UPDATE!!: I can actually pass hards now, finally.



It's probably not a big thing to most... but for me, it's a big achievement. Osu is my very first rhythm game, and I'm definitely no natural talent. But I've, for now, achieved my goal. As soon as my real life friend starts doing Insanes though, instead of just Hards...

But I'll try not to get ahead of myself, for now.

It was a matter of physical strength...



And mental speed!



Unfortunately, there was no magical trick that everybody else was using that I wasn't.
It literally really all was just about practice.

But how do you practice in Osu? That's the question nobody bothers to answer.
How did *I* practice? I didn't grind the same map over and over again until I memorised the patterns.
I didn't play 100-200 times a day.
I don't think I even played 50 times a day.

And simply spamming Scarlet Rose would have been an absolutely terrible idea when I can't even get 40% accuracy on that map with NoFail. That would be an excellent way to build bad habits.

So what did I do instead? I played a whole range of different "Hard" maps - a dozen or more different ones, most donated by helpful posters on this thread. I played them only a couple of times each, before moving on to the next in sequence. That way, I didn't end up memorising the patterns - I actually had to get faster, and READ them. I didn't play more than 50 plays a day or so, otherwise I would have injured myself, and just slowed myself down.
Thank you, to bewaredrev, Mystrian, and Zalaria, and anyone else who I might have missed for giving me excellent practice maps to hone my skills.

Thank you to everyone who told me that the only way really was to practice. It's not an easy pill to swallow, but it's one that I had to come to terms with sooner or later to improve at this game.

And to those who edited out their posts because they were convinced I was just going to quit, or flamed me because they had nothing else to do, I guess I can thank you too. Your blatant negativity and pessimism were exactly what I needed as driving motivation to go forward. There's nothing quite as motivating, as cathartic, as proving somebody else's negative opinions absolutely wrong, lol.

After all, why say "F*** you" when you can just make somebody else look stupid?

Mods, if you wish, you can lock this thread now. I have no need of it anymore. Perhaps, the wisdom that has been passed on to me can be passed on to others... but that is your choice to make, not mine.

Everybody, thank you for your time.



~Talinoth

Play Count: 955

there you go


You can play for 5 years, if you don't play more per month/day, you won't improve much

Keep trying, some people improve faster, some slower. It took me like 8-10 months to pass a Hard with not a crappy acc, I'm not a hardcore player tho.

You just need to play more, as long you're challenging yourself you should be fine. Try not to dwell so much on songs you can't play there's no point worrying so much about the future.

Well that last play was painful...

I actually had 92% accuracy on a Hard I was playing. I managed to survive the earlier difficulty spikes by trying to almost spam-click during the unreadable patterns, then carefully recovered my hp bar by hitting all of the easier stuff in between with perfect accuracy to recover my hp bar.

But then, right before the end of the song, easily over a dozen different objects popped up on the screen, and I had a mini panic attack and failed.

Osu is too damn hard lol.

At least I know exactly why I'm failing these maps now -

1: High HP drain means I have to have at LEAST 80% or so accuracy or I fail by default. This wouldn't be so bad by itself, except
2: The BPM of these songs are usually fairly manageable until they mysteriously double in chorus sections, where the mapper is clearly trying to show off and the patterns become far more complex at the same time.
3: Because even just a few missed notes in sequence makes you fail an entire beatmap, despite your previous accuracy, these chorus sections act as bottlenecks, forcing you to play halfway through the map over and over again to fail in exactly the same place again and again.

A painful, painful experience.

For now, I think I'll stick to grinding Sakaue Nachi - End of Daylight (Normal) and try to get my rank into the top 25 instead of just the top 50.

Keep playing different maps. Playing the same normals over and over again for a better rank on them when you have already fc'd with decent accuracy isn't gonna get you anywhere. Challenge yourself. Play things that are difficult but still passable.
Soon you'll try a hard and it won't be so scary.

check the how to improve at osu thread

check your mouse settings, use a clean skin, dim background and disable video

Talinoth wrote:

Well that last play was painful...

I actually had 92% accuracy on a Hard I was playing. I managed to survive the earlier difficulty spikes by trying to almost spam-click during the unreadable patterns, then carefully recovered my hp bar by hitting all of the easier stuff in between with perfect accuracy to recover my hp bar.

But then, right before the end of the song, easily over a dozen different objects popped up on the screen, and I had a mini panic attack and failed.

Osu is too damn hard lol.

