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Skillet - The Older I Get

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This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on December-21-09 at 11:28:01 AM

Artist: Skillet
Title: The Older I Get
BPM: 162
Filesize: 8245kb
Play Time: 03:27
Difficulties Available:
  1. Hard (4.77 stars, 397 notes)
  2. Normal (3.18 stars, 200 notes)
Download: Skillet - The Older I Get
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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YEAH MORE SKILLET

Another map for rust45's Skillet project
rust45
[Hard]
03:11:056 (1) - Random spacing jump? I know it's a new combo but it seems very off anyway.

Great map once again, call me back when normal is finished.
Dusty
[Hard]
00:20:026 (4,5,1) - I don't like this weird spacing, how (5,1) are father apart than (4,5)
00:32:011 (6,1,2) - ^
00:52:030 (5,6,1,2) - ^
00:56:037 (8,1) - ^
00:58:004 (6,1) - ^
01:00:044 (2,1,2) - ^
01:04:070 (6,1,2) - There's no way this wasn't intentional, though.
01:08:022 (8,1,2) - ^
...etc. I'm not going to point out every single time this happens

01:08:059 (2,3) - I don't like how the sliders overlap

02:15:026 (1,2,3,4) - I'd actually like these farther apart
01:39:070 (1,2,3,4,5) - and these closer together, because these two patterns look too alike

[Normal]
all good, star
Stickly Man
This is technically my second time modding-- so take these suggestions with a grain of salt ;)

[Normal]
00:33:042 (1,2) - This part threw me off a bit, Maybe you should replace these notes with the slider just before it (00:31:561 (3))?
01:20:820 (5,6) - Slight inconsistency, but you didn't have beats placed on the echo voices at the beginning of the song, So remove these or add beats at the beginning?
01:32:672 (5,6) - ^
02:03:412 (8,9) - Spacing, they're a bit too close together

I notice you too use 0.8x spacing between notes, but 1.0x spacing in between combos, however, you started doing this at about 01:18, was this on purpose or did you mean to do it through the beginning part too? (As you can tell, I like consistency lol )

Your rhythm seems to be following the vocals for most of the song-- the following notes aren't placed on vocals (I think it sounds a little better with them removed, but since they are consistent throughout the song, it's fine if you leave them)
00:50:820 (4)
01:02:672 (5)
01:56:005 (4)
02:07:857 (5)
02:43:412 (4)
02:55:264 (5)

Also, some of the beats stacked on top of each other seem a bit too difficult/awkward compared to the rest of the difficulty. If this is going to be your easiest difficulty, you should probably try these changes (If not, you don't have to since it does make it quite a bit easier)
If you want to try out the following changes, copy a temporary difficulty and change it in case you don't like it:
SPOILER
00:49:015 (1) - Remove
00:58:412 (9) - ^
01:01:005 (2) - ^
01:03:227 (2) - ^
01:08:412 (1) - ^
01:36:931 (4) - ^ (Actually instead of removing some of these you could also make a short slider from the previous note)
01:38:412 (2) - ^
01:54:338 (1) - ^
02:01:746 (1) - ^ (And a lot of these notes are actually on words like 'I' or 'the' that are sung quicker and quieter than the other words)
02:03:598 (9) - ^
02:06:019 (2) - ^
02:08:412 (2) - ^
02:13:598 (1) - ^
02:21:005 (1) - ^
02:33:042 (2) - ^
02:32:857 (1,2,3) - This tends to be a bit trickier to fix, I recommend deleting 1 and making 2->3 a slider
02:41:746 (1) - Remove
02:49:153 (1) - ^
02:53:598 (2) - ^
02:55:820 (2) - ^
(Obviously, you'll have to double check the spacings after removing some of these)

