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音效什么..其实我打算等都完成了再一点点加的...o3o 现在在专心做hard...有些nor的音就不能抓的太准...(要不然hard就难做了XDarsrun wrote:
just myself's ideas.
[normal]
00:08:318(3)提到00:08:156,后面三个circle依次提前。这里的音的确不对..我又改了下
00:12:213(3)提到00:12:050.(4)提到00:12:213。去掉后两个circle。00:12:699made a slider.^
00:11:245(1,3,4)+fin ??
00:14:160(2,3,4,5)balance diatance snap. ??
00:26:544(1~7)+whistle 00:30:934(5~9)+whistle o3o
00:28:495 new combo 感觉原先这样正好-3-
00:34:349~add (4,5,6) 修正
00:41:910~balance (2,3,4,5) DS。(4~8)+whistle 还是不喜欢ds.... :(
00:46:300(6)去掉CLAP。修正
01:26:758(1~6)+whistle另外这段也可以改成1/2拍的三小连击组合。3小连原本是我在easy里这么排放的..放在nor里的话...我怕combo数会超过hard![]()
01:38:008起+clap. 我在前面一个note上加了更多音效![]()
01:39:508~(1,2,3,4)balance DS.01:41:008~(1,2,3,4)改了下排布。稍作了修改
01:42:883+circle![]()
01:48:508(1)balance DS。![]()
02:13:820(16)balance DS。![]()
02:20:195(1)balance DS。![]()
给很多1/1拍和1/3拍打击的circles增加CLAP,以增强节奏感和打击感。
>///<S_PAD wrote:
moe moe ah-chan
>///<Nagato_Yuki wrote:
moe~moe~ah~
ds...用起來..完全不順手..不知道爲什麽osu_CN_yaya wrote:
额。恕我直讲。
你还没有懂怎样做map![]()
首先要学习一下怎样使用DS,就是DISTANCE SNAP,就是间距。在同样的节奏下,间距要是一样的。
主要是。多打一些map,从中学点东西。
sorry...im forget your kudosu....Gabi wrote:
http://osu.ppy.sh/s/9564
http://osu.ppy.sh/s/10041
you upload 2 of the same song??????? you know you can just ask a BAT to ungrave your song.
Title "Ryo(o2jam) - Fantazindy" is wrong
Real Title "Ryo - Fantazindy"
i'll be honest with you, this is one song that is extremly difficult to time. nearly impossible without the creators timing. i think you should put this map at hold and map something else.
you know you can just ask a BAT to ungrave your songi dont know ask...
So do I (* *)AngelHoney wrote:
sorry...im forget your kudosu....Gabi wrote:
http://osu.ppy.sh/s/9564
http://osu.ppy.sh/s/10041
you upload 2 of the same song??????? you know you can just ask a BAT to ungrave your song.
Title "Ryo(o2jam) - Fantazindy" is wrong
Real Title "Ryo - Fantazindy"
i'll be honest with you, this is one song that is extremly difficult to time. nearly impossible without the creators timing. i think you should put this map at hold and map something else.you know you can just ask a BAT to ungrave your songi dont know ask...![]()
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(my english is so poor....
thank you~Lokamp wrote:
Normal+
00:11:726 (2,3,4,5) - irregular spacing... fix it!
00:41:910 (4,5) - link them with a slider
00:49:161 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,1,1) - advise players about this change of bpm with a storyboarded "speed up!" advice
00:56:956 (9) - new combo
01:43:008 (2) - move it to 01:42:883 and link it with 2nd with a slider
02:12:508 (9) - new combo
02:13:633 (15,16,17) - weird change of spacing... fix it, please.
Hard
00:46:056 (4,5) - link them with a slider
01:53:008 (5) - new combo
01:54:508 (1,6) - new combo on 6th, remove previous new combo
Maybe try to add more sliders on Normal+ mode, the rest was fine. Have your star ;3
thank you~Leorda wrote:
NI HAO!
[General]
1) Use 1/4 Beat Snap Divisor and resnap all notes (Timing -> Resnap all notes -> and click yes)
0.0 ill try..
