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LadySuburu
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LadySuburu wrote:

Because of the style of the game, I feel like changing one of the rules and seeing how it works.

Now..

1. Unless otherwise stated in your Role PM, this game takes place in this thread only - do not discuss it anywhere else. Doing so will get you modkilled or immediately replaced, depending on the severity of the offence. (This is important for mafia games.)

Becomes:

1. Discussion outside of the thread is now allowed so long as the host is either forwarded the PMs or PM'd a link to where the discussion is taking place. Logs are also acceptable.

Editing front page to show this.

Reasoning: The way the game is styled, it doesn't really matter much if you can PM each other. Just be wary now that people may be having hidden conversations behind your back.

Now blargh.

That being said, if there's a horrendous lack of activity in this thread, I will revoke that rule.
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Powerdrone
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SORRY! I've been really busy, and haven't been able to be here! I'm here now though.

I'm going to read over the thread again and see who's suspiciousical.
anonymous_old
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Current players:
  1. DiamondCrash
  2. nooodl
  3. Powerdrone
  4. strager
  5. Wojjan
Current votes:
  1. nooodl: Powerdrone
  2. strager: Wojjie
  3. Wojjan: his brother
Let's get moving, people!
LadySuburu
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Day's actually over, but because there's that stragerpost I am convinced to extend... one day for now. Maybe two more, maybe not. Let's see some activity. (Xmas gives some leniancy, so yeah, likely a few more.)
Powerdrone
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Powerdrone
nooodl is voting for me, and I know I'm not mafia, so I'm going to go ahead and vote for him. :P

VOTE: nooodl
bearing019
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I'm going with strager's logic. Vote Wojj.
LadySuburu
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2 Wojjan
2 nooodl
1 Powerdrone

Gotta convince three people to vote someone.
Wojjan
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Wojjan
It appears we have reached an impasse.
anonymous_old
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Here's my interpretations of the votes. If you have anything to add (e.g. I misunderstand someone's argument), feel free to do so.

Argument against Wojjan
Wojjan made a Freudian slip by not knowing about the Doctor role (which would only occur if he wasn't a Doctor, and the only other role is a Mafia member).

Argument against nooodl
nooodl is, accoring to Wojjan, "very caught up in this game". To me, though, he just seems interested in keeping the game moving (as I am).

Argument against Powerdrone
nooodl says Powerdrone is acting out of place. I couldn't say because I don't know Powerdrone. Voting solely due to a metagame reason is kinda out there IMO, too.
Wojjan
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strager wrote:

Argument against Wojjan
Wojjan made a Freudian slip by not knowing about the Doctor role (which would only occur if he wasn't a Doctor, and the only other role is a Mafia member).
Defense/Explanation: This is no Freudian slip. I am a Doctor, but tried to press nooodl into a reaction. Were he to act odd when confronted with an accusation, I could point this out, and we have our scum.

strager wrote:

Argument against nooodl
nooodl is, accoring to Wojjan, "very caught up in this game". To me, though, he just seems interested in keeping the game moving (as I am).
Defense/Explanation: I'm luring nooodl out here. You too would do well to know that nooodl hasn't played any Mafia game with me, and I would not know his playing behaviour. I would, for instance, not attack SFG or Rolled for being active, I know they are.

Hope this helps clearing up your troubles.
anonymous_old
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Wojjan wrote:

strager wrote:

Argument against Wojjan
Wojjan made a Freudian slip by not knowing about the Doctor role (which would only occur if he wasn't a Doctor, and the only other role is a Mafia member).
Defense/Explanation: This is no Freudian slip. I am a Doctor, but tried to press nooodl into a reaction. Were he to act odd when confronted with an accusation, I could point this out, and we have our scum.
That's a pretty weak defense, IMO. It's not illogical but I'm having difficulty believing you.

Wojjan wrote:

strager wrote:

Argument against nooodl
nooodl is, accoring to Wojjan, "very caught up in this game". To me, though, he just seems interested in keeping the game moving (as I am).
Defense/Explanation: I'm luring nooodl out here. You too would do well to know that nooodl hasn't played any Mafia game with me, and I would not know his playing behaviour. I would, for instance, not attack SFG or Rolled for being active, I know they are.
I'll buy that.
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Wojjan wrote:

Defense/Explanation: This is no Freudian slip. I am a Doctor, but tried to press nooodl into a reaction. Were he to act odd when confronted with an accusation, I could point this out, and we have our scum..
What reaction? I don't see how...

Wojjan wrote:

vote: nooodl. You're being very caught up in this game, and you wouldn't if you had a boring role. I think you're a mafia.
...could evoke any reaction, other than "Lol no". More so, why say that, instead of...

