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Soulclenz

Remco32 wrote:

Americas qualifiers start in a few hours. Will there be hamburger-breaks inbetween kills and such, just like in American Football?
Lmao. 5 min pause each kill.

deadbeat wrote:

sucks i'm gonna miss the start. gonna have to watch when i get home from work.
i've never seen a ti before. are the qualifiers normally a good watch?
Qualifiers are alright to watch, they aren't million dollar games but they are certainly top quality. I don't get too hyped for them personally though, but I will be keeping my eye on them.
Magicphoenix

deadbeat wrote:

sucks i'm gonna miss the start. gonna have to watch when i get home from work.
i've never seen a ti before. are the qualifiers normally a good watch?
Not the NA one. Lol
On a serious note though, NA dota is simply on a lower tier than, say, Europe or China.

I guess it starts getting exciting around semis, because then it will come down to Team Liquid/North American Rejects/Sneaky Nyx Assassins/Revenge who are arguably the best out of all the NA teams.

Generally, there's every team in the qualifier who have somehow made themselves a name through any tournament, so the group phase, Ro16 and Ro8 should really not be exciting.


BUT: If you still have fun watching dota, go watch :D And the EU Hub is pretty random as s*** so if you want to just chill, you can watch their stream
If you want the tryhard, hype and analytical approach, go for BeyondTheSummit. They commentate, they don't troll =)
yeahyeahyeahhh
lol

everyone in the qualifiers are of the same shit tier. Eu, China, or NA it's all the same.

also EU Hub is.. literally a Hub. They aren't the host for the NA qualifiers. Thats why there is no commentary. BTS is literally doing the casting and such. It'll be complete opposite when GD Studio host the EU.
Nwolf
like how valve is so far behind for the compendium prices now, about to get 4.5 million $ music pack and still no loading screens woo


Yesterday's qualfier games were.. meh. The ones I watched were incredibly good horrible to watch, might be because I always wanted to see how much Isurus gets wrecked in each game :>
Triskelion91

Nwolf wrote:

like how valve is so far behind for the compendium prices now, about to get 4.5 million $ music pack and still no loading screens woo
I wouldn't say they are behind at all. Last year the stretch goals that were reached were given at the last days of the qualifiers.
Soulclenz

Triskelion91 wrote:

Nwolf wrote:

like how valve is so far behind for the compendium prices now, about to get 4.5 million $ music pack and still no loading screens woo
I wouldn't say they are behind at all. Last year the stretch goals that were reached were given at the last days of the qualifiers.
Yeah, we don't see our rewards until later on.
Fabi
ARG iG, what a disgrace :(
Pizzicato
so do i get a compendium or liquify compendium points for rares?
Chipmunk42

Nwolf wrote:

like how valve is so far behind for the compendium prices now, about to get 4.5 million $ music pack and still no loading screens woo
Why would they create the rewards in advance if they may never be reached
Tetsu_old
Liquid+Demon doto best doto.
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deadbeat wrote:

sucks i'm gonna miss the start. gonna have to watch when i get home from work.
i've never seen a ti before. are the qualifiers normally a good watch?

It's a "meh" match. I dont like qualifiers for some reason with the exeption of SEA Qualifiers
deadbeat
I've actually been enjoying the matches so far. Only seen around 15 games though so far

edit: do want
Pizzicato
anybody fell for that +1 scam yet
Soulclenz

Pizzicato wrote:

anybody fell for that +1 scam yet
Not sure what the +1 scam is =x.
Chuan10032
"Out-meracled Meracle" - LD
Chipmunk42

Soulclenz wrote:

Pizzicato wrote:

anybody fell for that +1 scam yet
Not sure what the +1 scam is =x.
http://imgur.com/a/9m3jq
It's a fake mumble which includes a virus/remote access control
Soulclenz

Chipmunk42 wrote:

http://imgur.com/a/9m3jq
It's a fake mumble which includes a virus/remote access control
Ahaha, nice.
Pizzicato
Backfire
Pizzicato, how do you feel about Mineski? Were you shitting yourself during their match vs. Scythe? Or does your pinoy pride not shine?!
Pizzicato


i enjoyed their game vs scythe (while laughing at these casters)
it's been so long since i've seen them play so well it made me cry :')
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Pizzicato wrote:



i enjoyed their game vs scythe (while laughing at these casters)
it's been so long since i've seen them play so well it made me cry :')

Lol, love the part when they backdoored. The goosebumps in there man
Pizzicato
Mineski looking really good
Game just finished against Mith Trust. They clearly got outdrafted but they outplayed
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Pizzicato wrote:

Mineski looking really good
Game just finished against Mith Trust. They clearly got outdrafted but they outplayed
Still, Mineski doesn't stand a chance against major teams such as Na'Vi, Alliance, and Invictus Gaming.