2) Lots problem in AIMod. To fix this use a DISTANCE SNAP and open AIMod (Ctrl+Shift+A). If the line is green, the problem solved, if the line is red, you've gotta fix it. thank you~
[Normal+]
00:46:707 (1,1,1) - No new combo
00:47:682 (1,1,1) - ^
01:43:008 (2) - Move forward to red tick
Since I like your song
I give you a kudosu star
thank youxxheroxx wrote:
Mod Infos:
Green: Suggestions.
Orange: I think you should fix this.
Red: You must fix this.
Start Suggestions:
Set a preview point. done
Cut the mp3. ???
Why don't you make an Easy or an Insane?i think i cant...![]()
[Normal+]
00:16:594 (6) - Hmm i don't like this slider, it's confusing and strange too. Do something else.done
01:07:899 (3,1,2,3) - Spacingdone
02:20:008 (1,1) - ^done
[Hard]
Spacing is weird and partially wrong. Use always distance snap
01:17:687 (25) - Omgthis slider is evil and hidden. done
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01:32:383 (2) - This slider is hiddendone
01:33:133 (2) - ^done
01:33:883 (2) - ^done
01:34:633 (2) - ^[/color]done
01:37:008 (x) - Add a breakdone
01:42:508 (1) - This slider is confusing and strange too. Do something elsedone
虽然hard也可以很多jump,不过DS还是最重要的,对于新手来说间距是判断点hit时机的最佳判断点osu_CN_yaya wrote:
额。恕我直讲。
你还没有懂怎样做map![]()
首先要学习一下怎样使用DS,就是DISTANCE SNAP,就是间距。在同样的节奏下,间距要是一样的。
主要是。多打一些map,从中学点东西。
我..我..我這次nor完全都1.0了...XDBreeze wrote:
虽然hard也可以很多jump,不过DS还是最重要的,对于新手来说间距是判断点hit时机的最佳判断点osu_CN_yaya wrote:
额。恕我直讲。
你还没有懂怎样做map![]()
首先要学习一下怎样使用DS,就是DISTANCE SNAP,就是间距。在同样的节奏下,间距要是一样的。
主要是。多打一些map,从中学点东西。
所以space乱的话,map就没法玩了
早期的很多map就是这样╮(╯_╰)╭,建议还是再开着DS重新排列一下
一开始做map的时候这种BPM不好抓的map也不是那么好做的
还有像[normal+]中01:04:753 (1)跟前面的接得那么紧,几乎不可能点到300了
做map的时候一定要自己test一下,不然有些离谱的地方是发现不了的
话说,你这个map是为了aprroved做的吧,rank我觉得没可能-.-
Normal的spacing问题我就不说了,开着DS就可以解决
[Hard]
- 00:27:520 (1) - 没和前面9的结尾完全重合
- 00:31:910 (10) - 超过方格的编辑区了,最好别这样
- 00:46:056 (4) - 虽然slider本身是1/2BPM, 但是和前面的间距不要变,spacing修正一下
good luck to your map
star
Thank you ~Gens wrote:
[General][Normal+]
- You'll definitely need an easier difficulty.Maybe...i will..
- Cut the mp3, at the end there's a gap of silence of about 30 seconds.i think its ok..
- Capitalize the source properly and erase the tag, since it's already used in source.fix
- Delete "o2jam - Fantazindy (AngelHoney).osb" and full submit.fix
01:08:348 - The break would feel better (musically speaking) if it ended here. In other words, delete 01:07:449 (1,2,3). Also, try using the normal sampleset instead of soft here.fix
- Add Kiai like in Hard.fix
01:11:954 (1) - Storyboard a 2x warning please.i dont know SB....![]()
[Hard]00:41:178 (1) - Doesn't sounds good at all.fix
- Raise stack leniency a bit...???
- Disable countdown here too? I know it won't make any difference, just to evade some problems.i think its ok..
01:06:550 (1) - Random 2x section...? ???
01:08:348 (1) - Doesn't sounds good at all, maybe it's because you used 1/8 snap.fix
01:11:954 (1 and on) - Maybe extend each slider to the nearest white/red tick?fix
~ ~ ~
Mmm, yes, I think that's it. O2Jam~BG is RYO...
