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milky228_old
The orange seems like a hybrid between a red and blue which could prove to be a really good keyboard if you don't know why you want a mechanical keyboard also I highly doubt that this keyboard will be silent, mechanical switches are loud I don't see why this will be any different. Also why is the average life span 50million on one table and 20million on the other, typo or made up numbers?

Overall this just seems like a huge marketing ploy by razer and it saddens me that it's probably going to work. Personally I bought my CM Storm Quickfire TK for gaming, it was marketed as a gaming keyboard and the switches were ideal for use in a game, i first heard of the keyboard watching people play a game and was recommended it by gamers. To me this sounds like red switches may aswell have been designed for gaming because that's mostly what they're used for. Just seems like another "for gamers by gamers" gimmick.
sstonn

milky228 wrote:

The orange seems like a hybrid between a red and blue which could prove to be a really good keyboard if you don't know why you want a mechanical keyboard also I highly doubt that this keyboard will be silent, mechanical switches are loud I don't see why this will be any different. Also why is the average life span 50million on one table and 20million on the other, typo or made up numbers?

Overall this just seems like a huge marketing ploy by razer and it saddens me that it's probably going to work. Personally I bought my CM Storm Quickfire TK for gaming, it was marketed as a gaming keyboard and the switches were ideal for use in a game, i first heard of the keyboard watching people play a game and was recommended it by gamers. To me this sounds like red switches may aswell have been designed for gaming because that's mostly what they're used for. Just seems like another "for gamers by gamers" gimmick.
The table refers to the new Razer switches having a 60 million keystroke lifespan while "standard mechanical switches" have only a lifespan of 20 million keystrokes. This is also entirely untrue, as all Cherry keyswitches have a lifespan of 50 million. Only the old MX blue switches had a lifespan of 20 million while Topre are rated at 30 million and ALPS at 10-15 million.
Weed

Rewben2 wrote:

how the heck does any mouse break after 2 weeks

I'm pretty sure if I threw my mouse against a wall every day it would be fine after 2 weeks

Anyways, aren't the new switches tactile? ew
well I guess I'm just unlucky? I've had products not work straight out of the box before. I suppose I'm used to it now
aBunny
why are normal ones called cherry?
Mathsma

sarasseo wrote:

why are normal ones called cherry?
I think that is the corporation that makes them.
sstonn

sarasseo wrote:

why are normal ones called cherry?
Cherry Corp. is the company that makes a certain model of mechanical switches. There are others such as Topre and ALPS. There have also been a whole bunch of discontinued switches that are really old and no longer used.
Noobsicle

milky228 wrote:

The orange seems like a hybrid between a red and blue which could prove to be a really good keyboard if you don't know why you want a mechanical keyboard also I highly doubt that this keyboard will be silent, mechanical switches are loud I don't see why this will be any different. Also why is the average life span 50million on one table and 20million on the other, typo or made up numbers?.
aka cherry browns

mechanical keyboards, silent?!? pshh..

20 million keystroke lifespan were the norm for old cherry blues/browns (the tactile switches), don't know what actually happened but now there are companies selling cherry blue/brown keyboards @ 50 million key lifespan (such as my cm storm quickfire tk brownzz)

probably just razer trying to look more professional xXx_420_JVlLgZz_/V0$c0p3Zz_|3re|-|!!1_xXx

waiting for someone to actually prove that this 0.3mm actuation point difference improves gaming performance by 9000 million fucktons
Topic Starter
[ -Neon- ]
man all this hate against razer :|
its allround the best gaming keyboard there is, lighten up, and what the hell do some people do with there stuff? trow it against a wall repeatedly?
NixXSkate

N3ON wrote:

man all this hate against razer :|
its allround the best gaming keyboard there is, lighten up, and what the hell do some people do with there stuff? trow it against a wall repeatedly?
Now now, I don't hate BlackWidows but the BlackWidow is definitely not the best gaming keyboard... lol
There's the Corsair K95, Ducky Shine 3, Logitech G710+, etc. Quickfire keyboards are pretty overrated though.
Topic Starter
[ -Neon- ]
well what i meant that, people find it the best keyboard allround, yes there are 200+ euro keyboards but are they really worth it?
lately i saw a poll wich was the best keyboard u think and blackwidow had double the votes then the 2nd. so lets say its the most popular
NotCookie_old
It's a Razer product, of course it's going to win a popularity contest. Fact remains that the quality and performance is terrible on blackwidows, RELATIVE TO OTHER MECHANICAL BOARDS. If you've never tried a good board, of course you'll think a blackwidow is good.
GoldenWolf

