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GuyInFreezer
lynch requires only half of votes iirc
Tanzklaue

Sephibro wrote:

how does execute work
executioner can kill someone as soon as he has halfway to majority
pieguyn
I can immediately kill anyone who has half the required lynch votes. this kill ends the day
GuyInFreezer

pieguy1372 wrote:

Tanzklaue wrote:

executioner and dayvig are two different pair of shoes though.
they can both force surprise LYLOs if scum gets them

with my role, they just hold the shot till LYLO, pile a bunch of votes on someone, and use it

Sakura is obviously planning around this and should have given GIF the same restriction as me
Think.
If I am scum, that means scum has a double kill.
Do you think that's balanced?

In fact, the fact that there is no restriction on my kill confirms that I am town.
Tanzklaue
i also want to thank gif for killing the one uy who might have given me something awesome (probably not though)
Sephibro
i wanna see the flip gogo
GuyInFreezer
Why?

Because without restriction, scum has a cheap win 100% while town still has a chance to fuck up.
NoHitter
Wow my role is pretty OP too :O
It doesn't seem to have any restriction of target nor time.

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Sephibro

Sakura wrote:

Raging Bull wrote:

@mod Roles are non alignment indicative are they?
Roles were rolled before Alignment, neither role nor flavor can be used to determine alignment.
NoHitter
Thanks to GiF for giving that idea to have me recheck my role PM
pieguyn

GuyInFreezer wrote:

Think.
If I am scum, that means scum has a double kill.
Do you think that's balanced?

In fact, the fact that there is no restriction on my kill confirms that I am town.
baka
this is exactly why your claim is impossible. ROLES WERE ROLLED BEFORE ALIGNMENTS. SAKURA WOULD NEVER PUT A ROLE LIKE THIS IN THIS GAME WHEN IT HAS A CHANCE TO ROLL SCUM AND FUCK EVERYBODY OVER
pieguyn
I need one more vote. ffery's double vote means 12 votes in play -> 7 to lynch -> 4 to execute
pieguyn

Sakura wrote:

Raging Bull wrote:

@mod Roles are non alignment indicative are they?
Roles were rolled before Alignment, neither role nor flavor can be used to determine alignment.

Sakura wrote:

Raging Bull wrote:

@mod Roles are non alignment indicative are they?
Roles were rolled before Alignment, neither role nor flavor can be used to determine alignment.

Sakura wrote:

Raging Bull wrote:

@mod Roles are non alignment indicative are they?
Roles were rolled before Alignment, neither role nor flavor can be used to determine alignment.

Sakura wrote:

Raging Bull wrote:

@mod Roles are non alignment indicative are they?
Roles were rolled before Alignment, neither role nor flavor can be used to determine alignment.

Sakura wrote:

Raging Bull wrote:

@mod Roles are non alignment indicative are they?
Roles were rolled before Alignment, neither role nor flavor can be used to determine alignment.

Sakura wrote:

Raging Bull wrote:

@mod Roles are non alignment indicative are they?
Roles were rolled before Alignment, neither role nor flavor can be used to determine alignment.

Sakura wrote:

Raging Bull wrote:

@mod Roles are non alignment indicative are they?
Roles were rolled before Alignment, neither role nor flavor can be used to determine alignment.

Sakura wrote:

Raging Bull wrote:

@mod Roles are non alignment indicative are they?
Roles were rolled before Alignment, neither role nor flavor can be used to determine alignment.

Sakura wrote:

Raging Bull wrote:

@mod Roles are non alignment indicative are they?
Roles were rolled before Alignment, neither role nor flavor can be used to determine alignment.

Sakura wrote:

Raging Bull wrote:

@mod Roles are non alignment indicative are they?
Roles were rolled before Alignment, neither role nor flavor can be used to determine alignment.

Sakura wrote:

Raging Bull wrote:

@mod Roles are non alignment indicative are they?
Roles were rolled before Alignment, neither role nor flavor can be used to determine alignment.

Sakura wrote:

Raging Bull wrote:

@mod Roles are non alignment indicative are they?
Roles were rolled before Alignment, neither role nor flavor can be used to determine alignment.
GuyInFreezer

pieguy1372 wrote:

GuyInFreezer wrote:

Think.
If I am scum, that means scum has a double kill.
Do you think that's balanced?

