I thought you were originally going to shoot outside the wagon anyways?GuyInFreezer wrote:
Night deadline was too short for me ;-;
I came to this site two hours before the deadline and saw ONI TOWNflip so I panicked because the vigpool was in the assumption of ONI scum which he claimed.
I was working with the basis of two scums on ONI wagon, but too many people looked town there so in the end I chose farto (which is from outside of the wagon) but I was 30 min late apparently (even though I could've sworn the day 2 hasn't started when I PM'd the mod)
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I was.
But then I saw townflip and thought shooting inside of the wagon would be better (bc usually 2 scums on a wagon in a case like this)
But then so many ppl there looked town in various degrees so I got scared and went back to the outside of wagon.
Also good point to note that pie hated farto's posts before he died.
But then I saw townflip and thought shooting inside of the wagon would be better (bc usually 2 scums on a wagon in a case like this)
But then so many ppl there looked town in various degrees so I got scared and went back to the outside of wagon.
Also good point to note that pie hated farto's posts before he died.
That was far away from what I was thinking, shame on you GIF 
so a guy with 60+ games and a 60% winrate didn't think that he should check the actual flip way before the deadline ends, then panics extremely and doesn't submit his night action?GuyInFreezer wrote:
Night deadline was too short for me ;-;
I came to this site two hours before the deadline and saw ONI TOWNflip so I panicked because the vigpool was in the assumption of ONI scum which he claimed.
I was working with the basis of two scums on ONI wagon, but too many people looked town there so in the end I chose farto (which is from outside of the wagon) but I was 30 min late apparently (even though I could've sworn the day 2 hasn't started when I PM'd the mod)
it happens to the best, but maybe you will be a little bit more careful now
i don't really understand the pieguy kill, he wasn't that overly active (though i can't check iso because we don't have one :C), and really all he did was parking his vote on oni, a guy they knew was town. it doesn't make sense to me to shoot one of the guys who didn't contribute that much (maybe him staying down was the exact reason they shot him).
vote: GuyInFreezer
now sheep uncle Sephi as you should have done d1
now sheep uncle Sephi as you should have done d1
and 60% is a shitty winrate, js
why do you people still think that retard can play this game, i can't get it
why do you people still think that retard can play this game, i can't get it
oh btw if someone has gathered useful information tonight, please share it with us
i know what you were thinkingDakeDekaane wrote:
That was far away from what I was thinking, shame on you GIF
Tanzklaue wrote:
(though i can't check iso because we don't have one :C)
oh and i don't like you
I just realized Flandre lynched Remilia xD
So much for their relationship in the mansion.
Anyway, GiF, Tanz and farto are town reads for me atm due to their reaction after Oni "claimed" scum.
Vote: bmin
His "I don't want to interrupt discussions" and that pointless question struck me odd as I was skimming through the thread.
So much for their relationship in the mansion.
Anyway, GiF, Tanz and farto are town reads for me atm due to their reaction after Oni "claimed" scum.
Vote: bmin
His "I don't want to interrupt discussions" and that pointless question struck me odd as I was skimming through the thread.
I wasn't on the site to check the flip until later because I was busy irlTanzklaue wrote:
so a guy with 60+ games and a 60% winrate didn't think that he should check the actual flip way before the deadline ends, then panics extremely and doesn't submit his night action?GuyInFreezer wrote:
Night deadline was too short for me ;-;
I came to this site two hours before the deadline and saw ONI TOWNflip so I panicked because the vigpool was in the assumption of ONI scum which he claimed.
I was working with the basis of two scums on ONI wagon, but too many people looked town there so in the end I chose farto (which is from outside of the wagon) but I was 30 min late apparently (even though I could've sworn the day 2 hasn't started when I PM'd the mod)
it happens to the best, but maybe you will be a little bit more careful now
i don't really understand the pieguy kill, he wasn't that overly active (though i can't check iso because we don't have one :C), and really all he did was parking his vote on oni, a guy they knew was town. it doesn't make sense to me to shoot one of the guys who didn't contribute that much (maybe him staying down was the exact reason they shot him).