Yes. Please make it.m(_ _)mjericho2442 wrote:
will mod soon, although i wanna make a diff XD, if you dont mind i will get you an easy and an insane whipped up or just an insane? your choice, just saying i want to make a diff if you would allow me
coooooooooooooool!!jericho2442 wrote:
phew ok this was not easy to map, heres the complete insane map but it aint hitsounded yet, i will need a lil more time to do that, also making a storyboard so gotta finish that too
simply just take all the files out of this zip folder and put them into the folder for this song to add my difficulty
[attachment=0:24a3d]Fantazindy map.zip[/attachment:24a3d]
lol...jericho2442 wrote:
ok insane fully hitsounded and a few problems fixed, will finish SB off after a break, but wow what a wierd song for timing, ive had to use 1/4 and 1/6 in different area's to get this to sound good lol XD
[attachment=0:f5b58]Ryo - Fantazindy (AngelHoney) [jericho2442s Fantasy].osu[/attachment:f5b58]
do not kudo me for map update's or maps
EDIT: oh and dont worry i will SB you some x2 warnings into your maps for you
Yes!i need SB...on my maps....can you...jericho2442 wrote:
ahhhh finally easy is done, enjoy, if you want the SB on your maps just tell me too
[attachment=0:1c573]Ryo - Fantazindy (AngelHoney) [jericho2442's Easy].osu[/attachment:1c573]
thank you very much!!!jericho2442 wrote:
put these files inside this zip into your song folder
[attachment=0:37dfe]Fantazindy map.zip[/attachment:37dfe]
enjoy the SB
abalee wrote:
SB is good.
others are not access to my rankable standard. sorry.
i think your diffs is ok...jericho2442 wrote:
hmm yea all the diffs are tricky, i admit i even went all out with mine hahahaha, but i had to to make it harder than [Hard]
maybe you would be better going for approved? dunno try asking a few more ppl about it
if needed though i can make my diff a bit easier
thanks and srry you found so many probs. kinda got these diffs made fast, (2 diffs and a SB in 2 days >_>) XDArmin wrote:
[jericho2442's Easy]
00:05:884 (1) - Ugly slider o.o make it better: i kno, im horrid at making curves >_>, bak to my style
00:09:779 (1,2) Make them symmetrical fixed
00:31:666 (Break) This is a short break, you can remove it fixed
00:46:542 (1) Spacing i dont see the problem, a few combo's before this spacing changed closer
00:49:161 (1) Stack this perfectly with the end of the previous slider fixed
01:01:645 & 01:02:620 (Time section) These time section are on the breaks. These are unnecessary, so you can remove them.fixed
01:11:954 (6) Add another repeat then move 1/4 later the spinner (and make it shorter of another 1/4) fixed
01:34:633 (4) Add a clap
[jericho2442's Fantasy]
All fine, just:
to 00:40:528 (5) - 00:48:983 (8 Some of these hitobjects are not snapped! Fix it manually and don't use the command Resnap all the notes, because there are hitobjects in 1/3 and 1/4 together 00:40:203 - from here its 1/3. 00:42:153 - here we go 1/4, 00:45:323 - here its 1/6. so using them, there is no unsnapped notes, but yea horrid beat timing on this song :/
01:35:383 (5) Clap at the start+clap at the end) fixed
02:14:008 (5) Finish fixed
@_@ starred!
thank you~Mystearica wrote:
简单看了一下, 比上次有进步了, 可是感觉还是有些乱.
[Hard]
这足够Insane
开头的clap很响, 可以考虑减音量或者除掉
有很多地方你用的音量都很低, 基本听不到声音, 请加大点.
Slider Velocity 2.00 比较恐怖, 但不改也好 (BPM高到爆炸) (很多地方的音效都改了下 包括音量
[Fantasy]
这排的是太直线了点吧...(這.....這BPM再各種變化型..沒可能存活了吧...
音效也下的很不好听 ;_; (我怎麼覺得很棒....lol
[Normal+]
00:18:170 (2,3) - 这里听起来怪
00:25:568 (3) - 突然clap o.o
00:29:959 (1,2,3) - 感觉像L4D2里面的AK47 XD, 这样用clap不太好听
00:37:520 (4,5,6) - 为什么突然很低音?
其它先不找了...
