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Nyquill
is it avatar shifting season already
Sakura
it is always avatar shifting season for me.
Sakura
Other than that what's your read on Gumica.
Nyquill
He has one fucking post.

Though I must admit that post is awkward as heck.
Nyquill
more importantly, what do you think about his meta.
Sakura

Nyquill wrote:

more importantly, what do you think about his meta.
Hmm, his meta where he OMGUS's like heck? that seems to be the basis for his vote, but he doesn't even bother mentioning it, nor aggresively attacks CB, he just votes and says "Discuss!"
Nyquill
Trying hard to take a different approach on OMGUS? That could certainly be possible.

Say gumica, what do you have against CB.
Zexion

Tanzklaue wrote:

why would you unvote? now your vote is useless zexion. go vote someone!
I see... then Vote: Gumica. Tips like that will be really useful :D

Btw I voted to get more reactions from him, is that correct? I can't tell much from people atm but I'll sure try to do it soon.
Zexion
That's L-2, so I guess its ok.
Gumica
"everyone always thinks Gumica is scum anyways." -Sakura

right. my meta is omgus level gameplay. deal with it.
Unvote; Vote: Zexion
Sakura
But apparently from all the people voting you, you're confronting the one who has never played with you, makes me think i'm right about you being scum then.
Gumica
Then go ahead, but beware as you'd be next in lynchorder if you're wrong.
As about Zexion, I've never played him, yes, but is that a reason not to confront him?
Sakura

Gumica wrote:

Then go ahead, but beware as you'd be next in lynchorder if you're wrong.
As about Zexion, I've never played him, yes, but is that a reason not to confront him?
Considering if you both are town he has no way of knowing due to your scummy play, why is he a better target for your vote instead of the people that have played with you before?
Gumica
Better question to you is; Why wouldn't he be a better target than anyone else?

Oh also, I missed Nyq's question. Nothing much really, we are like arch-nemesis with CB in forummafia, but are kinda "best buds" in IRCmafia. Otherwise, nothing much going around.
Zexion

Gumica wrote:

"everyone always thinks Gumica is scum anyways." -Sakura

right. my meta is omgus level gameplay. deal with it.
Unvote; Vote: Zexion
That's more OMGUS right? I personally dislike that kind of votes so that's why I joined your wagon, I find that somewhat scummy.
Gumica
There is a fail in your argument. I voted CB out of RVS, not cause of an omgus. But i did a OMGUS on you.
Sakura

Gumica wrote:

Better question to you is; Why wouldn't he be a better target than anyone else?
Because you're scum and you'd rather avoid direct confrontation with people that have played with you before. Which is something i'm forcing you to engage on like we're doing now.
Sakura

Gumica wrote:

There is a fail in your argument. I voted CB out of RVS, not cause of an omgus. But i did a OMGUS on you.
Actually you voted CB out of OMGUS, because there was no other reasoning for your vote and he was voting you. The game has quite some info for a while, why did you try to make a vote on CB and shrug it off as RVS instead of playing with said info?
Zexion

Gumica wrote:

There is a fail in your argument. I voted CB out of RVS, not cause of an omgus. But i did a OMGUS on you.
Yep, you didn't vote CB in a OMGUS way, I read that due to Nyquill and Sakura saying it, so I assumed you would do it again.

BTW since I'm still a newbie at this I'm not sure if I am using the terms correctly, please tell me if I do a mistake.
Tanzklaue
zexion looks scummy due to inexperience really.

gumica might be real scum. he is at L-2 right?
Gumica
Lol, but you should've known already that I only write actively like this when i'm provoked. And why such a wild accusation so early?
Sakura

Zexion wrote:

Gumica wrote:

There is a fail in your argument. I voted CB out of RVS, not cause of an omgus. But i did a OMGUS on you.
Yep, you didn't vote CB in a OMGUS way, I read that due to Nyquill and Sakura saying it, so I assumed you would do it again.

