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Hanatan - Tengaku

posted 2014-06-04T05:33:35+00:00

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Giralda

1,008 posts

Joined August 2012

Giralda 2014-07-17T17:13:12+00:00

I'll make it AR9 LOL I was kind of having fun with decimal AR

Kihhou change it for me please since it's such a small change and because I'm lazy

Kihhou

1,040 posts

Joined March 2013

Topic Starter

Kihhou 2014-07-17T17:52:09+00:00

updated~^

Yauxo

1,622 posts

Joined June 2011

Yauxo 2014-07-18T14:52:33+00:00

moah updates

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Kin

2,618 posts

Joined August 2010

Kin 2014-07-19T13:11:37+00:00

Leorda wrote:
[Hard]
* Tick rate 2 is too much for this diff because it has too much ticks during gameplay and some ticks are hidden that makes players goes confusing if this a bug or not ye fix'd

01:04:350 (5) - Add new combo to shorten the combo and for new emphase stuff
01:08:746 (5) - ^ both fix'd
01:49:996 (2) - How about stack to tail slider for better gameplay? This current placement can confusing for players reduced jump
02:04:091 (1) - This combo color can blended to default skin of spinner because default spinner are full of blue. Consider to change it by clicking left arrow beside NC button and choose color fix'd

RandomEffect wrote:
[Kin's Hard]
00:58:919 (2,3) - suggetion
02:02:410- I prefer to add a note at this time I can understand why for both, but it's not my intention sorry <_<
02:04:091 (1) - cool!

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Neroh

51 posts

Joined January 2013

Neroh 2014-07-19T13:18:52+00:00

Hi!

I'm not a great mapper but hopefully my feedback could help.

First the Howl diff is really over mapped when it gets to the end point - starting around 02:05:126 - the difficulty after then doesn't really match the rest of the map. I enjoy the map a lot other than that.

Second, oko's Extra, AR 9.2 is good, I really like this map, maybe a slight alteration to the part starting 00:56:850 - 00:58:531, the positioning of the hit circles make it hard to read as a slower tap rather than stream. I have tried slight alterations below to help (let me know if they're bad haha)

For the part starting at 00:56:850 something like this could work:

SPOILER

Then for the part starting at 00:57:884 stacking the notes on the same spot helps to read it:

SPOILER

With this transitioning to the sliders directly under like here:

I hope this can help!

Kihhou

1,040 posts

Joined March 2013

Topic Starter

Kihhou 2014-07-20T05:36:58+00:00

Neroh wrote:
Hi!

I'm not a great mapper but hopefully my feedback could help.

First the Howl diff is really over mapped when it gets to the end point - starting around 02:05:126 - the difficulty after then doesn't really match the rest of the map. I enjoy the map a lot other than that. removed the hitcircle at the end so its not so click intense. should be a lot better now o3o

I hope this can help!

thanks for modding! and for the star too~

Sonnyc

7,753 posts

Joined June 2008

Sonnyc 2014-07-20T16:31:29+00:00

Neta's Easy:

00:32:798 - 틱 넣어보는건 어때요? 나쁘진 않을거 같은데,,
00:58:660 (1,2) - 개인적으로 박자가 상당히 어색하게 들립니다. 가사와 시작하는 슬라이더가 00:59:436에서 큰 박자로 변환되는 과정이 조금 아쉬웠어요. 개인적으로 (1)을 00:59:953까지 가는 긴 슬라이더로 만들면 조금 덜 어색한데 시도해 주시기 바랍니다.
01:58:919 (4) - 연속되는 피니시는 조금 어색할 수도 있지만 음악에 포함되어 있으니 넣는거 고려바랍니다.

Normal:

I also didn't felt nice for tick 2 since it's too much for a normal. I think tick rate 1 suits the custom tick usage enough, but well I'm not sure if you will change.

00:46:505 (3) - Missing Clap at the end.
00:47:798 - Shouldn't the tick also sound at here?
00:58:402 (1) - I personally felt this note a little awkward simply because it was right after a break. Just take this as an opinion.

Kin's Hard:

00:59:695 (4) - I think pulling this to 00:59:565 would sound a better rhythm fitting the vocal. You can feel the differnce of the music with your selection for the similar rhythm as 01:00:988 (2) or 01:03:057 (2).

Yauxo's Light Insane:

00:58:402 (7) - I sugget you adding a new combo for this slider, because this 1/4 rhythm is relatively distinct. Feel free to ignore if you would suffer from re-setting color haxes.

Gira's Insane:

00:49:608 (6) - I think an NC will fit here.
01:14:565 (3) - The current flow with the previous (2) doesn't seem nice since the curve of (2) flows somewhere lefter than at least. Imo stacking with 01:14:824 (5) to make a back an forth beat would be something you can take into consideration.
01:32:281 (4) - Add Finish at the head?
01:37:712 (1) - Add Finish at the end.
01:39:522 (8) - Add Finish at the head?
01:56:850 (3) - ^
02:02:022 (7) - Add Finish?
02:08:488 (1) - Imo this jump feels a little bit to much. Mind making a little more closer with the previous slider? It will make a better end.

Howl:

01:52:712 (2,3) - Don't you think these objects are too close relatively from the tempo of the map? I don't think this can be regarded as an anti-jump. Give some more space please~
01:56:074 (4) - Consider ctrl+G? It will make a better end of your rounding pattern of 01:55:298 (1,2,3).
02:05:126 (3,4,5) - I'm highly concerned about these beats sounding by the slider ends, but well nevermind.

Yauxo

1,622 posts

Joined June 2011

Yauxo 2014-07-20T17:02:29+00:00

Sonnyc wrote:
Yauxo's Light Insane:
00:58:402 (7) - I sugget you adding a new combo for this slider, because this 1/4 rhythm is relatively distinct. Feel free to ignore if you would suffer from re-setting color haxes.

I'll let kihhou decide on that one. I dont mind it being either way

Kihhou

1,040 posts

Joined March 2013

Topic Starter

Kihhou 2014-07-20T19:29:08+00:00

Sonnyc wrote:
Normal:
I also didn't felt nice for tick 2 since it's too much for a normal. I think tick rate 1 suits the custom tick usage enough, but well I'm not sure if you will change. i have hitsounds on places where i need tick 2
00:46:505 (3) - Missing Clap at the end. oops
00:47:798 - Shouldn't the tick also sound at here? doesnt seem right
00:58:402 (1) - I personally felt this note a little awkward simply because it was right after a break. Just take this as an opinion.ill leave it here for now since its at the large tick and feels fine to me
Howl:
01:52:712 (2,3) - Don't you think these objects are too close relatively from the tempo of the map? I don't think this can be regarded as an anti-jump. Give some more space please~ fixed
01:56:074 (4) - Consider ctrl+G? It will make a better end of your rounding pattern of 01:55:298 (1,2,3). ok
02:05:126 (3,4,5) - I'm highly concerned about these beats sounding by the slider ends, but well nevermind.._."

thanks for modding!

Last edited by Kihhou 2014-08-05T23:49:21+00:00, edited 2 times in total.

-Nya-

2,133 posts

Joined December 2011

-Nya- 2014-07-22T18:59:34+00:00

Hey! From my modding queue.
I only modded the Easy, Normal and Hard. The rest is too hard for me to mod.
Well, here's my mod:

Neta's Easy:
1) 00:18:057~ Blanket this slider with this slider: 00:17:022 ? If you do, stack this slider: 00:18:057 on this hitcircle: 00:16:505.
2) 01:15:988~ I suggest blanketing this hitcircle with this slider: 01:14:953.
3) 01:16:505~ Same goes for this hitcircle. In the end the entire thing will look like this:

Picture

4) 01:19:091 and 01:21:160~ Mirror these two sliders instead?
5) 01:24:264~ Maybe move this slider a bit so everything is one straight line. Like this:

Picture

6) 01:41:850~ Perhaps blanket this hitcircle better with this slider: 01:43:919.
7) 01:49:091~ Blanket this slider with this slider: 01:48:057.

Picture

8) 02:00:470~ Blanket this hitcircle as well.

Picture

Normal:
1) 00:38:294~ Rather turn this slider the other way to somehow blanket this slider: 00:37:970. Like this:

Picture

2) 00:40:686~ Blanket this slider with this slider: 00:39:781 ?
3) 01:10:298~ Rather do this?

Picture

I think it looks better this way.
4) 01:53:229~ And maybe do this here:

Picture

5) 01:58:402~ Remove NC here, and then add NC here: 01:58:919.

Kin's Hard:
1) 00:39:781~ Stack this slider on this slider: 00:38:229.
2) 00:43:919 and 00:44:824~ Mirror these two sliders.
3) 01:03:057~ Blanket this slider with this slider: 01:03:445 instead?

Picture

4) 01:06:677~ Remove NC here, and then add NC here: 01:06:936.
5) Maybe more blanketing.
I didn't see any other problems. Great diff.

Overall, great mapset.
Good Luck!

Okoratu

Nomination Assessment Team / Elite Nominator

4,913 posts

Joined May 2012

Okoratu 2014-07-25T22:57:41+00:00

Neroh wrote:
Hi! ➥ Hi!