其实Normal类应该简单点吧, 1/4 -> 1/2, 1/6 -> 1/3, 虽然是+(適當的做了修改 至於就一處1/6 一處1/4吧...這問題我覺得影響不大 ~ :)
[Easy]
开头的clap也不是很fit...
这些图最大问题是音效, timing没有O2那个东西没办法查. 排法也可以好一点, 特别是那人给你作的难度, 基本全是直线, 这样很不好看.lol
加油吧~謝謝~
thanks for mod. heres the updateLissette wrote:
cut the mp3 i will take care of that if you want angel honey
jericho2442's Easy
01:11:954 (6) - i'm not sure about this slider @.@ it looks hard but all you have to do is stay in one place, so it sould be fine
jericho2442's Fantasy
check with AIMod, there are objects that are not snnaped, fix manually fixed but .....wierd, on my pc they aint unsnapped yet aimod said they was O_o, ahh well nvm, thanks
01:06:213 (6) - i suggest remove this note nah i dont like how it sounds with it gone
01:11:606 (10) - ^^
Nice SB ^^
Star
Thank you very much~jericho2442 wrote:
here's the SB'd warning, and cut mp3
[attachment=0:03b86]update.zip[/attachment:03b86]
Thank you so muchDJPop wrote:
Re-mod by requested.
I always forgot what I've pointed out before =P
~jericho2442's Easy~
00:11:726 (2) - remove sliderwhistle
00:33:372 (1) - move down 1 grid (Lv3)
00:46:542 (1) - ^
~Normal+~
01:45:133 (4) - move up 1 grid (Lv3)
01:46:633 (8) - ^
01:48:508 (1) - use normal hitsound, add hitwhistle+hitfinish
01:49:258 (2) - use normal hitsound
01:50:008 (1) - use normal hitsound, add hitfinish
02:16:633 (1) - remove new combo
02:20:195 (1) - ^
~jericho2442's Fantasy~
00:03:937 (7) - new combo
00:08:805 (7) - ^
00:56:956 to 01:16:561 - D:
01:35:945 (1) - remove new combo
01:36:508 (7) - new combo
~Hard~
00:30:934 (5) - new combo
00:34:837 (3) - silence the slidertick
00:35:934 (3,4) - 1/3 snap
01:04:753 to 01:11:954 - 1/4 snap
01:53:008 (1) - remove new combo
01:53:570 (4) - new combo
02:11:008 to 02:13:400 - 1/4 snap
02:14:008 (1) - silence this spinner
02:16:445 - remove Kiai time
02:16:633 (1) - remove new combo
02:20:195 (1) - ^ (Optional)
Already starred.
Thank you so much~Beuchi-chan wrote:
Hi hi~![]()
Here are some suggestions for your map. Of couorse you don't have to change them if you don't agree with me
Let's go!!
~All Diffs~
- Remove "O2jam" from Tags, it's on Source already.
- Uhhh... such a weird timing (as weird as the song's rythm, but it's cool) but jericho's diffs have 3 different sections with 123,00 bpm, please delete them and keep the first, as Angel's diffs :3
~jericho2442's Easy~
- The storyboard in this diff keeps playing when the map ends, please mark it "Diff Specific" on the rest diffs.
01:11:954 (6) - Wow, this is so unexpected... Maybe make a warning to this?
~Normal+~
01:11:954 (1) - Put the SB warning a bit earlier :3
01:36:508 (1,2,3,4) - Reverse Horizontally?
02:09:133 (4,1) - A bit offscreen.
~jericho2442's Fantasy~
From 00:56:956 (1) to 01:16:663 (1) - WTH! This is too crazy :S Decrease spacing please? xD
01:50:008 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6) - Overlap (3)'s and (6)'s in the center?
02:05:289 (8,9,10,11) - Fix spacing.
~Hard~
01:02:802 (1) - I find this spinner too much x_x
02:07:258 (5,6) - Flip these horizontally, there's a big jump between (4) and (5).
Cool song!! *star*
DJPop wrote:
Re-mod by requested.