BTW since I'm still a newbie at this I'm not sure if I am using the terms correctly, please tell me if I do a mistake.
http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?tit ... d_You_Suck
Sakura

Gumica wrote:

Lol, but you should've known already that I only write actively like this when i'm provoked. And why such a wild accusation so early?
Yeah, and you've been provoked for a while, so why try to cover up your vote on CB as RVS (which also means it's OMGUS to begin with), your playstyle isn't going to make you hide your actions and motives, at least not from me.
Gumica
OK, do it. Convice somebody, then I'll commence victory selfhammer (but you'll deal with Tanz afterwads, not me)
Tanzklaue

Gumica wrote:

Lol, but you should've known already that I only write actively like this when i'm provoked. And why such a wild accusation so early?
scum hunting isn't something limited to later stages of day 1 and beyond. at all stages there might be scum showing.

also accusations and reads bring pressure and thus information. it's a win situation for town.
Tanzklaue

Gumica wrote:

OK, do it. Convice somebody, then I'll commence victory selfhammer (but you'll deal with Tanz afterwads, not me)
god fucking stop being a bitch man.
Tanzklaue
really blackmailing town doesn't help anyone.
Zexion

Tanzklaue wrote:

zexion looks scummy due to inexperience really.

gumica might be real scum. he is at L-2 right?
I don't really know anything about metas yet, but I'm pretty sure you shouldn't be assuming inexperience as a scummy play.

And yeah he is at L-2.

Sakura wrote:

http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Oh_My_God_You_Suck
Yeah forgot about that wiki, thanks!
Sakura

Gumica wrote:

OK, do it. Convice somebody, then I'll commence victory selfhammer (but you'll deal with Tanz afterwads, not me)
http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?tit ... ng_as_Town
Sakura
A.k.a he's threatening to do the same crap he did in Newbie Mafia for All, where he was town, he's now scum trying to convince us he's town with this AtE.
Gumica
Lol'd Sakura.. Fine
Gumica
btw.. thanks for linking me something I already know. But why did you send it? You tought I was town so I'd be stupid? I doubt so from the posts you wrote moments ago. That would mean I'm scum right?
Gamble it Sakura. It's on you.
Unvote; Vote: Gumica [L-1] If I'm correct.
Sakura
Go ahead and help yourself get lynched scum. I linked it to show your intent of "Pulling this as town so they must think i'm town here too", but if you're actually town, it's still a good read for you.
Gumica
No, I won't, sorry. And you have no evidence to confirm that statement you just wrote either, so you're bluffing.
Tanzklaue
we're 24 hours into the day, ending it now would be... well shitty.

sakura you're sure that gumica isn't just reall really bad at mafia?
Sakura
"You have no evidence so you're wrong" Is one of my favorite scumtells. And in fact i DO have evidence:

p/2888811 here's your self hammer post in Newbie Mafia for All.

Gumica wrote:

lol ok, fine. watch me. cry when lylo starts now. unless of course, you are a scum as well.
Unvote
Vote: Gumica
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inb4 I point out GiF & Nav scumteam
Here's your post here where you threaten to self-hammer:

Gumica wrote:

OK, do it. Convice somebody, then I'll commence victory selfhammer (but you'll deal with Tanz afterwads, not me)
Then since we aren't falling for your bluff you decide to self vote instead putting yourself at L-1:

Gumica wrote:

btw.. thanks for linking me something I already know. But why did you send it? You tought I was town so I'd be stupid? I doubt so from the posts you wrote moments ago. That would mean I'm scum right?
Gamble it Sakura. It's on you.
Unvote; Vote: Gumica [L-1] If I'm correct.
Which not only is quite different from a self hammer it's an obvious attempt at AtE because you're previous bluff wasn't working.
Gumica
@Tanz; not bad; just sick of this shitty 1vN players, so I'm generaly oriented anti-town
@Sakura; Gamble it.
Sakura

Tanzklaue wrote:

we're 24 hours into the day, ending it now would be... well shitty.

sakura you're sure that gumica isn't just reall really bad at mafia?
If he is town then he should learn from his mistakes not repeat them in hopes to be read as town.
Tanzklaue

Sakura wrote:

Tanzklaue wrote:

we're 24 hours into the day, ending it now would be... well shitty.

