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Tanzklaue
we shouldn't speculate on what scum has or hasn't.

it won't help in the end.

the fact that redo claimed BP without something like a vig in the set up makes me think that he is more town.

leaves me with gumica tbh.
Tanzklaue
then again BP seems a little bit too much in a 9-player set up, and BP is a safe claim for scum to make to explain their unkillableness.
Sakura
We're just going to WIFOM ourselves that way, maybe we shouldn't even take claims into account that'll just confuse us more.
Sakura
Although if we mislynch today it's LyLo tomorrow so... i think we should just eliminate the WIFOM today
Vote: rEdo
rEdo
Why not Gumica first? I'd say he's much safer of a lynch for today than me.

I'm at L-1, take care.
Sakura
because we get rid of bulletproof because possible fake claim then we face a LyLo with VTs so we can focus on gameplay rather than claims.
rEdo
Okay then.

Should I hammer myself so this helps you guys out? :P
Sakura

rEdo wrote:

Why not Gumica first? I'd say he's much safer of a lynch for today than me.

I'm at L-1, take care.
Also this is totally a survivalist post.
Sakura

rEdo wrote:

Okay then.

Should I hammer myself so this helps you guys out? :P
And then this isn't.
rEdo

Sakura wrote:

Also this is totally a survivalist post.
Yup, I wanna be into this game after all. But if getting me lynched helps you, then I'm willing to hammer myself, or let somebody else do that.
Sakura

rEdo wrote:

Okay then.

Should I hammer myself so this helps you guys out? :P
If you're scum go ahead, if you're town i prefer you don't because you then remove valuable info from who would've followed me and hammered you.
rEdo
Scum is in {Gumica, CB}. Why can't we just lynch Gumica, and if he flips town, then go for CB?
rEdo
Damn, this game is solved for me, but I have no fucking proof that I'm town >.<
Sakura

rEdo wrote:

Scum is in {Gumica, CB}. Why can't we just lynch Gumica, and if he flips town, then go for CB?
Because if you're scum then we're screwed obviously.
Gumica
Why so defensive all of a sudden?
rEdo

Gumica wrote:

Why so defensive all of a sudden?
Because L-1, I don't want you guys to mislynch and I don't want to die? :P
rEdo
Sakura: You'll obviously bite the dust N3. Please make a wall, trying to make a case on all four of us as this will help.
Tanzklaue
yea redo bleeds town atm.
Sakura

rEdo wrote:

Sakura: You'll obviously bite the dust N3. Please make a wall, trying to make a case on all four of us as this will help.
Considering both CB and Gumica are after me atm i doubt it, and i just can't make a case on Tanz other than paranoia that i wasn't killed because i was townreading him, CB's fake hammer D1 and calling RB obvtown, plus not waiting to see Gumica's reaction, Gumica for overall play this game and you for naked votes that went back pedal with "Sorry! reaction testing!".
rEdo

Sakura wrote:

rEdo wrote:

Sakura: You'll obviously bite the dust N3. Please make a wall, trying to make a case on all four of us as this will help.
Considering both CB and Gumica are after me atm i doubt it, and i just can't make a case on Tanz other than paranoia that i wasn't killed because i was townreading him, CB's fake hammer D1 and calling RB obvtown, plus not waiting to see Gumica's reaction, Gumica for overall play this game and you for naked votes that went back pedal with "Sorry! reaction testing!".
I know my votes were quite shit, I just didn't follow the game as close as I do now (finally free from second period exams) back then. I still have no idea why Zexion seemed scum to me, perhaps it was just rephrasing what have already been said by the others, which is often seen in a newbie's play and I read that as scum most of the time.

Oh well, might as well try this.
Vote: CalignoBot
rEdo

Zexion wrote:

Vote: CalignoBot

For claiming to have the best role.

rEdo wrote:

Afraid?
Nah, its just that I think my role is better than his c:
Wow fuck, this actually was HUGE.
Amianki
Why exactly am I being voted again?
rEdo
p/2934357 Forcing a case on DD here.
rEdo
Gumica: What do you think of CalignoBot?
rEdo
Yeah, after rereading I'm still between CB and Gumica. CB's meta seems different in this game, though.
Amianki
I don't see any problems with that case. What's wrong with it.
rEdo

CalignoBot wrote:

I don't see any problems with that case. What's wrong with it.
The arguments around it were pretty plain. That's not like the usual you.
Gumica
He's slightly scum to me based on that vote he did on RB. I think he kinda wanted to make something out of it, but then again, it's just my gut feeling
Amianki
So basically you don't have any real reason. You're just going along the flow that Sakura started a page ago.