They do have a chance, however against Fnatic and TongFu and this new team called Titan??
Magicphoenix

Sonatora wrote:

Pizzicato wrote:

Mineski looking really good
Game just finished against Mith Trust. They clearly got outdrafted but they outplayed
Still, Mineski doesn't stand a chance against major teams such as Na'Vi, Alliance, and Invictus Gaming.

They do have a chance, however against Fnatic and TongFu and this new team called Titan??
Titan is Orange (last year's 3rd place on TI) just with Yamateh instead of Mushi
Pizzicato
mineski dropped
R.I.P. hopes

Arrow > every team in SEA
bmin11
Arrow too strong. They toyed MVP orz
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Pizzicato wrote:

mineski dropped
R.I.P. hopes

Arrow > every team in SEA
NOOOOOOOOOO!!!!


MINESKI :(

FUCK U AND YOUR TI1 PLAYS
deadbeat
6 million prize pool achieved.
that's pretty impressive
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deadbeat wrote:

6 million prize pool achieved.
that's pretty impressive

Nice

I think the highest in the history of E-Sports
Correct me if I'm mistaken
deadbeat
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deadbeat wrote:

http://dota2.cyborgmatt.com/prizetracker/international2014
few stats
Over a course of a year, our prize stakes just doubled

You can see how powerful the community is when it comes to this

I'm pretty impressed
Magicphoenix
If I'm not mistaken, if this prize pool gets any higher it's the highest prize pool ever in the history of eSports.
Yet again, correct me if I'm wrong, I think 6,000,000$ is already the highest prize pool up until now in eSports.
Let's see though. If the community supports it, it might get bigger than the 2nd highest prize pool that has been reached in eSports so far

On a serious note though, I think with this new stretch goal we have the highest prize pool yet
and hats
AutoMedic

Magicphoenix wrote:

If I'm not mistaken, if this prize pool gets any higher it's the highest prize pool ever in the history of eSports.
Yet again, correct me if I'm wrong, I think 6,000,000$ is already the highest prize pool up until now in eSports.
Let's see though. If the community supports it, it might get bigger than the 2nd highest prize pool that has been reached in eSports so far

On a serious note though, I think with this new stretch goal we have the highest prize pool yet
It's overwhelming that the numbers grow rapidly day by day.

The power of the community shines in this one, lol
Magicphoenix
I now feel bad for making fun of you.
But yes, 6 million is awesome.

Hope they add more stretch goals :D
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Magicphoenix wrote:

I now feel bad for making fun of you.
But yes, 6 million is awesome.

Hope they add more stretch goals :D

Yeah,

Hope they expand the bar.

Hopes at 10 million, they will release techies
deadbeat
Chipmunk42

Magicphoenix wrote:

If I'm not mistaken, if this prize pool gets any higher it's the highest prize pool ever in the history of eSports.
Yet again, correct me if I'm wrong, I think 6,000,000$ is already the highest prize pool up until now in eSports.
Let's see though. If the community supports it, it might get bigger than the 2nd highest prize pool that has been reached in eSports so far

On a serious note though, I think with this new stretch goal we have the highest prize pool yet
and hats
We're far above the previous highest prize pool ever (TI3 :))
http://www.esportsearnings.com/tournaments
Pizzicato
imagine winning just 1% of the total prize pool
deadbeat
yup, new stretch goals are out
AutoMedic
New strech goals sucks. Was expecting a better price but seriously, a a fucking visual update. You have got to be kidding me
Soulclenz

Sonatora wrote:

New strech goals sucks. Was expecting a better price but seriously, a a fucking visual update. You have got to be kidding me
These new stretch goals are pretty nice, especially the favorite hero challenge. I'd love to see Spectre or something get a new voice pack as well, despite her being my favorite hero. Wouldn't mind seeing older heroes like Viper, SF or Zeus get new models as well (I swear to god I will shed tears if people vote for Pudge on all of these and valve obliges to it, he gets enough attention already imo). Updated creep models are badly needed too.