In fact, the fact that there is no restriction on my kill confirms that I am town.
baka
this is exactly why your claim is impossible. ROLES WERE ROLLED BEFORE ALIGNMENTS. SAKURA WOULD NEVER PUT A ROLE LIKE THIS IN THIS GAME WHEN IT HAS A CHANCE TO ROLL SCUM AND FUCK EVERYBODY OVER
This "mist" can be solved easily if I kill someone tomorrow.
Are you scared, pie?
pieguyn
YOU ARE PUSHING AN ANGLE THAT YOUR ROLE CONFIRMS YOU AS TOWN DESPITE THE FACT THAT SAKURA HAS EXPLICITLY SAID THAT'S NOT HOW THE SETUP WAS DESIGNED
GuyInFreezer
Oh also I'll prove that double daykill doesn't work just in case.

Eclipse Sign: Twilight Spark - pieguy1372
GuyInFreezer

pieguy1372 wrote:

YOU ARE PUSHING AN ANGLE THAT YOUR ROLE CONFIRMS YOU AS TOWN DESPITE THE FACT THAT SAKURA HAS EXPLICITLY SAID THAT'S NOT HOW THE SETUP WAS DESIGNED
What would you do if I flip exactly as I claimed?
Tanzklaue
inb4 pieguy dies and gif goes on a mad kill rampage.
pieguyn

GuyInFreezer wrote:

pieguy1372 wrote:

YOU ARE PUSHING AN ANGLE THAT YOUR ROLE CONFIRMS YOU AS TOWN DESPITE THE FACT THAT SAKURA HAS EXPLICITLY SAID THAT'S NOT HOW THE SETUP WAS DESIGNED
What would you do if I flip exactly as I claimed?
you won't

get fucked ~
GuyInFreezer
Nah. I already checked with mod. I can't kill more that once per day.
Topic Starter
Sakura
GuyInFreezer (3) - Sephibro, pieguy1372, DakeDekaane
Navizel (2) - Tanzklaue, GuyInFreezer
Sephibro (1) - CalignoBot
DakeDekaane (1) - Raging Bull

Not Voting - fferyllt, Navizel, bubbajack8, Sephibro, Navizel, NoHitter

With 12 votes in play it takes 7 to lynch.
GuyInFreezer
There. Proved that there's no double kill.
Tanzklaue
pieguy, you're tunneling too much.
NoHitter
Dayum, Sakura took it back in another PM zzz
Pretend you saw nothing.
GuyInFreezer
lel
pieguyn

Tanzklaue wrote:

pieguy, you're tunneling too much.
nope

tell me what's wrong with my logic. there's nothing changing the fact that GIF slipped about his supposed claim
Tanzklaue
the fact that everyone gives nav a free pass also greatly disturbs me.

pieguy did you read everything up until now or do you still only work on basis of what sephi said?
Amianki
This is town pie.
GuyInFreezer

CalignoBot wrote:

This is town pie.
Ssh. Don't ruin the fun.
Tanzklaue

pieguy1372 wrote:

Tanzklaue wrote:

pieguy, you're tunneling too much.
nope

tell me what's wrong with my logic. there's nothing changing the fact that GIF slipped about his supposed claim
the flaw is that this is rolemadness and that similiar roles don't have to have the same restrictions.

i'm sure if gif enrolled scum sakura would've nerfed the role in some way shape or form.
Tanzklaue

CalignoBot wrote:

This is town pie.
it is, but i think he is tunneling on the wrong person.
GuyInFreezer

pieguy1372 wrote:

GuyInFreezer wrote:

What would you do if I flip exactly as I claimed?
you won't

get fucked ~
This is lame.
If you're gonna tunnel something, learn to not go back to your word.

Even if it's "impossible" for you, what would you do if I flip as I claimed?
pieguyn
I've read everything but I haven't looked at some of it in depth

as soon as I analyzed that post by GIF I knew he was mafia
pieguyn

Tanzklaue wrote:

the flaw is that this is rolemadness and that similiar roles don't have to have the same restrictions.

i'm sure if gif enrolled scum sakura would've nerfed the role in some way shape or form.
except Sakura already said roles were rolled before alignments. she can't go back and nerf the role if a full dayvig rolls scum


GuyInFreezer wrote:

This is lame.
If you're gonna tunnel something, learn to not go back to your word.

Even if it's "impossible" for you, what would you do if I flip as I claimed?
"THIS IS LAME"?
WHO'S THE ONE WHO'S SCARED NOW
Topic Starter
Sakura
Game is paused, one momment please.
GuyInFreezer
I can't enjoy being tunneled without some sort of game.
If I flip what I claim to be, you become a sephibro's doublevote for the entire D2.

