1) If, for instance, play multiplayer and I forgot to set a comfortable speed for myself before the game? This could end up for me not so good, because the first 10% of the songs I can not set their own pace. And if II play a marathon?peppy wrote:
i'm not sure this is a good way forward. BPM changes shouldn't be allowed to be cancelled by changing the drop speed, in my opinion. the complete ability to adjust fall rate should be limited to the first 10% of the beatmap or so.
Then, in that case, why bother to osu!mania is a function of speed control? Personally, I see it only one function- setting speed for comfortable playing. No other purpose I can not see.Entozer wrote:
As far as I know, accuracy is based on ms, and not on how "near" the notes are on the judgement line. Unless you mean a different thing.
My opinion to this: I agree with peppy. Scroll speed shouldn't be possible to change in the middle of the song. As how Bites said it, BPM changes are part of the game.
About the very speed and its logic here, no one says. Personally, I wish that I (and probably many other fans of the new mode) did not press hysterically F3/F4/Ctrl- / Ctrl + during abrupt change BPM. This is awkward! Adding binds can do o! M much more comfortable.[Dellirium] wrote:
Just don't change anything, everything's fine now with speed.
Yes, you set it for comfortable playing, but like how we said, BPM changes are "part" of the game. Some songs are classified as "hard" because of the BPM changes. If the bpm changes were somehow nullified, those songs wouldn't be different from other songs with no bpm changes. (Theoretically speaking).Archangel Tirael wrote:
Then, in that case, why bother to osu!mania is a function of speed control? Personally, I see it only one function- setting speed for comfortable playing. No other purpose I can not see.Entozer wrote:
As far as I know, accuracy is based on ms, and not on how "near" the notes are on the judgement line. Unless you mean a different thing.
My opinion to this: I agree with peppy. Scroll speed shouldn't be possible to change in the middle of the song. As how Bites said it, BPM changes are part of the game.
In Taiko and Catch the Beat also ignored some gameplay elements osu! Standart and relative to it makes the game easier, then why in this case will not do just as well? To be honest, I can not say for sure reason why you think so.Entozer wrote:
Yes, you set it for comfortable playing, but like how we said, BPM changes are "part" of the game. Some songs are classified as "hard" because of the BPM changes. If the bpm changes were somehow nullified, those songs wouldn't be different from other songs with no bpm changes. (Theoretically speaking).
Some songs have the BPM changes as part of the difficulty. Take Death Moon 2 from o2jam for example.
I change speed sometines only at start so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯Archangel Tirael wrote:
About the very speed and its logic here, no one says. Personally, I wish that I (and probably many other fans of the new mode) did not press hysterically F3/F4/Ctrl- / Ctrl + during abrupt change BPM. This is awkward! Adding binds can do o! M much more comfortable.[Dellirium] wrote:
Just don't change anything, everything's fine now with speed.
And sometimes I do not know what speed I would be comfortable. Plus, I often like to forget to change it. And I recently love playing in multiplayer, where I have in most cases only one chance, and if you consider that you are going to do here can not change the speed of the game, then I'm all in confusion, what speed do I need to set. *_*[Dellirium] wrote:
I change speed sometines only at start so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Some people like slow speeds, some people like very fast speeds. Right now for 150 BPM I usually set speed 15 or 16, but there are many people out there who might only set speed 6, or 8, etc. For me, faster is easier, until it becomes too fast, for some people, slower is easier. Because this makes a huge difference, it should definitely e very adjustable. However, I agree that the time you can adjust the speed should be limited because speed changes ARE part of the game.TheVileOne wrote:
I agree with peppy. I don't understand how allowing us to change the chartspeed doesn't directly affect the difficulty of hitting the notes. It seems the lower the mania speed, the more like it seems like the mania equivalent to Easy mod only fully adjustable in game.
Balancing concerns aside, I think it should be only adjusted during break periods, because I don't believe that the player should be changing speeds during gametime. It's just not the way a song is intended to be played.