anyone?

Well let's see.

1) If CTh is NOT scum and we lynch him:
If CTh wasn't weak doc and the weak doctor targets scum and doesn't get protected + scum doesn't get jailed and doesn't target someone who is protected + CTh wasn't CPR/Quack and CPR/Quack targets someone who is not the scum and isn't protected by one of the three possible protections, than we lose.

This scenario is very very unlikely, what's likely is that 0, 1 or 2 people die, since NK or CPR/Quack kill can be jailed plus NK and CPR/Quack kill and weak doctor death can be prevented by protections.

But we can always choose not to use our abilities, except for Sakura, and maybe me or Navi, that would be a max 1 death night probably.

2) If we do the circle voting:
Drezi > beeboy > CTh > Navizel > Sakura > Sonatora > Drezi

Someone dies for sure, [Cth, Navi, Drezi] one of us probably, since Beeboy, CTh or Sonatora are the likely killing roles, scum might get a kill too, Sonatora probably get's protected. Weak doctor can die too if targeting scum and not having protection, that's not that likely tough.

Whoever ends up with their targets dead becomes suspicious, since scum's target is guaranteed not to be protected. But it could be weak doc death or being CPR/Quack, or scum going for a not guaranteed kill to frame so everyone remains a suspect.

It's impossible to go through every scenario, I'll just try a few to see how much info we'd get.

Assume Sonatora is scum and killed me, beeboy is Quack and killed CTh.
What we see: Drezi dies, CTh dies. Player's left: Beeboy, Navi, Sonatora, Sakura.
Possible wrong cases
-Beeboy is scum and killed CTh + Sonatora is Quack / I was weak doc and Sonatora was jailed or VT.
-Navi is scum and killed me + Sonatora is VT or Quack, CTh is weak doc / Beeboy is Quack, Sonatora VT.
...there are probably more I got tired at this point.

If someone does more cases that would be welcome, from my small sample it looks like there are too many factors, and we can't really pintpoint scum this way.

Even if it doesn't give that much info, there's not much of a drawback to doing it though, since if CTh is scum than probably beeboy is the killing role and he'll just kill CTh, so we still win. Except if Navi is the Quack/CPR and Sonatora is Jailer, or I am the Quack/CPR and Navi is the Jailer (around 10%?). In that case Beeboy/Sakura dies + someone can get NK-d. Welp.

But if it IS beeboy I can still possibly Jail his kill and then we don't win even if it's CTh..

If I was scum I would have hammered to stop discussion

Scum doesn't know which doctors protect and which don't either, so they will either kill the one that's certainly to not be protected or may try shoot at someone else, either way the night actions will show us who the scum is, imma go back to the Medical Mafia i played on MS and see how the actions went down to find scum.

Looking over Medical Mafia on MS it seems the original plan was to target whoever was below then it got somehow changed


This will break it up into 2 circles, since beeboy's scumreading CTh he shouldnt have any issues having the chance of getting him killed.

Or is Navizel, well i scumread him too but i know so far that im not a killer so w/e.
Anyway, Please let me know if you like it like this or if there's any changes you want to make to the targetting.

Wait so you want us to vote no-lynch?

Why hope I can randomly kill CTh when I can just lynch him

If we mislynch and take 3 deaths it's game over, it's up to everyone in the end.

I do want everyone to make clear who they are targetting regardless so if they die we know who they were targetting.

We can't take 3 deaths though it is 2 at max

everyone claimed targets so weak doctor is potentially already dead

We also learn if it was a mislynch during the d so we can replan to avoid having 3x deaths

beeboy123 wrote:

We can't take 3 deaths though it is 2 at max

This is false, but

Scenario where we get 3 deaths as shows. I killed off doctor for the purpose of this scenario.

2 of the deaths we had (Both the Lynch and Mislynch) are on the 3/6 non lethal roles which is already very low

After that we all need to target perfectly without any of the lethal doctors or scum being jailed (which is 4/5 roles) which we can also predict. On top of the fact we can change our plans in the twilight phase.

Killing of doctor also assumes that non of the lethal roles have no been lynched.

god I really should have read these posts over before posting them ;-;

2 doctors are dead, Nurse inherited the first one's, the other one targeted CBot so they have a killing ability, so weak doctor is still alive.

Nurse got the power of a mod killed doctor so it is more likely to be a safe doctor than a lethal one

If this is helpful roleclaim: Nurse

beeboy123 wrote:

Nurse got the power of a mod killed doctor so it is more likely to be a safe doctor than a lethal one

Why?

beeboy123 wrote:

Nurse got the power of a mod killed doctor so it is more likely to be a safe doctor than a lethal one

Wait this makes no sense

My logic was 2 scum, 7 doctors, 3 scum roles 3/7 chance.

In either case that would make you easily conf town since there's only 1 nurse in the game unless the last scum or the real nurse wants to counter claim that.

I feel like we get no-where doing nothing. Higher chance of 3 doctor kills + scum kill 2v1 me and sona are the ones that live and we are both to shit and get tricked by scum.

did you read my post where i show all possible night kills?

Weak
CPR
Quak
Mafia

We know one of the CPR or Quak is dead.

Weak
CPR/Quak
Mafia

Those are all 3 possible kills tonight on a worst case scenario.

As much as I want to lynch someone I agree with your logic


Vote: No Lynch

I still prefer to hear from everyone else, if the rest don't like this plan then i'll just hammer CTh. If they agree then i'll vote No Lynch.

I'll just sit on no Lynch as I trust your decision and have no need to not vote at all and waste everyones tiem

No rush, according to the title we still have about 3-4 days anyway.

Can I trust you on this one, Sakura? I don't want to target a scum.

I'm not scum, but if you prefer to target someone else we can arrange that.

\o/ yay 2 votes for me

oh no lynch doesn't count as a vote

just letting Sakura choose what to do for today

Can i trust that at least everyone that is town will follow the list and no lynch? or do you want CTh dead and see what he flips AND risk getting 3 deaths as well during the night if he's town.