hint: this is a strong as hell associative between you two :>CalignoBot wrote:
Why is Dake obvtown? Because he's the only one that is both being firm with their statements in basically every post and not dropping association tells all over the place.
I don't understand this. can you explain further plzCalignoBot wrote:
Reverse the situation and I literally see the exact same thing. Both seeing NoHitter as apparently town and Dake as scum completely boggles my mind.
NoHitter is V/LA and so he cant be proddedSephibro wrote:
@mod: prod NoHitter pls
actually, can you further elaborate on this? what firm statements has he made? also, why do you think this is necessarily a towntell?CalignoBot wrote:
Why is Dake obvtown? Because he's the only one that is both being firm with their statements in basically every post and not dropping association tells all over the place.
I want you to seriously consider this question: Do you really believe this?pieguy1372 wrote:
hint: this is a strong as hell associative between you two :>CalignoBot wrote:
Why is Dake obvtown? Because he's the only one that is both being firm with their statements in basically every post and not dropping association tells all over the place.
That was referencing "you're scum who's BS'ing reads aren't you"pieguy1372 wrote:
I don't understand this. can you explain further plzCalignoBot wrote:
Reverse the situation and I literally see the exact same thing. Both seeing NoHitter as apparently town and Dake as scum completely boggles my mind.
Okay, let me just post a wall of quotes:pieguy1372 wrote:
actually, can you further elaborate on this? what firm statements has he made? also, why do you think this is necessarily a towntell?CalignoBot wrote:
Why is Dake obvtown? Because he's the only one that is both being firm with their statements in basically every post and not dropping association tells all over the place.
DakeDekaane wrote:
Also pieguy, why do you vote farto when he's clearly trying to put an end to RVS as quick as possible, we have plenty of time, but that's not reason to goof around.
I originally got major scumvibes off this post, but that has been virtually negated combined with the rest of his ISO.DakeDekaane wrote:
^scum pls
Actually, I'd like votes on pieguy.
Unvote
Vote: pieguy
We could basically spend all D1 in RVS without any sign of "ending naturally", better starting discussion as soon as possible, lefting very few spots for scum to play around, don't you think?
Incredibly weak, but still clearly unafraid to make his stances known.DakeDekaane wrote:
Also FoS on rEdo for not sheeping like he usually does.
Basically a firm declaration that the wagons suck.DakeDekaane wrote:
So what's the reason of lynching Irre over Cookie? Both are absent (Cookie would be replaced and Irre is V/LA). I can think in both wagons being opportunistic as they're pretty much going over inactive people, it's true this may be lurking but I'm not sure at all.
Same as above but only with the Cookie wagon.DakeDekaane wrote:
Just posting I'm alive and waiting for this situation to be cleared, as speedlynching us clearly bad.
I shouldn't have to explain this.DakeDekaane wrote:
I'm up to hammer fanderwik, if he's not scum then go for pieguy. Thanks.
This either.DakeDekaane wrote:
1 kill, looks nice, but I can't relate it atm.
pieguy rushing as always.
Is Caligno even in the game?
Today we are lynching pieguy/rEdo.
Just more firm stances.DakeDekaane wrote:
Wait no, you were reading Tsukasa as probably town ( p/2729116/ ) even after "trying to derail" the farto's wagon ( p/2728407/ ), and now you read him as scum, pls.
And now you vote an idle person, at least wait some time and ask prod pls.
piescum pls
Also I didn't post there because the day was ended to fast >.>
idk but if I were townreading rEdo, I might be agreeing with Sephi on that post looking scummy, sadly I'm not townreading him neither was, so, you want to speedlynch the wrong person.
I shouldn't have to explain this.is not alignment indicative bc Dake is probably ice scum so ofc he's going to hammer a fire scum. and even if he's fire scum fandw was quite clearly about to be lynched so he didn't really have a choice
This either.that's hardly a "firm stance". he doesn't give any reasons for any of them
Just more firm stances.I see false logic and waffling about what Sephi said. this is, again, hardly a firm stance
Why is the way how i vote even bothering you? I still am going to vote nh. I was the one who even voted him first. Seems like you really want him dead as long as it isnt your partnerCalignoBot wrote:
Raging Bull you'd prefer your vote to be useless than put someone at L-3?
Read my ISO again.pieguy1372 wrote:
i fyou think I'm BS'ing reads then why do you have me in your townpile. scared of not having enough townreads?
