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Matchup is the instance of one or more champion(s) versus another. You can have good, equal, or bad matchups.

At every level of play, people will try to counter pick. Only at the higher levels will it actually matter; in order to outmatch the enemy by counterpicking it is assumed skill is already high enough from both sides.
maal
maal

SoG Tava wrote:

play cait and sona they are realy good and not hard to play
idk that's your opinion really. sona is faceroll on keyboard sure, but can you time the proper power chord for your adc and you to win the trade? do you know when to ult so you actually secure a kill for your adc?

cait surely has the longest range in the whole game, but saying she's "not hard to play" is an underestatement. i honestly think she's hard to play, i have no clue why. call me bad or whatever, but i think cait is pretty hard.
Sapphiire_old_1
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Sapphiire_old_1

maal wrote:

SoG Tava wrote:

play cait and sona they are realy good and not hard to play
idk that's your opinion really. sona is faceroll on keyboard sure, but can you time the proper power chord for your adc and you to win the trade? do you know when to ult so you actually secure a kill for your adc?

cait surely has the longest range in the whole game, but saying she's "not hard to play" is an underestatement. i honestly think she's hard to play, i have no clue why. call me bad or whatever, but i think cait is pretty hard.
Well if u look it that way every champ is hard to play , u still need to practice of course
GeeNX
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GeeNX
If you do main adc caitlyn is not hard, but if you main something else and you don't know how to make Caitlyn worth (like me) then don't pick her.
psKirika
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psKirika

tyrael6192 wrote:

i find people are a lot more concerned with lane counters at lower elo, and then as you get higher people gradually start to give 0 fucks and play whatever

matchups aren't exactly the same thing iirc? it's more the dynamic of how one champion works against another and it's just something you learn through playing vs everyone

This is so true and so wrong at the same time. Picking the right/wrong champions can win/lose the lane straight. I ALWAYS chose an adc by our teamcomp / their bot lane. While others might not and get crushed in lane by first picking and insta-locking Vayne.
Justykanna
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Justykanna
I step away from my computer for half an hour and there's like... five more posts here... D=

SoG Tava wrote:

play cait and sona they are realy good and not hard to play
I've actually tried both and didn't like either. =/
Didn't like Caitlyn's kit at all. Her ultimate's easily blocked by someone else, her Q keeps her in one spot for a short time. I like Sivir because she's mobile, she has a defensive option (her spell shield) and her Q takes zero time to launch and people can't dodge it (which makes it super fun). I loved her before the rework.

Sona... ehhh... I don't feel like she has enough to protect her ADC. Nami has a stun, slow, heal, poke and wide-range, long-range ultimate slow. Then her passive.

SoG Tava wrote:

Well if u look it that way every champ is hard to play , u still need to practice of course
At least for ADC, I need someone mobile. I considered Lucian but I heard he's underpowered.
Support, I need someone who can poke and protect the ADC really well and I just find Nami's best for that.

tyrael6192 wrote:

i find people are a lot more concerned with lane counters at lower elo, and then as you get higher people gradually start to give 0 fucks and play whatever

psKirika wrote:

This is so true and so wrong at the same time. Picking the right/wrong champions can win/lose the lane straight. I ALWAYS chose an adc by our teamcomp / their bot lane. While others might not and get crushed in lane by first picking and insta-locking Vayne.
I thought that you were suppose to counter-pick all the time (I have friends who watch pros while I do not) but wasn't told until late that matchups matter less at Bronze level. I'll worry about matchups when I start to rank up, but at Bronze, I don't care... yet.

I mean, if I see a Pantheon, I'm not gonna pick my main (Gangplank).
That reminds me, why do people hate Gangplank so much? o_O

I've seen a lot of Vayne banning lately. I guess she's popular?
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psKirika
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psKirika

Justykanna wrote:

I step away from my computer for half an hour and there's like... five more posts here... D=

SoG Tava wrote:

play cait and sona they are realy good and not hard to play
I've actually tried both and didn't like either. =/
Didn't like Caitlyn's kit at all. Her ultimate's easily blocked by someone else, her Q keeps her in one spot for a short time. I like Sivir because she's mobile and her Q takes zero time to launch and people can't dodge it (which makes it super fun). I loved her before the rework.

Sona... ehhh... I don't feel like she has enough to protect her ADC. Nami has a stun, slow, heal, poke and wide-range, long-range ultimate slow. Then her passive.