sakura you're sure that gumica isn't just reall really bad at mafia?
If he is town then he should learn from his mistakes not repeat them in hopes to be read as town.
well true, but sometimes bad players will stay bad players no matter what *cough* setsuen *cough cough*
Sakura

Gumica wrote:

@Tanz; not bad; just sick of this shitty 1vN players, so I'm generaly oriented anti-town
@Sakura; Gamble it.
If you were trying to actually be a good townie I would consider it, but each of your posts make me feel more right about you, so if you're town how about you stop proving me right and start proving me wrong.
Nyquill
can we stop self voting. Self voting is playing against your wincon no matter what alignment you are unless you are jester.
Zexion
Not having evience doesn't prove someone is wrong, logically, that would only means is a posibility that should be developed further.

I'm pretty sure that if he was town, he just wouldn't want to make town gamble, right? After all town should help each other, and he's kinda overeacting since Sakura just asked Gumica why he was voting me, and that escalated quickly into this.
Sakura
On the other hand he isn't even trying to disprove my accusations, but tries to shrug them off with things like "Gamble" and "Tanz will kill you" and stuff. Which is another form of AtE known as AtF (Appeal to Fear)
Gumica
No, I'm not going to. Every time I come up with a point to proove something, you'd counter it with some shitty excuse. Not in the mood for it right now. So gamble it.

Also I went from selfhammer to [L-1] cause it's midnight here in central Europe, so I'm going to sleep. I don't have time for you all to decide when to vote on me. So all it takes now is for someone to hammer.
Gumica
LOLOLOLOLO. What I meant with "deal with Tanz" is his rage, like he did in that other game I selfhammered.
Sakura
It's still AtF you're trying to persuade me into thinking you're town by scaring me with things like "Gambling" or "You will be looked at tomorrow". Last time someone used AtF on me they flipped scum.
Zexion

Gumica wrote:

LOLOLOLOLO. What I meant with "deal with Tanz" is his rage, like he did in that other game I selfhammered.
But wasn't Tanz rage directed towards you?
Tanzklaue

Zexion wrote:

Gumica wrote:

LOLOLOLOLO. What I meant with "deal with Tanz" is his rage, like he did in that other game I selfhammered.
But wasn't Tanz rage directed towards you?
yes, which is why this is hilarious.
Gumica
@zex; it was, that's why i'm telling sakura to deal with it.

And interesting fact is, i perform AtF irl too on a everyday basis. Maybe you should know that for the future games
Sakura

Gumica wrote:

@zex; it was, that's why i'm telling sakura to deal with it.

And interesting fact is, i perform AtF irl too on a everyday basis. Maybe you should know that for the future games
So? That doesn't change your alignment.
Tanzklaue
maybe you shouldn't join future games gumica. we like to have fun you know.
Sakura
Anyway @Everyone: i'd still rather CalignoBot pitch in since Gumica's vote on him was the one gumica tried to disguise as RVS, which kind of puts CB in a very bad position fmpov should Gumica flip scum, so I wanna hear his thoughts first.
Gumica
Oho, so that's how it is? Maybe you shouldnt be such pricks. It's from you guys directly that i developed this mentality to be anti-town. Ever since that game when i was mafia onward. With that, I' finishing for today. Cya in 18h "guys"
Sakura

Gumica wrote:

Oho, so that's how it is? Maybe you shouldnt be such pricks. It's from you guys directly that i developed this mentality to be anti-town. Ever since that game when i was mafia onward. With that, I' finishing for today. Cya in 18h "guys"
And what has such mentaility gotten you?
Nyquill
Here we have a prime example of someone who can't keep their emotions in check.
Amianki
Vote: Gumica
Raging Bull

rEdo wrote:

Raging Bull wrote:

vote dake

Omgus.

And sakura go be bad somewhere else.
This. You have never responded Sakura's question, by the way. Why are you not okay with randomly putting people at L-1 at the beginning of the game? These votes will be changed soon enough anyway, and stuff like this generates discussion.
What question? I generally do not like it because scum can just randomly hammer on something like this. People voting for L-2 L-1 is enough for me to get suspicious.

