Miyu wrote:

Hey guys o/
so..yeah im new to this whole DOTA 2 thing..i just started playing it
i don't think i can complain much because i play LoL and community wise i'm kind of used to the whole whining and flaming but i find this last match i had really interesting..as soon this guy from my team - BOT lane died (causes: Obviously he was to greedy and ran for the kill but instead he got shot by turret and etc's) he did rq the game we're @ around 5 / 8 minutes along with his pre friend, flamed the hell out of everyone including me since i was @ bot lane as-well. i'm having the hell time trying to pick up to this game people seem to put a lot of pressure on the younger people like me,i really do want to play this moba but i'm just so clueless about so many things and the people i get Q with seem to be just major assholes anyways does anyone have a few tips on which hero's to play or..something? i did look up for a few videos but i think different opinions are nice too!,sorry if i came out of nowhere asking for such thing

Remco32 wrote:

Get better. No seriously, you get grouped at your own skill level.

Soulclenz wrote:

Personally, I'd start off on heroes like crystal maiden or lion, and support the more experienced players until you can get a good feel for the game. You can also queue up with coaches in this game which is extremely helpful, as they are able to draw on your screen, ping your UI and talk directly to you while you play, great learning tool for new players, feel free to add me if you'd like to try that.
As for the community, yeah, it can be volatile. Your best bet is to just ignore the ragers, and take the productive criticism/advice that nicer players give (they do exist!).

Magicphoenix wrote:

Sorry, but this is what playing on EU West (or any EU) means. DOTA 2 is the one game that ever makes me racist and it's because of cyka bljat fuc*%( rustard
($§)%"(!/(§!!!!My tip is to mute them and if possible report. There isn't really much helping I'm afraid Or you just play with friends

Miyu wrote:

Soulclenz wrote:

Personally, I'd start off on heroes like crystal maiden or lion, and support the more experienced players until you can get a good feel for the game. You can also queue up with coaches in this game which is extremely helpful, as they are able to draw on your screen, ping your UI and talk directly to you while you play, great learning tool for new players, feel free to add me if you'd like to try that.
As for the community, yeah, it can be volatile. Your best bet is to just ignore the ragers, and take the productive criticism/advice that nicer players give (they do exist!).

Owh this is great,thanks for the help and tips but btw is there any way for me to join matches with coaches? i really have no idea how..lols

gretay wrote:

umm what number do you mean? friend id or what?

Soulclenz wrote:

Good point, CM is super squishy and dies a lot. Her skillset and tools are very straight forward though, and you help your team just by skilling up her aura.

but her ulti deals many damages it'll be helpful for clashing and her skill 2 to lock the enemies

Magicphoenix wrote:

"Get good" is wtf? Remco? So they're supposed to get to 5k MMR in <1 year so they can finally get out of "their own skill level" hell? I'm playing on 5k+ and there's still flamers everywhere, it's just a russian thing.

Miyu wrote:

Hey guys o/
so..yeah im new to this whole DOTA 2 thing..i just started playing it
i don't think i can complain much because i play LoL and community wise i'm kind of used to the whole whining and flaming but i find this last match i had really interesting..as soon this guy from my team - BOT lane died (causes: Obviously he was to greedy and ran for the kill but instead he got shot by turret and etc's) he did rq the game we're @ around 5 / 8 minutes along with his pre friend, flamed the hell out of everyone including me since i was @ bot lane as-well. i'm having the hell time trying to pick up to this game people seem to put a lot of pressure on the younger people like me,i really do want to play this moba but i'm just so clueless about so many things and the people i get Q with seem to be just major assholes anyways does anyone have a few tips on which hero's to play or..something? i did look up for a few videos but i think different opinions are nice too!,sorry if i came out of nowhere asking for such thing

Remco32 wrote:

Your MMR rating.
Yes, her ulti deals massive damage, but you are slow and have no healthpool so you die without much trouble. And since a new player will be out of position all the time you will probably feed a lot.

Sonatora wrote:

Play easy heroes such as Sven, Juggernaut, Dragon Knight, Death Prophet. Once you get the hang of DotA, you can play semi-hard heroes such as Phantom Assasin, Terrorblade, and many others. Just, please, dont play Invoker. Just dont

Remco32 wrote:

Magicphoenix wrote:

"Get good" is wtf? Remco? So they're supposed to get to 5k MMR in <1 year so they can finally get out of "their own skill level" hell? I'm playing on 5k+ and there's still flamers everywhere, it's just a russian thing.

He meant leavers, not flamers. Those will stop being in your bracket if you get >2000MMR or so.

