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Vulf
Sona, Nasus, and Shyvana were diamond 1 btw. Our Jinx was bronze 2. lol



Support Warwick was actually really fun. Kinda sad the relic shield line is going to get nerfed. :(
Justykanna

Vulf wrote:

Sona, Nasus, and Shyvana were diamond 1 btw. Our Jinx was bronze 2. lol



Support Warwick was actually really fun. Kinda sad the relic shield line is going to get nerfed. :(
Yeah, I'm Bronze and I've been getting matched up with Golds and a Plat every now and then...
'Least in ranked, I got to face high Bronzes and low Silvers at best.
Vulf
Well my normal MMR is pretty much diamond so I'm not surprised when I get matched against them. I just thought it was funny that a bronze 2 pretty much carried a bunch of golds/plats against a team that consisted of 3 diamond 1 players. lol

Then again it was a premade 5 blind pick game. =\
Justykanna

Vulf wrote:

Well my normal MMR is pretty much diamond so I'm not surprised when I get matched against them. I just thought it was funny that a bronze 2 pretty much carried a bunch of golds/plats against a team that consisted of 3 diamond 1 players. lol

Then again it was a premade 5 blind pick game. =\
Ah, I didn't notice that.
My normal MMR can't be gold-silver (or platinum) level though. =/ There's no way I'm that level in normals.
Did they change the way they match people in normals at all?

Heh, yeah, premade 5, that might explain it.

Edit:
Yeah... making no sense...
SiFly_old
Normal MMR is different than the ranked MMR. As you can see the ryze has 500 wins in normal games, 2000 ranked games played previous season. He might have started playing some normals and maybe was silver skill level. Afterwards he spammed 2k ranked games and improved to reach diamond (should be quite easy with 2k games..). His normal game MMR is still unchanged and at the old silver mmr skill level.
maal
and how can you even have "diamond normal mmr" hahahahaha that is the best joke i've ever heard
Vulf
The same way you do in ranked. By winning more games than you lose. duh.
Yes there is MMR for normals believe it or not. There has to be or else it would be way worse for players like Justykanna than it already is.

There is even a site that tells your teams average MMR during games and mine averages between high plat and diamond all the time.
http://quickfind.kassad.in/

SiFly is correct. Ranked MMR and normal MMR is not the same. They are working on a solution to this problem with being paired with gold/plat/diamonds who just troll in normals or just don't play normals enough to have a good MMR so you get matched with them this way as well. They want to make your MMR in normals go off your ranked MMR for the most part, but the problem is they don't want to punish people who rarely play ranked (like me). It's a little complicated so it probably won't be done anytime soon.
GeeNX

maal wrote:

and how can you even have "diamond normal mmr" hahahahaha that is the best joke i've ever heard
It's actually truth, but I believe that soloQ maybe it's in the formula of the "normal mmr" , but my friend had a smurf, unranked, and he got lv30 with much more wins than loses, and he got paired with high diamonds and even challengers playing normal games, and when he played with his other account , platinum one, he got matched with, like everything golds, silvers, and that stuff. I don't know if it's 100% , but well
SiFly_old

GeeNX wrote:

maal wrote:

and how can you even have "diamond normal mmr" hahahahaha that is the best joke i've ever heard
It's actually truth, but I believe that soloQ maybe it's in the formula of the "normal mmr" , but my friend had a smurf, unranked, and he got lv30 with much more wins than loses, and he got paired with high diamonds and even challengers playing normal games, and when he played with his other account , platinum one, he got matched with, like everything golds, silvers, and that stuff. I don't know if it's 100% , but well
It kinda works like that with smurfs. Only when you hit lvl 30, you'll get matched with the other lvl 30 players. This means you can get quite easily get 80% winrate in normal games towards lvl 30 if you play your normal champs.
GeeNX


GG, the final will be amazing
Justykanna

Vulf wrote:

SiFly is correct. Ranked MMR and normal MMR is not the same. They are working on a solution to this problem with being paired with gold/plat/diamonds who just troll in normals or just don't play normals enough to have a good MMR so you get matched with them this way as well. They want to make your MMR in normals go off your ranked MMR for the most part, but the problem is they don't want to punish people who rarely play ranked (like me). It's a little complicated so it probably won't be done anytime soon.
Yeah but then you punish people who've been generally avoiding normals as of late. o_O It completely discourages playing them.

So they didn't change the matchmaking for normals recently? Because I wasn't getting matched with these sorta people with 3.12.

SiFly wrote:

Normal MMR is different than the ranked MMR. As you can see the ryze has 500 wins in normal games, 2000 ranked games played previous season. He might have started playing some normals and maybe was silver skill level. Afterwards he spammed 2k ranked games and improved to reach diamond (should be quite easy with 2k games..). His normal game MMR is still unchanged and at the old silver mmr skill level.
Thanks for the clarification.
Vulf
The last time they changed normal MM was when they adjusted it to take your total games into consideration along with win percentage and went off the average of the 2. They changed it because people who had like 8000 games or an extremely high win rate in normals would have to sit in queue for an hour otherwise. They changed this a long time ago so it's not recent.