Second, oko's Extra, AR 9.2 is good ✘ Experimented many times with either 9.2 or 9.3 and reached 9.3 as my preference to be fitting better than 9.2, I really like this map, maybe a slight alteration to the part starting 00:56:850 - 00:58:531 , the positioning of the hit circles make it hard to read as a slower tap rather than stream. I have tried slight alterations below to help (let me know if they're bad haha)

For the part starting at 00:56:850 something like this could work: ✔ I agree that this works better than what i currently have so it's not an 1/3 stream with 0.8x spacing, k
SPOILER

Then for the part starting at 00:57:884 stacking the notes on the same spot helps to read it: ✘ I know where you're coming from with this idea but this part is so different that i thought stacking like 01:02:152 (7,1) - or other things similar to this or just normal stacks just don't do the difference in the song any good so I put an NC on 00:57:884 (1) - and i really do prefer them this way, though i can totally understand the point you're trying to make. In the end it's just that i prefer the current stack-like thing over just stacking them in the same place lastly because the method you showed there is kinda unpredictable depending on whether you play with ez or hr for example and i wanted to control as many movements in this map as possible so that's why it ended up like this
SPOILER

With this transitioning to the sliders directly under like here:

I hope this can help! ➥ somehow, yes

Oko's Extra

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Idk if my reasoning made that much sense in the end since it's nearly 1 am.
Also using [b]-Tags around the times you wanna highlight is totally unnecessary

Kihhou

1,040 posts

Joined March 2013

Topic Starter

Kihhou 2014-07-26T10:10:32+00:00

-Nya- wrote:
Hey! From my modding queue.
I only modded the Easy, Normal and Hard. The rest is too hard for me to mod.
Well, here's my mod:

Normal:
1) 00:38:294~ Rather turn this slider the other way to somehow blanket this slider: 00:37:970. Like this: rather have it flow better like this
Picture
2) 00:40:686~ Blanket this slider with this slider: 00:39:781 ? cant and wouldnt reach next note
3) 01:10:298~ Rather do this? did something here o3o not exactly that tho
Picture
I think it looks better this way.
4) 01:53:229~ And maybe do this here: DS too big for a normal and weird flow
Picture
5) 01:58:402~ Remove NC here, and then add NC here: 01:58:919. following NC per 2 large white ticks o_o

Overall, great mapset.
Good Luck!

thanks for modding~

Kin

2,618 posts

Joined August 2010

Kin 2014-07-27T17:38:00+00:00

-Nya- wrote:
Kin's Hard:
1) 00:39:781~ Stack this slider on this slider: 00:38:229. [b]it'll hurt my symetry
2) 00:43:919 and 00:44:824~ Mirror these two sliders. I prefer the parralel end 3/begin 4
3) 01:03:057~ Blanket this slider with this slider: 01:03:445 instead? I prefer to keep overlap
Picture
4) 01:06:677~ Remove NC here, and then add NC here: 01:06:936. I prefer too keep the NC here for the kiai
5) Maybe more blanketing. [/b] here is my mapping policy : Flow>blanket
I didn't see any other problems. Great diff.[/notice]

sorry nothing fix'd <_<
thanks for suggest !

Mystyk

osu! Alumni

950 posts

Joined June 2011

Mystyk 2014-07-28T12:19:32+00:00

Hi! Mod from my queue, sorry to make you wait.

Neta's Easy:
Looks fine.

[Normal]
00:26:333 (3,4,1) - http://puu.sh/arXjD/f99461d33a.jpg - as you can see the middle of (3) is quite close to the upcoming objects, so I would rather give it a different direction to make it easier to read, something like this - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1859761
00:33:315 (5) - add finish to the end of the slider, it's in the music too so it will fit
00:33:833 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - this was rather hard to play, this is a normal so there should be less objects in my opinion, firsty it was weird to play, because 00:33:833 (1) - this slider ends on a red tick and the next 2 objects start on the red tick, it would be better if you tried something like this - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1859787 - it will be easier and more comfortable to play
00:42:367 (2,3,4,1) - same problem as previously mentioned, I would recommend removing some of the hit circles, and this - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1859797
01:00:729 (2,3) - since this is a slow part of the song try to simplify it a little, it doesn't feel good to play if I have to click so much - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1859828
01:37:712 (1,2) - the reverse arrow is close to the next object, which might be a little confusing (players might want to click early) so I would suggest something like this - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1859848
01:42:626 (3,1) - (1) is too close to (3) so I think it would be better if it was obvious that there is a small break between them, you can do this by replacing (3) a bit - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1859856
02:04:350 (5,1) - the spinner is too close to the previos object, I think you should give some time for newbies to react, you could replace the spinner a little bit later - http://puu.sh/arX8Q/f6ea47751b.jpg (of course this means you'll have to shorten it a little)

[Kin's Hard]
00:17:927 (3) - I think you missed a finish sound here
01:02:281 (6,1) - this looks a bit random place for a distance change so why not put them closer?
01:49:608 (1,2,3) - the same here, you used to use the same distance between objects but now it's (for me) unreasonably bigger, I would put (2) closer to (1) and (3) - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1859920 (2 is stacked with the beginning of 01:48:574 (4) - and 01:49:608 (1,3) - were placed about 1 grid to the left and right)
02:02:410 (1,1) - while playing I didn't like that the spinner is too close to the upcoming object so I would rather shorten the spinner a little bit
02:04:673 (1) - I think you shouldn't use 5% soft hitsound here, the song is still quite loud, there is no reason to use such a low volume and actually Normal sampleset (with 80% or 70% volume) + a finish sound on the spinner would be a nice finish for the difficulty

Actually I don't understand why you use 0,2 for stack leniency because most of the stacks can be "seen" and only 1-2 of the stacks look "perfect", you should keep them consistent and use higher stack leniency, try using 0,3 at least.

[Yauxo's Light Insane]
00:19:996 (5) - this plays weird in my opinion, because there is nothing loud at the end of the slider, you should remove the reverse and add another slider (or hit circle) which fits to the beat here 00:20:384 - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1860408 or https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1860412 - just examples of course
00:55:169 (6) - missing finish from the beginning of the slider
00:57:238 (4) - add finish here too because it's in the music (beginning of the slider) and also this is similar to 00:19:996 (5) - I would rather remove the reverse and add a hit circle because it fits better - http://puu.sh/asbQB/5d855dc1a1.jpg
00:58:402 (1) - remove this reverse slider, the music is quite empty here, there are no fast beats that should be emphasized, this reverse slider makes this part overmapped, even with 25% I can't hear anything that should be emphasized X_X
01:01:505 (4,5,6,7,8,9) - this part also feels a bit overmapped, rhythm like this would fit a lot better imo :3 - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1860434
01:14:307 (6,7,8,9,10) - this is also too much in my opinion, this is even named a "Light Insane" but it has a lot of unecessarily fast parts, I would recommend something like this - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1860465 (the pattern is not importnat)
01:39:264 (8) - add finish to the end of the slider because it's in the music
01:45:988 (1) - add finish to the beginning of the slider for the previous reason ^
01:49:091 (5) - same as above ^
01:50:126 (1) - same ^
01:54:264 (1) - same ^
01:56:850 (3) - same ^
01:57:367 (5) - add finish but to the end of the slider (because it's in the music)
01:58:919 (3) - add finish to the beginning of the slider, previous reason
02:00:470 (1) - add finish to the middle and end of the slider because of the music
02:02:022 (3) - add finish to the beginning
02:04:673 (1) - same that I said on Hard, don't lower the volume because the music is loud --> Normal sampleset (with 80% or 70% volume) + a finish sound on the spinner would be a nice finish for the difficulty
Also turn off widescreen support since the other difficulties don't have it either.

[Gira's Insane]
00:30:729 (4,7) - you could place these in a nicer way, imo the overlap doesn't look nice - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1863212
01:14:953 (1) - you could add a finish to the beginning of the slider the song seems to have a loud sound there, it's similar to here 01:19:091 (1) -
01:32:281 (4,5) - this might be better if you changed it to something similar to what you did here - 01:36:160 (3,4,5) - http://puu.sh/atf1b/7fe284e814.jpg - it will fit better to the vocals (but it will still follow the instruments
02:08:488 (1) - try making this a slider and a hit circle, the hit circle will emphasize the end of the map better - http://puu.sh/atfgo/3612548ae0.jpg

[oko's Extra]
00:57:626 (9,1) - I think it would be better if you used a long slider instead of a short slider and a hit circle, because it will emphasize these 3 big beats a lot better 00:58:013 (2,3,4) - and because it doesn't really feel that good to tap 00:57:884 (1) - since it is not as loud as the upcoming hit circles - http://puu.sh/atFix/034c58d591.jpg
well in general this is just my opinion but I didn't really like these kind of overlaps in your difficulty 01:24:264 (4,7) - and especially this one 01:25:039 (6,1) - because the hit circle is put on the reverse arrow (but well it's readable) but because of the overlap it doesn't look appealing to me, so I would try to make it different - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1864217
01:26:979 (5,1) - the same here, it's just a small change but it would look a lot nicer in my opinion - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1864232
00:23:876 (4,1) - here the same and also 00:31:893 (1,1) - so these are just examples it might be intentional but if it's not I think it would be a lot nicer if you changed them

[Howl]
00:29:436 (1) - add finish to the beginning of the slider, it sounds like you missed it, there is a strong beat there
00:32:281 (1,2) - I think you should put the finish on (1) and not on (2) because in the previous patterns you also put the finish sound on the first note, so it sounds weird that it's different now
00:40:298 (3) - this 1/8 shouldn't be there, there are no fast beats, and I understand if you wanted to put this here because of the weird vocals but it would be better if you tried something like, maybe try using 1/4 instead of 1/8 - http://puu.sh/auqKS/3729144ddf.jpg - and use soft hitsound at the end of the slider, since there is nothing loud to be emphasized there, in case you don't want to change this, at least use soft hitsounds on the reverse and at the end of the slider >.<
01:45:987 (1,2,3,4,5) - I don't really understand this stream, there is nothing fast here, it feels quite forced to me, so I would rather delete 01:46:052 (2,4) -
02:05:126 (3,4,5) - 02:06:160 (1,2,3) - 02:07:195 (1,2,3) - and 02:08:229 (1,2,3) - I don't understand why you put 1/4 sliders here it really is overmap, they should be hit circles only - http://puu.sh/aus1e/e74925c2d6.jpg

Also, stack leniency should be at least 0,3.