[Hard]
I actually don't mind the extra spacing between combos, as long as the new combos are in the right spots, the jumps are perfect!
00:18:227 - 00:24:153 - I really love this part for some reason :D
00:30:079 - 00:33:968 - This is almost the same series of notes as the section above, but I don't like this part as much (I know, I'm strange :P)
00:58:227 (1,2,3,4,5) - This may sound confusing, but this whole section follows both the drums and the vocals. The only difference is note #4. Since you mostly only follow drums when there are no vocals, I think you should remove #4 so it follows the vocals rather than the drums. (Did that make sense? lol)
00:56:375 (8,1) - I always mess up at this spot because of that spacing, I think you should make 8 a new combo and remove the new combo on 1, then adjust the spacing accordingly.
01:08:227 (8,1) - ^ Same thing, however this one didn't mess me up as bad for some reason..
02:01:561 (8,1) - ^
02:04:153 (4) - Remove due to beat/vocals thing again
02:13:412 (8,1) - The spacing seems right as to what I've been suggesting, so this doesn't match your new combo/spacing theory.
02:48:968 (8,1) - (Similar to above issues, you'll get it when you see the note lol)
02:51:561 (4) - ^
03:00:820 (8,1) - ^
03:17:857 (6,7,8,9) - Once again, you start following the drums here, I think it flows better if you remove 6 and 8 (and perhaps make it a cool jump, too! lol)
Completely optional, but maybe move the spinner to 03:27:857, then add a beat at 03:26:931 and 03:27:487 (Or maybe replace the last beat with the spinner)

Anyways, wow, that went a bit longer than I planned on haha-- And as I hinted earlier, I definitely won't be offended if you choose to ignore any of my advice :P

It's a fun map! Good luck with it! :)
Gens
Nice and solid beatmap. Good work, faceman, you did it again. :)
Topic Starter
0_o
Dusty: Sorry, I don't really agree with your mod, the jumps were intentional so I think I'll wait to see what the more experienced players think of them before changing them.

Sticky: Wow, that was huge :P I took a few pieces of advice, and I see what you were saying about the stacked notes in Normal, but again I'll see if other people agree with you first.

Thanks everyone ^_^
Mok
Mod's Info:
Mine are all suggestions. You're free to follow or not this mod :3
I'll just mod the beats in your map, in all its forms, will not tell you to add or remove the beat <3
Remember to fix spacing after all modfiy :3

[General]
Add a Source.
Add a Tag.
Use 1/4 Snap Divisor.
Add a Timing Section with Offset 13412.
Reduce by an half-tick the hitsounds volume.

Now i'll mod with the 1/4
[Normal]
Seems fine ^^

[Hard]
00:26:005 (5) Move it 4 grid space to right.
01:07:116 (7) Seems a little offscreen.
03:23:412 (8) ^

And that's all for your map! I'm glad to star it, hope you will ask me again for other maps-modding x3
Topic Starter
0_o

tmokb93 wrote:

[General]
Add a Source. There is no Source..
Add a Tag. Can't think of any.
Use 1/4 Snap Divisor. What?
Add a Timing Section with Offset 13412. All this would do is put the metronome in the wrong spot.
Reduce by an half-tick the hitsounds volume. I think it's fine.

Now i'll mod with the 1/4
[Normal]
Seems fine ^^

[Hard]
00:26:005 (5) Move it 4 grid space to right. Why?
01:07:116 (7) Seems a little offscreen. It's completely fine in-game
03:23:412 (8) ^ ^

And that's all for your map! I'm glad to star it, hope you will ask me again for other maps-modding x3
Thanks for taking a look, but yeah I don't think any of these are necessary :P
eee
eeemod GO!!! --_--;

I think there should be more kiai at choruses -_-; it actually looks quite nice at 02:40:449

[Hard]
02:37:301 (break) - remove break (compared to Normal)
...
...
this is hopeless, why even try.

star >.>
Topic Starter
0_o

eee wrote:

eeemod GO!!! --_--;

I think there should be more kiai at choruses -_-; it actually looks quite nice at 02:40:449 I would, but I had to double the BPM so that I could get sliders up to speed, which means the kiai flashes twice as fast as it should. Because of this I decided to only use the kiai on the bridge to keep the flashyness to a minimum.

[Hard]
02:37:301 (break) - remove break (compared to Normal) Can't the breaks are automatic :P
...
...
this is hopeless, why even try.

star >.>
Thanks :P
cyanberryio
Just gonna star, no need to mod(played Hard already) :L /late

psst. for tags add the genre at least and the album title p:
Takuma
Rolled patterns? ;~~~;
Larto
1st: I never noticed how Aha!'s background is totally unrelated to the song. Why does it fit so much?
2nd: You always put unrelated backgrounds into your maps and they work regardless. Grrrr.
3rd: 0_o maps are cool
4th: rank

rust45
Congrats once again on getting another awesome map ranked faceman.

But I also came here for another reason, may someone please deny me the kudos I was given by Takuma? I feel I don't deserve it due to faceman not making the change I suggested.
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