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Ok these 4 are the possible cause of Deaths.

We know that I can't kill people.
We know that either CPR or Quack are dead.

This ammounts to 3 possible deaths Overnight, at 6p that'd be insta lose if we mislynch

Sakura (SNB) > Sonatora (Weak, Quack, CPR, Paranoid, Naive )
Drezi > beeboy
Navizel > Drezi
CTh > Navizel
Sonatora > Navizel
beeboy > No Target

No one targeted Gumica either so Gumica died of a mafia kill.
^
This is interesting so i guess it's time to check on Gumica's reads.

Also i'm thinking on no lynching and doing the circle targeting anyone else agrees?

agree

Drezi
beeboy123
Chamelo_Th
Navizel
Sakura
Sonatora

This is the list. target the person below you, if you're at the bottom target the person above you, this means:

Drezi > beeboy
beeboy > CTh
CTh > Navizel
Navizel > Sakura
Sakura > Sonatora
Sonatora > Drezi

This way scum have no way to escape being implicated by targets and we can more clearly analyze the roles. I trust that if i die you guys will be able to figure it out.

That is if we no lynch to do this... Otherwise i'll hammer CTh.

Oh btw, on other news if we mislynch today i'll be targetting Drezi tonight I know I can't kill Because no one targeted me, so i wasnt jailed, and no one else targeted Sonatora so i'm not CPR, Drezi's currently my highest townread and i rather protect him if we decide not to go along with the plan.

Sakura wrote:

Also i'm thinking on no lynching and doing the circle targeting anyone else agrees?

I guess so, you can't be helping out CTH as a fellow scum as there is 1 scum left so I feel comfortable doing this.

Worst case scenario is that 3 people die and it a 2v1 against scum (as the doctor that dies by not being protected will be protected) which isn't that bad as long as everyone targets properly. And even if 3 people die the scum will be obvious.

obviously I won't vote no lynch as I want to hear everyones thoughts before we end the day

anyone?

Well let's see.

1) If CTh is NOT scum and we lynch him:
If CTh wasn't weak doc and the weak doctor targets scum and doesn't get protected + scum doesn't get jailed and doesn't target someone who is protected + CTh wasn't CPR/Quack and CPR/Quack targets someone who is not the scum and isn't protected by one of the three possible protections, than we lose.

This scenario is very very unlikely, what's likely is that 0, 1 or 2 people die, since NK or CPR/Quack kill can be jailed plus NK and CPR/Quack kill and weak doctor death can be prevented by protections.

But we can always choose not to use our abilities, except for Sakura, and maybe me or Navi, that would be a max 1 death night probably.

2) If we do the circle voting:
Drezi > beeboy > CTh > Navizel > Sakura > Sonatora > Drezi

Someone dies for sure, [Cth, Navi, Drezi] one of us probably, since Beeboy, CTh or Sonatora are the likely killing roles, scum might get a kill too, Sonatora probably get's protected. Weak doctor can die too if targeting scum and not having protection, that's not that likely tough.

Whoever ends up with their targets dead becomes suspicious, since scum's target is guaranteed not to be protected. But it could be weak doc death or being CPR/Quack, or scum going for a not guaranteed kill to frame so everyone remains a suspect.

It's impossible to go through every scenario, I'll just try a few to see how much info we'd get.

Assume Sonatora is scum and killed me, beeboy is Quack and killed CTh.
What we see: Drezi dies, CTh dies. Player's left: Beeboy, Navi, Sonatora, Sakura.
Possible wrong cases
-Beeboy is scum and killed CTh + Sonatora is Quack / I was weak doc and Sonatora was jailed or VT.
-Navi is scum and killed me + Sonatora is VT or Quack, CTh is weak doc / Beeboy is Quack, Sonatora VT.
...there are probably more I got tired at this point.

If someone does more cases that would be welcome, from my small sample it looks like there are too many factors, and we can't really pintpoint scum this way.

Even if it doesn't give that much info, there's not much of a drawback to doing it though, since if CTh is scum than probably beeboy is the killing role and he'll just kill CTh, so we still win. Except if Navi is the Quack/CPR and Sonatora is Jailer, or I am the Quack/CPR and Navi is the Jailer (around 10%?). In that case Beeboy/Sakura dies + someone can get NK-d. Welp.

But if it IS beeboy I can still possibly Jail his kill and then we don't win even if it's CTh..

If I was scum I would have hammered to stop discussion

Scum doesn't know which doctors protect and which don't either, so they will either kill the one that's certainly to not be protected or may try shoot at someone else, either way the night actions will show us who the scum is, imma go back to the Medical Mafia i played on MS and see how the actions went down to find scum.