@Nyquill, my bad. I thought it was you that put CB at L-2 since I saw your post saying L-2.
DakeDekaane
btw, we're on twilight, thanks Caligno.

vrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Raging Bull
the fuck gumica got lynched?
Raging Bull
What the hell Gumica?!?!?!?!??????. Do you even play to win or play to troll? Self hammer helps no one at all. All you do is playing against your wincon and ruining the fun for everyone else on the retarded basis of "I'm gonna teach you a lesson when I flip!!!!!!!!!!". If you were town, then you just screw us over by losing a vote, making yourself look worse and have people direct their attention to you, not scum hunt, and now end the god damn day earlier.
Raging Bull
Can I even post during twilight?
Tanzklaue
you can.

this is retarded. why are all games recently retarded?
Amianki
Unvote: Gumica
Vote: DakeDekaane

I don't even care what Gumica's response is anymore. This response looks abysmal.
Amianki
RB can be obvtown for the rest of the game too.
Tanzklaue
so what your're getting at is that you didn't hammer gumica with your vote?
Sakura

Tanzklaue wrote:

so what your're getting at is that you didn't hammer gumica with your vote?
He was already voting gumica, im surprised fake hammers still work.
Sakura
I agree tho Dake seems unfazed by the hammer.
Nyquill
well played
Raging Bull
HOYL SHIT SHIT SIT

CB ALREADY VOTED FOR GUMICA AND JUST VOTED GUMICA AGAIN.

fucking holy shit im sorry im in disbelief right now. I just saw the last vote count and CB already voted gumica. So I dont think he really even hammered gumica unless he's double voter. So Gumica is still L-1 right nw
Tanzklaue
gumica is at L-2 since CB switched votes to DD.

speaking of which.

that was a bad reaction to a quickhammer DD.

Vote: DD
Sakura
and Raging Bull, why are you overreacting like that
Raging Bull
I thought gumica was really hammered since I was reading people puting him at L-3 L-2 L-1 while never looking at the official votecount. I wanted to look at the votecount for wagon but I was in awe since CB already voted for Gumica and voted again. I was so shocked haha.
Nyquill
Unvote

Okay now things are really interesting/brain hurt.

DD reacts to everything like that, just saying.
Nyquill
Wait nvm DD wasn't even voting gumica wtf?
Topic Starter
GuyInFreezer
VC goes here.
Form a contract with me to become the magical girls!
Amianki

Nyquill wrote:

Wait nvm DD wasn't even voting gumica wtf?
Really? That's even worse then.
Nyquill
Vote: DakeDekaane

So like DD, why are you so eager to have gumica lynched when you aren't even on his wagon.
Topic Starter
GuyInFreezer
Votecount 1.04

Gumica (L-2): Sakura | Zexion | Gumica
rEdo (L-4): DakeDekaane
Raging Bull (L-4): rEdo
Nyquill (L-4): Raging Bull
DakeDekaane (L-2): CalignoBot | Tanzklaue | Nyquill

Not Voting: No one

With 9 alive, 5 votes to lynch.

The deadline is March 17, 6:40 PM EDT and approx. 4 Days 20 Hours 20 Minutes left from this post.
Raging Bull
Honestly it's hard to read Gumica. Reacts too emotionally when being questioned like here and newbie mafia. Idk how he was during perpetual.

Gumica wrote:

Then go ahead, but beware as you'd be next in lynchorder if you're wrong.
idk, this seems to ping me weird. idk why he said "if". If he was town, he probably won't need to say that.

Gumica wrote:

There is a fail in your argument. I voted CB out of RVS, not cause of an omgus. But i did a OMGUS on you.
Curious how you vote CB as RVS when game started a long while ago. You didn't even vote in your first post which I assumed probably didnt need RVS anymore.

@Tanz, why do you think being inexperienced is scummy?

@Sakura, You tunneled gumica to the point of self hammer, do you think hes still possible scum though?

Also
DakeDekaane
omg I miscounted again wtf I was lured because Caligno voted after this and no one moved votes, don't blame me.