I was busy irl so I couldn't check the flip until way laterTanzklaue wrote:
so a guy with 60+ games and a 60% winrate didn't think that he should check the actual flip way before the deadline ends, then panics extremely and doesn't submit his night action?GuyInFreezer wrote:
Night deadline was too short for me ;-;
I came to this site two hours before the deadline and saw ONI TOWNflip so I panicked because the vigpool was in the assumption of ONI scum which he claimed.
I was working with the basis of two scums on ONI wagon, but too many people looked town there so in the end I chose farto (which is from outside of the wagon) but I was 30 min late apparently (even though I could've sworn the day 2 hasn't started when I PM'd the mod)
it happens to the best, but maybe you will be a little bit more careful now
i don't really understand the pieguy kill, he wasn't that overly active (though i can't check iso because we don't have one :C), and really all he did was parking his vote on oni, a guy they knew was town. it doesn't make sense to me to shoot one of the guys who didn't contribute that much (maybe him staying down was the exact reason they shot him).
Wow I thought iPod ate my post
Also pieguy was actually pretty town and is generally annoying for scum to leave him alive most of the time.
I wasn't surprised that he died.
I wasn't surprised that he died.
like i said, no offense taken, it happens to the best of us. just watch out that it doesn't happen again.
also,
Vote: Sephibro
because there is no one who disrupts towndiscussion more than him.
also,
Vote: Sephibro
because there is no one who disrupts towndiscussion more than him.
this post by farto sounds scummyNoHitter wrote:
Anyway, GiF, Tanz and farto are town reads for me atm due to their reaction after Oni "claimed" scum.
Tanz gave no cotribution to town, he just sheeped gif stupid ideas and complained that i shouldn't be rude all day longfartownik wrote:
Oh, right. Never mind then. I smelled super saint/vengeful for a moment there.
gif must die irl + cheapest excuse ever
am i the only one who saw an association between farto and gif?GuyInFreezer wrote:
Yup. Missed a deadline. :<
(Was gonna vig farto btw)
Oh I missed that post of farto. From the context, it does sound scummy.
ha, i like how you forgot that i basically said that your idea of no lynch makes sense. never did i sheep gif's ideas. i didn't vote oni, i would've voted NL if it had any chance of passing through.Sephibro wrote:
this post by farto sounds scummyNoHitter wrote:
Anyway, GiF, Tanz and farto are town reads for me atm due to their reaction after Oni "claimed" scum.Tanz gave no cotribution to town, he just sheeped gif stupid ideas and complained that i shouldn't be rude all day longfartownik wrote:
Oh, right. Never mind then. I smelled super saint/vengeful for a moment there.
gif must die irl + cheapest excuse ever
but please, continue.
oh you kept complaining about me even while i was writing the post
now please explain me how the only person who proposed the right way to go d1 is disrupting towndiscussion more than one who writes in every post of his that i'm disrupting towndiscussion
now please explain me how the only person who proposed the right way to go d1 is disrupting towndiscussion more than one who writes in every post of his that i'm disrupting towndiscussion
you never gave a motivation for WHY it made no sense, i gave a motivation for why it made sense thoTanzklaue wrote:
ha, i like how you forgot that i basically said that your idea of no lynch makes sense. never did i sheep gif's ideas. i didn't vote oni, i would've voted NL if it had any chance of passing through.
but please, continue.
oh i forgot you're a fucking retarded sorry
because your way wasn't the only right way. it's as simple as that.
also you tell everyone to shut up and do what you think is the right thing to do. if that isn't hindering towndiscussion, then what is?
also you tell everyone to shut up and do what you think is the right thing to do. if that isn't hindering towndiscussion, then what is?
I don't get why mods still allow you to play honestly.
you didn't give another way nor motivations to support itTanzklaue wrote:
because your way wasn't the only right way. it's as simple as that.
guys i want one lynched among {farto, tanz, gif, dake}
Not really. But GIF does mention farto a lot in his post. I don't think they would blatantly look as if they are buddying like that.Sephibro wrote:
am i the only one who saw an association between farto and gif?GuyInFreezer wrote:
Yup. Missed a deadline. :<
(Was gonna vig farto btw)
actually i have another case about Tanz
if you're really hider, why didn't you tell us behind who you hid tonight?
if you're really hider, why didn't you tell us behind who you hid tonight?
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This is getting out of hand.
Sephibro, this is your last warning to clean up your behaviour and treat the other players with respect.