That wasn't as much a concrete point as it was a generalization. Being very active and helping drive the playerlist to a consensus kind of makes a time where you want to lay low stand out a fuckton more which would completely defeat the purpose of trying to do this in the first place.pieguy1372 wrote:
I could respond but basically everything you quoted I don't see how he couldn't say as scum. he's far from a town leader in just about everyone's eyes and I don't think there was any risk of him being a town leader.especially with me in the game and how in information mafia I lead everyone after the game went stale only for rEdo to vote me for absolutely no reason
This is complete nonsense. You seem to be under the assumption that if he was ice scum, he would know that fartownik was fire scum. So... why exactly would he hold back again on a target that pretty much everyone else active at that point was calling for the head of?pieguy wrote:
in particular, thisI shouldn't have to explain this.is not alignment indicative bc Dake is probably ice scum so ofc he's going to hammer a fire scum. and even if he's fire scum fandw was quite clearly about to be lynched so he didn't really have a choice
Again, nonsense. Just because he doesn't give reasons doesn't mean it's not a firm stance. If you basically lock yourself into a single perspective that would look incredibly awkward to back out of, it's a firm stance.pieguy1372 wrote:
andThis either.that's hardly a "firm stance". he doesn't give any reasons for any of them
Go into more detail here.pieguy1372 wrote:
Just more firm stances.I see false logic and waffling about what Sephi said. this is, again, hardly a firm stance
This would be a lot more convincing if I had posted close to anything about Dake before you asked me why I thought he was town.pieguy1372 wrote:
also I love how you started to bus Dake at the start of the game bc you love bussing your teammates
but then you realized how suicidal it was in a setup like this and did a complete 180 ~
You talk about voting him a lot for someone who isn't voting for anyone. It's even worse when he's L-4.Raging Bull wrote:
Why is the way how i vote even bothering you? I still am going to vote nh. I was the one who even voted him first. Seems like you really want him dead as long as it isnt your partnerCalignoBot wrote:
Raging Bull you'd prefer your vote to be useless than put someone at L-3?
How does this have any relevance to anything.Raging Bull wrote:
You talk a lot for someone who wasnt here for half the game
hes' really not "driving the playerlist to a consensus"CalignoBot wrote:
That wasn't as much a concrete point as it was a generalization. Being very active and helping drive the playerlist to a consensus kind of makes a time where you want to lay low stand out a fuckton more which would completely defeat the purpose of trying to do this in the first place.
bc he knows it's not his partnerCalignoBot wrote:
This is complete nonsense. You seem to be under the assumption that if he was ice scum, he would know that fartownik was fire scum. So... why exactly would he hold back again on a target that pretty much everyone else active at that point was calling for the head of?
plz don't make random assumptionsCalignoBot wrote:
Also, congratulations on pretty much eliminating the possibility of Dake being fire scum. The partner's best play would easily have been to be on the wagon while he basically threw away his chance to.
1. no it means nothing if you don't back it upCalignoBot wrote:
Again, nonsense. Just because he doesn't give reasons doesn't mean it's not a firm stance. If you basically lock yourself into a single perspective that would look incredibly awkward to back out of, it's a firm stance.
CalignoBot wrote:
Go into more detail here.
Wait no, you were reading Tsukasa as probably town ( p/2729116/ ) even after "trying to derail" the farto's wagon ( p/2728407/ ), and now you read him as scum, pls.both of these are false logic
And now you vote an idle person, at least wait some time and ask prod pls.
idk but if I were townreading rEdo, I might be agreeing with Sephi on that post looking scummy, sadly I'm not townreading him neither was, so, you want to speedlynch the wrong person.this isn't even definitely saying anything
this is a blatant lie and you know itCalignoBot wrote:
This would be a lot more convincing if I had posted close to anything about Dake before you asked me why I thought he was town.
Pushing out your own opinions instead of just muddying the waters all over the place helps drive a consensus.pieguy1372 wrote:
hes' really not "driving the playerlist to a consensus"CalignoBot wrote:
That wasn't as much a concrete point as it was a generalization. Being very active and helping drive the playerlist to a consensus kind of makes a time where you want to lay low stand out a fuckton more which would completely defeat the purpose of trying to do this in the first place.
You didn't even address my point.pieguy1372 wrote:
bc he knows it's not his partnerCalignoBot wrote:
This is complete nonsense. You seem to be under the assumption that if he was ice scum, he would know that fartownik was fire scum. So... why exactly would he hold back again on a target that pretty much everyone else active at that point was calling for the head of?
what I'm saying is, the fact that he hammered scum is irrelevant
Tell me why any scum wouldn't want to lynch their partner when it's basically inevitable that they'll be lynched anyway. I can't think of any whatsoever.pieguy1372 wrote:
plz don't make random assumptionsCalignoBot wrote:
Also, congratulations on pretty much eliminating the possibility of Dake being fire scum. The partner's best play would easily have been to be on the wagon while he basically threw away his chance to.