The only reason I can think of why you are getting matched with higher rated players often is because it's the pre-season and people don't want to play ranked at this time. Only thing I can say is you are going to have to deal with it until they come up with a solution.

Simply changing it to reflect your ranked MMR is not a good idea because it would just encourage people to troll more because "HURR DURR IT'S JUST NORMALS" mentality people have. Having to play ranked to get decent players in normals is counter intuitive to the problem.

They are working on it just going to have to wait a bit.
maal

Vulf wrote:

The same way you do in ranked. By winning more games than you lose. duh.
Yes there is MMR for normals believe it or not. There has to be or else it would be way worse for players like Justykanna than it already is.

There is even a site that tells your teams average MMR during games and mine averages between high plat and diamond all the time.
http://quickfind.kassad.in/

SiFly is correct. Ranked MMR and normal MMR is not the same. They are working on a solution to this problem with being paired with gold/plat/diamonds who just troll in normals or just don't play normals enough to have a good MMR so you get matched with them this way as well. They want to make your MMR in normals go off your ranked MMR for the most part, but the problem is they don't want to punish people who rarely play ranked (like me). It's a little complicated so it probably won't be done anytime soon.
i dont think you get my joke

can you stop being so fucking serious and an anti-fun person all the fucking time
BrokenArrow
why so toxic
Vulf

maal wrote:

can you stop being so fucking serious and an anti-fun person all the fucking time
Wow you sound incredibly upset.

I'm sorry it bothers you so much.
Hika
errr why anger here all of a sudden

I hate going against plats and diamonds in normals because my duo partner gets intimidated, although he shouldn't. Still wishing normal and ranked MMR were the same, or similar at least.
Justykanna

Vulf wrote:

The only reason I can think of why you are getting matched with higher rated players often is because it's the pre-season and people don't want to play ranked at this time.
Ahh, true. I didn't really think about that.

Putting platinum or diamond players with a Bronze still makes zero sense, lol.
Thanks for the info, Vulf.
Vulf
No problem. :)

And I agree. When I first started I did premades with my level 30 friends so I kinda know the experience. Not fun to get out right stomped at all. Hopefully it is fixed soon.
OzzyOzrock
That normal mmr thing explains so much.

I knew I was in gold.
GeeNX
mother of diamond's evelynn
silmarilen
so much lol

La Volpe
So.Much.Fun.
Navizel
best thing in one for all i guess

- O n i -
Aoriki


- u - no chance...
Cyclohexane


God bless the equalizer, o saint ultimate that will save us from the evil susans

Win baron win game: Normal Pre-S4 edition - Stealing baron with equalizer
xXtidusFRXx
All for One, we had voted a Fiddlesticks team.


CA-CAW CAW CAW CAW CAW CAW CAW CAW! And then some other idiot would ulti after -_-
Kanye West

xXtidusFRXx wrote:

All for One, we had voted a Fiddlesticks team.


CA-CAW CAW CAW CAW CAW CAW CAW CAW! And then some other idiot would ulti after -_-
We played against a Fiddle team with a Nautilus team. Fiddle team didn't stand a chance.
those


great times
Aoriki


I think my comment speaks for itself....
SiFly_old
The only thing you need to know about amumu that not using his Q gives a decent slow on enemies you walk towards. They somehow instantly start walking like they are drunk
Vulf
Tested out those spirit stone changes on PBE. Warwick has 100% mana without blue buff even with spamming Q on CD. Also solo'd dragon at level 4 with about 70% health. Problem is I need to fit that item into my jungle build since I usually skip jungle items all together.

Also tried fiddle with it and he can solo dragon at level 3 with 100% hp and mana. lol
Nunu might even be more OP now.

PS: Even with the cost buff to wriggles it's still a terrible item.
Cyclohexane
I'm liking these first wins I'm getting



Blitz landed like 3 grabs the entire game, but it's alright because lane focused him so I got double kill every time :^)
maal
sigh another fake mlg
tyrael6192
#jokes that only one person will get
Aoriki


Hmhm...
Nofool

tyrael6192 wrote:

#jokes that only one person will get
i don't get it ;_;
SiFly_old
I'll never get those huge 23/2 stats, my mindset is wrong.