Gumica wrote:

btw.. thanks for linking me something I already know. But why did you send it? You tought I was town so I'd be stupid? I doubt so from the posts you wrote moments ago. That would mean I'm scum right?
Gamble it Sakura. It's on you.
Unvote; Vote: Gumica [L-1] If I'm correct.
And you guys really think I want Gumica lynched so badly? Where did I say that?
Raging Bull
Actually nevermind, I thought Nyquill looked like he wanted Gumica lynched without voting for him, but nothing from his posts really made it look like that to me.
Raging Bull
Actually nevermind, I thought Nyquill looked like he wanted Gumica lynched without voting for him, but nothing from his posts really made it look like that to me.
DakeDekaane
Are you a broken recorder?
DakeDekaane
And about the fact abot I'm unfazed about a Gumica lynch is because idk what to think about him so yeah.
Sakura

Raging Bull wrote:

@Sakura, You tunneled gumica to the point of self hammer, do you think hes still possible scum though?
Yes.
Sakura
However i have this nagging feeling that Dake and Gumica can't be scum together, they can still both be town, but i doubt Gumica is town.
Raging Bull
my internet is gay as shit today sorry for double posts
Sakura
Basically at first i thought Caligno was overdoing things because your posts (RB) felt kinda like fake overreaction to me (I srsly doubt you wouldn't know how a twilight phase works), and CB went like "holy shit RB is super town", then accused Dake for a reaction that looked more like he already knew the hammer was fake, then Dake looked worse coz he explained his unfazedness instead of saying he already knew it was a fake hammer, so i'm at a loss here.
Raging Bull
I didn't know if some mods would like us to keep posting after a hammer has happened.

Idk, I'm stuck between gumica or dake currently. Moreso over Gumica than Dake at this point though

Vote:Gumica

Yeah Dake did seem unfazed by it, but at the same time Gumica is really random as hell which kinda explains it to me how he didn't know what to think of him.
Zexion
I'm also stunned, that fake hammer was realy convincing. Incredibly nice move Caligno.

Dake's reaction doesn't seem scummy to me, Tho I don't get the "vrmmmmmm" part.
DakeDekaane
Well Sakura, I think it's better to be honest about that situation instead looking like taking advance of your suppositions.

and the vrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm has to do something with my role.
Zexion

DakeDekaane wrote:

Well Sakura, I think it's better to be honest about that situation instead looking like taking advance of your suppositions.

and the vrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm has to do something with my role.
Then that means you could be a car (cars do that sound when they accelerate, right?), and cars can run over people, so its 100% secure you're mafia!!!!1111oneone

Not really but you still could be a car.
Sakura

DakeDekaane wrote:

Well Sakura, I think it's better to be honest about that situation instead looking like taking advance of your suppositions.

and the vrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm has to do something with my role.
You're going to make me paranoid this game too aren't you...
rEdo
Sakura so rekt

prod dodge, will catch up later
Raging Bull
jesus zexion.
DakeDekaane
If no one else has something to add, I'm hammering Gumica. I'm keeping my vote on rEdo for now.
Tanzklaue
i will add that we are still only 45 hours into this day.
DakeDekaane
okay, let's play cards while we wait the rest of the people.
rEdo

Raging Bull wrote:

What question? I generally do not like it because scum can just randomly hammer on something like this. People voting for L-2 L-1 is enough for me to get suspicious..
p/2929138
Random hammering like that is pretty much a scum claim, but yeah, L-2 and L-1 votes are the most likely ones to be scum's.

Unvote for now. Also, concerning Gumica.

Why the fuck would you even play Mafia if you're this self-centered. Simply because people want to test you just OMGUS them and act like a complete douche for the rest of the game. I won't vote you this time around. I want you to defend yourself. Take a stance. Not a defeatist one.
Topic Starter
GuyInFreezer
Votecount 1.05

Gumica (L-1): Sakura | Zexion | Gumica | Raging Bull
rEdo (L-4): DakeDekaane
DakeDekaane (L-2): CalignoBot | Tanzklaue | Nyquill

Not Voting: rEdo

With 9 alive, 5 votes to lynch.

The deadline is March 17, 6:40 PM EDT and approx. 4 Days 1 Hours 10 Minutes left from this post.

My internet access will be limited until Sunday due to inconsistent Wi-Fi connection, but it's not bad enough to drop by few times to make a votecount.
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