I always forgot what I've pointed out before =P
~jericho2442's Easy~
00:11:726 (2) - remove sliderwhistle fixed
00:33:372 (1) - move down 1 grid (Lv3) fixed
00:46:542 (1) - ^ fixed
~jericho2442's Fantasy~
00:03:937 (7) - new combo no
00:08:805 (7) - ^ no
00:56:956 to 01:16:561 - D: ya its hard
01:35:945 (1) - remove new combo no
01:36:508 (7) - new combo no
Already starred.
very sorry for the late fixBeuchi-chan wrote:
Hi hi~![]()
~All Diffs~
- Uhhh... such a weird timing (as weird as the song's rythm, but it's cool) but jericho's diffs have 3 different sections with 123,00 bpm, please delete them and keep the first, as Angel's diffs :3 fixed
~jericho2442's Easy~
- The storyboard in this diff keeps playing when the map ends, please mark it "Diff Specific" on the rest diffs......lol it allready is
01:11:954 (6) - Wow, this is so unexpected... Maybe make a warning to this? you just have to stand in one place >_>
~jericho2442's Fantasy~
From 00:56:956 (1) to 01:16:663 (1) - WTH! This is too crazy :S Decrease spacing please? xD crazy and epic, i will ONLY change this if it needs to be changed for the map to get ranked
01:50:008 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6) - Overlap (3)'s and (6)'s in the center? no
02:05:289 (8,9,10,11) - Fix spacing. fixed
Cool song!! *star*
aint the HUGE red warning bar what goes across the screen enough to tell ppl its gonna get hard, >_> pretty obv to me it isEEeee wrote:
Map looks good, just uhhh, Why doesn't jericho2442's Fantasy or Hard(maybe) have that Fantazindy warning.png active? at least i think it should be in jericho2242's Fantasy.
Basically, some kind of warning at that insane part in jericho2242's Fantasy
anyways *star
Thank you so much for lending me a hand, but ....this map have 4 diffs....I think it is enoughpassword wrote:
Lol can i make a diff?
Btw. This map is great! Starred!
Not to me either, I thought it was just a fancy effect thing.jericho2442 wrote:
aint the HUGE red warning bar what goes across the screen enough to tell ppl its gonna get hard, >_> pretty obv to me it is
lol....Derekku Chan wrote:
I said that I would mod this, but I'm going to have to decline for at least the time being.![]()
The BPM is definitely incorrect in at least a couple of spots. Skimming through the song, the beats sound unsnapped, even though they aren't, so there's surely a problem.
I'm very uncomfortable trying to mod this, so timing experts/BAT will probably need to check into this.
My apologies.![]()
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I must say, though, that the map is looking neat. 01:11:954 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16) - <3
I'll try to fix , but...Doomsday93 wrote:
Yes, The timing is off, So I'll try and help you out with that:
First up, add +30 to the offset of all your timing sections
Next, add these BPM's in: (the first one is for your first timing section. the second one is for your second timing section etc)
Also, at 01:15:264, add a timing section, offset = 75,268, BPM = 293.00
-123.10
-123.00
-246.10
-267.00
-160.00
This probably isn't perfect, but it feels better than what you have now
Also, at 01:15:264, add a timing section, offset = 75,268, BPM = 293.00no , i think its wrong D:
cooooooooool !!!CheeseWarlock wrote:
[TimingPoints]
2010,489.795918367347,4,2,0,61,1,0
17796,487.80487804878,4,2,0,61,1,0
49201,487.804878048785,4,2,0,61,1,0
64810,447.761194029851,4,2,0,61,1,0
71974,410.958904109589,4,2,0,61,1,0
78549,416.666666666667,4,2,0,61,1,0
86049,375,4,2,0,61,1,0
I would say you shouldn't map to this part 01:22:299 - it sounds to me like it's random noise and not meant to be in time with the music.
