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NoHitter
You guys should be more active when it's not 5AM here.
I like this level of activity... except I'm usually asleep by this time.
Lincolm
Because our timezone are fvkced.
Raging Bull
always wonderful when I post and discussion stops.
NoHitter
Well this game we have a handful of people in the same relative timezones (me, you, Jinxy, Rantai, MarioBros777)
*cross fingers*
NoHitter
Double post:
When pieguy writes my name as "NoHItter", I feel so much nostalgia ;_;
pieguyn
oh LOL, I didn't even see you changed your name
if you want I can keep writing it the old way~~
Nyquill
the game is supposed to end if a jester is lynched o_o
Tsukasa
In the year 1490, In the world of Ancardia. An unknown continent filled with nations sit on it's surface. It was peaceful at first, But then something happened to one of it's countries that changed everything.

The Ruler of Bronquia was killed by it's successor, Eventually crowning him their new king.
By the rule of the new king, Gulcasa, They attacked the kingdom of Fantasinia and succeeded in it's siege. The King of Fantasinia has fallen, and it's army shattered, Their only hope now is the survivor of the royal family of Artwaltz, Princess Yggdra, and the holy sword that she carries, The Gran Centurio.

Will the Bronquians succeed on being the sole empire that rules the land? Or Will the Fantasinians regain it's former glory and overthrow the evil Bronquians?

INTRODUCING: MAFIA UNION

Based on the Game Yggdra union




Game Setup/Desciption:
1) Would be a 15p Game. (Or less depending on the number of people who are joining
2) Due to the complaints of having short deadlines, Day phases would be 7 days. Night Phases Would still be 1 day.
3) This is an experimental setup.
4) It will NEVER EVER BE A BASTARD SETUP (No Jesters, No Cults, NO LIGHTNING ROD PGOs :P)

Game-Specific Rules:
1) Each player would be given 1 card Each Day.
2) Card distribution would be given at random. The stronger the card is, The rarer it is. (Card strength would be based on this list
3)Card usage will depend on which card. Some can only be used during the day, Some during the night, Some at any time, And some activated automatically (Passive Cards)

Sign-ups:
1) NO SIGN-UPS ARE BEING ACCEPTED AT THE MOMENT.
2) This message is merely an advertisement and, of course, posted here so the mod queue will not be disturbed. The final setup is not yet... erm... "Finalized"... Hence, any kind of sign-up, pre-in will not be accepted.
3) Sign-Ups/Pre-ins may be available in 2 weeks time or so.

Additional Information:
1) Most probably, It would be 12-Town 3-Scums.
2) But since there's a special rule, It may reach 11-Town 4-Scums, or it MAY reach up to 10-Town 5-Scums since it is a swingy setup.
3) Roles may still have their own power, which would be different from their card.
4) DO NOT RELY ON ROLE FLAVOR!!! ORIGINAL FANTASINIAN CHARACTERS MAY BE BRONQUIAN, AND VISE VERSA
bmin11
Sweet. LS's game is about to start when I'm actually going to be absent orz
Jinxy
fyi I wasn't kidding when I was thinking of TH Mafia V. It's not going to be PYP though since that's hell to balance. I already have a preliminary 12p setup going and basic balance tests passed., but I'm not going to slot myself into the queue yet without a little more testing.

If possible, I would like to ask for someone's help to be setup reviewer and/or co-mod. If you agree to help me be a reviewer, you will not be allowed to play the real thing since it's Closed Setup. A co-mod would basically be checking night action resolution, but that's not as necessary.
Amianki
I'm willing to do either; I'm not going to be playing any Touhou mafia games either way since I have basically no knowledge on it.
pieguyn
I'd be all for a Touhou mafia, cause I srsly have never been able to play a Touhou mafia that's finished...
make me Remi plz~
go ahead and sign up plz. it'll be a while before it starts so you'll have enough time I'm sure :3
Lilac
I'm going to post here for a newbie setting that I just thought up.

