DT you have to comprehend what you're seeing 50% faster, but without it, you have to keep the notes in your 'memory' for longer. This is the reason that some people may have trouble no-modding AR8 maps they can DT.
So people who aren't able to stream 130BPM stream lack rhytmn instead of fingercontrol? Oh, that's new.
Umm ... Why? Azer plays more HDHR than DT.Faces3 wrote:
Change the title to "The Road to Azer-Tier"Woobowiz wrote:
Also here's another choke, full combo is 1442 with a spinner at the end. Do the math.
B1rd wrote:
Actually, I think that in some cases, being slower can make maps harder to read. With DT or w/o, maps have the same circle density- with DT you have to comprehend what you're seeing 50% faster, but without it, you have to keep the notes in your 'memory' for longer. This is the reason that some people may have trouble no-modding AR8 maps they can DT.
People have trouble nomod FCing maps they could DT because they aren't used to reading AR8, not because the map is actually hard for them. A difficult concept, I know.thedamntrain wrote:
DT or no DT means no difference if you have a good sense of rhythm and time, assuming we're talking about relatively familiar tempos of 60-240, which is where about 99% of music lands. The majority of people who can't read AR8 simply lack those, and play whack-a-mole simulator instead. Because if you can't read 130bpm then you sure as fuck can't read 300bpm, as it barely exists outside this game aside from shitty scene music like splitter/speedcore.
or because they have difficulties 'going slow'. personally ive had cases where i can DT an ar8 map but cant play it modless because it was toooo sloooow i literally lose interest and forget to click or something.
obviously not because it was AR8 because I was able 1xmiss near fc this like 2 months ago because despite being ar8 it was fast enough for me to get a good groove going https://osu.ppy.sh/s/34544 the fairly high note density was no issue.
i just dont think it's very often someone is so bad at reading ar8 that they can't even play a map they can double time FC simply because of the AR.. you'd have to have straight up abysmal reading
obviously not because it was AR8 because I was able 1xmiss near fc this like 2 months ago because despite being ar8 it was fast enough for me to get a good groove going https://osu.ppy.sh/s/34544 the fairly high note density was no issue.
i just dont think it's very often someone is so bad at reading ar8 that they can't even play a map they can double time FC simply because of the AR.. you'd have to have straight up abysmal reading
\:D/Riince wrote:
i just dont think it's very often someone is so bad at reading ar8 that they can't even play a map they can double time FC simply because of the AR.. you'd have to have straight up abysmal reading
GoldenWolfGoldenWolf wrote:
\:D/Riince wrote:
i just dont think it's very often someone is so bad at reading ar8 that they can't even play a map they can double time FC simply because of the AR.. you'd have to have straight up abysmal reading
..... \:D/........Yes because posting something random like this contributes to the thread a lot, i know... Whatevs.
Maybe you should try to use your brain and think this was a way to say "Hey this sounds like me, I do that!" but Whatevs right?
Also, contribute to what? This thread is a friggin blog about someone's progression, there is nothing to "contribute" about it.
But Whatevs, right?
Also, contribute to what? This thread is a friggin blog about someone's progression, there is nothing to "contribute" about it.
But Whatevs, right?
Topic Starter
If it's any consolation, I chuckled at the \:D/GoldenWolf wrote:
"Hey this sounds like me, I do that!"
Hmm....I haven't streamed in a while, probably because I don't get much viewers, but I won't be able to get viewers if I don't stream. The struggle is real.
You're not novel enough in the osu! community to get lots of viewers, and osu! isn't really something a non-player can enjoy watching anyway.
Azer chokes a lot, so that joke made sense in a way.nooblet wrote:
Umm ... Why? Azer plays more HDHR than DT.Faces3 wrote:
Change the title to "The Road to Azer-Tier"
Also here's another choke, full combo is 1442 with a spinner at the end. Do the math.
i didn't know every joke anyone make had to be 100% correct
jesus standards are fucking high today
noobsie assumed you were referring to woob's AR8 DT fetish, since that's kind of a common theme in this thread.
ar8dt are bullshit easy sources of pp compared to nomod [compare fcing a 3.5 star map with dt to a 5.00+ star nomod map. yeah...] so it wasnt a huge surprise he got hung up on it.NarrillNezzurh wrote:
noobsie assumed you were referring to woob's AR8 DT fetish, since that's kind of a common theme in this thread.
Topic Starter
Sometimes it's a Nightcore fetish, but only on maps with no Vocals.NarrillNezzurh wrote:
noobsie assumed you were referring to woob's AR8 DT fetish, since that's kind of a common theme in this thread.