Wojjan wrote:

vote: nooodl. You're being very caught up in this game, and you wouldn't if you were a doctor.
So, a direct question to Wojjan: Why say "a boring role" rather than "doctor"? Considering, in my opinion, the latter would have proked a similar, if not greater response?
Wojjan
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The trouble lies in focus. The reaction I was hoping for should spring off of

Wojjan wrote:

vote: nooodl. You're being very caught up in this game, and you wouldn't if you had a boring role. I think you're a mafia.
instead of the boring role bit.
LadySuburu
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<------- Vacation. Deadline extended till I'm back.
Wojjan
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DiamondCrash wrote:

More so, why say that, instead of...

Wojjan wrote:

vote: nooodl. You're being very caught up in this game, and you wouldn't if you were a doctor.
oh before I forget, that would be a lie and then strager would point that out and be all omg u scum just the same.
Wojjan
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Powerdrone311 wrote:

SORRY! I've been really busy, and haven't been able to be here! I'm here now though.

I'm going to read over the thread again and see who's suspiciousical.
Hey Powerdrone, results?
Powerdrone
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Powerdrone
I voted for noooodl. I'm in another mafia round though and I'm rather busy.
LadySuburu
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I'm back but not ready to do anything yet. Day will end tomorrow or the day after.
LadySuburu
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Last extention due to the "bleh's", if no lynch by tomorrow, all live players are replaced by all dead players.
anonymous_old
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LadySuburu wrote:

Last extention due to the "bleh's", if no lynch by tomorrow, all live players are replaced by all dead players.
What.

I was waiting for the day to end...

I don't want the game turning into crap, so I'll do this:

Unvote

If someone wants to vote for Wojjie I'll re-place my vote. Now, at least, we get a lynch and we aren't gay'd.

On a logic-related note:

Last night I conceived a method for increasing the chance of the Town winning and therefore likely decreasing the length of the game. I'll need to be alive tomorrow to lay out the plans, of course, so we can execute them. If I say them now I'm not sure we'll have enough time to do it and the Mafia will try to ruin the whole operation (there are several ways to help the Mafia if it isn't done properly) so we'll have to wait until tomorrow.
LadySuburu
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Extra extention due to me apperently not posting that rule somewhere.

So, let's do this again.

It's 3 to lynch. If there is no official lynch by deadline, ALL LIVING PLAYERS ARE REPLACED BY THE DEAD PLAYERS.

That being stated (again), I now give a week expansion for the last time.
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LadySuburu
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DeathxShinigami
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Powerdrone
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LadySuburu
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Night ends.

3 to lynch.

Have fun!
anonymous_old
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Okay, the plan:

Everyone pledges they will protect another person. Each person has only one person protecting them, forming a ring.

If we can make a no-lynch (without penalty), we can do that.

If not, or if we want the game to not dwindle to an elimination fest, we need to remove one person from the ring, and they will be lynched.

Living players, in order from the OP:
  1. Wojjan
  2. DeathxShinigami
  3. strager
  4. DiamondCrash
  5. Powerdrone311
Let's say that's the ring; Wojjie protects DxS, DxS protects strager, and so on. Powerdrone protects Wojjie.

Now, we see who is killed during the night, if anyone. If someone is killed, we lynch the person who was supposed to have protected them because either they aren't playing the game right or they aren't a Doctor (and thus are a Mafia Good). If no one is killed, oh well; continue with the next day.

Today, I am going to Protect: Powerdrone.
DeathxShinigami
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So then I want to Protect: strager Am I doing it right?
Wojjan
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Wojjan
well let me protect DeathxShinigami then.
bearing019
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strager wrote:

  1. Wojjan
  2. DeathxShinigami
  3. strager
  4. DiamondCrash
  5. Powerdrone311
Today, I am going to Protect: Powerdrone.
Ahem. If I'm not mistaken, I protect Powerdrone?
Wojjan
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it's not really in any order
bearing019
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Protect: Wojjan
There we go.

Then Powerdrone protects me.
LadySuburu
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There is no "No Lynch".

That is all.
Wojjan
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hurr. why not
bearing019
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Hold on, wait, what?

How's this going to work now?
Wojjan
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It sort of only gives us a night guarantee, provided the mafia is BOTCHED ASS STUPID.
bearing019
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Wojjan wrote:

It sort of only gives us a night guarantee, provided the mafia is BOTCHED ASS STUPID.
"Botched ass stupid"? Kind of a childish, rather reckess outburst from a relatively tame player, don't you think?
anonymous_old
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DiamondCrash wrote:

strager wrote:

  1. Wojjan
  2. DeathxShinigami
  3. strager
  4. DiamondCrash
  5. Powerdrone311
Today, I am going to Protect: Powerdrone.
Ahem. If I'm not mistaken, I protect Powerdrone?
The ring in that post was purely an example. I provided how protections would occur after that list if that ring were chosen.