If you're that sure of me being mafia (or Red team whatever), you wouldn't have any problem agreeing this rite?
Topic Starter
Sakura
Ok game can continue, sorry for the pause.
GuyInFreezer
"THIS IS LAME"?
WHO'S THE ONE WHO'S SCARED NOW
Who's scared?
You agree with my term and I self-vote. Deal or no?
Sephibro
can someone vote gif i wanna see the flip before going to sleep
pieguyn
ok so I'm apparently not supposed to have the 5-or-less-people restriction

GIF still slipped about his role. a full dayvig in this setup is outright impossible

GuyInFreezer wrote:

"THIS IS LAME"?
WHO'S THE ONE WHO'S SCARED NOW
Who's scared?
You agree with my term and I self-vote. Deal or no?
OKAY I AGREE
DIE
GuyInFreezer
Vote: GuyInFreezer
GuyInFreezer
Have fun being his doublevote.
GuyInFreezer
ok so I'm apparently not supposed to have the 5-or-less-people restriction
lol
pieguyn
this is gonna end the day. is everyone ok with that
GuyInFreezer
Go ahead. There's less than 24 hours left anyway.
Sephibro
BLOOD BLOOD BLOOD BLOOD
Amianki
Can we lynch sephi instead?
GuyInFreezer

pieguy1372 wrote:

this is gonna end the day. is everyone ok with that
So will your 100% correct read on GIF.
GuyInFreezer
WHERE'S MY FLIP PIEGUY
pieguyn
RED SIGN - EXECUTE THE FUCK OUT OF GUYINFREEZER


GuyInFreezer wrote:

pieguy1372 wrote:

this is gonna end the day. is everyone ok with that
So will your 100% correct read on GIF.
i'm not even using my tell on you so i'm not worried about that ;)
GuyInFreezer
Still broken still broken
GuyInFreezer
Inv/roleblock on one of {CB, Navizel, DD}
Doc on fery
GuyInFreezer
Oh also I'm here to tell you instead of fery that she's gonna be in V/LA until Thursday or something if she forgot to mention it.
GuyInFreezer

GuyInFreezer wrote:

Inv/roleblock on one of {CB, Navizel, DD}
Doc on fery
If I'm wrong on CB, feel free to switch to whoever CB suspects.
GuyInFreezer
That is all.

Make sure that pieguy acts like a sepibro's doublevote tomorrow.
pieguyn
quit trolling me

or in case that didn't count

Red Sign - Execute: GIF
GuyInFreezer
doublevote
doublevote
Topic Starter
Sakura
Everything suddenly goes dark, and the rope that was waiting for GiF suddenly hangs him itself...

GuyInFreezer (4) <------EXECUTED--- pieguy1372



GuyInFreezer Mima Green Team Day Vigilante was executed Day 1

It is now Night 1, send all night actions and prayers to me within 24 hours.
Topic Starter
Sakura
As you go back, you see sake spilled all over the meeting room, and it looks like the place was ransacked... there was probably a fight here?... and by the looks of it it seems the unfortunate victim was... Suika...



Tanzklaue Suika Ibuki Green Team 1-Shot Commuter has gone missing Night 1

It is now Day 2, which ends on March 19th at 22:15 GMT-5

Not Voting - Everyone

With 10 votes in play it takes 6 to lynch
Sephibro
"i will save my commute for next nights, i would be very very unlucky if they targeted me the first night"
his last words
pieguyn
pseudovote bubba
sheep me plz
Sephibro
fferyllt should know something btw
pieguyn
sephi why aren't you sheeping me
Sephibro
this-is-not-a-real-vote bubba
pieguyn
you do realize the only reason I'm not actually voting him is that I'm your double vote for the rest of the game
Sephibro
wat
pieguyn
GIF and I made a bet. if I was wrong about him I'd have to act as your double vote for the rest of the game. so I can't vote him till you do
NoHitter
Vote: Navizel

Hey guys! I detected metal on Navizel! *ping*
pieguyn
ok, revealing my gambit cause I don't think Sephi is here anymore and I don't wanna let a fake guilty run any longer

town: me, ffery, Sephi
null-town: NH, RB

scum: Dake, Caligno, Navi

Sephi and I are a neighborhood. I fakeclaimed 1-shot cop to him in the QT and I didn't die. there's no one else in the neighborhood so I think that should be enough to call him town

ffery, NH, and RB are town. GIF told me he has a lot of experience with bubba and he had him as town. leaving {Dake, Caligno, Navi}

Caligno's response to my GIF push was to do absolutely nothing so I wanna go here first
pseudovote caligno
pieguyn
are you actually serious

pseudovote Navi
fferyllt

Sephibro wrote:

fferyllt should know something btw

I should?