I don't care what you think of them or their opinions, but there is a line between discussions and arguments to forward the game as a whole, and completely unnecessary personal attacks.
Do not cross that line.
Sephibro, this is your last warning to clean up your behaviour and treat the other players with respect.
I don't care what you think of them or their opinions, but there is a line between discussions and arguments to forward the game as a whole, and completely unnecessary personal attacks.
Do not cross that line.
what happens in mafia stays in mafia is it really that hard
Hello.
Vote: Sephibro
a) disrupting most of our discussions with bullshit;
b) despite forcing the NoLynch thing, he hopped into the Oni wagon with no actual reason
Also, what's your reason to vote GIF? You indeed have mentioned D1 that he's one of your scumreads, but you were at your NL suggestion. And now? What's up with this vote? Did you get some information to think of him as scum?
Vote: Sephibro
a) disrupting most of our discussions with bullshit;
b) despite forcing the NoLynch thing, he hopped into the Oni wagon with no actual reason
Also, what's your reason to vote GIF? You indeed have mentioned D1 that he's one of your scumreads, but you were at your NL suggestion. And now? What's up with this vote? Did you get some information to think of him as scum?
Somehow I'm reading that vote as "Sephibro is just offending everyone and mod threatened to replace him, so I'm going to vote him"
and now comes the bitter moment of truth.Sephibro wrote:
actually i have another case about Tanz
if you're really hider, why didn't you tell us behind who you hid tonight?
I am no hider. I never actually meant to say that i was. i tried to reference the fact that we had an mafia commuter in touhou pyp IV on this very forum (i always mix up commuter and hider). that whole "tanz soft/hard claimed hider 100% conf town" wasn't at all what i wanted.
gif said "don't say whether i am right or wrong", and i thought "i will 'hide' behind the claim of hider until my role actually gives me any information".
which it didn't. which surprises me, because i thought that the existence of my role would indicate the existence of a specific mafia role.
Nope, I have a difference case on him, concerning the Oni wagon. and GIF vote, like I have stated beforeRaging Bull wrote:
Somehow I'm reading that vote as "Sephibro is just offending everyone and mod threatened to replace him, so I'm going to vote him"
it's hard to play with so many people disrupting my conversation with myself
explain your own vote for the oni wagon then. You just somehow got easily convinced by GIF with him saying how sc2 mafia-ers play.
Getting scummy vibes on rEdo and null scum from GIF especially from the non shooting at night.
Getting scummy vibes on rEdo and null scum from GIF especially from the non shooting at night.
concerning the oni wagon: since nobody was willing to go for the clever way, i jumped there to put him at L-1 and let dake hammer himrEdo wrote:
Nope, I have a difference case on him, concerning the Oni wagon. and GIF vote, like I have stated before
i could have understood this case if he flipped scum
Unvote
let's stop this wagon before it even starts.
I calmed down a bit regarding sephi, my actual read on him is rather null. same for gif. if gif doesn't shoot this night, then he will be lynched day 3.
let's stop this wagon before it even starts.
I calmed down a bit regarding sephi, my actual read on him is rather null. same for gif. if gif doesn't shoot this night, then he will be lynched day 3.
In day 1, I have said that I'm getting scumvibes from Oni's and Sephibro's posts. Pretty much everyone else remained null to me, that's why I focused on these two people. Since I wanted this guy to talk, I placed my vote on him. At first I indeed was reluctant to vote, but the "gif might be scum he claimed vig" sounded like a completely stupid way to redirect the attention from his person, hence my vote. Also, most oftenly votes are a good way to force people to talk. Too bad it didn't work out too well this time :'(
- O n i - (7) - GuyInFreezer, pieguy1372, NoHitter, Nyquill, rEdo, Sephibro, DakeDekaaneAnyway here's what I had on the ppl here.
GIF- town
Pieguy - he's dead town so no need to explain myself
NH - what I felt about him in several past games are that he got really tired with playing scum. Psychologically speaking, I think if he rolled scum, he would've been more lurky and whiny than his play right now, so town.
Nyquill - I liked his "if we're lynching, it better be a full wagon" thing.