SoG Tava wrote:

Well if u look it that way every champ is hard to play , u still need to practice of course
At least for ADC, I need someone mobile. I considered Lucian but I heard he's underpowered.
Support, I need someone who can poke and protect the ADC really well and I just find Nami's best for that.

tyrael6192 wrote:

i find people are a lot more concerned with lane counters at lower elo, and then as you get higher people gradually start to give 0 fucks and play whatever

psKirika wrote:

This is so true and so wrong at the same time. Picking the right/wrong champions can win/lose the lane straight. I ALWAYS chose an adc by our teamcomp / their bot lane. While others might not and get crushed in lane by first picking and insta-locking Vayne.
I thought that you were suppose to counter-pick all the time (I have friends who watch pros while I do not) but wasn't told until late that matchups matter less at Bronze level. I'll worry about matchups when I start to rank up, but at Bronze, I don't care... yet.

I mean, if I see a Pantheon, I'm not gonna pick my main (Gangplank).
That reminds me, why do people hate Gangplank so much? o_O

I've seen a lot of Vayne banning lately. I guess she's popular?
Vayne is banned because she's basically the strongest adc duelist late game and can carry hard alone. For example, 1 item Vayne = 2 item Cait etc.

The thing is though, she usually has a horrible laning phrase versus most adc's, and when I see a enemy first pick vayne, I can feel the LP just cash in as I know I'm usually able to crush bot lane.
Kanye West
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Pff...not with a halfway decent support. Any vayne I support is absolutely huge coming out of laning phase...and proceeds to throw by trying and failing to 1v4. Why does every vayne player think they're doublelift lol
those
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those
hi im gosu

Navizel
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Navizel
http://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/news/c ... out-sheath

any thoughts?

also
SPOILER
GeeNX
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GeeNX
I don't play adc, but when I do, I'm Doublelift
Nofool
Elite Mapper
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Nofool
I always play adc, but I'm never like Doublelift
#vayne dying 1v4
BrokenArrow
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BrokenArrow
The first 2 games I played Caitlyn in ranked I stole a dragon with my Q without having it warded. Felt so good :D
At the same time those were the first dragon steals I've ever done. Still lost the game :/
tyrael6192
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tyrael6192

psKirika wrote:

tyrael6192 wrote:

i find people are a lot more concerned with lane counters at lower elo, and then as you get higher people gradually start to give 0 fucks and play whatever

matchups aren't exactly the same thing iirc? it's more the dynamic of how one champion works against another and it's just something you learn through playing vs everyone

This is so true and so wrong at the same time. Picking the right/wrong champions can win/lose the lane straight. I ALWAYS chose an adc by our teamcomp / their bot lane. While others might not and get crushed in lane by first picking and insta-locking Vayne.
a skilled and practiced vayne destroys a championselect.net hero who plays a mediocre caitlyn

but the point is if you're climbing and playing one champion you're good at you will inadvertently come up against your counters and 50%+ of the time you will beat them anyway because they prioritize "lol counter them easy gg" over knowing a champion

this applies less to bot lane because of weird synergies and shit but solo lanes? always
maal
maal

Nofool wrote:

I always play adc, but I'm never like Doublelift
#vayne dying 1v4
no ur the #vayne killing 1v4



anyway what tyrael says is somewhat true

thing is championselect.net and all these websites only take LANING phase into account


caitlyn vayne's hardest counter? ask them when they both have full items at 40 min mark

a bad vayne can even kill a mediocre caitlyn
Kanye West
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Kanye West

maal wrote:

Nofool wrote:

I always play adc, but I'm never like Doublelift
#vayne dying 1v4
no ur the #vayne killing 1v4



anyway what tyrael says is somewhat true

thing is championselect.net and all these websites only take LANING phase into account


caitlyn vayne's hardest counter? ask them when they both have full items at 40 min mark

a bad vayne can even kill a mediocre caitlyn

But see, by your logic, Nasus counters every toplaner. Vayne obviously scales harder than Cait, but that's not what we're discussing.

I wouldn't say Cait is Vayne's hardest counter but in a Cait and Vayne matchup of equal skill and equally competent supports, the Cait should have a pretty sizable CS lead coming out of laning phase.