hopefully you should be happy now ive made it easier, but im REALLY not happy about it, i hate killing the soul of mapsKytoxid wrote:
[General]
Stacking leniency is too low on Hard, and may be too low on jericho's difficulties.its fine as long as it aint fully downNot to me either, I thought it was just a fancy effect thing. all i can say is, when anybody i kno see a big red warning bar AND a increse in song power, all of them kno its gonna get hard >_>jericho2442 wrote:
aint the HUGE red warning bar what goes across the screen enough to tell ppl its gonna get hard, >_> pretty obv to me it is
The first blue combo colour blends too well with the background for approach circles.i will leave the angel honey to pick some combo colours for all the diffs
[jericho2442's Easy]
01:25:981 - Don't stack 2 timing sections.i dont see it
SB makes this run far longer than it should, please delete unneeded SB. fixed
[jericho2442's Fantasy]
Volume starts too low, in my opinion. its fine
00:48:983 (8,1) - Hard to see when the 1 lands.its fine
00:56:956 - ...wow. Umm, I'm not sure if this is rankable. At least put in a warning SB? =/ sigh, tired of ppl complaining about the hardness of it >_> fine i'll make it easier for all you lot, dont complain to me now though if it aint as fun -_-
01:22:295 (1,2) - Uh, huh? I dunno what this is following.....................the drums in the background >_>
01:48:883 - Too short a break.fixed
thanks ive fixed the timingCheeseWarlock wrote:
[TimingPoints]
2010,489.795918367347,4,2,0,61,1,0
17796,487.80487804878,4,2,0,61,1,0
49201,487.804878048785,4,2,0,61,1,0
64810,447.761194029851,4,2,0,61,1,0
71974,410.958904109589,4,2,0,61,1,0
78549,416.666666666667,4,2,0,61,1,0
86049,375,4,2,0,61,1,0
I would say you shouldn't map to this part 01:22:299 - it sounds to me like it's random noise and not meant to be in time with the music.
looooooooooolAoitenshi wrote:
I really love this song, you have my star, and, can you add this diff? Please? I will be happy if you will. (Note, Some spacing are off to make a symmetry stream)
password wrote:
Hey angelhoney. can i make my diff here?
PLS IM BEGGING U!!
THIS SONG ROCKS ALOT!
And this beatmap rocks too!![]()
Thank you so much~Shulin wrote:
General:
-- Your SB seems to be a few ms early if you could fix that it would be awesome. (If it was intentional then ignore me)
-- I guess the timing is as good as it gets...
-- BG color black.
-- You could move your inheriting sections back so they don't land on notes, not essential though.
-- Maybe add "O2 Jam" to tags (with the space) (O2jam is game name....:D
-- Try to make your kiai consistent across all difficulties.
-- It would be super awesome if you added a skin to this ^^(yes i will
Easy:
-- Take "O2jam" out of tags in this difficulty.
-- Don't get a skip button when the difficulty finishes, annoying for new players who don't know that space = skip.
-- Remove letterbox during breaks.
00:49:201 (1) - If you make this visible instead of under the slider it would be easier to hit.
01:22:299 (1,2) - I'm not too sure about these notes, they're not obvious to a new player and the 2nd one doesn't coincide with anything in the music.
Normal +:
-- Remove audio lead in.
-- Add letterbox during breaks.
00:09:846 (1) - Finish or whistle.
00:49:201 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - I did lol at this, it keeps breaking my combo ;_;
02:14:049 (9) - Move directly above 02:13:861 (8) -
02:20:049 (1,2) - Stack these it looks neater.
jerico2442's Fantasy:
-- Remove "o2Jam" from tags.
01:00:908 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2) - The overlaps around here concern me a little, I personally don't like click by guessing but no one else seems to have complained so I guess they're fine.
01:50:049 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6) - Overlap again.
Pretty nice, I didn't like the overlaps but I guess that's personal preference.
Insane:
-- Add letterbox to breaks.
-- Remove audio lead in or add it to the other difficulties.
-- A higher stacking leniency might look better here.
01:17:727 (1) - You almost killed the slider ball.
01:44:424 - I found this break a little odd.
02:01:299 (3) - Down two squares.
02:01:674 (4) - Up two squares.
Overall: Nice job with the maps and I love SB. The timing still concerns me a little but better timers than me have looked at it so I guess its okay.
~ Star.
All delete (if you have nice skin ,plz tell meAoitenshi wrote:
AngelHoney, please don't use this skin, it has a lot of holes, like hitcircles too big... (You can see how the hitcircle is bigger than the trail of slider) Invisible hitcircle (Make them hard to read since the background has the same colour) And Unrelated Failscreen (An Anime girl falling from something, which is not related to fantazindy AT ALL).