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Navizel
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Also @mod - "Doctors who protect only stop a single nightkill from happening." and then
"'Protection': Each night phase, you may use a "protection" action on a player in the game. You're not exactly sure what you will do, though."

I'm confused. I'm slow to these kinds of things
Navizel
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Possible actions last night

Doctor protected another doctor or the other scum
Weak Doctor didn't do anything or targeted another doctor
CPR Doctor didn't do anything
Paranoid Doctor targeted someone who isn't the Quack Doctor meaning it can be the other scum
Quack Doctor killed a scum
Naive did nothing duh

We don't know what Frostings' role was but it doesn't really matter because if he's the nurse, nothing will change and if he's some doctor, the nurse will just replace him.
Navizel
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*CPR Doctor didn't do anything or he targeted CB who isn't protected

meaning CPR Doctor and Quack targeted CB is a possibility
Navizel
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Here I go again, not gathering my thoughts in a single post.

Ah, right. Townies can lie too, @Cth. Not only scums. We will not gain anything if all did that. Besides, it really is a stupid idea.

let's say
This guy didn't do anything - possibilities: naive, cpr, weak.
That guy targeted someone - possibilities: normal doctor, weak, cpr, paranoid, quack

Scum can just let the first one do whatever he wants since they're not going to be a bother for some time
People on the second one seems dangerous so scum is more likely to target them.

God, that is such a huge advantage for scum.

Cth is scum.
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I really need to know who targeted who btw.

Before i can make some analysis. Imma check if some ppl already mentioned something tho...for now

Sakura (SNB) > Sonatora
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Sakura (SNB) > Sonatora
Drezi > beeboy
Navizel > ???
CTh > ???
Sonatora > ???
beeboy > ???

Obviously one of the ???s must have targeted CBot, if you did you're conf town so better say so now.
Chamelo
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Town can lie yes, but why?

Since the first Doctor was modkilled in the Day time, I reckon nurse will get the ability to protect, right?
I protected Navizel last night.
Navizel
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I targeted some guy last night
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Cth, how much do you trust me? Like you're so sure I'm a townie so you protected me last night even though you voted me last day? I know it's a RVS but that's just suspicious for me
Drezi
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Nurse becomes the role of the first Doctor to die.

And since 2 roles kill, one prevents scum from making a nightkill, I wouldn't call it "protect", and should be better used on scumreads, unless we come up with a pattern that everyone agrees to.

I'm still thinking about it - going with a circle targeting method would mean that there's 2x 1/5 chance of killing the scum at night, so 36% chance to win the game right away, but 64% chance to kill two townies and since we're going in a circle noone is protected from doctor kills. That is if both killing Doctors are still alive, 4/6 chance (one death out of the 4 nonkilling docs, since nurse replaced the first death). 2/6 of the cases (one killing doc dead) we'd have 20% chance to win the game, 80% chance of killing a townie.

I don't think town is in a position that we need to take these chances of letting two towies die in exchange for a chance to win possibly faster, when we can make a plenty of lynches and pick proper night targets that are not blind guesses like this method.


One other thing I thought of - we'd unofficially vote one person (NL today), and he'd get targeted by everyone. Self target isn't possible probably, but that's not a problem, since if the jailkeeper is on the target he's safe anyway, if jail's dead or is the target than [norm cpr quack] any 2 of these being used means he's safe. So regardless of which doc we're missing (and possibly targeting) target is sure to stay alive, but we'll confirm him as scum or town, since no NK happens if the jailkeeper is still alive and he's scum, and even if it's the jailkeeper that we're missing, we'll still know if he's scum, since the weak doctor dies in addition to the NK. A scumcheck for free (target won't die if he's town) and scum can't deny the conf town because of the protections (unless Jailkeep is dead, or is the target). The only downside is that IF the jailkeeper is dead (1/6 chance) AND the weak doctor is the NK target (1/5 chance), than it'll look like the target is town even if he's scum. There's a 3,33% chance of this happening.