This setup is called 4^-1. It's named after 4 possible setups with all town roles being 1-shot.

Since we want to focus on day play as opposed to night play so hence these are the following possible setups.

2 Mafiaso, 1-shot Cop, 6 Townies.
2 Mafiaso, 1-shot Doctor, 6 Townies.
2 Mafiaso, 1-shot Watcher, 6 Townies.
2 Mafiaso, 1-shot Town Roleblocker, 6 Townies.

This eliminates things such as follow the cop and just general reliance of power roles. However, it does bring on the sense of mafia not having much else to do and essentially have only the night kill to help them in terms of roles so I'm trying to figure out something else. Comments are appreciated.
Jinxy
This is almost mountainous though, since 1-shot is barely enough town-power, especially if the Doc/RB setup was selected since there's 0 investigative roles and the chance of a successful protect is incredibly small.
pieguyn
1-shot Cop seems fine for me, but 1-shot Doctor/Watcher/Roleblocker don't seem powerful enough imo 0.0
maybe I'm just biased against cops cause a skilled enough cop generally = town always wins or gets at least 1 mafia
Jinxy
I disagree there, the Watcher is even stronger than the Cop. It's easier to find a pro-town to Watch than a scum to Cop.
Lilac
Jinxy is essentially right, the Watcher and Cop are almost on par with each other.

If I changed the 1-shot doctor into a 2-shot tracker and the town RB into a 2-shot one as well, would that change anything? Information could be gathered through logical deductions of what happened in terms of the roles anyway. I don't want it to be mountainous but at the same time I don't want the game to just rely on a role.
Nyquill
Mountainous can be very fun though just saying.
SeiinaAraki
Dropping in to say hi

hi
Lilac
Saki, how do I Korean?
SeiinaAraki
Think of the silliest sounds when written in English
speak them out loud.

There. Korean.
Kanye West
gosu hana dul set ahp chagi KIAAAAAAAAA
SeiinaAraki
...point proven.
:p
Amianki
kanye why do you have to keep switching out good avatars

It makes me sad every time you do it.
Kanye West
:(
Amianki
Kanye back on an epic avatar

Good work, soldier.
bmin11


I've been recalling too many mafia game incidents while watching this video
pieguyn
hi bmin you should join my game <3
bmin11
I know neither Saki nor mahjong though
pieguyn
flavor knowledge isn't required, I'm not that mean :cry:
but if you want, I can teach you w
NoHitter
Man, I knew joining two games at the same time wasn't the best of ideas. I get burnt out reading too much -_-
Sakura
Try being me and being in 10+ games at the same time.
Kytoxid

Sakura wrote:

Try being me and being in 10+ games at the same time.
lol, I saw your wall of V/LA posts.

How's MS.net? Fun to play on?
Sakura
Yes, it is, the V/LA is mostly coz I just got Pokemon 6th gen and im spending lots of time on it.
Raging Bull
give me Sakura rage link
Sakura
pieguyn
Raging Bull
many fucks were given.
psKirika
Any new games opening soon? O:
Sakura
Currently debating who hosts the next because it turns out the next 3 hosts in the queue are busy, and since I'm the 4th one I'm asking them whether they'll host or not.
Sakura
When osu! players invade mafiascum...
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=32348

Holy shit we need to do that again, that game was so fricken fun.
pieguyn

Sakura wrote:

When osu! players invade mafiascum...
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=32348

Holy shit we need to do that again, that game was so fricken fun.
you forgot stack the deck where I got lynched D1 ;w;
Tsukasa

Sakura wrote:

Guess me going to MS left quite an impact...