If I win 1v1 easily, I'll go 1v2. If that works, I'll go 1v3, etc. It is more fun though trying to outplay enemies hard and trying to dodge everything
GeeNX
too fucking funny... they didn't even had a chance, get donged






showing the power of the dong with the fb & the double, damn fucking funny
Nofool

omg 5 xerath
SiFly_old

One exception, I could actually go 1v4/1v5 in this case and survive often, not your 23/2, but getting close
BrokenArrow
Wait, you can actually play One For All on the ARAM map? Did I miss that option or is that only for custom games?
Fabi
tyrael6192
back in the days when honour badges were a thing
Nofool

BrokenArrow wrote:

Wait, you can actually play One For All on the ARAM map? Did I miss that option or is that only for custom games?
Only for custom games sadly, but this is still way better than one for all on any others map...
Kanye West

GeeNX wrote:

too fucking funny... they didn't even had a chance, get donged






showing the power of the dong with the fb & the double, damn fucking funny
The dongerino is actually op as fuck in OFA haha
SiFly_old


Gragas actually worked in this :o. 4v5 win :)
Blaziken


Ezreal said "ADC" then started building like he was Teemo..
So I started building like I was a MARKSMAN.

Didn't end well..
tyrael6192
Navizel


all these one for all thingies
Jelledot
This was my latest match that I screened, today aswell, a fun 1 for all.
Vyander
someone already played one for all j4 vs j4 ? ahahahahaah
SiFly_old


And got penta on jarvan IV in the game before <3
GeeNX



Im doing what I can, Im trying as hard as I can D:
f i z i k

GeeNX wrote:

Im doing what I can, Im trying as hard as I can D:
You're not,else you wouldn't be bitching about losses doe
tyrael6192
him being upset over losing and him trying his hardest are not mutually exclusive

in fact it makes sense that it affects him more if he tries his absolute best and still loses
maal

tyrael6192 wrote:

him being upset over losing and him trying his hardest are not mutually exclusive

in fact it makes sense that it affects him more if he tries his absolute best and still loses
what does it mean to lose
tyrael6192
when you spectate me and i fuck everything up :>


all for one in a nutshell
Jelledot
Few matches happened today, actually 2 only.





I guess you could say I main ADC.
f i z i k

tyrael6192 wrote:

him being upset over losing and him trying his hardest are not mutually exclusive

in fact it makes sense that it affects him more if he tries his absolute best and still loses
People willing to get better and always trying their best can face losses without getting upset over it. You just face your mistakes and move on. Getting upaet over losses and asking "what can I do to win" just means you're already happy with your performance (even though it wasn't enough).
e: completely irrelevant tho,since he is just playing for the ranks anyways. Playing for ranks makes you face huge motivational downs and losses hurt you (unless you're strong). If you can start playing to improve only you will never lose out. Even if you lose,you will learn and if you get better you get ranks too. Too sad 99,8% won't realise and would rather get mad "why can't I carry".
Jelledot

kT fizik wrote:

tyrael6192 wrote:

him being upset over losing and him trying his hardest are not mutually exclusive

in fact it makes sense that it affects him more if he tries his absolute best and still loses
People willing to get better and always trying their best can face losses without getting upset over it. You just face your mistakes and move on. Getting upaet over losses and asking "what can I do to win" just means you're already happy with your performance (even though it wasn't enough).
I agree though, when I was Bronze in S2 I never thought I'd make it to Silver or higher, I just had to keep trying which I did, and now I'm in Gold V, just try to have 1 main champion for each lane for whatever situation you get put in, you got a champion you can play. ^^;
Aoriki


I'm having way too much fun with All for one....
tyrael6192
yeah see except there's a difference between facing a loss and facing constant, consecutive losses because of shit teams where you've done everything you deem possible to try and win the game

it tends to have some psychological impact

and no this isn't "blame your team and never focus on improving yourself" this is acknowledging the fact that shit happens and when it happens consecutively it makes you feel like trash

all you're saying is "wow you're sad that you lost games where u did really well? you're trash and you're never gonna improve" and that's a stupid inference because 1. you don't even know how good he is or how much time he spends analyzing his own mistakes and 2. he's allowed to feel things because idk??? he's not a fucking emotionless brick? //?? ???

edit idc why am i arguing whatever man
La Volpe
Tried my luck with the mystery box and I got:

-Headhunter Master Yi
-Yellow Jacket Shen
-Pool Party Leona

Not bad. :)
GeeNX
I got rageborn mundo, yeah
those
You're the only constant in all the games you lose.
Cyclohexane


/flex
tyrael6192

those wrote:

You're the only constant in all the games you lose.
as are you the only constant in all the games you win
Blaziken



She did tell me to stay positive. I guess it works. :D
I also finally reached Level 30.
Fuck playing ranked when I can't win more than half my games.
f i z i k

tyrael6192 wrote:

yeah see except there's a difference between facing a loss and facing constant, consecutive losses because of shit teams where you've done everything you deem possible to try and win the game

it tends to have some psychological impact

and no this isn't "blame your team and never focus on improving yourself" this is acknowledging the fact that shit happens and when it happens consecutively it makes you feel like trash

all you're saying is "wow you're sad that you lost games where u did really well? you're trash and you're never gonna improve" and that's a stupid inference because 1. you don't even know how good he is or how much time he spends analyzing his own mistakes and 2. he's allowed to feel things because idk??? he's not a fucking emotionless brick? //?? ???