Overall these new stretch goals are very nice IMHO.
Pizzicato
and here i am being a total poorfag
cant even buy a compendium
Mercurial
New Stretch Goals: Shit.
BrokenArrow
Why do I have to download a ~80mb patch every day?
AutoMedic
Lol, bought one.

Its 150 pesos here in the philippines
Pizzicato

Sonatora wrote:

Lol, bought one.

Its 150 pesos here in the philippines
what the fuck
it's 450
if you can buy me one at that price i'd gladly pay you for 250php
AutoMedic
I got it 150 plus a couple of rares. Five rares
Toyface
Unreal the prize pool for the tournament :o
deadbeat
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deadbeat wrote:

Techies confirmed?
http://www.dota2.com/international/compendium/?sidebar
Holy shit

Techies is real
Pizzicato
PLEASE
I HATE TECHIES
GEM IS MANDATORY
Remco32
I like how the goal was hidden and has the icon of a bomb
GladiOol

Pizzicato wrote:

PLEASE
I HATE TECHIES
GEM IS MANDATORY
no more jukerino when techies is around

thank god i still remember most 'bomb' places from dota 1, though i can imagine the first few weeks everybody dying from the bombs.

after that, everybody will simply buy sentry wards and techies will be pretty useless.
Magicphoenix

Pizzicato wrote:

PLEASE
I HATE TECHIES
GEM IS MANDATORY
watch out for shared tangoes boys
Pizzicato
gotta go centaur blademail for that guy
Soulclenz
I wouldn't have donated had I known he would have been added! xD.
bmin11
Gonna dive into an explosive as a Nyx
AutoMedic
Techies = Teemo without poison
yeahyeahyeahhh

bmin11 wrote:

Gonna dive into an explosive as a Nyx
only blocks first hit, ull die from the other ones
Fabi

Pizzicato wrote:

gotta go centaur blademail for that guy
>implying you wouldn't pick lanaya and proc bombs with blademail and refraction
Magicphoenix
TA with blade mail just to kill Techies.
Sweet joy
Pizzicato

Fabi wrote:

Pizzicato wrote:

gotta go centaur blademail for that guy
>implying you wouldn't pick lanaya and proc bombs with blademail and refraction
that's already 2250 (somewhere around) gold .-.
Fabi
there is no price for the joy of it ))))
deadbeat
Mercurial
Magicphoenix
This community is smashin' it.
Holy fucking hell
Nwolf
*waited for the chests to show up*
*I dislike or don't play the heroes that got immos*
*earns money*
*throws more money at valve*
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Magicphoenix wrote:

This community is smashin' it.
Holy fucking hell
Holy shit

They're crushing it
gretay
almost all immos for the hero that i dislike like Puck , Lion , CM , abaddon
i'm just a shit feeder with them
btw my steam id: numbasd
nick: [HTT] Ayasaki add and party together if you like Thanks ~
Remco32
Maybe post your MMR with your ID so we have an idea how skilled you are.
Miyu
Hey guys o/
so..yeah im new to this whole DOTA 2 thing..i just started playing it
i don't think i can complain much because i play LoL and community wise i'm kind of used to the whole whining and flaming but i find this last match i had really interesting..as soon this guy from my team - BOT lane died (causes: Obviously he was to greedy and ran for the kill but instead he got shot by turret and etc's) he did rq the game we're @ around 5 / 8 minutes along with his pre friend, flamed the hell out of everyone including me since i was @ bot lane as-well. i'm having the hell time trying to pick up to this game people seem to put a lot of pressure on the younger people like me,i really do want to play this moba but i'm just so clueless about so many things and the people i get Q with seem to be just major assholes anyways does anyone have a few tips on which hero's to play or..something? i did look up for a few videos but i think different opinions are nice too!,sorry if i came out of nowhere asking for such thing
gretay

Remco32 wrote:

Maybe post your MMR with your ID so we have an idea how skilled you are.
do you mean Ranked Match rank?i haven't play many ranked match but my skill depends with my enemy if i find a pro using a shit job like riki , snip , etc and hard early farm and bad teammates (for the hero and maybe gameplay) i can be a real feeder if i use carry / tank / initiator because i often start the war and i'm the first one died but my team win the clash sometimes xD so just party together and if you see i'm a noob you can delete me from your friend list.
I'm not a pro and if anyone says i noob i'll accept that ~
Remco32