I have no idea what Gumica's even trying to say.
Amianki
First line was at rEdo by the way.
Gumica
No, I don't, thus you're null to me right now, slightly scum taste to it (provided explanation above). But you are certinly not on my town list either
Amianki

CalignoBot wrote:

First line was at rEdo by the way.
Gumica
oh, nvm then, sry
rEdo

CalignoBot wrote:

So basically you don't have any real reason. You're just going along the flow that Sakura started a page ago.
Excuse me, what. I had my suspicions on you since the end of D2 (asked Tanz about you here, at the beginning of D3, and that was way before Sakura started). I admit, at first in quite an OMGUSy manner, but later on things were making a lot of sense.
  1. Calling RB obvtown because of some half-assed overreaction post
  2. Forcing a case on DD
  3. After reviewing RB's ISO, I noticed that he's avoiding CB's topic
I indeed have no real reason.

Gumica: If you were scum, who would you kill N1 in your situation? And why Nyquill?
Gumica
If I were scum, it wouldn't matter who'd I pick in N1. I'd probbably go for a biggest threat, but at the same time preserving the one that suspects me, so that I wouldn't be more suspicious. In following days it would still be the same, but with more variables, it'd be a much more calculated pick (like how Zexion was picked then made me so much more suspicious,...) Nyquill in N1 would just be a random pick out of the PoE..

also, V/LA today. I'm going on a programming tournament, so I doubt I'll have any internet access through entire day.
rEdo
zzz
Amianki
hi
Tanzklaue
yawn
Sakura
Been and gonna spend the weekend playing Zelda Classic sorry >_<
Topic Starter
GuyInFreezer
VoteCount 3.02
rEdo (L-1): CalignoBot | sakura
CalignoBot (L-2): rEdo

Not Voting: Gumica, TanzKlaue

With 5 left, 3 to lynch.

The deadline is April 2nd, 10:30 EDT
Amianki
No but seriously, that case is forced.
Amianki
Seriously, calling me scum because I said RB was town for his reaction to the fake hammer doesn't make any sense if you can't make any case for why me switching my read is scum motivated.

You focus a lot on that point in general. I have trouble seeing it as anything but a case based on me seeing town as scum and scum as town on a single reaction gambit, which is inherently null.
Amianki
Switching to trying to wagon me is opportunistic as fuck too. He's playing to survive, not lynch scum.
rEdo

CalignoBot wrote:

Switching to trying to wagon me is opportunistic as fuck too. He's playing to survive, not lynch scum.
Aren't you doing that too? The only case you've got on me is sheeping RB because I was a lazy-ass slacker, or am I wrong?
Amianki
No, because being opportunistic would mean trying to find an excuse to go onto Gumica today since he was in the spotlight immediately when day started.
rEdo
If you were town, why would you not go for Gumica?
Amianki
Because...

CalignoBot wrote:

The game makes perfect sense with a rEdo+RB scumteam.
Tanzklaue
well, what are your reasons to believe that?
Amianki
rEdo voted with RB when he could and RB tried to backpedal the buddying so that it wouldn't reveal his scumpartner.
He jumps on the Gumica bandwagon, but suddenly switches to me the moment a wagon starts becoming a possibility.
RB's end-of-day reads make a lot of sense with rEdo-scum. He tried to subtly implicate Gumica by putting him in his town reads (by going off the WIFOM that he'd be protecting his buddy) and subtly implicate me by throwing a weak, refuted reason on me, but left rEdo in his scumreads. RB tried to WIFOM lynches.

Plus there's this gem:

rEdo wrote:

I guess this is the best for the current moment.

Vote: Raging Bull

If he flips scum, there's a high probability of Gumica being scum as well. I'd love to have a cop investigation on this guy made by somebody, unless it's already been done.
Free brownies to the first person who sees why this is bad.
rEdo
EBWOP:

rEdo wrote:

Also, another random thought that came to my head: the person from this game who would most likely kill Nyquill N1 is you and RB himself.
rEdo
oh what the fuck did just happen, my whole previous post is gone WTF
rEdo
Nevermind, here it is.

CalignoBot wrote:

rEdo voted with RB when he could and RB tried to backpedal the buddying so that it wouldn't reveal his scumpartner.
Like I said, this was mainly because I was lazy and wanted to see who notices this first.