Well maybe I forgot to take something into account and this is completely useless, let me know what you think anyway.
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Actually scum can't kill the target under any circumstances, since there's still the +1 protection of the weak doc to cover it.
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Bah, scum could just choose not to NK anyone, to make it look like scum was jailed. But there's still the weak doctor dieing, unless he's the one we're missing (1/6 chance).
Chamelo
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Navizel wrote:

Cth, how much do you trust me? Like you're so sure I'm a townie so you protected me last night even though you voted me last day? I know it's a RVS but that's just suspicious for me
I could be a Quack Doctor. :roll:
Yes, my target is completely random.
Chamelo
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And you're not dead, so I'm not a Quack Doctor or the other Doctor protected you from me.
Drezi
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Yeah and we have no way to know if the weak doc died because we targeted scum and he chose not to Nk anyone (if jail dead), or it was a simple NK, so it's not gonna work, just ignore the second half of my post there.
Zexion
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Navizel wrote:

@mod: Let's say Frostings was nurse, will he show as "Frostings, Nurse, modkilled" or "Frostings, Town Doctor, modkilled"?
Nurse flips as nurse. So it would be the first one.

Navizel wrote:

Also @mod - "Doctors who protect only stop a single nightkill from happening."
Let me explain with an example: a player is targeted by the mafia, the quack doctor and the normal doctor. Two people are trying to kill that player and one to protect him, therefore, the player dies because the normal doctor is able to stop only one of them.

Navizel wrote:

Also @mod "'Protection': Each night phase, you may use a "protection" action on a player in the game. You're not exactly sure what you will do, though."

I'm confused. I'm slow to these kinds of things
That only means you can use your "protection" ability every night..
beeboy123
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I agree with drezi (unless I misunderstood) that doing a protecting everyone in a circle is a bad idea and the scum could also manipulate something.

For example: Drezi refuses to participate so scum kills the person drezi wanted to kill. Or scum does nothing and quack doctor (or whatever kills people) is the one the gets accused for being scum
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Strategically protecting is probably the best option
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What I mean is protect who we believe is being targeted, I am aware going in a circle is a strategy.
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Why would you suggest that we protect whoever we think is town? If we lynch today and it's a mislynch the NK target is still only 1 of the remaining 5 people, and even if you get the target right, there's only a 4/6 chance of the protection working (weak, cpr, normal, jail doc)

If you target the scumread 1/6 that the NK is jailed, 2/6 that you kill him, those are better odds, than trying to guess the Nk target right, and hoping that you don't kill your townread.
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Because many people would decide that not using there action is the best option thus lowering the chance of a townie dying for nothing.
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Sakura wrote:

Sakura (SNB) > Sonatora
Drezi > beeboy
Navizel > ???
CTh > Navizel
Sonatora > ???
beeboy > ???
No the circle targeting isn't to try to kill the scum, is to find scum via action resolution.
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But it doesn't declare how people died so the mafia can do nothing and just watch us kill ourselves
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It depends really, when i finish getting all targets i'll show you why, but it's pretty much the same reason how you easily catch scum in Dethy.

And why haven't you said who you targeted yet.
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To whom was the second part directed at?
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beeboy123 wrote:

To whom was the second part directed at?
To you (unless I missed it somewhere)
beeboy123
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Ya you did, too lazy to find it so I will type it out again.

I didn't want to commit suicide along with my inability to read who the scum would target so I did not target anyone.
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Sakura wrote:

Sakura (SNB) > Sonatora
Drezi > beeboy
Navizel > ???
CTh > Navizel
Sonatora > ???
beeboy > No Target
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@mod did nurse have sonas doctor powerz?
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Why did you think predicting who scum would target was a priority during the night phase?
Why did you think it would be akin to commiting suicide?
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frostyling whoever got mod killed
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and I forgot bold

@mod Did nurse have powers last night?
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Le facepalm.
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Sakura wrote:

Why did you think predicting who scum would target was a priority during the night phase?
As a town doctor I could protect them or not die as the weak doctor.

Sakura wrote:

Why did you think it would be akin to commiting suicide?
Quack doctor fell under the category of commuting suicide as it is an accidental town death (bad word choice)

Weak doctor kills themselves.

A long with some other bad things that I didn't think about until now.
Zexion
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beeboy123 wrote:

and I forgot bold

@mod Did nurse have powers last night?
A doctor died (even if it was a modkill), so the nurse inherired a power.
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So unless there are other overly paranoid doctors we should all have targets
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by paranoid I mean careful
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So no one else?...
Zexion
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Votecount 2.03
Players needed to lynch: 4

Chamelo_Th - 1 - Navizel - (L-3)

Players not voting: beeboy123, Chamelo_Th, Drezi, Sakura, Sonatora

Sonatora has been prodded.
Please tell me if you see any mistakes.
Navizel
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I like pringles

my vote still remains

Cth>Sontatora>Sakura>beeboy>Drezi
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Now I'm getting suspicious of Navizel, there's no reason to hold out their target...
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It's bad to not vote my scumread? what
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I've been asking who you targeted last night, that's all (Question also goes to Sonatora but he/she hasn't even been around so much he/she got prodded)
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drezi
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what good would that bring anyway
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Lots of good believe it or not, now i'm just waiting for Sonotora.