NotCookie wrote:

It's a Razer product, of course it's going to win a popularity contest. Fact remains that the quality and performance is terrible on blackwidows, RELATIVE TO OTHER MECHANICAL BOARDS. If you've never tried a good board, of course you'll think a blackwidow is good.
^exactly this


popularity =/= quality, the BW has a terrible quality and keys break faster than I can hit them, don't ever buy it it's not worth the price

same goes for every razer product, not worth their price even if they're actually good because it breaks before you can even use it
Wishy
Tell that to my Mamba, been using it for over 10hs every day for the last 5~ years and it's still working perfectly.
Noobsicle
sounds like you need to be convinced by entering a keyboard-only forum read here for more information

also its the most popular because its been advertised and showcased to death everywhere on the interwebs, its available pretty much everywhere as well

there are a lot of cheaper (or similarly priced) and more reliable keyboards than the blackwidow, idk if you're just looking at duckys or w/e

^lol you're just one person

here are other people with mambas

http://www.gamespot.com/forums/pc-mac-d ... -29089004/
http://www.gamespot.com/forums/pc-mac-d ... -27112396/
http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/776 ... just-died/
http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/s ... ?t=1253819

you can pretty much google "(insert razer product) not working" and it'll popup with results y0
iderekmc

Wishy wrote:

Tell that to my Mamba, been using it for over 10hs every day for the last 5~ years and it's still working perfectly.
Seems that u were lucky xD, like when someone wins the lottery
PlasticSmoothie
Razer mice seem to be fine, I rarely see anything about them breaking. Keyboards tend to break a lot though.

No clue about razer's other stuff though.
buny

PlasticSmoothie wrote:

Razer mice seem to be fine, I rarely see anything about them breaking. Keyboards tend to break a lot though.

No clue about razer's other stuff though.
headsets, mice and mousepads are probably the only things that razer can make decently
Breiz

buny wrote:

PlasticSmoothie wrote:

Razer mice seem to be fine, I rarely see anything about them breaking. Keyboards tend to break a lot though.

No clue about razer's other stuff though.
headsets, mice and mousepads are probably the only things that razer can make decently
I just can't stand the cheap feel when clicking with razer mice. Also.. who the hell uses headsets? They combine a shitty mic with absurdly bad sound quality for way too much money. They also look ridiculous, yes i'm looking at all those riced >muh razer gear products. Mousepads are fine.
TakuMii

PlasticSmoothie wrote:

Razer mice seem to be fine, I rarely see anything about them breaking. Keyboards tend to break a lot though.

No clue about razer's other stuff though.
My brother's DeathAdder's buttons stopped working... the problem isn't exclusive to their keyboards.
Purple
I think everyone is ignoring the fact that the only thing that made the blackwidow somewhat useful and reliable was the Cherry MX mechanical switches. Now it has switches made by who would fucking know. The result?



Death

God they even inscribed the Razer on the switches, as if that would make anyone feel better

man all this hate against razer
I don't hate them, it's the obvious 60 million keystrokes marketing fraud that pisses everyone off

waiting for someone to actually prove that this 0.3mm actuation point difference improves gaming performance by 9000 million fucktons
It won't increase stamina for osu!, and I don't see what mechanical switches could help you with in other games (bunnyhopping??)
buny

Breiz wrote:

I just can't stand the cheap feel when clicking with razer mice. Also.. who the hell uses headsets? They combine a shitty mic with absurdly bad sound quality for way too much money. They also look ridiculous, yes i'm looking at all those riced >muh razer gear products. Mousepads are fine.
Everybody I know that owns a razer headset is quite happy with it, and they all have crisp mics so I assume they're good quality too.
I also own one and have no problems with it, the sound is a lot better than my beats which I'm happy with that improvement.