At least I know exactly why I'm failing these maps now -

1: High HP drain means I have to have at LEAST 80% or so accuracy or I fail by default. This wouldn't be so bad by itself, except
2: The BPM of these songs are usually fairly manageable until they mysteriously double in chorus sections, where the mapper is clearly trying to show off and the patterns become far more complex at the same time.
3: Because even just a few missed notes in sequence makes you fail an entire beatmap, despite your previous accuracy, these chorus sections act as bottlenecks, forcing you to play halfway through the map over and over again to fail in exactly the same place again and again.

A painful, painful experience.

For now, I think I'll stick to grinding Sakaue Nachi - End of Daylight (Normal) and try to get my rank into the top 25 instead of just the top 50.

1: Get better then
2: LOL no. Just because you can't do it does NOT mean it's showing off OR overmapping
3: No again, learn to play and stop finding excuses for the fact that you're utter crap

It sickens me that your last statement clearly shows that you're somebody that won't even bother to put in effort to improve, still lingering in the normal-difficulty range.

....

VICTORY!

After like 50 tries of that particular map, and a hundred or so tries on other hards, I finally passed a hard!

YAYYYY!



EDIT:

1: Get better then
2: LOL no. Just because you can't do it does NOT mean it's showing off OR overmapping
3: No again, learn to play and stop finding excuses for the fact that you're utter crap

It sickens me that your last statement clearly shows that you're somebody that won't even bother to put in effort to improve, still lingering in the normal-difficulty range.

Odd. Your cutesy-cutesy anime avatar almost directly clashes with the horrendous negativity and venom in your post.

First, I have no problem with getting a higher accuracy rate for these ones. That's natural.

I never said there was anything wrong specifically with showing off. It just irks me that the difficulty drastically increases in these sections in a way that doesn't naturally flow with the rest of the map.

And three, please don't put words in my mouth. Where was I making excuses? I never tried to hide the fact I'm not good at this game.

"Fact that you're utter crap?" Oooh, that stung me a little. I need to go find myself some tiny tiny band-aids and put some ice on that horrific burn you just gave me. I'll be feeling that one for DAYS.

Clearly you make up for your lack of social skills and superior holier-than-thou attitude with your amazing osu prowess. Top 1000 in the game is really pretty awesome but I'm not sure that it justifies how nasty that post was. Have you sacrificed your social skills for the ability to full combo Insanes?

Just keep trying, no matter how painful, annoying it gets, just keep trying, it worked for me. Try doing different hard maps, and if you can't pass those, try other ones, then if you feel like it, do the ones you couldn't do the previous time.

It really all comes down to patience.
Every journey begins with a small step.

If you're going to stick to normal maps for awhile at least put mods on. You won't learn much from doing the same shit. Also this is a good starter map for 5 stars. Play the hard difficulty of that

If you're going to stick to normal maps for awhile at least put mods on. You won't learn much from doing the same shit. Also this is a good starter map for 5 stars. Play the hard difficulty of that

I always put mods on my Normals, at least. I can full combo practically every Normal I have with Hard Rock, and I can do End of Daylight (normal) with HR+HD+FL and get FC.

Thank you very much for the link btw. I'll check it out now.

EDIT: It's certainly not the easiest of the ones I've been trying... but it's really fun and I like the song. I'll probably won't take too long to get the rhythm (because the rhythm is so pronounced), so I'll give it a solid couple dozen attempts.

I'm not sure what you mean by difficulty spikes. Are you sure you're playing current maps? Hards shouldn't be having severe difficulty spikes.

It sounds like you need to play a bigger variety of maps. For me at least, playing the same 5-10 maps over and over really stagnated my skill. I don't make that mistake anymore and I've improved a lot since then.

Go and download like 50 maps that sound good and just play through them once each. After going through them go back to the one you're struggling with and I bet you'll pass it. Preferably ones mapped within the last year or two. They're less awkward than some old maps.

Now that you've made the first pass on [hard] you should keep at playing those types of maps. I can say that playing [normal] and [easy] will make it a slow progression in developing skill. If you start to sit on stuff that is too easy you may get relaxed and stop improving. Once you get into this rut it's rather difficult to get out of because the skillset you've put yourself into is all you really know. I can speak from experience on this matter. However, It's a wonderful experience to improve in this game. It always seems like it's non-stop challenging too because there is always a map out there that you can not handle. You just have to find the right steps to get up there. (Some can find it faster than others, but don't sweat it)

Good luck and have fun, I really have one key advice for this game: Don't care about your rank or anyone else's rank for that matter. Everyone understands that it's highly inaccurate at determining who is actually good and who isn't. Skill can't be measured in just numbers. Everyone has their own strengths and weaknesses to this game, so even then it really is hard to compare one player to another even in high level plays. Some can be super consistent, some are great at mod plays, some are just super fast at jumps, some can easily read out any map, some are rock solid steady at streams, Some can just pull off amazing scores through sheer dedication. They can come in all different assortments, but the few that can pull the everything together, those are the good players and they are well known.