Good luck!

Yauxo

1,622 posts

Joined June 2011

Yauxo 2014-07-28T18:04:51+00:00

SPOILER

Mystyk wrote:
Hi! Mod from my queue, sorry to make you wait.

[Yauxo's Light Insane]
00:19:996 (5) - this plays weird in my opinion, because there is nothing loud at the end of the slider, you should remove the reverse and add another slider (or hit circle) which fits to the beat here 00:20:384 - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1860408 or https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1860412 - just examples of course The slider thing sounds good, changed
00:55:169 (6) - missing finish from the beginning of the slider sure, why not
00:57:238 (4) - add finish here too because it's in the music (beginning of the slider) and also this is similar to 00:19:996 (5) - I would rather remove the reverse and add a hit circle because it fits better - http://puu.sh/asbQB/5d855dc1a1.jpg added finished, but disagree with the circle change. I think a slider sounds better
00:58:402 (1) - remove this reverse slider, the music is quite empty here, there are no fast beats that should be emphasized, this reverse slider makes this part overmapped, even with 25% I can't hear anything that should be emphasized X_X It's mapping the shiny "bing" sound. W/o it it just sounds too empty to me
01:01:505 (4,5,6,7,8,9) - this part also feels a bit overmapped, rhythm like this would fit a lot better imo :3 - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1860434 Sure, nice example, added
01:14:307 (6,7,8,9,10) - this is also too much in my opinion, this is even named a "Light Insane" but it has a lot of unecessarily fast parts, I would recommend something like this - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1860465 (the pattern is not importnat) It is a light insane, given the high BPM. You can imagine lower BPM Light Insane songs with just as many circles. If this would be 180 BPM, 5ish singletap combos would be just fine, compared to a hard diff where someone would use sliders as opposed to said singletaps. Other than that, Ive applied your example as I really like the idea
01:39:264 (8) - add finish to the end of the slider because it's in the music I thought that Ive set one there. fixed
01:45:988 (1) - add finish to the beginning of the slider for the previous reason ^ changed
01:49:091 (5) - same as above ^ nope
01:50:126 (1) - same ^ changed
01:54:264 (1) - same ^ changed
01:56:850 (3) - same ^ nope
01:57:367 (5) - add finish but to the end of the slider (because it's in the music)
01:58:919 (3) - add finish to the beginning of the slider, previous reason
02:00:470 (1) - add finish to the middle and end of the slider because of the music I dont think that they're necessary. The normal hits are pretty strong already and I really dislike finish spam
02:02:022 (3) - add finish to the beginning changed
02:04:673 (1) - same that I said on Hard, don't lower the volume because the music is loud --> Normal sampleset (with 80% or 70% volume) + a finish sound on the spinner would be a nice finish for the difficultyIt is at 70% and has a finish? Iam confused x:
Also turn off widescreen support since the other difficulties don't have it either. changed

Thanks for modding

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Kihhou

1,040 posts

Joined March 2013

Topic Starter

Kihhou 2014-07-28T19:30:28+00:00

Mystyk wrote:
Hi! Mod from my queue, sorry to make you wait.

[Normal]
00:26:333 (3,4,1) - http://puu.sh/arXjD/f99461d33a.jpg - as you can see the middle of (3) is quite close to the upcoming objects, so I would rather give it a different direction to make it easier to read, something like this - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1859761it being that close isnt really a problem
00:33:315 (5) - add finish to the end of the slider, it's in the music too so it will fit
00:33:833 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - this was rather hard to play, this is a normal so there should be less objects in my opinion, firsty it was weird to play, because 00:33:833 (1) - this slider ends on a red tick and the next 2 objects start on the red tick, it would be better if you tried something like this - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1859787 - it will be easier and more comfortable to play it is a tiny bit hard for a normal but i believe it fits the diff spread to the hard diff, otherwise the gap between hard and normal will be pretty significant
00:42:367 (2,3,4,1) - same problem as previously mentioned, I would recommend removing some of the hit circles, and this - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1859797 ^
01:00:729 (2,3) - since this is a slow part of the song try to simplify it a little, it doesn't feel good to play if I have to click so much - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1859828 ^
01:37:712 (1,2) - the reverse arrow is close to the next object, which might be a little confusing (players might want to click early) so I would suggest something like this - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1859848
01:42:626 (3,1) - (1) is too close to (3) so I think it would be better if it was obvious that there is a small break between them, you can do this by replacing (3) a bit - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1859856object doesnt appear til later
02:04:350 (5,1) - the spinner is too close to the previos object, I think you should give some time for newbies to react, you could replace the spinner a little bit later - http://puu.sh/arX8Q/f6ea47751b.jpg (of course this means you'll have to shorten it a little)beginning of spinner doesnt have an effect ..

[Howl]
00:29:436 (1) - add finish to the beginning of the slider, it sounds like you missed it, there is a strong beat there
00:32:281 (1,2) - I think you should put the finish on (1) and not on (2) because in the previous patterns you also put the finish sound on the first note, so it sounds weird that it's different now
00:40:298 (3) - this 1/8 shouldn't be there, there are no fast beats, and I understand if you wanted to put this here because of the weird vocals but it would be better if you tried something like, maybe try using 1/4 instead of 1/8 - http://puu.sh/auqKS/3729144ddf.jpg - and use soft hitsound at the end of the slider, since there is nothing loud to be emphasized there, in case you don't want to change this, at least use soft hitsounds on the reverse and at the end of the slider >.<
01:45:987 (1,2,3,4,5) - I don't really understand this stream, there is nothing fast here, it feels quite forced to me, so I would rather delete 01:46:052 (2,4) -
02:05:126 (3,4,5) - 02:06:160 (1,2,3) - 02:07:195 (1,2,3) - and 02:08:229 (1,2,3) - I don't understand why you put 1/4 sliders here it really is overmap, they should be hit circles only - http://puu.sh/aus1e/e74925c2d6.jpg

Also, stack leniency should be at least 0,3. not mandatory o3o

Good luck!

changed the ones with no response~ thanks for modding c:

Okoratu

Nomination Assessment Team / Elite Nominator

4,913 posts

Joined May 2012

Okoratu 2014-07-28T19:56:27+00:00

Mystyk wrote:
[oko's Extra]
00:57:626 (9,1) - I think it would be better if you used a long slider instead of a short slider and a hit circle, because it will emphasize these 3 big beats a lot better 00:58:013 (2,3,4) - and because it doesn't really feel that good to tap 00:57:884 (1) - since it is not as loud as the upcoming hit circles - http://puu.sh/atFix/034c58d591.jpg ✘ erhm I personally disagree because the sound in 00:57:755 - should already be part of the circlestack in 00:57:884 (1,2,3,4,1) - but i intentionally skipped it in order to make this easier to play and because as you pointed out the sound in there is not as loud, ending the slider on 00:57:884 (1) - would defeat the purpose of the whole pattern in my opinion
well in general this is just my opinion but I didn't really like these kind of overlaps in your difficulty 01:24:264 (4,7) - and especially this one 01:25:039 (6,1) - because the hit circle is put on the reverse arrow (but well it's readable) but because of the overlap it doesn't look appealing to me, so I would try to make it different - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1864217 ✐ your suggestion would again defeat the purpose of this map (as you might have noticed many things are stacked similarly to this so this is totally intentional).. I did move 01:24:910 (5,6,7,1) - because i can kind of agree that the reverse might be too hidden, i added more spacing
01:26:979 (5,1) - the same here, it's just a small change but it would look a lot nicer in my opinion - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1864232 ✘ this just completely defeats the purpose of these custom stacks >.<
00:23:876 (4,1) - here the same and also 00:31:893 (1,1) - so these are just examples it might be intentional but if it's not I think it would be a lot nicer if you changed them ✘ These wouldn't align like it's following these sliders if i didn't do so intentionally

help, i can kind of understand your point but i'm just entirely not agreeing with it.

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Nozhomi

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Joined May 2013

Nozhomi 2014-08-01T23:24:56+00:00

Hi~ ask Oko if he has something who need mod and gimme this so let's go

- General :

Kiai time are different for some diff for an incomprehensible reason (at 01:52:130-). Check this please.

- Holw :

00:32:281 (1,2)- Why suddenly change axe and not continue to make something like this http://puu.sh/aAInQ/397f978e1f.jpg ?