edit idc why am i arguing whatever man
It's not what I am saying,I thought I could have an intelligent discussion but apparently not possible if you rage. I said if he wants to improve this isn't he best way to do it but everyone can do whatever the fuck they want. Just thouht I could share my experience for someone who (seemingly) tries to get better...no need to freak out and feel attacked l0l. Its whatever >____>
GeeNX
First time Jinx, decided to try her out at jungle... and did penta xD


Jelledot
Got a Penta as AP Ez earlier today in ranked --> Also 1 win / 1 loss in ranked. :c
meowfish
riot can be so cruel
Nofool

GeeNX wrote:

First time Jinx, decided to try her out at jungle... and did penta xD
jinx jungle... pls, am i supposed to play adc in jungle to get some penta now ?_?
Cyclohexane
I think you're supposed to play well in order to get pentas.
GeeNX
Jinx, Ashe, Ezreal and Urgot can actually jungle quite well. Just be aware of the tryhards counterjungling
tyrael6192

kT fizik wrote:

It's not what I am saying,I thought I could have an intelligent discussion but apparently not possible if you rage. I said if he wants to improve this isn't he best way to do it but everyone can do whatever the fuck they want. Just thouht I could share my experience for someone who (seemingly) tries to get better...no need to freak out and feel attacked l0l. Its whatever >____>
idk man your initial post was pretty aggressive

"i'm trying really hard"
"no you're not else you wouldn't be bitching"

that's not really intelligent discussion

but yeah whatever who cares
Kanye West
Why is counterjungling tryhard? Enemy adc jungle = free kills if you catch them in their jungle lol
Nofool

Mr Color wrote:

I think you're supposed to play well in order to get pentas.
I was just kiding T_T I don't even know how much pentas i already did ,_,

GeeNX wrote:

Jinx, Ashe, Ezreal and Urgot can actually jungle quite well. Just be aware of the tryhards counterjungling
I tried Ez and Corki jungle last season, it was not that hard yeah õ_o, easier with the new jungle I guess
1onz

litterally balls flying around everywhere, greatest game ever
Stefan


yeeee

also got from someone Full machine Viktor
Cyclohexane


please
Navizel


Will there be a reset in rank? Fucking finally got out of Bronze I.
Aoriki


Charms are op guys.
Vulf

Otonashi07 wrote:



Will there be a reset in rank? Fucking finally got out of Bronze I.
Soft reset that goes off your MMR. If you do well in your placements you should get back to where you left off. This only applies to people gold and under though since you can't get put directly into diamond from your placements.
Navizel
Oh I see. thanks for the info.
Fabi
D2, getting about 20LP. Get to D1, winning 2 - 4 LP, fuck this sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet!
Sankaritarina

Mr Color wrote:

I think you're supposed to play well in order to get pentas.
Or play Riven
GeeNX


Taric's a beast
PyaKura

GeeNX wrote:



Taric's a beast
Agreed.



lololol...
BrokenArrow


It hurts so much playing in this league.. from now on I'll make sure to straight on mute everyone in rankeds so I don't have to read so much crap.. x_x
Like a Vayne complaining about her support "stealing" her farm with Tagon's.. an Evelynn who doesn't want to gank because she is afraid the enemy might have wards in that bush.. etc.
IT HURTS.
GeeNX


well...yeah
Kreyu
doh, I think Evelynn is a good pick in 3v3 in jungle, anyone playing on Twisted Treeline with good team comp?
OzzyOzrock
Bought my self two mystery gifts, Dynasty Ahri and Forecast Janna. So good.

NekoAsuna wrote:

doh, I think Evelynn is a good pick in 3v3 in jungle, anyone playing on Twisted Treeline with good team comp?
I have no clue what the meta even is in 3v3 but I just play Lee Sin and get fed every game. I've only lost against a team with Ezreal Lux and Jayce, strong pokers. It's a fun game mode.
Blaziken

Got bored.
maal

Blaziken wrote:


Got bored.
and thus you call a fiora who had a bad game "feedora"

i hope you feel really bad about yourself tbh
BrokenArrow
that actually made me laugh big time
unless you meant it seriously, then you are indeed a bad person
Blaziken
I shall now go and think over my life.
Thanks for the input.
In all honesty the player was flaming her whole team saying how she was the only good player on their side and that we would all lose 1v1.
In a 5v5 game. Bitch didn't know about my passive.
Uni


Im cheating wat?
BrokenArrow
BotrK also does give some lifesteal
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