The hardest counter to Vayne is team coordination, gapclosers, CC, AS reduction, and oracles/pink wards. Same as any AD Carry actually. The reason Vayne is so strong in solo queue is that nobody has any coordination so you can skirmish your way to win. Whereas, in competitive play, when Vayne is picked, there needs to be a team comp built around her.
maal
maal
when did i say nasus counters everyone

i didnt talk about cs stacks

tell me someone who can counter nasus late game who has infinite stacks? noone
GeeNX
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GeeNX
Veigar with infinite stacks
Kanye West
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Kanye West
My point being, we were talking about the laning phase and you were talking about lategame scaling.

Lategame scaling is irrelevant if you can never get there.
maal
maal
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psKirika
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psKirika
@tyrael

Yeyeye i get your point.

Just saying, I'm not a medicore caitlyn. Plus, If both are equally skilled, caitlyn will have a noticeably large cs lead. As Kayne said.

On phone, to lazy to argument
tyrael6192
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tyrael6192
i'm not arguing for anything i know nothing about this game

i think the general point i wanna make to justykanna is don't force yourself to play a champion you're not familiar with just to counter someone in a solo lane because the majority of the time you'll contribute more to the game by playing someone you know and understand

obviously if we take this to "i know every champion in the game because i am diamond" level then yeah counter away because you're more or less equally reliable no matter what champ you play and you're not sacrificing anything by picking a counter
Justykanna
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Justykanna

Kanye West wrote:

Why does every vayne player think they're doublelift lol
Doublelift the name of a player I'm guessing?

Otonashi07 wrote:

http://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/news/c ... out-sheath

any thoughts?
I'm actually really excited to see that one. I've never been overly excited for a new champion, but this one sounds cool. =)

Kanye West wrote:

But see, by your logic, Nasus counters every toplaner.
I actually didn't see Nasus get any (litterally) banned votes in ranked until two weeks ago, and then EVERY game had a him banned. Anyone know why? =/ I don't get it! lol.

tyrael6192 wrote:

i think the general point i wanna make to justykanna is don't force yourself to play a champion you're not familiar with just to counter someone in a solo lane because the majority of the time you'll contribute more to the game by playing someone you know and understand
Thank you for clarifying! =)
Hika
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Hika
I don't know why but every time I see an Ezreal player, I like to assume they're all dicks. Don't know why, but Ezreal seems like a real huge dick.

Like his champion picture.. his smug, prick face. too good.
Kanye West
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Kanye West

Justykanna wrote:

Kanye West wrote:

Why does every vayne player think they're doublelift lol
Doublelift the name of a player I'm guessing?
justykanna pls

Vulf
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Vulf
If you don't know how to play the champion that counters something and you pick it expecting to have an auto win in lane you are going to have a bad time. I've picked Warwick into horrible things before and still won my lane because I was simply better than the other person and vice-versa.

There was a hidden nasus nerf on pbe. Life Steal is now 10% instead of 14% early game. Keep em coming. probably won't be nerfed more until after they make money from his new skin though.
Justykanna
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Justykanna

Kanye West wrote:

justykanna pls
Please what?

Vulf wrote:

There was a hidden nasus nerf on pbe. Life Steal is now 10% instead of 14% early game. Keep em coming. probably won't be nerfed more until after they make money from his new skin though.
How does that explain why he's been getting banned left and right, now?
Vulf
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Vulf
Nasus will get nerfed for the same reason Warwick got nerfed (actually gutted) in season 2. He is immovable in lane and that is stupid and not fun to play against. He is a very strong late game champion that has probably the easiest early game to get there and that is a problem. Everything that used to straight up destroy him in lane has been nerfed. Also the new dorans shield made a lot of stuff with built in sustain really strong.

Nerfing his early game sustain is a step in the right direction, but he needs to be nerfed a little more.
Sapphiire_old_1
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Sapphiire_old_1
@ Vulf can u post me ure lolking ? i want to see how u build ure Warwick
maal
maal

Vulf wrote:

Nasus will get nerfed for the same reason Warwick got nerfed (actually gutted) in season 2. He is immovable in lane and that is stupid and not fun to play against. He is a very strong late game champion that has probably the easiest early game to get there and that is a problem. Everything that used to straight up destroy him in lane has been nerfed. Also the new dorans shield made a lot of stuff with built in sustain really strong.

Nerfing his early game sustain is a step in the right direction, but he needs to be nerfed a little more.
forget the shield

double dorans ring is way stronger on him

9 mana after each kill + 6 mana regen and his q only costs 20 mana


thats a nasus thatll never feel the need to come out of lane
Sapphiire_old_1
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Sapphiire_old_1

maal wrote:

Vulf wrote:

Nasus will get nerfed for the same reason Warwick got nerfed (actually gutted) in season 2. He is immovable in lane and that is stupid and not fun to play against. He is a very strong late game champion that has probably the easiest early game to get there and that is a problem. Everything that used to straight up destroy him in lane has been nerfed. Also the new dorans shield made a lot of stuff with built in sustain really strong.