- oko's Extra <3 :

01:54:522 (2)- End slider at x=428 / y=88 for flow.
01:57:108 (4)- What do you think about have it like this http://puu.sh/aAJjj/aacdd3ef83.jpg ?
02:04:608 (1)- End slider at x=296 y=184 ?

- Gira's Insane :

00:21:677 (2,6)- Stack them ?
01:18:833 (7,8)- I know you want to stack it with (5) but that make flow a little weird, but if you want to keep it why not.
01:58:660 (2)- CTRL+G it ? You do it for all other so why not this one too.

- Yauxo's Light Insane :

00:56:850 (3)- I would rotate end of slider to the left to get a better link with next slider (or curve it a little).
01:59:953 (1,2,3,4,1)- Dunno but i would see more this : http://puu.sh/aALCm/3308aa4d76.jpg.

- Kin's Hard (coucou) :

00:24:522 (4)- Pourquoi pas comme ça http://puu.sh/aAMbX/4ff75e7a75.jpg ? C'est plus beau et se joue mieux je trouve.
00:46:764 (2,3)- Je les décalerais un peu vers le bas pour améliorer le flow (style x=224/y=184).
01:23:100 (2)- Je le vois plus à x=196/y=116.

- Normal :

00:20:126 (3)- Why not make it like this http://puu.sh/aANSy/3da5f88221.jpg ? You get a better flow with next circle and you're not out of grind.
01:33:315 (4)- You should place it at x=392/y=360, flow is really better.
02:00:470 (1,2,3,4)- I found really strange to follow voice here. 1/1 sliders fit so much better.

- Neta's Easy :

CS = 2 or 2.5 would be better for a good diffspread with Normal.
00:21:160 (1,2,3)- Why use 4/1 sliders when all other are 2/1 ?
00:41:333 (5)- Place slider queue to x=0 / y=184 to get a better flow with (1) ?

Poor mod because solid diff gj. Hope this help you and good luck

Kihhou

1,040 posts

Joined March 2013

Topic Starter

Kihhou 2014-08-02T05:00:27+00:00

Nozhomi wrote:
Hi~ ask Oko if he has something who need mod and gimme this so let's go

[notice]- General :
Kiai time are different for some diff for an incomprehensible reason (at 01:52:130-). Check this please. kiai flash
- Holw :
00:32:281 (1,2)- Why suddenly change axe and not continue to make something like this http://puu.sh/aAInQ/397f978e1f.jpg ? rotated the pattern 90 degrees rather than flipping it
- Normal :
00:20:126 (3)- Why not make it like this http://puu.sh/aANSy/3da5f88221.jpg ? You get a better flow with next circle and you're not out of grind. i actually like my flow better o3o
01:33:315 (4)- You should place it at x=392/y=360, flow is really better. up and down motion intentional
02:00:470 (1,2,3,4)- I found really strange to follow voice here. 1/1 sliders fit so much better.wanted to follow drums too
Poor mod because solid diff gj. Hope this help you and good luck .

sorry no change :c thanks for modding tho

Hollow Wings

1,514 posts

Joined July 2010

Hollow Wings 2014-08-02T09:02:49+00:00

from Scorpiour's Modding Queue

Howl

00:33:445 (3,1) - not stack them plays better, try move 1 to 184,377 maybe
00:39:651 (6,1) - higher ds? move 1 to 98,152 to emphasis the vocal beat
00:47:151 (1) - remove nc, it's not that necessary here
00:58:014 (4,1) - stack
00:58:402 (1) - 256,248? u know what i mean
01:10:815 (4) - maybe ctrl+g?
01:35:384 (4,5) - swap these two is better to me. u can ad
just 01:35:643 (1) - by rorating a bit to keep ur flow
01:41:074 (6) - this arrow's a bit overlapped, maybe change it to another pattern here, for it's not that organizationed and heated part.
01:42:367 (5,6,7,8) - stack 5 to 01:41:979 (2) -, and change the order into: 8675?
some design can be improve a bit imo, like 00:48:315 (2,3,4) - , u can give a deep thought if 4's setting can be better, rather than the stuff u've set now.
flow's good in this map, thou i think u regard it as too important thing. try some anti-flow patterns next time, u'll give a better version imo.

oko's Extra

00:31:505 (1,2) - higher ds than lower? 00:31:893 (1,2) - as well, and so as same parts after this
00:33:574 (1) - remove nc
01:21:160 (1) - a bit offscreen, move up a little
01:38:358 (3,4,5) - why change ds only here? just keep ds as previous stuffs
hmm, maybe u can try to set pattern like this: 01:52:130 (4,5) - just not overlapped by 01:51:936 (3) - , for it's in really high bpm and fast aiming patterns.
others r just fine to me

Gira's Insane

02:02:539 (1) - set this note at 02:02:410 is much better imo
most of stuffs r 1/2 sliders. it plays well but maybe adding some shifts can be more fun in playing, like u did at 01:25:298 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - . idk how did u set the rhythm in this whole diff, but this is a lot enjoyble than parts than 01:21:677 (3,4,5,6,7,8) - to me
generally good map thou, take a star

Yauxo's Light Insane

00:33:574 (7,1) - swap nc set
00:49:220 i highly recommend u add a note here
01:50:126 (1) - change this to a 1/1 repeating slider? thou tick hs is still good, same to other stuff like this.
good

other 3 diffs r fine imo

tbh, Howl diff's style need more practising to improve composing things. hope the setting can be better next time u make maps. other diffs r fine enough to me.

good luck

Kihhou

1,040 posts

Joined March 2013

Topic Starter

Kihhou 2014-08-02T18:33:19+00:00

Hollow Wings wrote:
from Scorpiour's Modding Queue

Howl
00:33:445 (3,1) - not stack them plays better, try move 1 to 184,377 maybe
00:39:651 (6,1) - higher ds? move 1 to 98,152 to emphasis the vocal beat
00:47:151 (1) - remove nc, it's not that necessary here
00:58:014 (4,1) - stack ?? o-o
00:58:402 (1) - 256,248? u know what i mean
01:10:815 (4) - maybe ctrl+g?
01:35:384 (4,5) - swap these two is better to me. u can ad
just 01:35:643 (1) - by rorating a bit to keep ur flow
01:41:074 (6) - this arrow's a bit overlapped, maybe change it to another pattern here, for it's not that organizationed and heated part.
01:42:367 (5,6,7,8) - stack 5 to 01:41:979 (2) -, and change the order into: 8675? did something else here similar
some design can be improve a bit imo, like 00:48:315 (2,3,4) - , u can give a deep thought if 4's setting can be better, rather than the stuff u've set now.
flow's good in this map, thou i think u regard it as too important thing. try some anti-flow patterns next time, u'll give a better version imo.

other 3 diffs r fine imo

tbh, Howl diff's style need more practising to improve composing things. hope the setting can be better next time u make maps. ill try >< other diffs r fine enough to me.

good luck

thanks for modding c: no reply = fixed

Kin

2,618 posts

Joined August 2010

Kin 2014-08-03T17:22:44+00:00

My firefox crashed, and I'm lazy to re write everything ;__;

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Yauxo

1,622 posts

Joined June 2011

Yauxo 2014-08-05T03:19:58+00:00

Hollow Wings wrote:
Yauxo's Light Insane
00:33:574 (7,1) - swap nc set I think the change to the vocals is very strong, so I NC'd the way I did. I dont intend on changing this
00:49:220 i highly recommend u add a note here I dont really think that one fits here. If there's a beat to it, then I cant really hear it
01:50:126 (1) - change this to a 1/1 repeating slider? thou tick hs is still good, same to other stuff like this. Changed and made more easy.
good
other 3 diffs r fine imo

No change from the other mod. I like the straight style of the 1/3 slider as the rest of the combo is straight as well.

laptop modding sux

osu file format v13

[General]
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AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 103378
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[Editor]
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DistanceSpacing: 1.6
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GridSize: 4
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[Metadata]
Title:Tengaku
TitleUnicode:天樂
Artist:Hanatan
ArtistUnicode:花たん
Creator:Kihhou
Version:Yauxo's Light Insane
Source:
Tags:music of heavens vocaloid kagamine rin yuuyu-p yauxo kin okoratu neta giralda
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[Difficulty]
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CircleSize:4
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ApproachRate:9
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sheela

2,651 posts

Joined October 2011

sheela 2014-08-06T00:01:07+00:00

Hey Kihhou. M4M Request from this queue.

Neta's Easy

01:02:539 (1,2) - Rotate them by 33°; move the 1st slider to x:435 y:101 and the 2nd to x:301 y:109 so that this slider can shoot better to the next note:
SPOILER
01:07:195 (2,3) - Make a symmetric pattern by copying 01:07:195 (2) and replacing 01:08:229 (3) with a rotation of 90° clockwise. After, move the slider x:153 y:57. It makes the flow better to the next note.
SPOILER
01:43:919 (1) - How about a blanket when you move the 2nd point to x:303 y:217 and the last to x:222 y:304? But I think it'll change the behavior of 01:52:195 (1,2) .
01:54:264 (3) - Nazi, but move the 2nd point to x:322 y:279 and the last to x:388 y:252 to get the head and tail in-line.