Flight delays and ahit. 1:30 am. Will check back in the morning.
NoHitter

pieguy1372 wrote:

are you actually serious

pseudovote Navi
Yes I am.
Amianki
pieguy

why would anyone believe you would be a 1-shot cop?
pieguyn
he asked me if I had anything besides a 1-shot executioner and I claimed I had a 1-shot cop and that I'd be on bubba

and why does that post not contain a vote for Navi?
Amianki
Because I want to solidify my read on you first. Your actions today reek.
pieguyn
1. why would that change anything? seems like you just forgot to vote your scum partner and had to make up some BS excuse to cover it

2. how'd you go from "this is town pie" on D1 to here? literally the only thing you said during my GIF push was "this is town pie". it was fencesitting at its finest and now you're backpedaling on it for no reason
DakeDekaane
wow pieguy, you need to go back and read the game again.

I'm mindlessly sheeping NH because I support him
Vote: Navizel
Amianki

pieguy1372 wrote:

1. why would that change anything? seems like you just forgot to vote your scum partner and had to make up some BS excuse to cover it

2. how'd you go from "this is town pie" on D1 to here? literally the only thing you said during my GIF push was "this is town pie". it was fencesitting at its finest and now you're backpedaling on it for no reason
1. Just because we have a claimed guilty doesn't mean we should end the day immediately.

2. Your attack on GIF looked really similar to how you attack as town, but look at how you've played D2 so far. Your reads make no sense. Your reason for sephibro being town makes no sense. Hell, your entire plan even makes no sense. The way you attacked GIF is closer to your town play, but when I look back at what you actually said, especially now with him flipping town, it makes a lot more sense from a scum perspective. The reason for attacking GIF is ridiculous, you deathtunneled on getting rid of a very strong town role, and now suddenly you have the game all figured out? It smells like shit.
pieguyn

CalignoBot wrote:

1. Just because we have a claimed guilty doesn't mean we should end the day immediately.
1. that literally has nothing to do with my actual point. voting someone immediately != ending the day immediately

on the other hand, since you said there was a claimed guilty, this means you knew there was a claimed guilty and didn't vote for it with only 2 votes on it. seems to me like you didn't think about it bc Navi is your partner


CalignoBot wrote:

2. Your attack on GIF looked really similar to how you attack as town, but look at how you've played D2 so far. Your reads make no sense. Your reason for sephibro being town makes no sense. Hell, your entire plan even makes no sense. The way you attacked GIF is closer to your town play, but when I look back at what you actually said, especially now with him flipping town, it makes a lot more sense from a scum perspective. The reason for attacking GIF is ridiculous, you deathtunneled on getting rid of a very strong town role, and now suddenly you have the game all figured out? It smells like shit.
2. which reads make no sense? and you could have just asked me about my reads if you wanted to know more about them, but instead you claim they make "no sense" without explaining why. nice scumpainting attempt

my read on Sephi makes perfect sense. if he was scum he was obviously rolefishing, but when I claimed PR he didn't do anything about it. they wouldn't go for Tanz over me with the knowledge that I have a 1-shot cop. (if you srsly think it makes no sense, I do have another ability on top of the execute, but there is no point in claiming it)

as for the plan, I would never do this without some sort of backup plan. I don't wanna elaborate exactly what, but there was a real chance of me getting up to 2 scum off this gambit

bolded is a blatant misrep. your entire argument is essentially I deathtunneled on town and that makes me scum which is the same bullshit BOP angle scum tend to push on me to get me mislynched. remember stack the deck where you derailed a scum wagon onto a town one? there is no way you can think this is actually a scumtell given you know firsthand how likely it is for town to fuck up. not only that, but I started deathtunneling BEFORE GIF CLAIMED FULL DAYVIG. your argument that I was deathtunneling to "get rid of a very strong town role" is thus complete BS

none of this explains your massive fencesit either
DakeDekaane
btw, all the whining Sephi did D1 had town motivation, he can't be scum.
DakeDekaane
Also pieguy, explain your first pseudovote on bubba
pieguyn

DakeDekaane wrote:

Also pieguy, explain your first pseudovote on bubba
it was a reaction test to see what Sephi would do in response to my cop "result". he followed along with it which is what I was looking for but at the same time he didn't actually vote bubba. I tried to pursue it a bit after his not-a-real-vote but he had already left so I couldn't get anything more from him.

what's your read on Calingo?
DakeDekaane
Though I could say he has some points about you, specially about the fakeclaim you did, but considering Sephi is town, it's actually a null tell.
About my read on him is clear null, from null-scum yesterday, I'd like to see more from him so I can actually get something from both you and Caligno. The indifference in NH's result is pinging me a bit tho.
Sephibro

DakeDekaane wrote:

btw, all the whining Sephi did D1 had town motivation, he can't be scum.
do you really think i wouldn't abuse that if i were scum?
Topic Starter
Sakura
"Yawn, wow you girls really wake up early, anyways this robot should have been keeping track of the votes so let's see"

Navizel (3) - NoHitter, pieguy1372, DakeDekaane

Not Voting - Sephibro, Navizel, fferyllt, bubbajack8, CalignoBot, Raging Bull

With 10 votes in play it takes 6 to lynch
"Wait... that can't be right"
*klunk* *chink* *klunk* *ding*
"There this should be better"


Navizel (2) - NoHitter, DakeDekaane

Not Voting - Sephibro, Navizel, pieguy1372, fferyllt, bubbajack8, CalignoBot, Raging Bull

With 10 votes in play it takes 6 to lynch
Sephibro
oh btw what's your metal detector thing hitter
fferyllt

fferyllt wrote:

Sephibro wrote:

fferyllt should know something btw

I should?

Flight delays and ahit. 1:30 am. Will check back in the morning.
This still doesn't make sense. What should I know?
NoHitter

Sephibro wrote:

oh btw what's your metal detector thing hitter
Basically a Gunsmith
Sephibro

fferyllt wrote:

This still doesn't make sense. What should I know?
you should know who targeted you tonight other than me
Navizel

DakeDekaane wrote:

I'm mindlessly sheeping NH because I support him
Vote: Navizel
wat
bubbajack8
Hey Sephi replace out. GiF flipped green.

NoHitter wrote:

Vote: Navizel

Hey guys! I detected metal on Navizel! *ping*
Explain.

pieguy1372 wrote:

ok, revealing my gambit cause I don't think Sephi is here anymore and I don't wanna let a fake guilty run any longer

town: me, ffery, Sephi
null-town: NH, RB

scum: Dake, Caligno, Navi

Sephi and I are a neighborhood. I fakeclaimed 1-shot cop to him in the QT and I didn't die. there's no one else in the neighborhood so I think that should be enough to call him town

ffery, NH, and RB are town. GIF told me he has a lot of experience with bubba and he had him as town. leaving {Dake, Caligno, Navi}

Caligno's response to my GIF push was to do absolutely nothing so I wanna go here first
pseudovote caligno
I'm also in a neighborhood, I also claimed my role. I also didn't die. I assumed neighbor hoods were town.

NoHitter wrote:

Sephibro wrote:

oh btw what's your metal detector thing hitter
Basically a Gunsmith
So you're saying Navi has a gun?

Also Vote: Navi I have strong reason to believe he's scum.
DakeDekaane

Sephibro wrote:

DakeDekaane wrote:

btw, all the whining Sephi did D1 had town motivation, he can't be scum.
do you really think i wouldn't abuse that if i were scum?
I haven't seen you do that so yeah, I firmly believe this.

Navizel wrote:

DakeDekaane wrote:

I'm mindlessly sheeping NH because I support him
Vote: Navizel
wat
You should be explaining what is this gun of yours, assuming NH is right.
Navizel
I'm just a mere Jailkeeper.
Navizel

DakeDekaane wrote:

I'm mindlessly sheeping NH because I support him

You should be explaining what is this gun of yours, assuming NH is right.
I thought you're supporting NH? Why the doubt now?
DakeDekaane
Not doubting in any moment, otherwise I'd be implying.

Also, does Jailkeeper have a gun?
bubbajack8

Navizel wrote:

I'm just a mere Jailkeeper.
Really? You may want to re-think everything you're saying right now.
Raging Bull
Prod dodge
Navizel

bubbajack8 wrote:

Navizel wrote:

I'm just a mere Jailkeeper.
Really?
Yes.
Navizel
If you guys don't want to believe me, what can I do? You're all believing NH's metal detector and decided to vote me.
DakeDekaane
I wasn't believing in him if he didn't make it public in D1. I highly doubt scum would do something like that, js.
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