Sephi - I seriously considered shooting him last night for
- - - - - - - - -
This leaves two people who was on ONI wagon. I don't have a townread strong as the others above, but I could see them being town.
rEdo - iirc, his reason to join a ONI wagon was "fuck it." That's usually a town attitude IMO but he was being useless.
DD - I have a "DD lurks hard as scum" bias so that's kinda keeping me from putting him to scum pile but I don't remember any significant thing he did yesterday. Considered shooting him too.
this post of tanz seems genuine, but
it looked as a claim (not even a soft one) to me too
would you please explain me this one, then?Tanzklaue wrote:
like hider?GuyInFreezer wrote:
Of course, excluding the PRs that are provable and just can't be scum for balance reason and such (such as IC, 1SV)
it looked as a claim (not even a soft one) to me too
Also here's a reminder for y'all that sephi did stated his scumread on ONI.
ehm i said it not nyquillGuyInFreezer wrote:
Nyquill - I liked his "if we're lynching, it better be a full wagon" thing.
would you please explain me this one, then?Sephibro wrote:
this post of tanz seems genuine, but
like hider?
it looked as a claim (not even a soft one) to me too[/quote]
like i said, a messed up reference to touhou pyp IV, where we had an mafia commuter (commuter are normally also one of these roles that are just always town).
No you rEtard. You voted for Oni right after GIF said how sc2 mafia plays p/2779715 within 10 minutes of your first post of not going to vote him and then voting him.rEdo wrote:
In day 1, I have said that I'm getting scumvibes from Oni's and Sephibro's posts. Pretty much everyone else remained null to me, that's why I focused on these two people. Since I wanted this guy to talk, I placed my vote on him. At first I indeed was reluctant to vote, but the "gif might be scum he claimed vig" sounded like a completely stupid way to redirect the attention from his person, hence my vote. Also, most oftenly votes are a good way to force people to talk. Too bad it didn't work out too well this time :'(
vote:rEdo
oh god i messed that quote up like there is no tomorrow
of course i didGuyInFreezer wrote:
Also here's a reminder for y'all that sephi did stated his scumread on ONI.
it's page 4's last post!
Didn't he said that before you did?
like i said, a messed up reference to touhou pyp IV, where we had an mafia commuter (commuter are normally also one of these roles that are just always town).[/quote]Tanzklaue wrote:
would you please explain me this one, then?Sephibro wrote:
this post of tanz seems genuine, but
like hider?
it looked as a claim (not even a soft one) to me too
The previous touhou?
oh cool. My first broken quote.
yes the previous oneRaging Bull wrote:
The previous touhou?Tanzklaue wrote:
like i said, a messed up reference to touhou pyp IV, where we had an mafia commuter (commuter are normally also one of these roles that are just always town).
Hider != commuter
@tanz: and why didn't you explain that immediately or at least right at the beginning of d2?
you just hid behind hider fakeclaim for getting towncred
that confession seems genuine but still you understand it's a delicate situation
you just hid behind hider fakeclaim for getting towncred
that confession seems genuine but still you understand it's a delicate situation
lol i use that expression a lot too in my languageTanzklaue wrote:
oh god i messed that quote up like there is no tomorrow
I always mess them up.GuyInFreezer wrote:
Hider != commuter
Yes, I indeed have, but take a look at this:Raging Bull wrote:
No you rEtard. You voted for Oni right after GIF said how sc2 mafia plays p/2779715 within 10 minutes of your first post of not going to vote him and then voting him.
vote:rEdo
rEdo wrote:
By the way, if Oni won't speak until the last hours of deadline, I'm willing to hammer/place one more vote that won't do shit so the day ends with a NL because people can't establish their reads.
Also, I have reread his ISO (there wasn't much to read anyway) after the first post you're talking about, and that combined with GIF's telling me of that L-1 thingie resulted in a vote.GuyInFreezer wrote:
Jsyk sc2mafia players know to claim upon L-1.
Also, Sephibro once again have ignored my question why he thinks of GIF as scum.
He hates me that's why.
I do understand that.Sephibro wrote:
@tanz: and why didn't you explain that immediately or at least right at the beginning of d2?
you just hid behind hider fakeclaim for getting towncred
that confession seems genuine but still you understand it's a delicate situationlol i use that expression a lot too in my languageTanzklaue wrote:
oh god i messed that quote up like there is no tomorrow
normally i would have, because i really expected my role to ping this morning. but it didn't. now i am confused as to where my role even places.
so i decided to hide behind the fake roll a little longer, so mafia wouldn't think of axing me of. which is irrelevant now, because i am apparently not here to counter a mafia role.
in retrospect, i should've explained the missunderstanding from the beginning on. I am sorry for the confusion.