Normal

01:00:470 (1,2) - Move 01:00:470 (1) to x:287 y:351 and 01:00:729 (2) to x:254 y:277 to get a better flow for 00:59:436 (2,1) ?
01:10:298 (1) - Flip it vertically so that slider could indicate that you have to go down because the note is there.
01:37:195 (3,1) - Make a same slider aspect? Copying 01:37:195 (3) and replacing 01:37:712 (1) , then flip it vertically and horizontally, and flip the head and tail.

Kin's Hard

02:02:410 (1) - Reduce the length to the upbeat? The next slider starts too early when the end of the spinner is on the red tick.
[notice]
Yauxo's Light Insane
1. 00:21:031 (9) - Nazi stuff, but stack it perfectly with the next slider.
2. 00:30:858 (5,6,7,8) - In my opinion, the flow in this curve is a little broken. Try this?:
  SPOILER
3. 00:36:548 (4) - Stack it with 00:35:384 (6) 's head? Though, the distance will be different from the previous and next note.

oko's Extra

00:57:884 (1,2,3,4) - Move them further to each other, so it could fit with the difficulty, since this difficulty has lots of jumps, and it's sudden. Or stacking them is okay.

Gira's Insane

Nazi stuff, but stack it perfectly with 00:21:677 (2) 's head.
00:28:919 (8) - Ctrl + G so it could down-up-down with 00:29:177 (9,1) ?

Well, that's all. Any questions can ask via PM or in-game. Good Luck on ranking this map(WHY U NO ALREADY RANKED?). It should deserve a star.

Kihhou

1,040 posts

Joined March 2013

Topic Starter

Kihhou 2014-08-06T04:33:55+00:00

all changes made for normal

Okoratu

Nomination Assessment Team / Elite Nominator

4,913 posts

Joined May 2012

Okoratu 2014-08-06T22:21:56+00:00

Hollow Wings wrote:
from Scorpiour's Modding Queue
oko's Extra
00:31:505 (1,2) - higher ds than lower? 00:31:893 (1,2) - as well, and so as same parts after this ✘ I do prefer the same DS here though since it makes 00:31:376 (6,1,2) - look more even and 00:31:505 (1,2,1,2) - are just copies
00:33:574 (1) - remove nc ✐ removing it from 00:33:833 (2) - makes much more sense to me in this case since it then follows the same pattern as things like 00:37:583 (9,1,2) - etc.
01:21:160 (1) - a bit offscreen, move up a little ✔ done
01:38:358 (3,4,5) - why change ds only here? just keep ds as previous stuffs ✘ for the sake of blanketing and avoiding overlaps, I kinda like that
hmm, maybe u can try to set pattern like this: 01:52:130 (4,5) - just not overlapped by 01:51:936 (3) - , for it's in really high bpm and fast aiming patterns. ✘ I wouldn't use that kind of thing multiple times if i wanted to have 232 bpm 1/4 jumps D:
others r just fine to me

sheela901 wrote:
Hey Kihhou. M4M Request from this queue.
oko's Extra
00:57:884 (1,2,3,4) - Move them further to each other, so it could fit with the difficulty, since this difficulty has lots of jumps, and it's sudden. Or stacking them is okay.✘ I think this pattern fits, idk why i even have to defend something supposedly easier just because i mapped sudden sounds differntly in a sudden way .-.

oko's Extra

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ArtistUnicode:花たん
Creator:Kihhou
Version:oko's Extra
Source:
Tags:music of heavens vocaloid kagamine rin yuuyu-p yauxo kin okoratu neta giralda
BeatmapID:440344
BeatmapSetID:181142

[Difficulty]
HPDrainRate:6
CircleSize:4
OverallDifficulty:8
ApproachRate:9.2
SliderMultiplier:1.9
SliderTickRate:2

[Events]
//Background and Video events
0,0,"ringtingthegod.jpg",0,0
//Break Periods
//Storyboard Layer 0 (Background)
//Storyboard Layer 1 (Fail)
//Storyboard Layer 2 (Pass)
//Storyboard Layer 3 (Foreground)
//Storyboard Sound Samples
//Background Colour Transformations
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Frostings

913 posts

Joined May 2013

Frostings 2014-08-07T19:38:31+00:00

Very bad mod coming in 3...2...1...

[Howl]

Kihhou pls
Why is the SV so high

I would totally give some suggestions to change some stuff in this map, but I don't actually know what works and what doesn't because it's too hard for me.
So instead of giving probably bad suggestions since I am not the target skill player, I'll just say.. uh.. Looks good o3ob

But actually one thing:
HP 6 or HP 5 : Not only is this entire map really difficult to play, but I'm pretty sure this spinner 00:50:190 (1) - is unrankable
Auto loses about 1/2 HP with HR, so either you should change the spinner, or decrease HP drastically

[Giralda's Insane]

>3<

General about the hitsounds:
Maybe my hearing is just bad, but Soft samplesets on object starts between louder Samplesets like Normal is a little ... well, quiet I guess.
Especially in the blastingly loud Kiai. It makes a similar effect to changing the volume to 20%, which, in my opinion, is unrankable
Obviously this difficulty is not unrankable, but when I play it, my ears become so adjusted to hearing the loud hitsounds that even a soft 60% is muted

That being said, this is a really cool map. Style is very nice, it reminds me of a certain mapper

00:21:160 (1,2) - -Nazi- maybe you could make this blanket better

00:26:979 (6,1) - also nazi -- putting these objects so close together is a poor design choice in my opinion

00:32:281 (1) - maybe unintentional whistle

00:47:281 (4) - ^

00:49:867 (7) - ^ ... well now i'm not so sure. Maybe they are intentional, but to be honest they don't fit. By whistling you're emphasizing beats that don't need to be emphasized

01:57:626 (6) - change this slider's body sampleset to Auto, because it's making an unintentional soft clap sound instead of auto clap

02:02:022 (7,8) - I suggest you make this an anti-jump or make it closer together because the spacing is confusing

bad example

Also, serious question: is there an easy way to make all those green timing points? o3o

[okoratu's Extra]

Interesting difficulty

Looking at the entire map in general instead of each individual object:
Not sure if this was intentional (probably not) but your map starts off with unconventional flow (for lack of a better phrase)
For example you have some straight sliders or strangely placed notes, all of which is fine

But then the map becomes... too flowly
I want you to look at this section
01:04:608 - 01:14:177
This is, more or less, one big clockwise rotation

Then the next section: 01:14:953 - 01:29:436 is a repeat of back-and-forth clockwise and counterclockwise rotation

then the events leading up to the kiai, as well as the kiai itself is, generally speaking, one big rotation one way, followed by one big rotation the other way, etc.

If all of this is 100% intentional then ignore everything I'm saying, but to be honest, the excess of rotational flow makes your "Extra" difficulty seem like a Hard with just bigger spacing and faster SV

What I'm trying to get at is not a remap in anyway. The difficulty is completely fine as it is, but in your future maps, you should experiment with other types of flow, or sometimes even don't worry about flow in certain parts to provide more variety and creativity in your maps

Hope this helps in any way please don't kill me oko-senpai

-

mods to the rest of the difficulties coming in like a day or so orz

.

Okoratu

Nomination Assessment Team / Elite Nominator

4,913 posts

Joined May 2012

Okoratu 2014-08-07T22:01:49+00:00

Frostings wrote:
Very bad mod coming in 3...2...1...

[okoratu's Extra]

Interesting difficulty

Looking at the entire map in general instead of each individual object:
Not sure if this was intentional (probably not) but your map starts off with unconventional flow (for lack of a better phrase)
For example you have some straight sliders or strangely placed notes, all of which is fine ➥ I experimented in the beginning but then found triangles to be very very interesting all of a sudden

But then the map becomes... too flowly
I want you to look at this section
01:04:608 - 01:14:177
This is, more or less, one big clockwise rotation

Then the next section: 01:14:953 - 01:29:436 is a repeat of back-and-forth clockwise and counterclockwise rotation

then the events leading up to the kiai, as well as the kiai itself is, generally speaking, one big rotation one way, followed by one big rotation the other way, etc.

If all of this is 100% intentional ➥ The Codename for this thing was oko's Spinner, so yes the rotation stuff was pretty much what i intended to do here then ignore everything I'm saying, but to be honest, the excess of rotational flow makes your "Extra" ➥ We had quite the troubles coming up with "Extra" for the name of this diff difficulty seem like a Hard with just bigger spacing and faster SV

What I'm trying to get at is not a remap in anyway. The difficulty is completely fine as it is, but in your future maps, you should experiment with other types of flow, or sometimes even don't worry about flow in certain parts to provide more variety and creativity in your maps ➥ I like flow though, I will continue to worry about it, but i have moved away from this clockwise thing a bit

Hope this helps in any way ➥ Actually it showed me that you understood what i did there, the only stuff that was probably not my intention here is the beginning as you already mentioned but i won't remap it to fit the giant spinner theme of this because it would become even more monotonous then please don't kill me oko-senpai ➥ How did i become so many people's senpai.

I kind of understand your point but i also like this kind of thing very much and will most likely continue to do things like that, but not so drastically like this

toybot

1,050 posts

Joined June 2013

toybot 2014-08-07T22:41:25+00:00

modding for M4M on this queue (obviously not for the sexiness of hanatan)

I'm not great at modding insanes, so bear with me x.x

[Neta's Easy]
00:41:333 (5) - put a finish on the last beat of the slider? it makes that part feel more complete; you can make the volume lower if it's too loud
00:45:988 (5) - it makes more sense to put NC here..? unless you wanted that entire pattern to be just sliders, but still
01:29:953 (2,3) - make these two circles into one slider, because the voice keeps on a long note, so you'd be able to replicate that with a slider

SPOILER

maybe position in this pattern?