I have a confession to make.

Usually I wouldn't be bothered about the speed of my progress... buuut...

I have a friend in real life who started playing Osu about 2 months after I did.

At this time, I was struggling to full combo normals - let alone attempt hards. The prick then comes back to me about a week after he started and says "Hey man, I can do Hards now, this game is really easy!"

My experience - over two months
His experience - one week
My skill - barely FC'ing some normals
His skill - he could do Hards

"FUUUUUU-"

And there you have it. My motivation to create this thread

Then again, I never checked to see if he was actually just talking $#!% or not... I have some investigation to do, gentlemen.

Thank you to everybody who gave positive answers. Special mention to bewaredrev, who linked me to a beatmap pack with a song that isn't one more of the happy-go-lucky slice-of-life anime-bull$#!% themes that appears to be all over the Ranked beatmaps section.
I seriously appreciate that

Hey, firstly, I'm not too sure on what you mean by not being able to play [hard]'s. Do you really mean the difficulty of hards or insanes? The screenshot you posted of you achieving rank B on that song was an Insane, lol. Mappers don't always classify all maps that is classified by Osu as insane as Insane or any indicator of that sort.

Just look at the beatmap's page and you can look at the alphabet just before the difficulty. E = Easy, N = Normal, H = Hard, I = Insane. That was why I think someone else asked you how come you were facing difficulty spikes in a map that is a hard, I think. (speculation)

Only insanes generally have those, generally. I think. I've only been around for a month though, and I play mostly insanes, some classified as 'hard' by the mappers but I just follow Osu's classification on those maps.

About your friend.. Well everyone improves at different rates. Some are just really good at Osu while others are not. I can say though, that indeed, the best way to improving at Osu is just practice, and practicing frequently. I have 1.5k plays 1 month in, and quite some many days I wasn't around. But then again, everyone has different amounts of time that they are able to spend on Osu. In any case, I'm sure you'll see a vast improvement sooner or later.

Best of luck to you!

If THAT was an Insane, it was literally the easiest Insane in the history of Osu. Almost all of the Hard maps I have are harder than that.

Yes, I took a look at the beatmap's page, and it IS classified as an "Insane", but the difficulty definitely resembles a very easy hard map.

Somebody should totally look into that, or scrubs like me will be able to falsely say "Rofl, you guys are so bad, I was able to do my first insane with only 4 months play! Get better"

So yeah, to answer the question, it's Hards I'm having trouble with. In general, it's a problem with hitting more stuff on screen faster that I'm working through. It's also a problem with not being able to work through large patterns on high approach rates.
Mostly it's because I'm bad.

But I'm getting better, at least.
My hand hurts SO much after playing today though, I think I really do need to take a one day break.

There are a wide variety of insanes, lol, classified by the beatmap's pages anyway. What I look at is normally the success rate. For that map, it has a 26% success rate, and indeed, that is a very high success rate, hence hinting it as a rather easy map. ;p

Play more harder songs instead of trying to get good ranks on easy / normal.

i would say try and enjoy the game more then straight hard grinding practice lol i use to be stuck on normals and my friend does hard and some insanes but after awhile i just stared to enjoy the game more and work on my tapping since in the faster maps u gotta be able to tap faster, now i can do hards and maybe few insanes but if u focus on how u improve more then enjoy the game u wont notice it.

i spent maybe 7 months on normals and easys lol and stared to work into some hards that my friend threw at me and he would lol saying if u dont try hards u wont ever be able to do it so i started to do them even if i failed but sooner or later i started to notice i could tap fast enough and jump around decent enough to play them now. every once and awhile ill jump back on a normal and throw dt and hd to improve my accuracy and tapping speed then go try a hard one sometimes it works sometimes i fail and i just keep trying.

everybody improves at a different rate some just take longer some just are natural born osu ppl o_O.

buny is right though. ranked hards aren't the maps that mappers like to overmap random shit everywhere. that would be unranked/high-high level insanes. and you seriously deimprove by playing easy/normal because you get used to low note density, low ar and retardedly low od. like on most normals i can "miss" or hit it way off time that it should be a miss, and still get a 300. wtf.
tl;dr: stop playing easy stuff. don't complain about maps. you're not at the level where you know what you're talking about.

nofail should be your best friend by now

Playing Easies and Normals is a waste of time and you should not play any of them after 1 or 2 days into the game.

Also, playcount.