yea, also plurality lynch gives scum less insentive to just sit back and do nothing.
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Activity is not an issue there, but the TeamLiquid site's mafia community uses a hybrid lynch mechanic. Achieve majority before deadline and the game day ends with a majority lynch. If it doesn't, then the player with the most votes at the end of the day is lynched.NoHitter wrote:
Because the forum's generally inactive. We used to do plurality lynches before. I admit that the hammer only system increases activity, but not enough. The compromise of lynching if the target is at least L-1 fits better.
And with that, especially if we're going with plurality lynch there's info about my role that town should be aware of.
I'm a double voter.
that's what we used to do around here aswell and what NH means with plurality lynch.fferyllt wrote:
Activity is not an issue there, but the TeamLiquid site's mafia community uses a hybrid lynch mechanic. Achieve majority before deadline and the game day ends with a majority lynch. If it doesn't, then the player with the most votes at the end of the day is lynched.NoHitter wrote:
Because the forum's generally inactive. We used to do plurality lynches before. I admit that the hammer only system increases activity, but not enough. The compromise of lynching if the target is at least L-1 fits better.
Town points for ffery for claiming doublevoter.
I'd be a fool to lie about it.Sephibro wrote:
confirm your double vote you fool
VOTE: GiF
2nd VOTE: fferyllt
Topic Starter
Mannosuke speaks again:
"Currently the vote tally for plurality vs majority is 50/50, also here's an updated vote count on screen... is it just me or the ammount of people increased... ah well doesn't matter."
Nyquill will be prodded at midnight if he hasn't posted by then.
"Currently the vote tally for plurality vs majority is 50/50, also here's an updated vote count on screen... is it just me or the ammount of people increased... ah well doesn't matter."
Raging Bull (4) - Navizel, CalignoBot, bubbajack8, DakeDekaane
Bubbajack8 (4) - Sephibro, pieguy1372, GuyInFreezer, NoHitter
Sephibro (1) - Tanzklaue
GuyInFreezer (1) - fferyllt
fferyllt (1) - fferyllt
Not Voting - Nyquill, Raging Bull
With 13 votes in play it takes 7 to lynch
Bubbajack8 (4) - Sephibro, pieguy1372, GuyInFreezer, NoHitter
Sephibro (1) - Tanzklaue
GuyInFreezer (1) - fferyllt
fferyllt (1) - fferyllt
Not Voting - Nyquill, Raging Bull
With 13 votes in play it takes 7 to lynch
Nyquill will be prodded at midnight if he hasn't posted by then.
Why are people even voting for bubbajack again?
No, because now you put me up for lynch.
And if that makes me look town because of my soft claim, then then its counter intuitive to vote for me.
3 Ok then. Also my fault since I reread my pm when I was going to explain and I cannot do what I wanted to do.
so it looks like im scared scum when i only had one vote on me. That's bullshit. Granted you don't know my meta, but I never considered one vote to be actual pressure.bubbajack8 wrote:
1. There's no pressure on you. Makes you look like scared scum.
2. If you were actually town it makes you a night target.
3. There's no town reason to soft a role that blatantly.
And if that makes me look town because of my soft claim, then then its counter intuitive to vote for me.
3 Ok then. Also my fault since I reread my pm when I was going to explain and I cannot do what I wanted to do.
also everybody who's town please vote the majority lynch thanks
Tanzklaue wrote:
yea, also plurality lynch gives scum less insentive to just sit back and do nothing.
??Sephibro wrote:
also everybody who's town please vote the majority lynch thanks
Unvote
yu gay oh, went 5-1/9 before dropping because I needed to do something. Pretty good record for first regionals I'd say haha.Tanzklaue wrote:
which card game?Nyquill wrote:
Hi v/la until Monday, children's card games tournament.
Will read.
why would plurality lynch give scum less incentive lurk? Lurking is probably what they'd want to do if a lynch is happening towards town without a hammer.
fferyllt wrote:
??Sephibro wrote:
also everybody who's town please vote the majority lynch thanks
Sakura wrote:
Please PM me whether you'd prefer plurality or majority lynch and I'll follow the one with the most votes.