01:33:057 (3,4,5) - make these aligned in a straight line, shouldn't make much of a difference in DS
02:00:470 (1,2,3,4) - i think these should just be in a perfect square pattern
and remember to move that last slider to blanket (4)

[Normal]
00:27:367 (1,2) - make this into one long slider, it'll feel the same as the previous pattern
00:31:505 (1,2,3) - this might be a difficult rhythm for normal... but i can't think of anything else that would fit the space

00:33:833 (1) - make this a circle then a slider, like 00:42:108 (1,2) - . it feels more fitting to include that beat that you don't get by covering it with a slider
00:49:091 (4) - this finish is not really needed... because the finishes are better on the upbeat rather than a downbeat; so consider removing it?
00:49:608 (1) - add the clap? it's still part of that section of music and is fitting
00:58:660 (1) - remove NC, i think it just creates more HP for the player and i don't feel any effect
01:18:057 (2,3) - replace these two circles with a slider, too many circles in the pattern imo to make any structure
01:38:617 (2) - finish on head, same as the other patterns previous
01:44:953 (3) - maybe curve this the same way as 01:43:919 (1) - ?

SPOILER

02:00:470 (1,2,3) - ;;;;; players would probably let go early and get the nice ol' sliderbreak.. probably easier to just make them 1/1 sliders..
02:03:315 (1,2,3,4,5) - move this pattern so that (5)'s tail would be in the center y axis of the grid? so that it leads into the spinner better for both clockwise and counterclockwise spinners

[Kin's Hard]
I think that at least the circle size should be a bit larger, for the sake of it being a Hard difficulty and not a Light Insane one
Maybe CS 3.7 - 3.5 would work? so that objects would not really touch. of course there might be some that do, so if you agree to change the CS, fix those

00:21:677 (1) - Maybe bend this slider like this so that it makes getting to the next slider easier?

SPOILER

From 00:33:833 - to the next part, i think you should lower the volume to 70%, because it's calmed down a bit
00:58:272 (7) - move this more to somewhere around 452|168, because moving more upwards feels unnatural, and it would make flowing into (1) better
01:21:160 (4) - I think you should just make every pattern the same structure, so NC this?
01:22:841 (1) - then remove NC from this
01:23:229 (3) - NC this
01:25:298 (3) - ^
01:32:798 (7) - make this shape the same as 01:31:764 (3) - ? like

SPOILER

02:02:022 (2) - make this just one 1/1 slider instead, without a reverse
02:02:410 (1) - shorten this spinner to 02:03:833 - , the time in between is way too fast for a hard player to hit that slider without being late
plus, it fits with the vocals ^^

[Yauxo's Light Insane]
Oh wait, this is how difficult a light insane is? X.X
you make your finishes practically inaudible btw, you might want to make those sections with them a bit louder

00:30:341 (4,5) - maybe make this into one 1/1 slider (4) and one 1/2 slider after? (5) like this

SPOILER

00:30:988 (6,7,8,9) - these circles that are positioned like a curve can be made better too, like

SPOILER

01:30:988 (1,2,3,4) - might be confused for a 1/4 stream
01:35:902 (2,4) - hm, i think you can put these on top of the slider that goes next after the respective circles. if you do, you'd have to bring 01:35:902 (2,3) - closer in
01:37:712 (1) - i think this can be blanketed just a touch better, move the tail one grid to the left
01:43:445 (1) - this should go in a counterclockwise direction, to fit the sudden change of speed better by adding a change of direction too
http://puu.sh/aHbHa/741cb67a7b.jpg
01:55:298 (5) - make the curve that blankets the next slider a bit better
02:02:410 (1) - consider making this slider feel a bit more special? i thought something like this:

SPOILER

but w/e

[Gira's Insane]
the green lines
00:16:505 (1) - I think it would be ok to add a finish here, because i hear a cymbal in the background
00:32:281 (1) - is there supposed to be a whistle here? if there is, then add one to 00:31:505 (1) - also. but i think you should remove it
00:34:479 (4,5) - ctrl+g? having to kind of curve down after that slider is a bit awkward
01:14:953 (1) - finish pls, you add one at 01:19:091 (1) - anyway
01:24:781 (7) - make this slider the same shape as 01:25:039 (8) - ? it leads in better
01:44:695 (4,5) - curve these a bit more so that they don't look so straight ~~huehue~~
01:45:341 (7) - this slider is a little hard to move into from the position of the circle, so maybe just stack that circle on top?
01:48:057 (1) - finish?
01:49:091 (5) - you might as well NC this, since you do the same combo division in the next part anyway. and it would fit with the finish
01:56:850 (3) - finish here too
01:57:367 (5) - same as 01:49:091 (5) -
02:02:281 (8) - NC this and remove from 02:02:410 (1) - ? it would help to include the follow points in that jump, and not to have any
02:08:229 (7,1) - ctrl+g (7), then move (1)'s tail upwards, like this

SPOILER

[oko's Extra]
00:21:031 (5) - place this on top of 00:21:160 (1) - 's head? since that circle is more of a preparation for the next slider
00:22:453 (2) - move this more around 128|304
01:04:608 (1) - move this so that the circles + the head of the slider make more of a parallelogram?
01:14:953 (1) - add a finish?
01:35:643 (8) - NC this, since you do the same at 01:37:712 (1) -
01:41:074 (6) - maybe add a reverse to fill up 01:41:591 - ? the part feels really empty
01:42:626 (5,6) - if you ctrl+g this, it brings more effect to each note instead of just going in a mainly circular motion.
01:50:514 (2) - change this into just one circle at that spot (1:50:514), then add on to the next stream with circles on 01:50:643 - and 01:50:708 - . 9 note streams are a lot more convenient to play, and in this rhythm there's no real 3 note lead-in to the next stanza
01:52:195 (5) - NC? i just think it's really needed

02:03:315 (2) - ^, and also 02:03:315 (2,3,4) - should just be soft hitsounds i think.. but louder ofc

[Howl ~~meow~~]
AR9.7 is just way way too fast for really anybody who can't read ar10, and plus, it's faster than AR8+DT. I think it should just be AR9.5, it would also create a better spread from Gira's Insane's AR9, to oko's Extra's 9.2 to this
00:20:772 (5) - move this closer to (6), like maybe DS 2.09x away? so that the positions of (5,6,7) look more like an equally spaced curve
00:23:617 (3) - move this to 268|188 to make the star look better
00:27:108 (5) - this would be better placed on (3)'s tail or above it
00:32:798 (2) - them delicious curves
00:36:936 (2) - this should be ctrl+g since really first it flows in better; and second, there's not really much of an accent between (2) and (3)
01:00:729 (2) - missing a clap
01:15:341 (2,3,4,5) - i think this order could be done differently. maybe change 01:15:341 (2,3) - around and same with 01:15:600 (4,5) - ?
01:30:212 (1,2) - shouldn't these be using the same positioning as the previous 4 circles? like at 391|192?
01:42:755 (1) - maybe you could add something to the tail, like a clap or a soft-whistle?
01:43:919 (1) - it would make sense to stack this on the previous slider's tail btw
01:56:850 (1) - add a finish?
02:03:315 (2,3,4) - same with oko's Extra, maybe these could just be soft hitsounds instead? and NC the (2)?

I never thought modding a 2minute mapset would take this long

Good luck on this awesome work! ^^

Yauxo

1,622 posts

Joined June 2011

Yauxo 2014-08-08T00:27:44+00:00

sheela901 wrote:
Yauxo's Light Insane
00:21:031 (9) - Nazi stuff, but stack it perfectly with the next slider. changed
00:30:858 (5,6,7,8) - In my opinion, the flow in this curve is a little broken. Try this?: The circles represent the slider before it
SPOILER
00:36:548 (4) - Stack it with 00:35:384 (6) 's head? Though, the distance will be different from the previous and next note. I dont think thats necessary

toybot wrote:
[Yauxo's Light Insane]
Oh wait, this is how difficult a light insane is? X.X
2014-07-18 04:19 Lust: 232 bpm
2014-07-18 04:19 Lust: its excusable

2014-07-18 04:20 Lust: people need to factor in that object density still increases stars
2014-07-18 04:20 Lust: higher bpm=higher object density
This diff pretty much only consists out of 1.0 spaced sliders with some cirles inbetween.

you make your finishes practically inaudible btw, you might want to make those sections with them a bit louder I wanted these finishes to be there, but not to be the most loud thing there is. These are very bass-y and I think of them as a supporting hitsound, rather than a leading hitsound

00:30:341 (4,5) - maybe make this into one 1/1 slider (4) and one 1/2 slider after? (5) like this I really like how the version atm plays so I dont intend on changing that
SPOILER
00:30:988 (6,7,8,9) - these circles that are positioned like a curve can be made better too, like They replicate the slider. I guess you can see it as a pill pattern? Something like that
SPOILER
01:30:988 (1,2,3,4) - might be confused for a 1/4 stream I see your reasoning, but I dont think it'll be too much of a problem. My diff has not a single stream and 01:29:436 (1,2,1,2,3,4) - already slows the flow down a little bit
01:35:902 (2,4) - hm, i think you can put these on top of the slider that goes next after the respective circles. if you do, you'd have to bring 01:35:902 (2,3) - closer in Maaaybe, Ill think about it
01:37:712 (1) - i think this can be blanketed just a touch better, move the tail one grid to the left improved
01:43:445 (1) - this should go in a counterclockwise direction, to fit the sudden change of speed better by adding a change of direction too sweet, changed
http://puu.sh/aHbHa/741cb67a7b.jpg
01:55:298 (5) - make the curve that blankets the next slider a bit better improved
02:02:410 (1) - consider making this slider feel a bit more special? i thought something like this: The music kinda fades out/down, so a Slider like this fits imo
SPOILER
but w/e

Thanks for modding :3

Hav sum stars

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Neta

536 posts

Joined May 2011

Neta 2014-08-08T07:33:19+00:00

Too many mods...