Edit: Tho this is getting a bit off topic and would fit more on mafia discussion just saying :P
Moving to Discussion \ ( owo)/

It reminds me of a certain IRC kingmaker game
NoHitter
Like I said, MS takes this game a bit too seriously, so I kind of fell off there.
But if you all are joining then why not?
Tsukasa
Well I'm up for it
pieguyn
ilu all <3
NoHitter
Bah you guys should stop being active past 2am. I need to sleep, you know -_-
RadicalFuzz
Hey guys, I'm relatively new to Osu and Mafia, but I've been playing it on another website (Shoryuken) and I'm hooked. Here to introduce myself and sign up for any and/or all Mafia games :)
Also, what do the different formats mean by "Open" or "Closed", I've seen a few of those and am not familiar with them. One last thing, is there any way to subscribe to a thread topic to where you get a message or popup when someone replies? Thanks ahead of time
Chamelo
I hope I won't get modkilled by posting this. If I'm really don't allowed to, please inform me and I'll delete this post.

It maybe a little low quality. Sorry. ^ ^



It'll inform you in your email inbox. (Or in junk folder,)
Chamelo
By the way, welcome to osu! :)
I'm also new here. What I can say now is there won't be any new games until the currently playing game is end.
I assumed that you see "open/closed" format on "modding queue" forum, right?
That's a mod for osu! beatmaps, not for mafia game.

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Well, for my case.
Can I mod somebody's beatmaps while playing mafia? I owned a small modding queue, and I still didn't finished the list yet. ;w;
RadicalFuzz
Thanks CT. In the queue of Mafia games thread some are listed as "Open" "Themed" or "Closed", I was curious what the difference between those were, not Osu maps.
Chamelo
Oh, then it's out of my knowledge. ._. (Since I never access that topic.)
From the look, a "themed" seems to be a role play. But I don't know about open and close.
Sakura
Open = The roles in the setup are known
Closed = The roles existing in the setup are unknown
Themed = Theme flavored or Non-Normal.
RadicalFuzz
Thanks for clarifying Sakura. Closed sounds like it could be pretty devious.
Sakura
Closed is the most common actually.
Chamelo
Thanks Sakura.

Somebody please answer this.
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CTs-Th wrote:

Well, for my case.
Can I mod somebody's beatmaps while playing mafia? I owned a small modding queue, and I still didn't finished the list yet. ;w;
RadicalFuzz

Sakura wrote:

Closed is the most common actually.
That's interesting, the other site where I've played we haven't even had a closed yet. Sounds like fun.
rEdo

CTs-Th wrote:

Well, for my case.
Can I mod somebody's beatmaps while playing mafia? I owned a small modding queue, and I still didn't finished the list yet. ;w;
If I understood the question right, I guess as long as you won't make any Mafia references outside this subforum, there should be no problem with that. I remember modding several fartownik's and one Sephibro's map while in a game.
Sakura
Just going to say that MS currently has their Marathon Games open, if anyone's interested
NoHitter
By the way GIF, your avatar is been bugging me for quite some time now with its quality :(
Tanzklaue
can i request an official mafia ban list?

i think especially with touhou mafia reasons for that should be obvious.
Sakura
Don't think so it's up to mods for them to have their own ban list if they so feel like it, additionally you can have your personal list of people you don't wanna play with.
Tanzklaue

Sakura wrote:

Don't think so it's up to mods for them to have their own ban list if they so feel like it, additionally you can have your personal list of people you don't wanna play with.
well, the people i don't want to play with sadly join 95% of the games these days.
Amianki
There's not enough people playing to really justify anything like this.
Sakura
Well as if me wanting to quit Mafia wasn't enough I have a New Game ban on MS.
Tanzklaue

CalignoBot wrote:

There's not enough people playing to really justify anything like this.
I'm sure new people will want to play after seeing people like sephibro going around calling everyone a noob and a fucktard \:D/
Raging Bull
How you get a new game ban.


And Sephibro and fartownik are like that. If you play IRC mafia, they keep their forum mafia attitude in forum mafia and IRC mafia attitude in IRC.
Tanzklaue

Raging Bull wrote:

How you get a new game ban.


And Sephibro and fartownik are like that. If you play IRC mafia, they keep their forum mafia attitude in forum mafia and IRC mafia attitude in IRC.
farto never ever called anyone (besides sephi probably) any names.

sephi calls everyone constantly out.
Sakura

Raging Bull wrote:

How you get a new game ban.