Also implying you don't look ridiculous wearing ANY headset, and you're most likely going to be wearing them in an environment where nobody can see you so why would it matter?
Noobsicle

Purple wrote:

Now it has switches made by who would fucking know.
God they even inscribed the Razer on the switches, as if that would make anyone feel better
I don't hate them, it's the obvious 60 million keystrokes marketing fraud that pisses everyone off
apparently they're partnered with kailh, a chinese company that sells cheaper switches (someone linked an imgur/geekhack thingy on page 2/3, should check that out)

here sum images taken from everywhere
you can see the kailh logo on the switch body



yeah pro MLG players will definitely notice this

other marketing bs: recolouring switches to bright gamer razer green and orange to reel in the fanboys and labeling them as THE FIRST EVA GAMER SWITCH XD XD. 60m keystroke as mentioned, 0.3mm actuation difference = pro-er gamer swag undefeatedness etc, the over-exaggerated claims by this guy

hue
buny

Noobsicle wrote:

Purple wrote:

Now it has switches made by who would fucking know.
God they even inscribed the Razer on the switches, as if that would make anyone feel better
I don't hate them, it's the obvious 60 million keystrokes marketing fraud that pisses everyone off
apparently they're partnered with kailh, a chinese company that sells cheaper switches (someone linked an imgur/geekhack thingy on page 2/3, should check that out)

here sum images taken from everywhere
you can see the kailh logo on the switch body



yeah pro MLG players will definitely notice this

other marketing bs: recolouring switches to bright gamer razer green and orange to reel in the fanboys and labeling them as THE FIRST EVA GAMER SWITCH XD XD. 60m keystroke as mentioned, 0.3mm actuation difference = pro-er gamer swag undefeatedness etc, the over-exaggerated claims by this guy

hue
Noobsicle

buny wrote:

popularity is everything

._.
Purple
Man if I got paid to look like an idiot, I would definitely be an idiot, can't really blame the guy

20$ is 20$
Rewben2
Well yeah, Doublelift (the guy in the picture) is on clg which is sponsored by razer, it's part of his job to do shit like promoting their products. I doubt he even agrees with what he's saying, lol. Because he is a *top player* people will also buy into everything he says, so he's probably getting a ton of money for doing that as well.


Also, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmjEs0BB8ZM this
Purple
Cookiezi forfeited hundreds of thousands of dollars by quitting, 5 years from now Razer will be making a tablet specifically for osu! and running adverts with rrtyui instead of him
Rewben2

Purple wrote:

Cookiezi forfeited hundreds of thousands of dollars by quitting, 5 years from now Razer will be making a tablet specifically for osu! and running adverts with rrtyui instead of him
And we will bash the tablets because they are made by Razer and call rrtyui a sellout for supporting it
Noobsicle

Purple wrote:

Cookiezi forfeited hundreds of thousands of dollars by quitting, 5 years from now Razer will be making a tablet specifically for osu! and running adverts with rrtyui instead of him
soz osu! isn't as big popular as league of lolicons

therefore it won't go according to plan

altho razer can just slap on razer logos on any tablet, market it to the LoLs and claim themselves that osu! can improve your aim and accuracy in the lolicons and gg osu! will have more players and razer swims in ca$h cus yea

just realised how successful razer is in terms of marketing, wp ._.
TakuMii
Wait a sec... they're partnered with Kailh? And they're bragging about durability?
Noobsicle

YayMii wrote:

Wait a sec... they're partnered with Kailh? And they're bragging about durability?
welp its either kailh or the ™ that are making the switches themselves

either way i honestly don't believe they will last longer than cherry switches razer's asspulls2stronk also rip in peace esc stem
Fullerene-
Razer switching to a lower quality manufacturer to save on costs, attempting to make up with relentless advertising. Wouldn't say I'm surprised. Not at all.

Though I wish they'd rebrand Topre or something because I'd rather not pay $400 for one :x
Pizzicato
>"clones" of the original mx switches
>are cheaper
>are made in china
GoldenWolf

Pizzicato wrote:

>"clones" of the original mx switches
>are cheaper
>are made in china
I can't read it, this color is breaking my eyes
TakuMii

rCaliberGX wrote:

Though I wish they'd rebrand Topre or something because I'd rather not pay $400 for one :x
Cooler Master is doing that, actually (well, not rebranding it, since they're working with Topre). Their upcoming NovaTouch TKL uses Topre 45g switches (modified to be compatible with Cherry MX keycaps) and will cost approx. $150.
Noobsicle

Pizzicato wrote:

>"clones" of the original mx switches
>are cheaper
>are made in china
and they're selling them for the same price as the blackwidows with cherry switches :/
yumether
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buny

Ryford wrote:

I HAVE TO REMEMBER MORE COLORS?
Doubt it, razer won't overtake cherry MX switches with their budget overpriced brands
yumether
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Topic Starter
[ -Neon- ]
well if i take all of your advice...
i guess i have to look out for a different keyboard when this breaks, and everything is good except razer and everything that works with razer :roll:
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