Sonnyc

Sonnyc wrote:
Neta's Easy:
00:32:798 - 틱 넣어보는건 어때요? 나쁘진 않을거 같은데,, 흠.. 고려좀 해보겠습니다
00:58:660 (1,2) - 개인적으로 박자가 상당히 어색하게 들립니다. 가사와 시작하는 슬라이더가 00:59:436에서 큰 박자로 변환되는 과정이 조금 아쉬웠어요. 개인적으로 (1)을 00:59:953까지 가는 긴 슬라이더로 만들면 조금 덜 어색한데 시도해 주시기 바랍니다. FIXED~
01:58:919 (4) - 연속되는 피니시는 조금 어색할 수도 있지만 음악에 포함되어 있으니 넣는거 고려바랍니다. 이대로도 괜찮은거같아요

-Nya-

-Nya- wrote:
Neta's Easy:
1) 00:18:057~ Blanket this slider with this slider: 00:17:022 ? If you do, stack this slider: 00:18:057 on this hitcircle: 00:16:505. Nope i think it's fine
2) 01:15:988~ I suggest blanketing this hitcircle with this slider: 01:14:953. ^
3) 01:16:505~ Same goes for this hitcircle. In the end the entire thing will look like this: this is cool but i want keep my style
[box=Picture]

4) 01:19:091 and 01:21:160~ Mirror these two sliders instead? how?
5) 01:24:264~ Maybe move this slider a bit so everything is one straight line. Like this: it ruins distance actually

Picture

6) 01:41:850~ Perhaps blanket this hitcircle better with this slider: 01:43:919. ^ same here
7) 01:49:091~ Blanket this slider with this slider: 01:48:057. ^

Picture

8) 02:00:470~ Blanket this hitcircle as well. ^

Picture

Nozhomi

Nozhomi wrote:
- Neta's Easy :
CS = 2 or 2.5 would be better for a good diffspread with Normal. i think it's fine with 3 now
00:21:160 (1,2,3)- Why use 4/1 sliders when all other are 2/1 ? i just wanna give some changes lol
00:41:333 (5)- Place slider queue to x=0 / y=184 to get a better flow with (1) ? i spaced like this to make slider look at 4

sheela901

sheela901 wrote:
Neta's Easy
01:02:539 (1,2) - Rotate them by 33°; move the 1st slider to x:435 y:101 and the 2nd to x:301 y:109 so that this slider can shoot better to the next note: sorry i think it's fine now and i don't want to think about flow problem seriously
SPOILER
01:07:195 (2,3) - Make a symmetric pattern by copying 01:07:195 (2) and replacing 01:08:229 (3) with a rotation of 90° clockwise. After, move the slider x:153 y:57. It makes the flow better to the next note. ^
SPOILER
01:43:919 (1) - How about a blanket when you move the 2nd point to x:303 y:217 and the last to x:222 y:304? But I think it'll change the behavior of 01:52:195 (1,2) . ^
01:54:264 (3) - Nazi, but move the 2nd point to x:322 y:279 and the last to x:388 y:252 to get the head and tail in-line. Fixed with different way

toybot

toybot wrote:
[Neta's Easy]
00:41:333 (5) - put a finish on the last beat of the slider? it makes that part feel more complete; you can make the volume lower if it's too loud Nice Fixed
00:45:988 (5) - it makes more sense to put NC here..? unless you wanted that entire pattern to be just sliders, but still i think it's fine
01:29:953 (2,3) - make these two circles into one slider, because the voice keeps on a long note, so you'd be able to replicate that with a slider i followed instrument... i think you can here beat what i added
SPOILER
maybe position in this pattern?
01:33:057 (3,4,5) - make these aligned in a straight line, shouldn't make much of a difference in DS Fixed
02:00:470 (1,2,3,4) - i think these should just be in a perfect square pattern
and remember to move that last slider to blanket (4) i think parallelogram is fine though

Thanks for mod !!

Neta's Easy

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[Metadata]
Title:Tengaku
TitleUnicode:天樂
Artist:Hanatan
ArtistUnicode:花たん
Creator:Kihhou
Version:Neta's Easy
Source:
Tags:music of heavens vocaloid kagamine rin yuuyu-p yauxo kin okoratu neta giralda
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rui

1,388 posts

Joined February 2009

rui 2014-08-08T09:17:27+00:00

From My Modding Queues

[Neta's Easy]

01:37:712 (4) - 01:31:505~01:35:126 and 01:35:643~01:39:264 consist of the same melody. Therefore I think that the same rhythm is good http://puu.sh/aJs2A.jpg

[Normal]

01:11:850 (3) - Misplacement imo. Move to (376,252)

[Kin's Hard]

00:47:281 (4) - Misplacement? You should use distance 1.2
00:56:203 (6) - I feel difficulty a little. this note Change to slider? http://puu.sh/aJvDM.jpg
01:11:979 (5) - remove reverse. It is not match this song. How about this? http://puu.sh/aJuYk.jpg

[Yauxo's Light Insane ]

00:21:031 (9) - Stack make bad the flow. How about this ? http://puu.sh/aJykc.jpg (make the (6)end of slider,(7),(8) and (9) square. overlaid (1) to 00:21:677 (3) - )
00:47:281 (6) - Why big jump? I feel strange. this note change to slider and use distance 1.0 is better http://puu.sh/aJyYn.jpg

[Gira's Insane]

00:32:281 (1) - remove whistel
00:47:281 (4) - remove whistel
00:49:867 (7) - remove whistel

Good diff :3

[oko's Extra]

fine

[Howl]

00:26:850 (4,5) - Very confusing　change to slider? http://puu.sh/aJEDX.jpg
01:25:298 (1,3) - blanket? There is a need to move (3) a little for the blanket http://puu.sh/aJENj.jpg

I am sorry to be poor mod. Good luck~

Okoratu

Nomination Assessment Team / Elite Nominator

4,913 posts

Joined May 2012

Okoratu 2014-08-08T22:18:20+00:00

toybot wrote:
modding for M4M on this queue (obviously not for the sexiness of hanatan)

I'm not great at modding insanes, so bear with me x.x ➥ lel

[oko's Extra]
00:21:031 (5) - place this on top of 00:21:160 (1) - 's head? since that circle is more of a preparation for the next slider ✘ I like empathizing louder beats with big distance though
00:22:453 (2) - move this more around 128|304 ✔ ye that works took 140|304 though
01:04:608 (1) - move this so that the circles + the head of the slider make more of a parallelogram? ✘ that's what it was originally, turned out that this is the only solution that plays ok for me
01:14:953 (1) - add a finish? ✔ makes sense
01:35:643 (8) - NC this, since you do the same at 01:37:712 (1) - ✔ Ncing is hard
01:41:074 (6) - maybe add a reverse to fill up 01:41:591 - ? the part feels really empty ✘ I like the void it leaves
01:42:626 (5,6) - if you ctrl+g this, it brings more effect to each note instead of just going in a mainly circular motion. ✘ Nearly everything here in this whole diff is going in circular motions though, so I liked that as i mapped that and would like to keep the circles, if possible
01:50:514 (2) - change this into just one circle at that spot (1:50:514), then add on to the next stream with circles on 01:50:643 - and 01:50:708 - . 9 note streams are a lot more convenient to play, and in this rhythm there's no real 3 note lead-in to the next stanza ✘ I see why you would suggest that, but (1) I'm sure this would boost the difficulty a bit and i like the current star rating, (2) starting the stream on 01:50:772 - makes also a lot sense if you consider just how loud this vocal here is
01:52:195 (5) - NC? i just think it's really needed ✘ I understand why you would think that but that'd leave me to completely redo the comboing for the chorus, also i think the NC in 01:51:677 - also makes enough sense so that this could slide by
02:03:315 (2) - ^ ✘ sadly i only have one gray combo colour for this set, so i get what you mean but physically can't do that because that'd lead to inconsistent colours with all the other 6 diffs, and also 02:03:315 (2,3,4) - should just be soft hitsounds i think.. but louder ofc ✘ I do prefer the normal set for those, i already tried soft things for them but ended up liking the way the normal set just sounds more intense here more than that

I never thought modding a 2minute mapset would take this long ➥ If you're not statisfied with one of my answers, feel free to ask me ingame, but i think i elaborated on most of the stuff