Looking over Medical Mafia on MS it seems the original plan was to target whoever was below then it got somehow changed


This will break it up into 2 circles, since beeboy's scumreading CTh he shouldnt have any issues having the chance of getting him killed.

Or is Navizel, well i scumread him too but i know so far that im not a killer so w/e.
Anyway, Please let me know if you like it like this or if there's any changes you want to make to the targetting.

Wait so you want us to vote no-lynch?

Why hope I can randomly kill CTh when I can just lynch him

If we mislynch and take 3 deaths it's game over, it's up to everyone in the end.

I do want everyone to make clear who they are targetting regardless so if they die we know who they were targetting.

We can't take 3 deaths though it is 2 at max

everyone claimed targets so weak doctor is potentially already dead

We also learn if it was a mislynch during the d so we can replan to avoid having 3x deaths

beeboy123 wrote:

We can't take 3 deaths though it is 2 at max

This is false, but

Scenario where we get 3 deaths as shows. I killed off doctor for the purpose of this scenario.

2 of the deaths we had (Both the Lynch and Mislynch) are on the 3/6 non lethal roles which is already very low

After that we all need to target perfectly without any of the lethal doctors or scum being jailed (which is 4/5 roles) which we can also predict. On top of the fact we can change our plans in the twilight phase.

Killing of doctor also assumes that non of the lethal roles have no been lynched.

god I really should have read these posts over before posting them ;-;

2 doctors are dead, Nurse inherited the first one's, the other one targeted CBot so they have a killing ability, so weak doctor is still alive.

Nurse got the power of a mod killed doctor so it is more likely to be a safe doctor than a lethal one

If this is helpful roleclaim: Nurse

beeboy123 wrote:

Nurse got the power of a mod killed doctor so it is more likely to be a safe doctor than a lethal one

Why?

beeboy123 wrote:

Nurse got the power of a mod killed doctor so it is more likely to be a safe doctor than a lethal one

Wait this makes no sense

My logic was 2 scum, 7 doctors, 3 scum roles 3/7 chance.

In either case that would make you easily conf town since there's only 1 nurse in the game unless the last scum or the real nurse wants to counter claim that.

I feel like we get no-where doing nothing. Higher chance of 3 doctor kills + scum kill 2v1 me and sona are the ones that live and we are both to shit and get tricked by scum.

did you read my post where i show all possible night kills?

Weak
CPR
Quak
Mafia

We know one of the CPR or Quak is dead.

Weak
CPR/Quak
Mafia

Those are all 3 possible kills tonight on a worst case scenario.

As much as I want to lynch someone I agree with your logic


Vote: No Lynch

I still prefer to hear from everyone else, if the rest don't like this plan then i'll just hammer CTh. If they agree then i'll vote No Lynch.

I'll just sit on no Lynch as I trust your decision and have no need to not vote at all and waste everyones tiem

No rush, according to the title we still have about 3-4 days anyway.

Can I trust you on this one, Sakura? I don't want to target a scum.

I'm not scum, but if you prefer to target someone else we can arrange that.

\o/ yay 2 votes for me

oh no lynch doesn't count as a vote

just letting Sakura choose what to do for today

Can i trust that at least everyone that is town will follow the list and no lynch? or do you want CTh dead and see what he flips AND risk getting 3 deaths as well during the night if he's town.

what will the plan be if you hammer Cth?

Whoever targets CTh targets whoever CTh was supposed to be targetting, which means they target each other. Other than that, same thing.

Hammer is more fun

Sakura wrote:

Looking over Medical Mafia on MS it seems the original plan was to target whoever was below then it got somehow changed

Drezi > Navizel
beeboy > CTh
CTh > Sonatora
Navizel > Sakura
Sakura > Drezi
Sonatora > beeboy

This will break it up into 2 circles, since beeboy's scumreading CTh he shouldnt have any issues having the chance of getting him killed.

If CTh is hammered and flips town

beeboy123 wrote:

Hammer is more fun

>nolynch
>hammer more fun

u srs

I decided that I should contain my cancer and let someone who thinks things through like Sakura decide what the best option is

I am a leader not a monarch, I offer options, let the town decide what they prefer to do and ultimately follow what we all agree upon.

vote: CTh

Gave a chance to pull votes this is what I believe is the best choice

And that's a hammer.

I swear if Cth flipped town

It was bound to happen as I have been hinting at wanting to do it for awhile

So you rather end the day than wait at least 24 hours for ppl to give input on my new plan?