CalignoBot wrote:

He jumps on the Gumica bandwagon, but suddenly switches to me the moment a wagon starts becoming a possibility.
The reason why I jumped on you is because this game is solved for me. I know either you or Gumica are scum, so I'm just playing around, testing how people react. I still hate how Gumica is lurking and not doing anything by himself, by the way. I also didn't like all of his responses to my questions, that's just not enough. The unavailability of gaining information from him is the main reason why I'm on you.

CalignoBot wrote:

RB's end-of-day reads make a lot of sense with rEdo-scum. He tried to subtly implicate Gumica by putting him in his town reads (by going off the WIFOM that he'd be protecting his buddy) and subtly implicate me by throwing a weak, refuted reason on me, but left rEdo in his scumreads. RB tried to WIFOM lynches.
You say that as if it wasn't like I had Gumica in my suspects since D1.

CalignoBot wrote:

Plus there's this gem:

rEdo wrote:

I guess this is the best for the current moment.

Vote: Raging Bull

If he flips scum, there's a high probability of Gumica being scum as well. I'd love to have a cop investigation on this guy made by somebody, unless it's already been done.
Free brownies to the first person who sees why this is bad.
Do you imply role fishing? Yeah, nice try. The bolded by you part of this post was just in case there actually was a Cop and he had investigated Gumica before-hand. Also, the person from this game who would most likely kill Nyquill N1 is you and RB himself. Here. Afraid of Nyquill drilling into this?
Amianki
Why am I likely to kill Nyquill again?
rEdo
p/2930392 In case you missed that in previous post.

Association with Gumica, a potential to get narrowed down. Just like I'm doing it to you now. He also was pretty blunt with saying that RB is scum.
Amianki
So you cherry picked the only indication in Nyquill's entire ISO that indicates any kind of attention on me whatsoever, and one that's pretty much reads-irrelevant anyway.

I don't see how your point on his RB suspicion is at all relevant.
Sakura
ftr i'd like to remind you that Nyquill was townreading CB on the Neighborhood.
Amianki
To be fair, that's not really relevant to his point since there's no way an RB+me scumteam would have any way of knowing about it on N1.
Tanzklaue
i honestly don't see anything incriminating in the post redo quoted.

like, at all.
Sakura
Well yeah =/ went through his ISO it's not like he shared many reads by the end of D1, it kind of reminds me of the time i got Night killed N1 on my first mafia game after making a whooping ammount of 2 posts and no reads.
Sakura
Anyway there's 2 ways i wanna go about today, either kill the WIFOM role (rEdo) or kill my scumspect (Gumica)
rEdo
that moment when in the middle of an argument you realize you're wrong but you still keep on forcing your ideas lol

after I posted the link to this, I realized it's actually taken completely out of context as well. I mean, read 2-3 pages before that occured.

oh well >_>"

Sakura, would you rather go with me or Gumica? If Gumica flips town, then you're free to lynch me the following day.
Sakura

rEdo wrote:

Sakura, would you rather go with me or Gumica? If Gumica flips town, then you're free to lynch me the following day.
No, how about we lynch you today instead.
Sakura
there's so much wrong with that sentence it's like a scum claim.
rEdo
Yup, feel free to. Tanz, hammer please.
rEdo
I realized I don't even deserve to win this game, so whatever >_>"
Sakura
Like, read it over and tell me if it makes sense coming from someone with a town role PM.
Gumica
ya, nice copying of my tactics, i like that. ===[]
Vote: rEdo
rEdo
I hope you guys pick the right person next day. Cheers!
Sakura
Like what in the fricken world if you're really town you dont offer yourself up to be lynched on XyLo.
rEdo
Yup, I really am town, and I really am a 1-shot Bulletproof.

I just lost the motivation, since I realized I'm wrong in the middle of my argumentation. And there was no way to back it off, so scum like Gumica can happily hammer me.
rEdo
At least you get rid of the WIFOM, that's the best thing I can do anyway.
Gumica
Oh and btw, you said I was unavaliable to give you information, but all you had to do is ask... generaly, I reply to every question unless i'm pissed off @something. Just, for future reference rEdo
Topic Starter
GuyInFreezer
I smell lynch. Stop posting pls
Amianki
Giving up is literally the worst possible thing you can do as town.
rEdo
I would get lynched anyway after I brought up the Gumica-CB association, so that wasn't really giving up ^_^

Yeah, let's stop posting now. Good luck, town.
Gumica
I tought that was self-hammering (:
sry, had to say it
Topic Starter
GuyInFreezer
VoteCount 3.03
rEdo (Lynch): CalignoBot | sakura | Gumica
CalignoBot (L-2): rEdo

Not Voting: TanzKlaue

With 5 left, 3 to lynch.