While you're around any particular reason why you went for Drezi?
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Now updated!
Sakura (SNB) > Sonatora
Drezi > beeboy
Navizel > Drezi
CTh > Navizel
Sonatora > ???
beeboy > No Target
Navizel
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I don't get beeboy and Sonatora. they probably won't be killed by scums due to their playstyle
I feel CTh and CB are scum
Gumica SNB null
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I'm back from the dead


anyways, the current flow of the discussion led me to a bad hypothesis


Vote: Cth
Chamelo
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You feel that I'm scum.
Okay, so your vote is based on your feeling, right.
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And dat Sonatora sheep...
AutoMedic
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It feels like you're the scum. Asking suspicious questions at the first minutes of day 1. Why wouldn't I suspect you?


But remember, It's just my intuition. Dont take it seriously. I need information
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On other news, I heard that there's another playstyle that involves mafia blending with twon and negating all thoughts


My intuition is saying something
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*town
Navizel
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Chamelo_Th wrote:

You feel that I'm scum.
Okay, so your vote is based on your feeling, right.
I thought it was obvious but whatever. They are my thoughts last night, not today.
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Did you mean: Day 2?

And gut feeling, yeah, gut feeling.
:|

Who did you protected last night?
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And my previous post meant for Sonatora.
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Here's my list


Cth : Intuition-san is teing me that you're the scum.
Sakura :Still leeching me for info
Navizel : Town, for now
beeboy : Aggressive town, but there's no lead that this guys a mafia. Null town
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Sonatora wrote:

Sakura :Still leeching me for info
As is CTs, and I'd like you to answer too, since we're only missing your target, I see no reason not to cooperate with Sakura at this point.
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Oh, my target last night? It was Navizel. Anything else?
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Now that's a hard resolving pattern. :v
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Ok so we have
Sakura (SNB) > Sonatora
Drezi > beeboy
Navizel > Drezi
CTh > Navizel
Sonatora > Navizel
beeboy > No Target

That means Gumica was CPR/Quack doctor and it was him who killed CBot since noone targeted him, and Gumica was killed by scum (not the other kill capable doc or being weak doc), since noone targeted Gumica and CBot wouldn't have died if he was weak doc.

So what people CAN'T be are:
Sakura: CPR/Quack (since noone else targeted Sonatora who could have saved him)
Drezi: none, but since there's only one killing role left it's not probable that I have it and Navi is the Jailer at the same time.
Navi: none, being a killing role is a bit more probable, since two people could have jailed him.
CTh: none, being protective or killing is a lot more probable, since Navi was targeted by two people so either 2 nonkilling or 1 killing 1 protective among them.
Sonatora: same as CTh.

So what we can figure of this for sure is that we should have Sakura protect a townread, that she feels would get NK-d.
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Sakura: CPR/Quack (since noone else targeted Sonatora who could have saved him, and noone targeted Sakura who could have jailed the kill*)
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So it's the line from the list of what she CAN'T be, to avoid confusion.
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I only targeted Navizel last night since he felt vulnerable. He's also an obvious town so why not.
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Wait.
We forget that Frosting could be CPR doctor or Quack doctor.
You know, Frosting targeted CB and CB targeted Frosting.
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What?

Frosting was modkilled D1, and Nurse got his powers (or he was nurse), so we went into N1 with the 6 doctor roles.
Chamelo
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Sorry, I missed.

Gumica
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No it said Town Doctor, so he wasn't Nurse, the Nurse got his powers, doesn't change the point either way.
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Chamelo_Th wrote:

Wait.
We forget that Frosting could be CPR doctor or Quack doctor.
You know, Frosting targeted CB and CB targeted Frosting.
So you mean Gumica instead of Frostings, ok but I had already concluded that Gumica HAD to be CPR/Quack, and he couldn't have died from being targeted by other docs or being a weak doctor so scum HAD to target Gumica.