The 3593 pp thing was itching the back of my head so I had to fix it and hit 3600.
I didn't say it was surprising.
Obviously.
NC > DTWoobowiz wrote:
Nightcore
Obviously.
ohohohohohohNarrillNezzurh wrote:
noobsie assumed you were referring to woob's AR8 DT fetish, since that's kind of a common theme in this thread.
okay
ar8dt are bullshit easy sources of pp compared to nomod [compare fcing a 3.5 star map with dt to a 5.00+ star nomod map. yeah...]the reason why i decided to become a nomod player
i get a big feeling of accomplishment from FCing a 5 star nomod map like when i fc'd this first try
Topic Starter
I don't, I just feel miserable and say "If I fced this weeks/months ago, it would have been nice pp" D:Faces3 wrote:
i get a big feeling of accomplishment from FCing a 5 star nomod map
Also in my opinion, it's kind of hard to stay accurate with low BPM streams.
Also, 5.02 star maps should give more pp than this
(Believe me, I'm trying for a 99% run)Do them with HDHR. 200+ easy.
they give that much because the pp system knows you're a filthy DT player mangWoobowiz wrote:
I don't, I just feel miserable and say "If I fced this weeks/months ago, it would have been nice pp" D:
Also in my opinion, it's kind of hard to stay accurate with low BPM streams.
Also, 5.02 star maps should give more pp than this
DT is not that easy lolFaces3 wrote:
they give that much because the pp system knows you're a filthy DT player mangWoobowiz wrote:
I don't, I just feel miserable and say "If I fced this weeks/months ago, it would have been nice pp" D:
Also in my opinion, it's kind of hard to stay accurate with low BPM streams.
Also, 5.02 star maps should give more pp than this
ilikepudge wrote:
DT is not that easy lol
let's be srs doe
AR8 DT is piss easy
DT has the highest pp to effort ratio on medium-speed maps with easy patterns, like most TV size hards. The difficulty ramps up rapidly as patterns get more complex, which is why you don't see lots of DT plays on complex maps despite their low object density.
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/83354?m=0Faces3 wrote:
ilikepudge wrote:
DT is not that easy lol
let's be srs doe
AR8 DT is piss easy
SPOILER
actually this wasn't hard for me
but pp says apparently it kinda is
and it seems that most of my top dt scores are ar8 dt and they have given some decent pp
but that's only because they are old maps and people didn't place ar9 on every insane map they see back then. god damn, people and their high ar's
pls stop
but pp says apparently it kinda is
and it seems that most of my top dt scores are ar8 dt and they have given some decent pp
but that's only because they are old maps and people didn't place ar9 on every insane map they see back then. god damn, people and their high ar's
pls stop
WWW said that DT isn't overweighted and he is higher ranked than all of u and has more subscribers on youtube so he is right
you talk like WWW is good lmao, ive gone up like 1200 ranks in 2 days how many has www gone up? Like 1 rank in a whole year? Please. That's just sad.Pettanko wrote:
WWW said that DT isn't overweighted and he is higher ranked than all of u and has more subscribers on youtube so he is right
also
subtleRiince wrote:
you talk like WWW is good lmao, ive gone up like 1200 ranks in 2 days how many has www gone up? Like 1 rank in a whole year? Please. That's just sad.Pettanko wrote:
WWW said that DT isn't overweighted and he is higher ranked than all of u and has more subscribers on youtube so he is right
also
I feel ashamed to admit that this was an entertaining post.Riince wrote:
you talk like WWW is good lmao, ive gone up like 1200 ranks in 2 days how many has www gone up? Like 1 rank in a whole year? Please. That's just sad.Pettanko wrote:
WWW said that DT isn't overweighted and he is higher ranked than all of u and has more subscribers on youtube so he is right
the map is aim heavy (sure there are streams in it aswell, but in the end it is aim heavy) bumping it's star rating up quite a bit while not increasing it's pp worth that much (since it has a low speed value). add to that that you had only barely 98% acc, and there arent that many circles in the map compared to it's max combo, i think 150pp for that score is fine. if you SSed it would probably be around 170 which is fine for a map like that.Woobowiz wrote:
I don't, I just feel miserable and say "If I fced this weeks/months ago, it would have been nice pp" D:Faces3 wrote:
i get a big feeling of accomplishment from FCing a 5 star nomod map
Also in my opinion, it's kind of hard to stay accurate with low BPM streams.
Also, 5.02 star maps should give more pp than this
to give you a comparison. hoshizora SS is like 185pp
lol pp