1. You basically said the exact same thing as before without addressing my point.pieguy1372 wrote:
1. no it means nothing if you don't back it upCalignoBot wrote:
Again, nonsense. Just because he doesn't give reasons doesn't mean it's not a firm stance. If you basically lock yourself into a single perspective that would look incredibly awkward to back out of, it's a firm stance.
2. oh yeah sure like ou did with dake obvscum and then dake obvtown
CalignoBot wrote:
Go into more detail here.
Actually, that post is incredibly accurate now that I took the time to actually look at it. You overreacted horrifically to that single point (saying he "flailed all over the place to derail the farto wagon" when all he did was vote Sephibro for bad reads) when not only was he supporting the fartownik wagon earlier in that game day, but also gave no indication whatsoever that he had changed his mind in that post. Your rebuttal to this point only makes it stronger. I'll let you figure out how by yourself.pieguy1372 wrote:
Wait no, you were reading Tsukasa as probably town ( p/2729116/ ) even after "trying to derail" the farto's wagon ( p/2728407/ ), and now you read him as scum, pls.both of these are false logic
And now you vote an idle person, at least wait some time and ask prod pls.
There's not exactly close to anything he could have said to the opposite with what he was given.pieguy1372 wrote:
idk but if I were townreading rEdo, I might be agreeing with Sephi on that post looking scummy, sadly I'm not townreading him neither was, so, you want to speedlynch the wrong person.this isn't even definitely saying anything
You know full well I meant after I came back and started playing again.pieguy1372 wrote:
this is a blatant lie and you know itCalignoBot wrote:
This would be a lot more convincing if I had posted close to anything about Dake before you asked me why I thought he was town.
remember on the start near page 6 or w/e? you were calling dake scum there
Your posts have been nothing but promising a vote on NoHitter after he comes back from V/LA (fake pressure) and trying to spin me calling you out on it into me being scum while withholding your vote (more fake pressure).Raging Bull wrote:
Why do you want me to vote him so bad? And it's the exactly the same thing reverse. If I'm going to vote him later, why vote right now? You're the one doing nothing besides rebuttle crap and trying to look town by pressuring people to vote.
I'll let you figure out how by yourself.why are you being so ambiguous?
You know full well I meant after I came back and started playing again.you're so scum
I rest my case.pieguy1372 wrote:
here's how you slipped: you're saying I know "full well" when I'm one of your townreads. if you really believed I knew "full well" then that would make me scum for lying/misrepping/etc. I've seen all I need to see :>
Okay, this actually made me giggle.DakeDekaane wrote:
pieguy you're being annoying, unless you're scum trying to mislynch someone (like me). What if Caligno flips town if he gets lynched today? I hope you have a strategy if you're tunneling like this.
I think we all agree on voting NH, so we can speedlynch him to please pieguy's speedlynch wishes and likely catch scum.
DakeDekaane wrote:
Are we sharing reads? I should share reads too.
My townreads are in RB and Sephibro. I can't see RB as scum and Sephi hasn't made anything that make him look scummy besides going with the flow and suspecting me.
Everyone else is possible scum. This two guys are less likely to be scum.
pieguy is the least likely to be scum, why? If this ability is of his, is way too OP for scum imo. But if this is CTs' ability, pieguy is more likely to be scum
rEdo because maybe.
The rest has a high chance of being scum, after re-re-reading the thread, I'm ok with lynching any of these guys.
NH, Caligno and Tsukasa.
Me ofc is town, whoever that puts a vote on me if a wagon starts is likely scum.
And yes, I also want to know why I'm obvtown Caligno.
so you go from {NH, Caligno, Tsukass} to {NH} with no explanation whatsoever. especially when "we all agree on voting NH" is far from true anywayDakeDekaane wrote:
pieguy you're being annoying, unless you're scum trying to mislynch someone (like me). What if Caligno flips town if he gets lynched today? I hope you have a strategy if you're tunneling like this.
I think we all agree on voting NH, so we can speedlynch him to please pieguy's speedlynch wishes and likely catch scum.
CTs-Th wrote:
For everybody sake please lynch Caligno or Dake quickly!
Oops, I mean. Looks like they're team up together now.
The more you talk, the more suspicious you got from me.