Raging Bull wrote:
No you rEtard
Raging Bull wrote:
No you rEtard
Raging Bull wrote:
No you rEtard
can i hug you?Raging Bull wrote:
No you rEtard
Seems like you didn't need much convincing to vote is all im reading.rEdo wrote:
Yes, I indeed have, but take a look at this:Raging Bull wrote:
No you rEtard. You voted for Oni right after GIF said how sc2 mafia plays p/2779715 within 10 minutes of your first post of not going to vote him and then voting him.
vote:rEdorEdo wrote:
By the way, if Oni won't speak until the last hours of deadline, I'm willing to hammer/place one more vote that won't do shit so the day ends with a NL because people can't establish their reads.Also, I have reread his ISO (there wasn't much to read anyway) after the first post you're talking about, and that combined with GIF's telling me of that L-1 thingie resulted in a vote.GuyInFreezer wrote:
Jsyk sc2mafia players know to claim upon L-1.
Sephibro wrote:
can i hug you?
Raging Bull wrote:
No you rEtard
A way to make him talk was more than enough for me. Too bad that he wasn't really interested in the game at all.Raging Bull wrote:
Seems like you didn't need much convincing to vote is all im reading.
nah i don't hate you at all gif, i also used to respect you as a player
but you made me change my mind after what you showed on dethy mafia and here
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btw i think i've explained already every case i have on gif, didn't i?
but you made me change my mind after what you showed on dethy mafia and here
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btw i think i've explained already every case i have on gif, didn't i?
After taking a quick look over your ISO, I'm afraid not. You were fighting with him at a certain point, but nothing more than that.Sephibro wrote:
btw i think i've explained already every case i have on gif, didn't i?
ok then
pushing a lynch instead of no lynch giving fake success percentages (30% instead of 12~15%)
claiming vig d1 to get towncred
not vigging anyone n1
bringing cheap excuses
pushing a lynch instead of no lynch giving fake success percentages (30% instead of 12~15%)
claiming vig d1 to get towncred
not vigging anyone n1
bringing cheap excuses
Raging Bull wrote:
Sephibro wrote:
can i hug you?Raging Bull wrote:
No you rEtard
wat the hell does that have to do with anything.
Hey still my townreads were good in that game (And didn't vote you)
I was already being townread when I claimed vig so
I was already being townread when I claimed vig so
were you?GuyInFreezer wrote:
I was already being townread when I claimed vig so
But then you didn't shoot so it seems so....non existant.
I think in any case gif isn't the best day2 lynch, at least with our information at the moment.
in fact, i am interested in what farto says, as i think that farto and redo are atm the scummiest people.
in fact, i am interested in what farto says, as i think that farto and redo are atm the scummiest people.
Yes. I think you were the only one who was scumreading me at that pointSephibro wrote:
were you?GuyInFreezer wrote:
I was already being townread when I claimed vig so
I null read you, and so were most i think.GuyInFreezer wrote:
Yes. I think you were the only one who was scumreading me at that pointSephibro wrote:
were you?
in each case, we're 10pTanzklaue wrote:
I think in any case gif isn't the best day2 lynch, at least with our information at the moment.
it means 2 mislynches = lose
a vig killing one more person is not optimal
look at what d1 lynch brought us to
Nice new signature Sephi.
oh i forgot to make this other question to you tanz
you told that no lynch with the motivation i brought for suppoting it made sense, so why you never voted for it?
you told that no lynch with the motivation i brought for suppoting it made sense, so why you never voted for it?
Hey ppl
Gun to your head, how many scum off the wagon?
Gun to your head, how many scum off the wagon?
At least two.
are you asking how many people voted for oni or how many people didn't vote for oni?
Didn't vote for oni
Sephibro wrote:
0 or 1 imo
nobody else pushed it, and also the discussion about NL arose, so I decided to hear both sides out.Sephibro wrote:
oh i forgot to make this other question to you tanz
you told that no lynch with the motivation i brought for suppoting it made sense, so why you never voted for it?
to gif: 2 on the wagon, 1 off.
guy off the wagon is either farto or bmin
of course if no one starts pushing it everybody can use your excuse
Sephi: bullet case on DD?