I need to dial back the cryptic.Sephibro wrote:
fferyllt wrote:
??Sakura wrote:
Please PM me whether you'd prefer plurality or majority lynch and I'll follow the one with the most votes.
My question was "why do you two have such strongly different opinions about whether majority lynch is good/bad here?" Tanz gives some indication for his position. I don't know what yours is.
I have some biases from offsite play, but I want to understand the pros and cons HERE before I decide how to vote.
Also, a limit of 2 embedded quotes is seriously cramping my style.
Why notfferyllt wrote:
GiF why do you think bubbajack is scum?
Also the last few pages have been useless.
oh
imo tanzklaue wanted to say the opposite
imo tanzklaue wanted to say the opposite
Tanzklaue wrote:
yea, also plurality lynch gives scumlessMORE insentive to just sit back and do nothing.
and this is the scum QT of that game where we talked about abusing the plurality lynch http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/KA3ghGkDdmQEU
Why are you guys voting bubba?
im just saying that with plurality lynch mafia can just sit there and do nothing, if they need to achieve majority for a lynch they can't lurk until deadline
My god can we talk something other than this plurality/majority shit
it does nothing to move the game forward
it does nothing to move the game forward
Says the guy who doesn't want to talk about why he's voting the guy he's voting.GuyInFreezer wrote:
My god can we talk something other than this plurality/majority shit
it does nothing to move the game forward
FOS: NoHitter
FOS: Sephibro
calling fferylt town for claiming double-voter reeks.
FOS: Sephibro
calling fferylt town for claiming double-voter reeks.
CalignoBot wrote:
calling fferylt town for claiming double-voter reeks.
Sephibro wrote:
confirm your double vote you fool
fferyllt wrote:
VOTE: GiF
2nd VOTE: fferyllt
here's a consideration i made in Touhou V mafiaSakura wrote:
GuyInFreezer (1) - fferyllt
fferyllt (1) - fferyllt
do you need further explanation Caligno or is it clear enough?Sephibro wrote:
ok let's talk about doublevoter role
we recently had a game where there was a town doublevoter (rEdo) and a scum doublevoter (CalignoBot) (multiball)
there were 2 big differences between these 2 roles:
1. town dv has to post his second vote on topic, as if it was a normal vote, while scum dv could post it by pm to the mod
2. town dv appeared with his name in the votecount for both his votes, while the second vote of scum dv was anonymous
We all know I'm avoiding this question on purposefferyllt wrote:
Says the guy who doesn't want to talk about why he's voting the guy he's voting.GuyInFreezer wrote:
My god can we talk something other than this plurality/majority shit
it does nothing to move the game forward
Topic Starter
"Hi girls, its me again, just wanted to let you know that currently the majority vs plurality voting is 75/25, also i've updated the vote tally and have put it onscreen.
Please let me know if you see any mistakes
Raging Bull (3) - CalignoBot, bubbajack8, DakeDekaane
Bubbajack8 (3) - pieguy1372, GuyInFreezer, NoHitter
Sephibro (1) - Tanzklaue
Not Voting - Nyquill, Raging Bull, fferyllt, Sephibro, Navizel
With 13 votes in play it takes 7 to lynch
Bubbajack8 (3) - pieguy1372, GuyInFreezer, NoHitter
Sephibro (1) - Tanzklaue
Not Voting - Nyquill, Raging Bull, fferyllt, Sephibro, Navizel
With 13 votes in play it takes 7 to lynch
Please let me know if you see any mistakes
Dat no pagetop
Yeah. You forgot the part where roles were given before alignments.Sephibro wrote:
CalignoBot wrote:
calling fferylt town for claiming double-voter reeks.Sephibro wrote:
confirm your double vote you foolfferyllt wrote:
VOTE: GiF
2nd VOTE: fferyllthere's a consideration i made in Touhou V mafiaSakura wrote:
GuyInFreezer (1) - fferyllt
fferyllt (1) - fferylltdo you need further explanation Caligno or is it clear enough?Sephibro wrote:
ok let's talk about doublevoter role
we recently had a game where there was a town doublevoter (rEdo) and a scum doublevoter (CalignoBot) (multiball)
there were 2 big differences between these 2 roles:
1. town dv has to post his second vote on topic, as if it was a normal vote, while scum dv could post it by pm to the mod
2. town dv appeared with his name in the votecount for both his votes, while the second vote of scum dv was anonymous
Something about GiF makes me think he's town. But why do you want to see bubba dead the most?