I guess pairs could work, but rings work for any size, and if two Mafia are "protecting" each other they wouldn't vote for the person they are "protecting" so there's a less chance of a Mafia hit (but also less chance of a Townie hit).

Current ring:

DiamondCrash: strager
strager: Powerdrone
Powerdrone: Wojjie
Wojjie: DxS

DxS has to vote to protect DiamondCrash to complete the ring. However, we cannot have a five player ring if we cannot vote to not lynch anyone. Therefore, someone has to be killed.

I am prodding DxS. If he doesn't come soon I'm going to vote him off because I dislike inactive players.

Wojjan wrote:

It sort of only gives us a night guarantee, provided the mafia is BOTCHED ASS STUPID.
Are you saying my plan has a hole? I'd like to hear it. As far as I can see, the Mafia cast their votes to LS and LS determines who is killed, or something. (OP says Mafia do not know who each other are, so I assume they cannot discuss?)

EDIT: Fixed a hanging [/color] tag.
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DeathxShinigami
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Oi oi its before 4 pm -8 GMT give me a break I got back from school

Protecting DiamondCrash

There there I'm here.
Powerdrone
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I'm confused, don't we choose to protect someone by PM to the GM? Is it night right now? I thought it was day, in which case we'd be voting to kill someone...
anonymous_old
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Powerdrone311 wrote:

I'm confused, don't we choose to protect someone by PM to the GM? Is it night right now? I thought it was day, in which case we'd be voting to kill someone...
We are saying who we would protect if we were all Doctors.

If someone dies, the person who should have been protecting the person who died is Mafia.

Sorry I seemed rushing DxS; just wanted you in the game.

And I just realized I don't think I chose someone to protect last night... Wups? =X
Powerdrone
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It's funny, cause I protected Wojjan every night since I've been alive... which is two. =P
anonymous_old
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Oh, right, I forgot...

Vote: Wojjie
DeathxShinigami
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I wonder why Wojjan protected me...I don't talk to you so much and it seemed upon instinct you would act to protect me still. Very suspicious.
bearing019
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DeathxShinigami wrote:

I wonder why Wojjan protected me...I don't talk to you so much and it seemed upon instinct you would act to protect me still. Very suspicious.
Not really. You were next on the list. The only thing I find strange is strager, who was the only person not to go by the list, even though he was the one who produced it. He seemed to act on his instinctal need to either skip protecting me, or his need to protect Powerdrone. As I can't see any reason for the first, it must be the second. Why protect Powerdrone? He's done it before, too.

strager wrote:

Argument against Powerdrone
nooodl says Powerdrone is acting out of place. I couldn't say because I don't know Powerdrone. Voting solely due to a metagame reason is kinda out there IMO, too.
Perhaps he knows something about Powerdrone we don't? I dunno, I'm probably being overanalytical.
Wojjan
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WIFOM WIFOM WIFOM
you do know the mafia isn't as stupid as to kill the target they are going to "protect"
END OF WIFOM
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strager wrote:

Yes.

But the Mafia don't know who each other are and don't know who to collectively target.
What do you mean collectively target? It doesn't make a difference, does it?
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DiamondCrash wrote:

strager wrote:

Yes.

But the Mafia don't know who each other are and don't know who to collectively target.
What do you mean collectively target? It doesn't make a difference, does it?
I'm not sure exactly how the Mafia choose a Night Kill because I'm not a Mafia member.

Mod: If you could clarify how Night Kills are decided that would be helpful.

I guess I just assumed Mafia members sent their vote to LS and she determined who would die.
LadySuburu
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As I know I've stated before...

Each mafia gets their own night kill, just as each doctor gets their own protection.
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LadySuburu wrote:

As I know I've stated before...

Each mafia gets their own night kill, just as each doctor gets their own protection.
Oh.

o_o
Powerdrone
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So their more like... serial killers?
LadySuburu
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Powerdrone311 wrote:

So their more like... serial killers?
Pretty much. Serial Killers are just like mafia, only they win by themselves.

I called them mafia because all the living players have to be mafia or Doctors to win. You can't win alone.
Powerdrone
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I just noticed I used the wrong "there". :/
Wojjan
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Can I self-vote? Just so A new player would come into the game, that is.
If so: Vote: Wojjie
Yeah I'd rather we move on.
Whoever should protect me, protect the one I'm getting.
LadySuburu
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Mod note: If anyone saw my post before I deleted it, then forget what I posted, mod was being stupid.