Miyu wrote:

Hey guys o/
so..yeah im new to this whole DOTA 2 thing..i just started playing it
i don't think i can complain much because i play LoL and community wise i'm kind of used to the whole whining and flaming but i find this last match i had really interesting..as soon this guy from my team - BOT lane died (causes: Obviously he was to greedy and ran for the kill but instead he got shot by turret and etc's) he did rq the game we're @ around 5 / 8 minutes along with his pre friend, flamed the hell out of everyone including me since i was @ bot lane as-well. i'm having the hell time trying to pick up to this game people seem to put a lot of pressure on the younger people like me,i really do want to play this moba but i'm just so clueless about so many things and the people i get Q with seem to be just major assholes anyways does anyone have a few tips on which hero's to play or..something? i did look up for a few videos but i think different opinions are nice too!,sorry if i came out of nowhere asking for such thing
People ragequiting will stop once you git gud or simply get out of the new player pool
For general advice, try typing in a normal fontsize and colour.

gretay wrote:

Remco32 wrote:

Maybe post your MMR with your ID so we have an idea how skilled you are.
do you mean Ranked Match rank?i haven't play many ranked match but my skill depends with my enemy if i find a pro using a shit job like riki , snip , etc and hard early farm and bad teammates (for the hero and maybe gameplay) i can be a real feeder if i use carry / tank / initiator because i often start the war and i'm the first one died but my team win the clash sometimes xD so just party together and if you see i'm a noob you can delete me from your friend list.
I'm not a pro and if anyone says i noob i'll accept that ~
I just want a number so we can have a general idea.
druidxd
Got all Immos, 3 duplicates, and 3 very rare dragon knight ones, sold 2, got almost all my compendium money back, NICE.
Soulclenz

Miyu wrote:

Hey guys o/
so..yeah im new to this whole DOTA 2 thing..i just started playing it
i don't think i can complain much because i play LoL and community wise i'm kind of used to the whole whining and flaming but i find this last match i had really interesting..as soon this guy from my team - BOT lane died (causes: Obviously he was to greedy and ran for the kill but instead he got shot by turret and etc's) he did rq the game we're @ around 5 / 8 minutes along with his pre friend, flamed the hell out of everyone including me since i was @ bot lane as-well. i'm having the hell time trying to pick up to this game people seem to put a lot of pressure on the younger people like me,i really do want to play this moba but i'm just so clueless about so many things and the people i get Q with seem to be just major assholes anyways does anyone have a few tips on which hero's to play or..something? i did look up for a few videos but i think different opinions are nice too!,sorry if i came out of nowhere asking for such thing
Personally, I'd start off on heroes like crystal maiden or lion, and support the more experienced players until you can get a good feel for the game. You can also queue up with coaches in this game which is extremely helpful, as they are able to draw on your screen, ping your UI and talk directly to you while you play, great learning tool for new players, feel free to add me if you'd like to try that.

As for the community, yeah, it can be volatile. Your best bet is to just ignore the ragers, and take the productive criticism/advice that nicer players give (they do exist!).
Remco32
I wouldn't recommend squishy maiden for new players.
Lich, Warlock, Lion, Shadow Shaman are quite simple supports.
Navizel
Are there any ways to avoid players who don't want to finish the game? It's really infuriating.
Remco32
Get better. No seriously, you get grouped at your own skill level.
Navizel
Well, I'm just new to the game sooo
Soulclenz

Remco32 wrote:

I wouldn't recommend squishy maiden for new players.
Lich, Warlock, Lion, Shadow Shaman are quite simple supports.
Good point, CM is super squishy and dies a lot. Her skillset and tools are very straight forward though, and you help your team just by skilling up her aura.
gretay

Remco32 wrote:

I just want a number so we can have a general idea.
umm what number do you mean? friend id or what?

Soulclenz wrote:

Remco32 wrote:

I wouldn't recommend squishy maiden for new players.
Lich, Warlock, Lion, Shadow Shaman are quite simple supports.
Good point, CM is super squishy and dies a lot. Her skillset and tools are very straight forward though, and you help your team just by skilling up her aura.
but her ulti deals many damages it'll be helpful for clashing and her skill 2 to lock the enemies
Magicphoenix

Navizel wrote:

Are there any ways to avoid players who don't want to finish the game? It's really infuriating.