Why are you presenting it as something new?

Vote: CTs
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I posted that before read your latest analysis.
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So, I TOTALLY missed that, bah.
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I posted that an hour ago..
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I didn't read.
Zexion
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Votecount 2.04
Players needed to lynch: 4

Chamelo_Th - 3 - Navizel, Sonatora, Drezi - (L-1)

Players not voting: beeboy123, Chamelo_Th, Sakura

Please tell me if you see any mistakes.
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Drezi wrote:

Ok so we have
Sakura (SNB) > Sonatora
Drezi > beeboy
Navizel > Drezi
CTh > Navizel
Sonatora > Navizel
beeboy > No Target

That means Gumica was CPR/Quack doctor and it was him who killed CBot since noone targeted him, and Gumica was killed by scum (not the other kill capable doc or being weak doc), since noone targeted Gumica and CBot wouldn't have died if he was weak doc.

So what people CAN'T be are:
Sakura: CPR/Quack (since noone else targeted Sonatora who could have saved him)
Drezi: none, but since there's only one killing role left it's not probable that I have it and Navi is the Jailer at the same time.
Navi: none, being a killing role is a bit more probable, since two people could have jailed him.
CTh: none, being protective or killing is a lot more probable, since Navi was targeted by two people so either 2 nonkilling or 1 killing 1 protective among them.
Sonatora: same as CTh.

So what we can figure of this for sure is that we should have Sakura protect a townread, that she feels would get NK-d.
Yeah that's pretty much it, Also this means that since who killed CBot is dead then we have 1 less doctor that kills.
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So CTh I have intent to hammer you, mostly based off CBot's associations. Why did you target Navizel last night?
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I'd hammer you but I'll let Sakura do her thing
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Since everyone know my alibi, am I clear on this Navizel target theory?
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Btw do take reminder of when claims happened, Because the people that claimed their target first are more likely to be town than the people that waited to claim, most likely because scum wanted to fake claim something to mess up with town's targets and to mess up their information, I don't take your "No target" claim as a fake claim because since you targeted no one then you weren't trying to mess up anything, I do admit it's harder to find out what kind of role are you tho.

Anyway now that we know one of the dead doctors is one of the killer ones I suppose I could run some numbers again and see whether we should do a circle targetting.
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Sonatora wrote:

I only targeted Navizel last night since he felt vulnerable. He's also an obvious town so why not.

And for those who dont know, thats my alibi
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@Sakura I was second to claim you just missed it
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Second was a made up number
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Weak Doctor dies if it targets a Mafia Goon (and isn't protected themself)
CPR Doctor saves their target from a nightkill, but if the player isn't actually targeted for a nightkill, the CPR Doctor kills them instead.
Paranoid Doctor is the functional equivalent of a Jailkeeper
Quack Doctor kills their target instead of protecting them, the functional equivalent of a Vigilante
Naive Doctor does nothing at all.

Mafia Goon kills peoplez

Ok these 4 are the possible cause of Deaths.

We know that I can't kill people.
We know that either CPR or Quack are dead.

This ammounts to 3 possible deaths Overnight, at 6p that'd be insta lose if we mislynch

Sakura (SNB) > Sonatora (Weak, Quack, CPR, Paranoid, Naive )
Drezi > beeboy
Navizel > Drezi
CTh > Navizel
Sonatora > Navizel
beeboy > No Target

No one targeted Gumica either so Gumica died of a mafia kill.
^
This is interesting so i guess it's time to check on Gumica's reads.

Also i'm thinking on no lynching and doing the circle targeting anyone else agrees?
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agree
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Drezi
beeboy123
Chamelo_Th
Navizel
Sakura
Sonatora

This is the list. target the person below you, if you're at the bottom target the person above you, this means:

Drezi > beeboy
beeboy > CTh
CTh > Navizel
Navizel > Sakura
Sakura > Sonatora
Sonatora > Drezi

This way scum have no way to escape being implicated by targets and we can more clearly analyze the roles. I trust that if i die you guys will be able to figure it out.

That is if we no lynch to do this... Otherwise i'll hammer CTh.
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Oh btw, on other news if we mislynch today i'll be targetting Drezi tonight I know I can't kill Because no one targeted me, so i wasnt jailed, and no one else targeted Sonatora so i'm not CPR, Drezi's currently my highest townread and i rather protect him if we decide not to go along with the plan.
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Sakura wrote:

Also i'm thinking on no lynching and doing the circle targeting anyone else agrees?
I guess so, you can't be helping out CTH as a fellow scum as there is 1 scum left so I feel comfortable doing this.