Also in the DotA small town, scum was double voter. I don't think we had to post in QT to vote. Maybe all roles were revealed, but I think it's almost the same here since roles are not alignment indicative.
Hmm
let's flashwagon navizel for lulz (and for that newb mafia game)
vote: Navizel
let's flashwagon navizel for lulz (and for that newb mafia game)
vote: Navizel
I'm townreading him not because he's a doublevoter alone, but because he claimed doublevoter on D1.
Scum doublevoter would want to hide being a doublevoter until the last moment.
Scum doublevoter would want to hide being a doublevoter until the last moment.
How does claiming on D1 mean they won't be able to use it for scum-benefiting reasons? Hiding the double vote until the last moment is giving up a powerful role for your team for the ability to scumclaim later by suddenly bringing it out.
your bars are full of shit.
also that^
btw where is it said that roles are chosen before alignment - that's just stupid if you ask me
btw where is it said that roles are chosen before alignment - that's just stupid if you ask me
Actually why did fferylt claim when we didn't agree on MC?
I promise this gonna be gudGuyInFreezer wrote:
Hmm
let's flashwagon navizel for lulz (and for that newb mafia game)
vote: Navizel
That post is missing a vote.
Because keeping a hidden double vote is an auto-win in Ly-Lo.CalignoBot wrote:
How does claiming on D1 mean they won't be able to use it for scum-benefiting reasons? Hiding the double vote until the last moment is giving up a powerful role for your team for the ability to scumclaim later by suddenly bringing it out.
Truly the bestSephibro wrote:
ops i forgot it
vote: GuyInFreezer
This one's not missing.
Vote: GIF
Vote: GIF
Not missing what exactlyNavizel wrote:
This one's not missing.
Vote: GIF
a vote
this gonna be better
That's assuming you can get to LyLo alive first.NoHitter wrote:
Because keeping a hidden double vote is an auto-win in Ly-Lo.CalignoBot wrote:
How does claiming on D1 mean they won't be able to use it for scum-benefiting reasons? Hiding the double vote until the last moment is giving up a powerful role for your team for the ability to scumclaim later by suddenly bringing it out.
So put yourself in this situation: you are town and you're gonna die within 6 hours from poison.
what are you gonna do before your time is up?
what are you gonna do before your time is up?
I was asking navi but ok
^Sephibro wrote:
offend everybody
going to die anyway
Topic Starter
"Wow looks like you girls have been active lately, it makes me happy and as a better incentive i'll have cell phone straps 50% off today!"
"..."
"Oh guess you're only interested in the vote tally, which is updated on the screen."
"..."
"Oh guess you're only interested in the vote tally, which is updated on the screen."
Raging Bull (3) - CalignoBot, bubbajack8, DakeDekaane
Bubbajack8 (2) - pieguy1372, NoHitter
GuyInFreezer (2) - Sephibro, Navizel
Sephibro (1) - Tanzklaue
Navizel (1) - GuyInFreezer
Not Voting - Nyquill, Raging Bull, fferyllt, Sephibro, Navizel
Bubbajack8 (2) - pieguy1372, NoHitter
GuyInFreezer (2) - Sephibro, Navizel
Sephibro (1) - Tanzklaue
Navizel (1) - GuyInFreezer
Not Voting - Nyquill, Raging Bull, fferyllt, Sephibro, Navizel
Damn guys, you really know how to avoid questions 
Navi, why the vote on GIF?
Also, we aren't massclaiming today, ty.
Navi, why the vote on GIF?
Also, we aren't massclaiming today, ty.
K Navi your wish is granted.
You're gonna die at the end of day 1.
btw I'm medicine
You're gonna die at the end of day 1.
btw I'm medicine
this game gives me cancer.