Good luck on this awesome work! ^^ ➥ Thanks for so much of your time wow

Okotartu's Extra

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227,62,117367,54,0,P|134:70|74:142,1,190,4|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
117,297,117755,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,219,117884,2,0,P|218:173|175:161,1,95,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
213,303,118143,2,0,P|271:313|312:295,1,95,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
440,188,118402,6,0,P|364:163|322:49,1,190,4|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
472,36,118789,1,0,0:0:0:0:
440,188,118919,2,0,L|369:277,1,95,4|4,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
256,219,119177,2,0,P|238:171|238:119,1,95,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
243,93,119371,1,0,0:0:0:0:
243,93,119436,54,0,B|180:86|153:68|153:68|88:89|97:168,1,190,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
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134,273,119889,1,0,0:0:0:0:
134,273,119953,2,0,P|203:255|235:211,1,95,8|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
243,93,120212,2,0,P|298:55|352:55,1,95,8|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
458,79,120470,6,0,L|426:195,1,95,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
378,310,120729,1,8,0:0:0:0:
340,315,120793,1,0,0:0:0:0:
303,307,120858,1,8,0:0:0:0:
270,288,120922,1,0,0:0:0:0:
245,260,120988,2,0,P|212:211|263:79,1,190,4|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
382,33,121376,1,8,0:0:0:0:
382,33,121440,1,0,0:0:0:0:
382,33,121505,54,0,P|385:103|294:176,1,190,4|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
123,95,121893,1,8,0:0:0:0:
210,6,122022,2,0,L|309:52,1,95,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
461,104,122281,1,8,0:0:0:0:
399,289,122410,54,0,P|345:341|292:225,1,237.5,0|0,0:0|2:0,0:0:0:0:
281,235,123315,1,0,0:0:0:0:
267,113,123574,1,0,0:0:0:0:
159,172,123833,1,0,0:0:0:0:
139,45,124092,1,8,0:0:0:0:
285,24,124350,2,0,P|331:52|334:59,1,47.5,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
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261,186,124802,1,0,0:0:0:0:
261,186,124867,2,0,P|244:228|264:287,1,95,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
396,316,125126,2,0,P|431:287|442:226,1,95,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
464,104,125384,1,8,0:0:0:0:
352,16,125514,54,0,P|276:27|197:107,1,190,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
176,220,125902,1,8,0:0:0:0:
259,305,126031,1,0,0:0:0:0:
259,305,126095,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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360,78,126419,1,8,0:0:0:0:
360,78,126483,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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313,170,127453,1,8,0:0:0:0:
221,247,127583,54,0,P|161:246|107:137,1,190,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
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286,51,128164,1,0,0:0:0:0:
286,51,128229,2,0,P|332:64|383:60,1,95,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
498,109,128488,1,8,0:0:0:0:
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409,266,128746,5,4,0:0:0:0:

rui wrote:
From My Modding Queues

[oko's Extra]

fine ➥ lel

I am sorry to be poor mod. Good luck~ ➥ thanks o:

Kihhou

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Kihhou 2014-08-09T01:56:44+00:00

Frostings wrote:
Very bad mod coming in 3...2...1...

[Howl]

Kihhou pls
Why is the SV so high for fun o3o

I would totally give some suggestions to change some stuff in this map, but I don't actually know what works and what doesn't because it's too hard for me.
So instead of giving probably bad suggestions since I am not the target skill player, I'll just say.. uh.. Looks good o3ob :/

But actually one thing:
HP 6 or HP 5 : Not only is this entire map really difficult to play, but I'm pretty sure this spinner 00:50:190 (1) - is unrankable
Auto loses about 1/2 HP with HR, so either you should change the spinner, or decrease HP drastically can anyone even play this on HR? x.x lol changed to 6.5. shouldnt be tooo harsh though since it's only for an instance and theres enough objects afterwards to heal the person

toybot wrote:
modding for M4M on this queue (obviously not for the sexiness of hanatan)

I'm not great at modding insanes, so bear with me x.x

[Normal]
00:27:367 (1,2) - make this into one long slider, it'll feel the same as the previous pattern
00:31:505 (1,2,3) - this might be a difficult rhythm for normal... but i can't think of anything else that would fit the space meeehhh oh well
00:33:833 (1) - make this a circle then a slider, like 00:42:108 (1,2) - . it feels more fitting to include that beat that you don't get by covering it with a slider
00:49:091 (4) - this finish is not really needed... because the finishes are better on the upbeat rather than a downbeat; so consider removing it?
00:49:608 (1) - add the clap? it's still part of that section of music and is fitting
00:58:660 (1) - remove NC, i think it just creates more HP for the player and i don't feel any effect theres a big difference in the sections and its forconsistency with other diff
01:18:057 (2,3) - replace these two circles with a slider, too many circles in the pattern imo to make any structure
01:38:617 (2) - finish on head, same as the other patterns previous
01:44:953 (3) - maybe curve this the same way as 01:43:919 (1) - ? i wanna differentiate them
SPOILER
02:00:470 (1,2,3) - ;;;;; players would probably let go early and get the nice ol' sliderbreak.. probably easier to just make them 1/1 sliders..nevaa this follows music better imo. the overlaps should tell to hold on
02:03:315 (1,2,3,4,5) - move this pattern so that (5)'s tail would be in the center y axis of the grid? so that it leads into the spinner better for both clockwise and counterclockwise spinners this confuses me o3o but it should be fine imo. its a normal and there isnt really any problem leading into the slider for me

[Howl ~~meow~~]
AR9.7 is just way way too fast for really anybody who can't read ar10, and plus, it's faster than AR8+DT. I think it should just be AR9.5, it would also create a better spread from Gira's Insane's AR9, to oko's Extra's 9.2 to this AR8 DT is 9.66 i believe o-o 9.7 is fine
00:20:772 (5) - move this closer to (6), like maybe DS 2.09x away? so that the positions of (5,6,7) look more like an equally spaced curve ok
00:23:617 (3) - move this to 268|188 to make the star look better ye
00:27:108 (5) - this would be better placed on (3)'s tail or above it doesnt ahve the anti jump effect i want
00:32:798 (2) - them delicious curves mmmm
00:36:936 (2) - this should be ctrl+g since really first it flows in better; and second, there's not really much of an accent between (2) and (3) not the flow that i want at that section
01:00:729 (2) - missing a clap oop
01:15:341 (2,3,4,5) - i think this order could be done differently. maybe change 01:15:341 (2,3) - around and same with 01:15:600 (4,5) - ? aa thats a lot better
01:30:212 (1,2) - shouldn't these be using the same positioning as the previous 4 circles? like at 391|192? ?? they are o-o just curves
01:42:755 (1) - maybe you could add something to the tail, like a clap or a soft-whistle? nuuu dont like those sounds there
01:43:919 (1) - it would make sense to stack this on the previous slider's tail btw not the style im looking for
01:56:850 (1) - add a finish? ye
02:03:315 (2,3,4) - same with oko's Extra, maybe these could just be soft hitsounds instead? and NC the (2)? i dont like how it completely changes and i dont have anotehr grey scale color o3o

I never thought modding a 2minute mapset would take this long

Good luck on this awesome work! ^^

rui wrote:
From My Modding Queues

[Normal]
01:11:850 (3) - Misplacement imo. Move to (376,252)

[Howl]
00:26:850 (4,5) - Very confusing　change to slider? http://puu.sh/aJEDX.jpg dont like that :c
01:25:298 (1,3) - blanket? There is a need to move (3) a little for the blanket http://puu.sh/aJENj.jpg
i have no idea why i didnt. fixd~I am sorry to be poor mod. Good luck~

thank you all for modding~ o3o aiya im getting tired of my diff lol.. no reply = fixed

neta yauxo and oko's updated

Luvdic

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Luvdic 2014-08-09T02:22:23+00:00

Hello

[Howl]

00:33:057 - I really feel like you should map this beat.
00:58:272 (6,1) - There should be a jump between these two objects imo
01:31:505 - 01:39:781 - Id like you to remap a bit, try to put a slider start everytime you use a finish, if you do that, Ill assure you it will play awesomely!
02:08:746 - This is a very awkward ending, Id either end it with a spinner starting at 02:04:608 - and ending here, or a spinner starting here, and ending at 02:12:884 -

[oko]

00:34:867 (6,7) - This place doesnt feel like you should have stacked it, it's not like 00:40:557 (4,5) - where the stack actually plays awesome, anyways, following your pattern, the stack should be placed at 00:36:419 - as well.
02:08:746 - This is a very awkward ending, Id either end it with a spinner starting at 02:04:608 - and ending here, or a spinner starting here, and ending at 02:12:884 -

[Gira's]

02:02:281 (8) - Id put the NC here instead of the next note
02:08:746 - This is a very awkward ending, Id either end it with a spinner starting at 02:04:608 - and ending here, or a spinner starting here, and ending at 02:12:884 -

[Yauxo]

00:47:281 (6) - I feel like this circle should be snapped to the previous slider end (00:47:022 (5) - )
01:01:505 (4) - Slider should start at 01:01:376 - imo

[Normal]

Just use slider tick 1, having it at 2 is very pointless since you already silenced them, and its easier to make people slider break (specially short sliders like these)

00:30:729 (5) - Is kinda weird the fact that all your 2 white ticks sliders have always started at big white ticks so far, except for this one
00:38:617 (2) - How about this instead? https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1909751 (its longer)

[Easy]

Is fine for me

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Amamiya Yuko wrote:
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Kihhou 2014-08-09T17:52:23+00:00

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Amamiya Yuko wrote:
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