The deadline is April 2nd, 10:30 EDT
Topic Starter
GuyInFreezer
"I'm a soul man doodoodoodoo-dooh"

*Boom*

"Aw hell, what happened to my cassette player?"

rEdo, Soul Man - Blues Brothers (Town 1-shot Bulletproof), stopped playing Day 3.

Role PM
Welcome to Mismatched Flavor Mafia!

You are Soul Man - Blues Brothers (Town 1-shot Bulletproof).



I'm a soul man

Cool stuff. But in the end, you're just a normal human being... with a soul, man!
And do you know which role a normal human being... with a soul get?

A Vanilla Townie, of course.... added with the mix of 1-shot Bulletproof! The true power of soul! Woah!

You know how bulletproof works, right? You can sruvive one nightkill. You won't be notified.

Just like normal person in mafia game, you can vote and stuff during the day.

You win when all the anti-town factions are eliminated.

Now it is Night 3.
The deadline is April 1st, 1:15 PM EDT or when everyone sends in a PM requesting for quick night.
Topic Starter
GuyInFreezer
"No one's gonna read your wall. Like, ever."

"Well but I thi-"

"Mudada"

"What?"

"Omae wa moe shindeiru."

"What?"

CalignoBot, Setsuen (Vanilla Townie), was already dead Night 3.

"Role PM"
Welcome to Mismatched Flavor Mafia!

You are Setsuen (Vanilla Townie).



"LOL NO. Based on CB's playingstyle D1 I expected that he was "telling the truth"on his post of how he won when "his scumbuddy got lynched D1"assuming that this is true, CB D1 playstyle was being survivalistic(stopped arguing with me because of scum points), getting an easy lynch(me) AND preventing association with the Myth. With this you're off the list so overall there only Sakura,Leader & DD left.

Sakura is suspicious because DD nicely answered all her questions. HOWEVER, CB placed her down as the 2nd most scummiest(we all know CB needed 2mislynch at D3 & 4 to win). So it will depend on whether CB actually even scum readed Sakura AT ALL on D2. Her 180turn..I still don't believe that that was true ESPECIALLY since I think it was after CB's post stating that he was earning scumpoints? It DOESN'T help matters at all that CB said that Myth is likely to be on Nav's wagon than mine. Excluding me, Sakura is the ONLY person who was on my wagon D1. Add that 180turn in and things looks bad for her.

Leader is suspicious. CB only practically went for Leader only ONCE the entire D1. The oh I didn't see that Leader claimed PR could have been faked D2. Since D2 is a possible day where CB decided to change his style a little(Stopped going for me D2 & possibly try to disassociate himself from the Myth) At the same time, CB DID go for Leader & kevin for starting the Nav wagon.

DD is suspicious because CB literally speed town-readed DD. Then proceeded to NEVER question DD at all. This feels like disassociation. At the same time, DD post don't have any inconsistencies NOR anything to point her out as scum unlike Leader's roleclaim & Sakura's 180turn.

Now we all know that GIF & Irre HAVE to be town. So it MIGHT be possible that CB is trynig to associate town with each other or something. I know I'm town, so if Gumcia is town it's possible that he did somewhat associate town with each other. If this was the case, Leader is the Myth. There's the possibility that he placed Scum with one of the town too which might explain why Dake & Sakura are suspecting each other.

Well this kind of makes DD suspicious unless CB is bussing......... but we all know from D1 that he wasn't bussing anyone since he was basically only attacking me <.< teh only bus he could have made, would be on his D3 reads. Which is why we must search for... who became from pro-town to scum/ scum to pro-town.(from D1 - D3)

tl:dr- Sakura & Leader are both suspicious because of their actions(Late roleclaim, 180Turn), DD is suspicious because CB never even tried to go for him and instead, stayed as far away from DD as much as possible.

Also, Based on the order of who voted in the Irre lynch, there's only two option. Myth joined last, Sakura/Leader OR Myth just decided to sit back and watch town fumble DD. The 2nd option is... well less possible. The probability of the 2nd one happening is the probability of Leader being Myth because 3PRs got killed in a row(kevin and Nav did not say they were PR so basically all NK) the chances of Leader being myth might well be = chances of 3PRs getting killed in 3consecutive night which is=3/8(excluding me because I was obv VT)*2/8(Nav possible scum got lynched)*1/7(kevin got lynched). I would say that the chances of that is pretty low.