Remco32 wrote:

I'd say Terrorblade is too much micro for a new player.

bmin11 wrote:

Likely to be the last patch before the TI4

bmin11 wrote:

Likely to be the last patch before the TI4

Sonatora wrote:

bmin11 wrote:

Likely to be the last patch before the TI4

Finally I can play Elder Titan

Pizzicato wrote:

lycan nerf
oyes

Pizzicato wrote:

also jeesus fuck that coldsnap nerf is terrible
it's his core skill at early game

he's not worth the 1st ban anymore

Sonatora wrote:

Cold Snap nerf = Bitchslapped

moncar321 wrote:

> techis will confirmed in dota 2
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOooo TT_TT

Pizzicato wrote:

thanks to that sniper immortal i'm winning mid lane against snipers lmao

Pizzicato wrote:

no there are a lot of people picking snipers lately, and at SEA he lanes mid most of the time so he's easy to counterpick :^)

Navizel wrote:

Try to pick Queen of Pain against him. Works for me, at least.

Sonatora wrote:

Techies: The time of reckoning hath come

Prepare against the wave of russian techies players

moncar321 wrote:

Sonatora wrote:

Techies: The time of reckoning hath come

Prepare against the wave of russian techies players

who have better skill
pinoy or russian ?

Sonatora wrote:

moncar321 wrote:

who have better skill
pinoy or russian ?

Pinoy players tend to focus alot on kills, same as Russians. But when it comes to games, Filipino's tend to master proficiency and damage rather than the main objective.

BUUURN

gretay wrote:

Sonatora wrote:

who have better skill
pinoy or russian ?

Pinoy players tend to focus alot on kills, same as Russians. But when it comes to games, Filipino's tend to master proficiency and damage rather than the main objective.

BUUURN

Pizzicato wrote:

average skill of pinoys are very low but 2 pinoys are leading at SEA solo MMR rankings with 6.5k mmr
haven't played with russians yet so i cant tell

gretay wrote:

Pizzicato wrote:

no there are a lot of people picking snipers lately, and at SEA he lanes mid most of the time so he's easy to counterpick :^)

for me sniper is a hard one for early game , his range omg attack us and i can't attack him

Sonatora wrote:

Skilled Pinoy Players that know's what they're doing (like me, and probably Nav) plays in EU servers. Let me tell you this as a 3k mmr player, russians are a pain in the ass to carry

Sven- wrote:

gretay wrote:

for me sniper is a hard one for early game , his range omg attack us and i can't attack him

no...don't pick sniper...i dunno for full reason...but sniper is the most easiest hero with a high risk chance and also easy for counter....you will know the reason why in TI there's no one pick sniper

dNextGen wrote:

the only reason to visit seattle

Magicphoenix wrote:

Easiest way to climb MMR = Zeus & Wraith King

Magicphoenix wrote:

Easiest way to climb MMR = Zeus & Wraith King

Remco32 wrote:

Magicphoenix wrote:

Easiest way to climb MMR = Zeus & Wraith King

How's that unbalanced?

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Fabi wrote:

Nice history match , whats your mmr?

Soulclenz wrote:

Heh, funny we are talking about Zeus. I can support Magic fully on what he says. I haven't lost a match on Zeus for almost 2 months now.

I wouldn't be surprised if they nerf him into oblivion after ti4.

Sonatora wrote:

I'd be happy if they Nerf Zeus. A suggestion probably to reduce his ults damage but lower the cooldown to compensate

Pizzicato wrote:

how about huskar

and not just minute 30
his 3rd skill is scaling throughout the whole game

Pizzicato wrote:

how about huskar

and not just minute 30
his 3rd skill is scaling throughout the whole game

Tshemmp wrote:

Broodmother and Huskar are the two most useless heroes at the moment (imo).
Broodmother feeds 200 gold so easily to the enemy, the only thing you can do with your spiders is trying to farm the jungle and even then you risk to lose them. And what do you contribute to your team besides your spider push? Yes, you can get solo kills as soon as you get an orchid but in team fights Brood just sucks.
And Huskar needs to be low hp to actually do something.

gretay wrote:

if Huskar i think it depends with the enemy and the player too , if he get many kills it'll be hard to fight him late but if he can't farm and kills he'll easy

Soulclenz wrote:

gretay wrote:

if Huskar i think it depends with the enemy and the player too , if he get many kills it'll be hard to fight him late but if he can't farm and kills he'll easy

The only time Huskar is a threat late game is if the enemy team has no hard carry and only magic damage. If such a situation occurs you're either playing AR or against a bunch of bad drafters =p. Pretty much any carry will outshine Huskar late game.

Also, your logic of a hero getting many kills = harder to deal with vs hero getting no kills = easy to beat applies to pretty much any of them xD.

Sonatora wrote:

The problem with huskar is, even with low damage, his attack speed is monstrous. He can semi-tank late game and still dominate with his W and E. Combine it with his R and he's unstoppable at late game

kagaminelenz wrote:

Sonatora wrote:

The problem with huskar is, even with low damage, his attack speed is monstrous. He can semi-tank late game and still dominate with his W and E. Combine it with his R and he's unstoppable at late game

He is not precisely unstoppable though.
Yes, huskar have ridiculous attack speen and tanky in late game, but it doesn't mean he don't have any weakness.

