So, if Hard-rock module is unatractive to this, you are basically saying that you want something that makes the game easier and more convenient. Ok, make it a <1.0x mod then.
This isn't a step down in difficulty. It's a step to the side. It is exactly the same map, but flipped. There is no reason this should be anything but x1.0.Heinzen wrote:
So, if Hard-rock module is unatractive to this, you are basically saying that you want something that makes the game easier and more convenient. Ok, make it a <1.0x mod then.
Unranked mod, solely meant to practice very unusual patterns. HR is not ranked in mania either.Soaprman wrote:
Hard Rock's increase of other difficulty factors is a big part of what makes it unattractive for this. Not everyone wants the whole bundle!
As for the "maps meant to be like that" argument, we've already got a far more damaging mod in the form of osu!mania's Random mod.
Finally some thought about us lefties o/Raiku wrote:
(wont somebody PLEASE think of the lefties!)
Soaprman wrote:
This isn't a step down in difficulty. It's a step to the side. It is exactly the same map, but flipped. There is no reason this should be anything but x1.0.Heinzen wrote:
So, if Hard-rock module is unatractive to this, you are basically saying that you want something that makes the game easier and more convenient. Ok, make it a <1.0x mod then.
I should also note that this is a usability request. It's about comfort. It's akin to a left-handed person asking for some lefty scissors. Though I support it also because it sounds fun.
What's easier for some will be harder for others.Heinzen wrote:
If you can't do things from one side to the other, flipping a map makes it convenient and easier.
This is excellent advice, which addresses a fundamental error in a lot of maps. Even if nothing's copypasted, a map can still feel balanced by considering directional changes. That's the first step towards negating the need for this thread, but people will keep making this kind of mistake and the BAT probably won't care about it as much. If I'm wrong in that assumption, then even better.Soaprman wrote:
What's easier for some will be harder for others.Heinzen wrote:
If you can't do things from one side to the other, flipping a map makes it convenient and easier.
Also, fun activity: when modding maps or even when editing your own maps, keep an eye out for long periods of clockwise or counterclockwise movement.
Not sure what you mean about mania problems since it doesn't really matter whether you're leftie or rightie... the only case where I'd see this flip mod interesting would be on BMS charts, but they are all converts and aren't official osu!mania maps.Cozzzy wrote:
Yes please
I'm not a leftie, but another example of usage: There are so many beatmaps I can't play without HR. Not because of low AR (I get this on some AR10 maps too), but just because I've developed bad habits from playing them so much that I anticipate certain parts of the map and can't hit them at all because of this - but the HR flip fixes this for me. This would also fix loads of mania problems~
Kyou-kun wrote:
any advantage you could get from this is from either placebo or just being bad
stop gay
And make the current maps which are "harder" for right-handed people easier by letting them mirror them. It doesn't make it fair, it just makes it easier for everyone, if that was your point. Therefore it does indirectly decrease difficulty, if anything at all, because you can choose when to use it.Full Tablet wrote:
This would make the game a bit more fair IMO. For example: Right bottom corner to left upper corner jumps are bit more harder than left bottom corner to right upper corner jumps, and if I was a left-handed, the situation would probably be reversed (so some maps would be a bit easier for right-handed people than left-handed people, or vice-versa).
...it would have to be ranked.TheVileOne wrote:
I wouldn't try and pull the practice card. peppy doesn't want a practice mode.
If players are bad, they would benefit. Thank you for pointing this out.Kyou-kun wrote:
...or just being bad
^ this.thelewa wrote:
the same goes for losing focus with the more you play a map, you can even get better at that with practice
you can fix everything you pointed out with practice
Precisely my point. osu!mania players can accomplish similar results by changing their scroll direction and reversing their key mappings.Primula wrote:
Temp solution: Flip your monitor and your tablet mapping.
And a correct skin of course.Primula wrote:
Temp solution: Flip your monitor and your tablet mapping.
Or CTRL + A then CTRL + H in the editor...Halogen- wrote:
Precisely my point. osu!mania players can accomplish similar results by changing their scroll direction and reversing their key mappings.Primula wrote:
Temp solution: Flip your monitor and your tablet mapping.
It's a mission to do... and that's why no one does it.Ekaru wrote:
EDIT2: Okay, I can. I 100% support this now that it can already be done, just in an inconvenient way.