Aanyway, checking current vote tally.

Wojjan (2) - strager, Wojjan
Wojjan
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2 for me, none for the others. Spare the trouble
herp derp
bearing019
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Vote: Wojjan

If you're sure.
LadySuburu
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Being dead of the one, Wojjan.

Time of Night.
LadySuburu
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Classes, will update soon with new players.

On that note, I will allow the start of discussion among the currently living players.

strager and DxS die.

There are to be no lynch votes until I send the roles to the two incoming players, but discussion is fine. (I won't count any votes before then.)
0_o
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mod: If a mafia kills a doctor, does the doctor's protection still work?
LadySuburu
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0_o wrote:

mod: If a mafia kills a doctor, does the doctor's protection still work?
Yes. On that note, I want to clarify a few things.


Let's say Joe is protecting Bob.

Jane and Fred both target Bob with a kill.

Bob will die.


Now, if Joe and Fran are protecting Bob, and Jane and Fred are targeting Bob, Bob won't die.
LadySuburu
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adam NoHitter in
NoHitter
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confirm
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confirmed
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It looks like strager's ring approach has a hole in it now.

So if two mafia target one person, and there's only one doctor protecting him, he will still die.

Any ideas?
bearing019
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NoHItter wrote:

It looks like strager's ring approach has a hole in it now.

So if two mafia target one person, and there's only one doctor protecting him, he will still die.

Any ideas?
Ring having a hole in it? I never.

No, not really. But the mafia don't know each other, so it would be pot luck if they both/two of them were to pick the same one, wouldn't it?
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Okay, since strager and DxS died...

We can assume both mafia killed different people.

since strager died, and DxS was protected him, DxS was mafia.
But DxS died...
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NoHItter wrote:

Okay, since strager and DxS died...

We can assume both mafia killed different people.

since strager died, and DxS was protected him, DxS was mafia.
But DxS died...
Powerdrone had the forsight to kill the person that couldn't be protected by Wojjan, because Wojjie was dead, I suppose.

Vote: Powerdrone
NoHitter
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Damn, I forgot that there could be more than 2 mafia as of now...

Also prodding the other players
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I just feel that Diamond is mafia.
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DiamondCrash wrote:

No, not really. But the mafia don't know each other, so it would be pot luck if they both/two of them were to pick the same one, wouldn't it?

NoHItter wrote:

Damn, I forgot that there could be more than 2 mafia as of now...

Also prodding the other players
I still say we go with it though.

protect: adam2046
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/me pokes thread.

Almost the five-month anniversary!
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Hey.
Vote: DiamonCrash
LadySuburu
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If I don't see some activity, I'm just going to close the game (like all the others that died out.).

I might make one more attempt after that (at normal mafia), and if that fails I'll either post a restricted-join mafia, or be done hosting mafia here for a while. A long while.

So... yeah, deadline is currently suspended, and if there's a serious lack of activity when I finally get sick of waiting, then I'm ending this game.
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This is why you don't kill me, guys.

D=
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lol
I think I feel pressured to vote now to get some activity going :|

Vote: Powerdrone

He's inactive atm and not posting is a way of evading
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SPOILER
It's "day-ish". Votes don't count anyway. You're to blame for inactivity, Suburu.
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Wojjan wrote:

SPOILER
It's "day-ish". Votes don't count anyway. You're to blame for inactivity, Suburu.
Bleh. Day started when there were 5 players.
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someone else post :|
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How so?
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vote Powerdrone

that's what you get when you let your heart win don't post
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If you guys wouldn't mind, I'd like to drop out of this actually. Probably should have asked a long time ago.
LadySuburu
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What? A lynch? Is that even possible?

Powerdrone was killed in a 1 in 1,000,000 (5) chance.

Night time, and sending new role to whomever's next in line.
LadySuburu
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Powerdrone311 wrote:

If you guys wouldn't mind, I'd like to drop out of this actually. Probably should have asked a long time ago.
Noted, There's now a free spot open, but the game will continue on as normal.
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Thanks. Sorry I was so inactive and such. :/
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The prosecution is ready to rock.

In other words, confirmed and ready.
LadySuburu
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I dost forgot to lable the thread night.

Night gets a little longer.
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Night will end by the end of this weekend.
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0_o and NoHItter die.

The game begins again.

3 to lynch.
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Hi guys.
I'm a doctor, no worries.
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Vote: Diamond
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adam2046 wrote:

Vote: Diamond
This game really is a massive RVS, isn't it?
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vote Diamond
no it isn't
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