And what's with the attempt to flash lynch Navizel whn you wanted bubba dead?
And what's with the attempt to flash lynch Navizel whn you wanted bubba dead?
Who said lynch?
I said wagon.
btw
unvote
Since the vote on him is unnecessary.
I said wagon.
btw
unvote
Since the vote on him is unnecessary.
oh, i thought it said lynch. And what was the claim for then?
RB is town, unvote pls
Unvote
Was that a poisoner claim or something like that?
Unvote
Was that a poisoner claim or something like that?
1-shot day-poisoner
Silly sephiSephibro wrote:
is that one of your usual fail claims gif?
my claims are either legit or trolling.
there is no such thing as failclaim.
yay for heavy imbalance in how fun and useful the roles are for each player \o/GuyInFreezer wrote:
1-shot day-poisoner
And you decide to use it in a pretty much null player, props to you if he flips scum.
[quote="DakeDekaane"
Navi, why the vote on GIF?[/quote]
maybe a counter would work
Navi, why the vote on GIF?[/quote]
maybe a counter would work
less than a minute ago
maybe a counter would workDakeDekaane wrote:
Navi, why the vote on GIF?
Best to use daykill onDakeDekaane wrote:
And you decide to use it in a pretty much null player, props to you if he flips scum.
wouldnt it be better to use in on a scum read player? And why did you not use it on bubba holy shit motherfuck. you don't want to answer my question.
Because I was waiting for him to do stuff that either looked town as hell or scummy. bubba can be very obvtown if he's one.
Anyway, I got bored waiting for him.
Anyway, I got bored waiting for him.
aaaaaaaaagh I'm in too many games
RB can be town for role PM shenanigans. Dake is town
GIF are you scum this game?
RB can be town for role PM shenanigans. Dake is town
GIF are you scum this game?
GIF are you scum this game?It won't be fun game if I tell you that now, would it?
I'm starting to realize that maybe I can't read sephibro since he's starting to look like supreme obvscum every god damn game.
In case Navi dies, we can either confirm or lynch GIF tomorrow. I can't read him at all as role likely means nothing in this setup.
fffff
fffff
You gotta try harder than that.DakeDekaane wrote:
In case Navi dies, we can either confirm or lynch GIF tomorrow. I can't read him at all as role likely means nothing in this setup.
fffff
She.NoHitter wrote:
I'm townreading him not because he's a doublevoter alone, but because he claimed doublevoter on D1.
Scum doublevoter would want to hide being a doublevoter until the last moment.
Because it's data that should be considered in the decision process.Raging Bull wrote:
Actually why did fferylt claim when we didn't agree on MC?
I'm a consensus based player. I don't really like having the doubled voice, but I do. So, it's on the table. And we can think about what scum has to counter it.
being obvtown produces a shitty metaCalignoBot wrote:
I'm starting to realize that maybe I can't read sephibro since he's starting to look like supreme obvscum every god damn game.
being obv anything produces shitty meta.
So here's what I'm getting out of this game so far:
Bubba random wagon produces little to no results.
GIF likes my meta a lot.
fery claims DV, pseudo LR inc.
People want RB dead...why?
Am I missing anything.
So here's what I'm getting out of this game so far:
Bubba random wagon produces little to no results.
GIF likes my meta a lot.
fery claims DV, pseudo LR inc.
People want RB dead...why?
Am I missing anything.
ffs this discussion is useless
Unvote: Raging Bull
Vote: Nyquill
Unvote: Raging Bull
Vote: Nyquill
a nightkillfferyllt wrote:
And we can think about what scum has to counter it.
That would actually be a decent outcome and it's one of the reasons I went ahead and claimed. I'm down.Sephibro wrote:
a nightkillfferyllt wrote:
And we can think about what scum has to counter it.
No one is pinging me this game zzz
Let's try using a different approach
Vote: Nyquill
Let's try using a different approach
Vote: Nyquill
not having other people ping you does not mean you find an excuse to ping someone else.
Though I appreciate the attention, thanks.
How about you let us know your reads in addition to that.
Though I appreciate the attention, thanks.
How about you let us know your reads in addition to that.