Worst case scenario is that 3 people die and it a 2v1 against scum (as the doctor that dies by not being protected will be protected) which isn't that bad as long as everyone targets properly. And even if 3 people die the scum will be obvious.
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obviously I won't vote no lynch as I want to hear everyones thoughts before we end the day
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anyone?
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Well let's see.

1) If CTh is NOT scum and we lynch him:
If CTh wasn't weak doc and the weak doctor targets scum and doesn't get protected + scum doesn't get jailed and doesn't target someone who is protected + CTh wasn't CPR/Quack and CPR/Quack targets someone who is not the scum and isn't protected by one of the three possible protections, than we lose.

This scenario is very very unlikely, what's likely is that 0, 1 or 2 people die, since NK or CPR/Quack kill can be jailed plus NK and CPR/Quack kill and weak doctor death can be prevented by protections.

But we can always choose not to use our abilities, except for Sakura, and maybe me or Navi, that would be a max 1 death night probably.

2) If we do the circle voting:
Drezi > beeboy > CTh > Navizel > Sakura > Sonatora > Drezi

Someone dies for sure, [Cth, Navi, Drezi] one of us probably, since Beeboy, CTh or Sonatora are the likely killing roles, scum might get a kill too, Sonatora probably get's protected. Weak doctor can die too if targeting scum and not having protection, that's not that likely tough.

Whoever ends up with their targets dead becomes suspicious, since scum's target is guaranteed not to be protected. But it could be weak doc death or being CPR/Quack, or scum going for a not guaranteed kill to frame so everyone remains a suspect.

It's impossible to go through every scenario, I'll just try a few to see how much info we'd get.

Assume Sonatora is scum and killed me, beeboy is Quack and killed CTh.
What we see: Drezi dies, CTh dies. Player's left: Beeboy, Navi, Sonatora, Sakura.
Possible wrong cases
-Beeboy is scum and killed CTh + Sonatora is Quack / I was weak doc and Sonatora was jailed or VT.
-Navi is scum and killed me + Sonatora is VT or Quack, CTh is weak doc / Beeboy is Quack, Sonatora VT.
...there are probably more I got tired at this point.

If someone does more cases that would be welcome, from my small sample it looks like there are too many factors, and we can't really pintpoint scum this way.
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Drezi
Even if it doesn't give that much info, there's not much of a drawback to doing it though, since if CTh is scum than probably beeboy is the killing role and he'll just kill CTh, so we still win. Except if Navi is the Quack/CPR and Sonatora is Jailer, or I am the Quack/CPR and Navi is the Jailer (around 10%?). In that case Beeboy/Sakura dies + someone can get NK-d. Welp.
Drezi
217 posts
Joined January 2014
Drezi
But if it IS beeboy I can still possibly Jail his kill and then we don't win even if it's CTh..
beeboy123
183 posts
Joined June 2013
beeboy123
If I was scum I would have hammered to stop discussion
Sakura
osu! Alumni
7,979 posts
Joined March 2010
Sakura
Scum doesn't know which doctors protect and which don't either, so they will either kill the one that's certainly to not be protected or may try shoot at someone else, either way the night actions will show us who the scum is, imma go back to the Medical Mafia i played on MS and see how the actions went down to find scum.
Sakura
osu! Alumni
7,979 posts
Joined March 2010
Sakura
Looking over Medical Mafia on MS it seems the original plan was to target whoever was below then it got somehow changed

Drezi > Navizel
beeboy > CTh
CTh > Sonatora
Navizel > Sakura
Sakura > Drezi
Sonatora > beeboy

This will break it up into 2 circles, since beeboy's scumreading CTh he shouldnt have any issues having the chance of getting him killed.
Sakura
osu! Alumni
7,979 posts
Joined March 2010
Sakura
Or is Navizel, well i scumread him too but i know so far that im not a killer so w/e.
Anyway, Please let me know if you like it like this or if there's any changes you want to make to the targetting.
beeboy123
183 posts
Joined June 2013
beeboy123
Wait so you want us to vote no-lynch?
beeboy123
183 posts
Joined June 2013
beeboy123
Why hope I can randomly kill CTh when I can just lynch him
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