Game devs are now working on pairing leavers with other leavers and repeated offenders (reports) with their own type etc.
I guess waiting is the best option here :P
Magicphoenix

Miyu wrote:

Hey guys o/
so..yeah im new to this whole DOTA 2 thing..i just started playing it
i don't think i can complain much because i play LoL and community wise i'm kind of used to the whole whining and flaming but i find this last match i had really interesting..as soon this guy from my team - BOT lane died (causes: Obviously he was to greedy and ran for the kill but instead he got shot by turret and etc's) he did rq the game we're @ around 5 / 8 minutes along with his pre friend, flamed the hell out of everyone including me since i was @ bot lane as-well. i'm having the hell time trying to pick up to this game people seem to put a lot of pressure on the younger people like me,i really do want to play this moba but i'm just so clueless about so many things and the people i get Q with seem to be just major assholes anyways does anyone have a few tips on which hero's to play or..something? i did look up for a few videos but i think different opinions are nice too!,sorry if i came out of nowhere asking for such thing
Sorry, but this is what playing on EU West (or any EU) means. DOTA 2 is the one game that ever makes me racist and it's because of cyka bljat fuc*%( rustard ($§)%"(!/(§!!!!
My tip is to mute them and if possible report. There isn't really much helping I'm afraid :o Or you just play with friends :)


Remco32 wrote:

Get better. No seriously, you get grouped at your own skill level.
"Get good" is wtf? Remco? So they're supposed to get to 5k MMR in <1 year so they can finally get out of "their own skill level" hell? I'm playing on 5k+ and there's still flamers everywhere, it's just a russian thing.
Miyu

Soulclenz wrote:

Personally, I'd start off on heroes like crystal maiden or lion, and support the more experienced players until you can get a good feel for the game. You can also queue up with coaches in this game which is extremely helpful, as they are able to draw on your screen, ping your UI and talk directly to you while you play, great learning tool for new players, feel free to add me if you'd like to try that.
As for the community, yeah, it can be volatile. Your best bet is to just ignore the ragers, and take the productive criticism/advice that nicer players give (they do exist!).
Owh this is great,thanks for the help and tips but btw is there any way for me to join matches with coaches? i really have no idea how..lols

Magicphoenix wrote:

Sorry, but this is what playing on EU West (or any EU) means. DOTA 2 is the one game that ever makes me racist and it's because of cyka bljat fuc*%( rustard
($§)%"(!/(§!!!!My tip is to mute them and if possible report. There isn't really much helping I'm afraid :o Or you just play with friends :)
Yeah i don't really pay much attention to it tho better of just ignore!
Soulclenz

Miyu wrote:

Soulclenz wrote:

Personally, I'd start off on heroes like crystal maiden or lion, and support the more experienced players until you can get a good feel for the game. You can also queue up with coaches in this game which is extremely helpful, as they are able to draw on your screen, ping your UI and talk directly to you while you play, great learning tool for new players, feel free to add me if you'd like to try that.
As for the community, yeah, it can be volatile. Your best bet is to just ignore the ragers, and take the productive criticism/advice that nicer players give (they do exist!).
Owh this is great,thanks for the help and tips but btw is there any way for me to join matches with coaches? i really have no idea how..lols
Essentially Miyu, to join a match with a coach all you have to do is invite whomever you want coaching you, into your party and queue up with them set as a coach (little check box above the party group icons).

I play waaaaay too much dota2 and enjoy coaching and spectating when i can, so as I said earlier, feel free to add me if you ever want and I'll gladly observe some rounds. My steam name = Directive?
Remco32

gretay wrote:

umm what number do you mean? friend id or what?

Soulclenz wrote:

Good point, CM is super squishy and dies a lot. Her skillset and tools are very straight forward though, and you help your team just by skilling up her aura.
but her ulti deals many damages it'll be helpful for clashing and her skill 2 to lock the enemies
Your MMR rating.
Yes, her ulti deals massive damage, but you are slow and have no healthpool so you die without much trouble. And since a new player will be out of position all the time you will probably feed a lot.