;-; this is hard

Hello, late for the party again.

Okay, so:

And have fun with it.

I can't believe people voted me off because I replied to CB in D1 and didn't read one post from Drezi.

One more thing, I and Sakura purposed the same method; to let everyone share their target last night so we can resolve.
But there's only me who was told that it's not gonna work, by Navizel and voted me.

Weird.

Anyway, I'll wait and see... it's a good thing to let everyone know my playstyle from their first(second?) play.

I actually only looked at CBot's ISO to look for association tells, but that's about it.

Chamelo_Th, Town Doctor, was lynched Day 2.

It is now Night 2.
All actions are to go to my inbox within ~36 hours. That means Friday, 15th August 2:00AM UTC.

wrong thread ;-;

Sakura, Town Doctor, was found hanged Night 3.

It is now Day 3.
Deadline is in ~5 days, that means Wednesday, August 20th, 02:00 AM.
Also from now on Nights will be only 24 hours long.

what

@mod - kindly fix the shift's over tab, it's confusing me

Thanks.

Thank you based Paranoid Doctor/Quack Doctor/Goon for killing Sakura

goddamnit

If people really followed the circle thing, the other goon is either Sonatora or beeboy.

Ok, thats it

Vote: Drezi

I can't suffer this bullshit either

brb playing league

you serious did you even try to analyze the situation

exactly

beeboy, did you follow what Sakura planned?

Welp I guess it is Sonatora but I want to follow the circle myself and I am too lazy to do it until the morning

Wait why me or sona?

I'm assuming everyone followed

Drezi>Navizel>Sakura>Drezi

Drezi is probably the Paranoid Doctor who jailed me so I can't protect Sakura last night. The only remaining were you and Sonatora.

I protected beeboy last night.

this is confusing

going to post a long one

I want to look things over before I lynch sons too tired to think properly

who the hell is the Naive Doctor

If the Naive Doctor is still alive, please confirm

How would the naive doctor know who he is?

idk. fuck this shit. not going to post a long one anymore

Drezi wrote:

But if it IS beeboy I can still possibly Jail his kill and then we don't win even if it's CTh..

Drezi - Paranoid Doctor. I guess he really followed Sakura's plan and jailed me that's why I couldn't protect Sakura.

it really is between you and sona

reread the thread

Sonatora wrote:

VOTE: SNB

Talk

^omgus vote. SNB voted him and he voted SNB

CalignoBot wrote:

CTs gets a town pass for now. Not all that convinced on it for too long as it is currently.
Gumica is pretty much dead null.
Sonatora gets a free null read until day 2 because I can't get any kind of read from anything he's saying at all.

CTs and Gumica are confirmed town. Sonatora isn't. CB didn't like the Sonatora wagon on D1

Also, here is Sonatora D1

Sonatora wrote:

Second of al, I voted navziel before since he acted suspicious on his first post.

Meet Sonatora D2

Sonatora wrote:

Navizel : Town, for now

Sonatora wrote:

I only targeted Navizel last night since he felt vulnerable. He's also an obvious town so why not.

Sonatora ignored CB on D1.

These are the people who Sonatora voted:
beeboy
Navizel
SNB/Sakura
Cth
Drezi

He didn't vote:
CB (scum)
Frostings (town)
Gumica (town)

Vote: Sonatora

don't jump on the bandwagon yet please.

god, i hate playing as town

beeboy, did you target Sonatora last night? Everything will make sense if you didn't.

I targeted beeboy last night. That's the only thing you need to know

Also, I think that scum targeted Sakura since scum can't do anything to Sakura. The only ones can be involved are the ones who targeted Sakura last night. Drezi's probably a paranoid.

That's what I said. Drezi is a paranoid doctor and he jailed me that's why I couldn't protect Sakura.

Guys you're jumping to conclusions too fast.

I did target you and if I'm jailer that would mean you couldn't protect Sakura, couldn't CPR/Quack kill her, and then you couldn't have NK-d her either, that's for sure. But it's very much possible that I'm NOT the jailer, and it was CTh or Sakura, or it's Beeboy/Sona, in which case, the other one could have been CPR/Quack too. You could also just be the Naive Doctor, which is a VT without any protection and it's still possible that you're in fact the Quack/CPR doctor, if CTh was or Sona is the Jailer since they targeted you last night.

What's sure is that I CAN'T be Quack/CPR, since last day we established that I can only be Quack/CPR if Navi is the Jailer, and obviously Navi is not Jailer.

All I can say I don't have the capability to kill but I can protect people

All I can say is I don't have the capability to kill but I can protect people*