And Sephibro and fartownik are like that. If you play IRC mafia, they keep their forum mafia attitude in forum mafia and IRC mafia attitude in IRC.
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 8#p5582346
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=35659

Which is funny because i've done said "trust tell" as scum.
NoHitter
What's a trust tell?
Sakura
NoHitter
Wow. So I've been doing something wrong with my red text meta.
Raging Bull
What's replacing out though? Just the same as need to get replaced?
NoHitter
Basically I only tell the truth when I say it in red.
pieguyn

Sakura wrote:

Well as if me wanting to quit Mafia wasn't enough I have a New Game ban on MS.
:cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:
RIP
tbh that's not fair. if you do it as scum it's not a trust tell. =.=
Sakura
Because the player 'Cabd" who reported me has only seen me do it as Town, and so he provided 'evidence' of such.
pieguyn
so they didn't even look into it to see if it was truth or not?

fuck that >.>
Amianki
If you can prove that you have done the trust tell as scum, you should message one of the mods (if you haven't already) that this is case and prove it.

It might not matter to you now, but it could affect your reputation there in the future if you wish to return.
Sakura
the issue is that the game is ongoing.
Amianki
That rule doesn't apply when you're speaking to a listmod or other skittle that is not in the game. It specifically says so here.
Sakura
Well I messaged Equinox, hope he can solve this.
Tsukasa

Raging Bull wrote:

What's replacing out though? Just the same as need to get replaced?
Yep. Just different words

NoHitter wrote:

Basically I only tell the truth when I say it in red.
IMO trust tells are not really "Trustable"
Since easily faked and stuff.

Sakura wrote:

Because the player 'Cabd" who reported me has only seen me do it as Town, and so he provided 'evidence' of such.
Not to be the bad guy here... but... uhm... Isn't your case "Abusive replacing out"? And not "Abusive trust tell"?
I'm kinda lost here because of the ban announcement
Totally not being the bad guy here ;w;
Lincolm
Uncool story. Seriously.

It kinda like abusive of replacing out, not trust tell. (I usually replaced out sooooo many games at sudden busy month, but I had never gotten banned, so what's the problem?)

The real problem argument "replacing out are determining alignment" is bullshit.
Sakura
On other news finally my turn has come:
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 5#p5602845
NoHitter
Oh wow, I joined MS earlier than Caligno ahahaha
Amianki
That is not my first account on that site.
Chamelo
If I'm not wrong Ibarra is NH, right?

Welp, if it that case then Caligno in first. XD
Lincolm
Ankamius isn't first?

I never know NH had it. When I joined, I searched NH but never found him.

Anyway, my ISP has some grudges with mafiascum. :lol:
Amianki
If you want to be super technical, I am, since my first account on that site was made in 2005 or so. As for that account, it was not first, no.
pieguyn
this'll be stack the deck II \o/
Nyquill
I think i'm gonna join MS, anything I should know about the regulars?
NoHitter
MS is where people take Mafia too seriously to the point I quit going there.
Tsukasa
Damn I think I'm in too many games.
I'll have to pass on your game first, sakura.
Unless I die in 1 before the signups are complete

Happy to be a replacement though /o/
Lincolm

NoHitter wrote:

MS is where people take Mafia too seriously to the point I quit going there.
Hehe.. count me in at MS people :lol:

Become serious is fun. Sometimes.
Sephibro
i bet i would trashtalk on MS much more than i do here

i should try it
Sakura
Oh god it's filled... nervousness increasing. X_X
Amianki
I'm requesting /out of that game if it goes through before the site's up long enough for me to /out there. The site constantly going down completely broke my motivation to care about anything that goes on in it at all.
Sakura
But the site's up right now.
Amianki
It's the only site that has constantly given me an OpenDNS error. I haven't been able to access it in over a day.
Sakura
that's weird, it's been ok for me all day
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