Also I agree with scum in farto/bmin
Also I agree with scum in farto/bmin
I am very careful with my votes for the most part, so i really wanted to see if there is any lobby for NL. there wasn't really a lobby for it.
0/1 because of the point on plurality being pushed to maximum heights.
This is just for the records, but gut feeling tells me nh is scum.
This is just for the records, but gut feeling tells me nh is scum.
Fuuuu I think pieguy got information for us last night and he died.
if nh's scum im very sorry for him - he was scum in higurashi, multiball and vgc
it is true that the way he's playing fits his "scum meta" but relying on meta is shit
actually i think he was scum in every game i've played with him
about Dake, his first posts pinged me for scum, and nothing in his posts made me think of him as town
it is true that the way he's playing fits his "scum meta" but relying on meta is shit
actually i think he was scum in every game i've played with him
about Dake, his first posts pinged me for scum, and nothing in his posts made me think of him as town
NoHitter wrote:
Vote: bmin
His "I don't want to interrupt discussions" and that pointless question struck me odd as I was skimming through the thread.
As I said, I'm not going to interrupt discussions even if it's on the barge of going out of hand, despite my hatred for it. I'll have to admit that those could be used for future reads, so I have no intentions of stopping people from gathering info.bmin11 wrote:
Well, first of, I wish you guys to keep in mind that this is just a game through communication. I would not like to have another game like Dota Mafia nor 111111 mafia. I won't be disrupting discussions just to prevent that, but I hope you guys would know where to draw the line and how not to cross it.
My question was for my Oni's case. I guess it may have not helped getting rid of the WIFOM, but I wanted to see if there was a possible explanation on his lack of defense (or lack of panic posts).
I'm not sure if I want to buy on GIF's night action. You were quite active honestly, but you just couldn't make it for the night? That's pretty hard to swallow.
Unfortunately, I don't have any night information to provide for this night.
Friday is always a busy day for me.
Why would you ask a hider where he hide?Sephibro wrote:
actually i have another case about Tanz
if you're really hider, why didn't you tell us behind who you hid tonight?
oh i forgot to mention the plurality lynch partSephibro wrote:
ok then
pushing a lynch instead of no lynch giving fake success percentages (30% instead of 12~15%)
claiming vig d1 to get towncred
not vigging anyone n1
bringing cheap excuses
also rEdo suddenly stopped answering after this answer
because if a hider hides behind scum he passively diesDakeDekaane wrote:
Why would you ask a hider where he hide?
I could explain the situational difference between that vengeful game and here, but I'll let your brain handle that.
I forgot that fact about the hider, but the way you asked it looked like fishing in muddy waters :v
a) The 30% comes from assuming that some people are confirmed town.Sephibro wrote:
a) pushing a lynch instead of no lynch giving fake success percentages (30% instead of 12~15%)
b) claiming vig d1 to get towncred; not vigging anyone n1
c) bringing cheap excuses
d) oh i forgot to mention the plurality lynch part
also rEdo suddenly stopped answering after this answer
b) He said that to improve the chance of lynching correctly the day before. That aside, I thought it's a regular vigilante play to claim early (D1/D2).
c) I've been finding his reasoning a lot more valuable than yours so far, as least he's responding to questions without the need of a mod to react ._."
d) This actually is something I must say you're right about, however that lynch was required to get information. This is something we're working on right now, aren't we?
About my inactivity for the past 5 hours, I was playing CS:GO
According to my somewhat reliable source of information, his PC is broken right now, but he'll a back-up one in no time. also why do people always associate me with fanderwik, fucenTanzklaue wrote:
in fact, i am interested in what farto says, as i think that farto and redo are atm the scummiest people.
Zero to one, that lynch was pretty much forced in the end.GuyInFreezer wrote:
Hey ppl
Gun to your head, how many scum off the wagon?
Why the indirectly dependent stance?bmin11 wrote:
I'm not sure if I want to buy on GIF's night action. You were quite active honestly, but you just couldn't make it for the night? That's pretty hard to swallow.