Magicphoenix wrote:

"Get good" is wtf? Remco? So they're supposed to get to 5k MMR in <1 year so they can finally get out of "their own skill level" hell? I'm playing on 5k+ and there's still flamers everywhere, it's just a russian thing.
He meant leavers, not flamers. Those will stop being in your bracket if you get >2000MMR or so.
marka92
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Miyu wrote:

Hey guys o/
so..yeah im new to this whole DOTA 2 thing..i just started playing it
i don't think i can complain much because i play LoL and community wise i'm kind of used to the whole whining and flaming but i find this last match i had really interesting..as soon this guy from my team - BOT lane died (causes: Obviously he was to greedy and ran for the kill but instead he got shot by turret and etc's) he did rq the game we're @ around 5 / 8 minutes along with his pre friend, flamed the hell out of everyone including me since i was @ bot lane as-well. i'm having the hell time trying to pick up to this game people seem to put a lot of pressure on the younger people like me,i really do want to play this moba but i'm just so clueless about so many things and the people i get Q with seem to be just major assholes anyways does anyone have a few tips on which hero's to play or..something? i did look up for a few videos but i think different opinions are nice too!,sorry if i came out of nowhere asking for such thing
Play easy heroes such as Sven, Juggernaut, Dragon Knight, Death Prophet. Once you get the hang of DotA, you can play semi-hard heroes such as Phantom Assasin, Terrorblade, and many others. Just, please, dont play Invoker. Just dont
gretay

Remco32 wrote:

Your MMR rating.
Yes, her ulti deals massive damage, but you are slow and have no healthpool so you die without much trouble. And since a new player will be out of position all the time you will probably feed a lot.
is that MMR from the ranked match? if it's a ranked match i haven't played enough to get the rating because i usually play pub (too lazy to change it to ranking)
because of that Hp problem i hate CM , i'll use bracer army when i use it someday lol

Sonatora wrote:

Play easy heroes such as Sven, Juggernaut, Dragon Knight, Death Prophet. Once you get the hang of DotA, you can play semi-hard heroes such as Phantom Assasin, Terrorblade, and many others. Just, please, dont play Invoker. Just dont
add shit heroes like : easy: Riki , Drow Ranger , Bloodseeker , Viper , Sniper (oh shit from your list i can't / seldom play all those easy heroes)
Semi-Hard: Huskar , Axe , Legion Commander , Lion
Invoker is shit i hate those cold snap , emp , tornado
Miyu
alright xD tysm everyone!
Navizel

Remco32 wrote:

Magicphoenix wrote:

"Get good" is wtf? Remco? So they're supposed to get to 5k MMR in <1 year so they can finally get out of "their own skill level" hell? I'm playing on 5k+ and there's still flamers everywhere, it's just a russian thing.
He meant leavers, not flamers. Those will stop being in your bracket if you get >2000MMR or so.
I meant those who are sitting in front of your fountain waiting for us to respawn because they want to get more kills even though the ancient is so exposed. Never experienced this in LAN Dota 1 with my friends. Sorry for the confusion.
Remco32
I'd say Terrorblade is too much micro for a new player.
gretay

Remco32 wrote:

I'd say Terrorblade is too much micro for a new player.
yup you must know when to use ulti and it's a little bit too hard for me lol
bmin11
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bmin11 wrote:

Likely to be the last patch before the TI4
Finally I can play Elder Titan
bmin11
I think people will still max his other skills first and I'm not sure if that damage boast will make his stomp any more useful then it previously was. Though, nothing to complain.

It'll be interesting how Bat Riders jungling will look like now.

I'm all happy for Orge Magi, Skywrath Mage, and Undying buffs.
gretay

bmin11 wrote:

Likely to be the last patch before the TI4
lucky for the omnislash skill and fuck for the mjollnir's recipe it's 900 now , i can buy some tangos from there (lol)

Sonatora wrote:

bmin11 wrote:

Likely to be the last patch before the TI4
Finally I can play Elder Titan
i think it almost like no change , they just increase a little damage and it doesn't have too much effects (more from core until late game) i'd like if they increase the stun duration
Pizzicato
lycan nerf
oyes
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Pizzicato wrote:

lycan nerf
oyes
#DAGONOP
Pizzicato
also jeesus fuck that coldsnap nerf is terrible
it's his core skill at early game :(

he's not worth the 1st ban anymore
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