IMO this is huskar weakness:
1. His burning spear is not hurt at all @ late game
2. His passive only reduce magical damage, it means huskar is vulnurable with physical damage and pure damage. Like gretay wrote, almost all carry will outshine him @ late game.
3. He maybe tanky, but he can outshine a pure tanker because his R need no little amount of HP. It makes huskar less tanky.
4. He is useless when fight the enemy with bkb (linken too though). A smart enemy team will have a lot bkb and linken in them.
5. He really depend on skill to ganking and team fight, it means Silence, Hex, Soul burn, and all sort of disable is fatal for him.

Sven- wrote:

found huskar? maybe we can trust necro's scythe and lifestealer :3

Tshemmp wrote:

Broodmother and Huskar are the two most useless heroes at the moment (imo).
Broodmother feeds 200 gold so easily to the enemy, the only thing you can do with your spiders is trying to farm the jungle and even then you risk to lose them. And what do you contribute to your team besides your spider push? Yes, you can get solo kills as soon as you get an orchid but in team fights Brood just sucks.
And Huskar needs to be low hp to actually do something.

Soulclenz wrote:

We've already gone over why Huskar and Brood aren't that great.

On another note, I seriously can't believe we might hit the 10m mark for the prize pool at Ti4, unreal.

gretay wrote:

Sven- wrote:

found huskar? maybe we can trust necro's scythe and lifestealer :3

for Life Stealer maybe right but umm i dont recommend Necro's scythe my friend said it's magic (i never use necro)
maybe for huskar you need Clinkz , i've seen huskar feed because of Clinkz from the early game
or Sven + Bkb - Huskar = A Pancake

Sven- wrote:

yeah i think so
but even huskar has magic ressistance and necro's scythe use a magic...but necro's damage depends on how much hp enemy are lost...not like another
magical skill like zeus,necro can scythe huskar's ass below 50% on huskar itself(with aghanim) :3

kagaminelenz wrote:

Sven- wrote:

yeah i think so
but even huskar has magic ressistance and necro's scythe use a magic...but necro's damage depends on how much hp enemy are lost...not like another
magical skill like zeus,necro can scythe huskar's ass below 50% on huskar itself(with aghanim) :3

Lemme, explain in his place
The answer is:
No, you can't kill huskar with below 50%.
With bkb on, huskar can kill necro only with 5 second (if the huskar play right from early ofc)

Ah, btw, no offense, and not to act smart, I just need to show a prove because it's against my principle to talk without proof (except lying ofc)

Calculation (CMIIW):
Necro SS + aghanim = 1,2 / HP loss
default magical resistance (all heroes) = 25%
Huskar 3rd skill resistance (lvl.4 @ 44% HP) = 56%, he have 7% for 7% each health missing
total magical resistances = 81%

Usually Huskar have 3000 or more, but let's take if he have 2500 HP (it to make calculation easier)
44% of 2500 = 1100 (He now have 1100 HP now)
Necro SS (Consider his damage type is pure) = 1,2 x (2500-1100) = 1680
But huskar have 81% resistance, so he can block = 1360.8 ==> 1361
You need huskar HP to kill him = 1680 - 1361 = 319
And the lower his HP his magic resist is better :3

It's impossible to make huskar HP lower from 44% without you die 1st. The smart user will target necro 1st while his bkb active

Necro's SS type is magical, so it still reduced by magical resistance.
His SS maybe different from Zeus, but the different is only in damage calculation. While zeus have fixed constanta, Necro not.
That is why gretay not recommend to use necro to counter huskar. Not only ineffective, but also a suicide.

NB: using necro to counter huskar is effective, when huskar still not nerfed though

i see XD thank you for the information

so we must use pyshical or pure damage to counter huskar? @.@ or should we use doom or omni's ulti?

Nwolf wrote:

We need a new voice for Io

Pizzicato wrote:

Nwolf wrote:

We need a new voice for Io

b-but
the beep boop D:

Sven- wrote:

I hope wraith king got a reanimation for reincarnation....so me with my friends thought if wraith king die and do reincarnation it will transform into skeleton king and if he die....back towraith king.....sounds epic for wraith king :3

Soulclenz wrote:

I could be wrong but I think they changed him to Wraith King due to copyright issues, so I don't think we'll ever see Skeleton King in game again =(.

dat big stadium

gretay wrote:

is that a stadium? it's just too.... big

handyg11 wrote:

i wonder if na'Vi can win again xddddddd



still.....
"newbee" sounds like alien group and they are surely tough......my bet is on newbee or
evil geniusess

deadbeat wrote:

do want