For now, I think I wouldn't regret if I mislynch Caligno or Dake, because we'll surely get an information from today's lynch.
Unfortunately, I can't vote
And this one:Agreed.Raging Bull wrote:
Why is the way how i vote even bothering you? I still am going to vote nh. I was the one who even voted him first. Seems like you really want him dead as long as it isnt your partner
And oh, if today have passed, I can't talk anymore.
plsDakeDekaane wrote:
What if Caligno flips town if he gets lynched today? I hope you have a strategy if you're tunneling like this.
When did I townread or moved Tsukasa and Caligno out from my scum pool? Stop making fake assumptions. Caligno WKing me is a good sign, I think, but I can't think of him being totally townie yet. If he's scum, he's doing a good job trying to pull me with his rope.pieguy1372 wrote:
so you go from {NH, Caligno, Tsukass} to {NH} with no explanation whatsoever. especially when "we all agree on voting NH" is far from true anyway
Because I just do. If I'm not misled by somebody or something, that is.CalignoBot wrote:
Also, rEdo: State in your own words why you think I'm mafia. Do not use quote tags for anything pieguy says or I'll consider that a scumclaim.
it's better if it's iceRaging Bull wrote:
Its great if we get scum but better if itsfire.
Sakura wrote:
Welcome you are a Fire Mafia JOAT
Your partner is Louis13 and you may communicate via this QT
JOAT abilities:
1-Shot Ninja: If you perform the kill during the night you use this ability you will appear as visiting no one to trackers and watchers.
1-Shot Bulletproof: The first time a bullet would hit you will do nothing instead.
1-Shot Investigation Immunity: During any night of your choice any alignment scans on you will result "Town".
1-Shot Strongman: If you perform the kill during the night you use this ability your shot will ignore protection and roleblocks.
1-Shot Roleblocker: During any night of your choice the target person's actions will become nullified.
Hidden Ability: None
You win when you control half the votes and the Ice Mafia Team is dead.
Sakura wrote:
Welcome you are a Fire Mafia Goon
Your parnter is fartownik and you may privately communicate with him in this QT
You and your partner share a factional kill that either of you may perform each night.
Hidden Ability:
Rig the votecount: Anytime during the day you may PM the mod Vote: playername you will add a vote to that person that will appear as ???? in votecounts. You may change this vote anytime you want by PMing the mod again.
You win when you control half the votes and the Ice Mafia Team is dead.
Sakura wrote:
Welcome, you are an Ice Mafia Goon
Your partner is sephibro and you can communicate on this QT
You both possess a factional kill, either you or your partner may submit a kill during each night.
Hidden Ability:
Freezing Thoughts:
You may PM the mod during the day a target player's name, that player's vote (or votes) will be frozen on the target and can't be changed for the rest of the day, if the target isnt voting anyone they become voteless for the rest of the day instead. (1-Shot).
You win when you control half the votes and the Fire Mafia Team is dead.
Sakura wrote:
Welcome, You are an Ice Mafia JOAT
Your partner is NoHitter and you can communicate privately via this QT
You and your partner have a factional Night kill, you may use this during the night and only 1 of you may use it.
JOAT abilities:
1-Shot Doctor: During a night of your choice a target player will be protected from a single night kill.
1-Shot Cop: During a night of your choice you may target a player and will know whether they are Guilty, Not Guilty or No Result at the end of the night.
1-Shot DayKill: During a Day of your choice at any time you may PM me the name of a player and that player will die and the day will end. If you use this ability you cannot perform the night kill that night.
1-Shot Tracker: During a Night of your choice you may choose a player and you wil be informed any player that was targeted by them, or will have a no result.
1-Shot Watcher: During a Night of your choice you may choose a player and you will be informed any player that targeted them, or will have a no result.
Hidden Ability: None... What, you want MORE abilities?
You may only perform one of your JOAT abiltiies per night, but you may perform the nightkill on the same night except when you use the day kill.
You win when you control half the votes and the Fire Mafia Team is dead.
Sakura wrote:
Welcome, You are a Town 1-Shot Bulletproof Bodyguard.
During any night you may target a player, if that player would be hit by a bullet you take the bullet instead. You also will survive the first bullet that hits you.
Hidden Ability:
Inside Information: You may target a player during the night (living or dead) and you will be informed of what hidden abilities they have if any (1-Shot)
You may use your hidden ability and your night ability on the same night
You win when all threats to town are eliminated.
Sakura wrote:
Welcome, You are a Town 1-Shot Unlynchable Roleblocker.