Sakura is the MOST suspicious one right now, followed by Leader then DD. I might move Gumica back up the scum list if I ever get the feeling that CB was bussing somehow...... but since Nav(most likely scum) got lynched D1 I have no idea how to determine if CB ever adopted the bussing scheme."

-Setsuen, in Lupus in Tabula. All in one post.


lolSetsuen

Just like all other normal players, you get the vote and stuff.

You win when all the anti-town factions are eliminated.

Now it is Day 4.
The deadline is 8:15 PM EDT April 6th.
Amianki
Bitches want me to stop walling

k
Tanzklaue
Vote: Gumica

hammering redo was basically a scumclaim
Tanzklaue
especially since redo obviously wanted me to post first. but ya couldn't wait on that now couldn't you?
Tanzklaue
also i agree. best flavour 10/10
Sakura
This is me not hammering and waiting to see how Gumica reacts.
Sakura
Also this is me getting paranoia on Tanz because why the fricken fuck would CB die over me or Tanz.
Tanzklaue
i have no clue.

the nightkills just don't make any sense.
Tanzklaue
not that they need to make sense, gumica is the last scum.

i also need to improve my reading drastically. i read all that scum bs of his as newb town bs.
Sakura
I mean, we're both technically the most obvtown by play this game, why would Gumica condemn himself by killing CBot instead of either you or me and 1v1 with CBot.

There's 2 reasons i can think of IF you are scum it means you wanted to keep me alive because i'm townreading you and you need me to vote Gumica with you which I hinted i was willing to do so at D3.
Sakura
Besides you hinted during most of the game to Gumica being town, if you thought Gumica was that town you'd have opened the day voting me instead.

But then this is LyLo and paranoia prevents me for rushing to vote either of you 2 =/

Also im conftown now coz if i was scum i'd have already hammered for the win.
Tanzklaue
well i would say that RB was the clear head of the organisation. if i can entrust one thing on gumica, then that there is not much sense behind his play.


i would argue that he thought with his hammer that he cleared himself as town.
Tanzklaue
i thought gumica was town.

then he claimed scum by hammering redo.

sorry but even the nicest village idiot wouldn't townread him anymore.
Sakura
Hmm... i really need to rethink and reread.
Topic Starter
GuyInFreezer
VoteCount 4.01
Gumica (L-1): Tanzklaue

Not Voting: Sakura, Gumica

With 3 left, 2 to lynch.

The deadline is April 6st, 8:15 PM EDT
Tanzklaue
it's 5 am.

i don't think we will hear too much from gumica until at least 6-8 hours from now. good nigt for now.
rEdo
holy shit i literally lol'd at caligno's flip

consider this a bah post
Gumica
Well here I am, 6h late from Tanz time-prediction.
Anyways, I only accelerated things a bit, since you were all just going in circles last day. It's usualy easier finding scum in lylo than mylo. Based on the provided informations and proofs on rEdo (and that "threat" he pulled over Sakura), I voted him. So, tell me, how does hammering make anyone 100% scum? Are you implying that hammering is always scum, when lynching the wrong person?

Now, I trust Sakura is town (if you're scum, then just end it), so i'm voting the only player left in the game;
Vote: Tanzklaue
Tanzklaue
would you kill someone who asks you to kill him irl?

no you wouldn't. unless you had the job to kill him. then you gladly would take that chance.

also: you just don't hammer before deadline in this situation, even if one guy says it is okay. you still have to state the intend of hammering and ask everyone if it is okay. that is if you're town at least.
Tanzklaue
especially since no scum would give up this easily when he is on his own.
Gumica
I'd kill a friend irl if he was in a special situation, where it would be better to kill him than letting him suffer...

So what, now i have to wait for everybody's approval in 5p game? 2/4 players were inclined to vote rEdo (that being me and Sakura). The only ones left were you and Caligno. So you're implying i should never hammer until we get 100% unity. No, sorry, your logic is flawed. However it is true that I could've waited a bit longer.
Tanzklaue
both sakura and cb already had votes on him.

let's move away from focusing down the early hammer. what about general being unproductive? what about blackmailing the town? what about scumreading obv town sakura for most of the time?
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