During any night of your choice you can target a player to prevent them from taking any action (including hidden abilities). Also if you would be lynched you will survive instead and the day will end in a No Lynch, however, this will only work once.
Hidden Ability:
Sixth Sense:
If you are targeted by a hidden ability you will know this and will know what effect it had.
You win when all threats to town are eliminated.
Sakura wrote:
Welcome, You are a Town 1-Shot Vigilante
During any night of your choice you may PM me a player name, if your action is succesful that player will die.
Hidden Ability:
Reckless Rush: You may use your kill during the day instead, this will reset the vote count but it will render you voteless for the rest of the game.
You win when all threats to town are eliminated.
Sakura wrote:
Welcome, You are a Town Double Voter.
You have 2 votes, you can use them in this format:
Vote1: Playername1
Vote2: Playername2
You can also Unvote with
Unvote1
Unvote2
Both of your votes are taken in the required ammount of votes to lynch, so if there's 7 players alive it will have ncessary to lynch as if it were 8 for example.
Hidden Ability:
Follow footsteps: You may target a player every night and know whether they used a hidden abilityand who they targeted with it.the striked part was mod error.
You win when all threats to town are gone.
Sakura wrote:
Welcome, You are a Vanilla Townie
However due to your secret research you have deveolped...
Hidden Ability:
Cloaking device: During any night you may target a player and that player will be untargetable for that night, this doesn't affect factional kills.
Other than that you have your voice and your vote.
You win when all threats to town are eliminated.
Sakura wrote:
Welcome, You are a Vanilla Townie
However due to your hidden links with the mystical forces you have developed...
Hidden Ability:
Possesion: When you die you may target any player, you will communicate with said player via a quicktopic, you wont receive a dead quicktopic until said quicktopic is closed.
Side-Effect: If you die during the Night, Day actions are blocked while you choose a target.
Other than that you got your voice and your vote.
You win when all threats to town are eliminated.
Sakura wrote:
Welcome, You are a Vanilla Townie
However due to your dedication in martial arts you have developed...
Hidden Ability:
Detect Hidden Forces: During any night you may target a player and will know whether they were targeted by a hidden ability during that night.
Sakura wrote:
Welcome you are a Vanilla Townie
However since you used to be a politician you have deveolped...
Hidden Ability:
Diplomacy: During a night of your choice you may use this ability, any kill that would happen that night will be prevented, but everyone will know that you used this ability. (1-Shot)
Side-Effect: You will be poisoned at the end of the night this ability is used.
I never imagined i'd have to prod sephibrothat was the first prod of my life
1-shot unlynchableRaging Bull wrote:
Tsukasa used his one shot roleblock. Or was it only one shot unlynchable?
Wooooooow, I had forgotten about that.fartownik wrote:
I told ya about Sephibro, why you never listen to uncle fartownik?
By the way, we were planning on taking out Sephibro N1 but failed due to Irreversible's action. The Ice team had shitton of luck during the entire game, gg.
yeah we have been pretty lucky.. btw i hate playing as scum, i play it so awkward on forum that i don't even feel the victory deservedfartownik wrote:
By the way, we were planning on taking out Sephibro N1 but failed due to Irreversible's action. The Ice team had shitton of luck during the entire game, gg.
Sephibro wrote:
also caligno, dake wasn't obvtown at all
I was looking at overall playstyles over individual points for a lot of those reads.CalignoBot wrote:
I can't really explain WHY that made him obvtown, but it was something like it that made me so sure he was town.
I use weird reasons like that a lotCalignoBot wrote:
You used meta on me at some point this game; that's why I brought it up.
I can't really explain WHY that made him obvtown, but it was something like it that made me so sure he was town.
I also stand by my statement that your reasoning for Tsukasa-scum was something I'd see come from scum much more than town. >_>
pieguy1372 wrote:
also I love how you started to bus Dake at the start of the game bc you love bussing your teammates
but then you realized how suicidal it was in a setup like this and did a complete 180 ~
Doesn't Day Kill is more OP? XDSephibro wrote:
also farto, caligno's role and yours were so fucking op
)
Sorry, I didn't trust you at that time.DakeDekaane wrote:
I told you to lynch NH too
This thing of acting careless didn't work for me (maybe because there were two factions, idk)
I love the fact that when I try to act town, I read null -_-CalignoBot wrote:
You misunderstand. You didn't read null to me. To me, you looked like you were TRYING to read null.
another mod note: scum teams should be mirror next time, with the same exact abilitiesSakura wrote:
Irre's ability was pretty much a global doc, farto could still had strongman'd sephibro