Nerfing his early game sustain is a step in the right direction, but he needs to be nerfed a little more.
forget the shield

double dorans ring is way stronger on him

9 mana after each kill + 6 mana regen and his q only costs 20 mana


thats a nasus thatll never feel the need to come out of lane
Wow actually thats a pretty good idea , i wonder why i never see pro players do that :/
Shimy
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Shimy
nasus has low mana problems if you play him right =.=
Vulf
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Vulf
Probably because building mana regen on a champion that doesn't have mana problems is why. You are spending 800 gold on stats you don't need other than the 120 health. Dorans shield gives everything he wants for almost half that price 100 health 13 reduced damage from AA's (if you go defense tree masteries) and health regen that stacks well with his passive. Mana issues are the least of his worries.

lolking: http://www.lolking.net/summoner/na/23350782#history

Haven't really been playing league much lately because I'm bored with how stagnant season 3 has become. Match History is mostly Dominion, Arams and bot games lol.

Been playing a ton of Smite instead. :)
Sapphiire_old_1
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Sapphiire_old_1

Vulf wrote:

Probably because building mana regen on a champion that doesn't have mana problems is why. You are spending 800 gold on stats you don't need other than the 120 health. Dorans shield gives everything he wants for almost half that price 100 health 13 reduced damage from AA's (if you go defense tree masteries) and health regen that stacks well with his passive. Mana issues are the least of his worries.

lolking: http://www.lolking.net/summoner/na/23350782#history

Haven't really been playing league much lately because I'm bored with how stagnant season 3 has become. Match History is mostly Dominion, Arams and bot games lol.

Been playing a ton of Smite instead. :)

also why u decide to main Warwick ? the only other guy i know that does that ore did was Guardsman Bob
maal
maal
jfc
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SiFly_old
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SiFly_old
Something for those people what say they need better reaction times, you've easily good enough reaction times if you play osu!. 99% of the time it is not about the reaction, but knowing that the enemy will do X or Y and knowing what you have to do to counter it. Quite easy to dodge nidalee spears if you know they are incoming? That is the same for most other abilities though some are a bit harder to get used to. Especially with champions that have some dodge ability allow you to dodge basically every skillshot if you know the enemy will use it. How do you know he will use it? Think about what you do in his situation.

Vulf wrote:

If you don't know how to play the champion that counters something and you pick it expecting to have an auto win in lane you are going to have a bad time. I've picked Warwick into horrible things before and still won my lane because I was simply better than the other person and vice-versa.
Quite funny with a champion that has no skillshots or something that really involves counterplay ;)

Shimy wrote:

nasus has low mana problems if you play him right =.=
He has enough to use his Q 24/7. The main goal is not to use his W/E since it will drain your mana. Indeed he doesn't need additional mana regen and he gets enough initial mana by building the glacial shroud/sheen items
Vulf
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Vulf

SoG Tava wrote:

also why u decide to main Warwick ? the only other guy i know that does that ore did was Guardsman Bob
Warwick is the reason I started playing League in the first place. At the time I was looking for a game that had an interesting werewolf character and LoL was my only decent option. To keep it short I really enjoy his theme. Warwick will always be my main. :)
Sapphiire_old_1
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Sapphiire_old_1



Srsly Riot ? Ure Servers are so Unstable Almost every day i see on reddit Euw is having issues u may have connection issues , but oh well i can deal with that but now u ban me because ure servers are unstable ? sigh GG WP Riot


Vulf wrote:

SoG Tava wrote:

also why u decide to main Warwick ? the only other guy i know that does that ore did was Guardsman Bob
Warwick is the reason I started playing League in the first place. At the time I was looking for a game that had an interesting werewolf character and LoL was my only decent option. To keep it short I really enjoy his theme. Warwick will always be my main. :)
If u like Werewolf's so Much and if u maybe like Shooters i higly recomand u to play Wolfteam :)
silmarilen
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silmarilen
what does ure mean?
Sapphiire_old_1
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Sapphiire_old_1

silmarilen wrote:

what does ure mean?

ure is a shortening word
SiFly_old
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SiFly_old
He probably means YOUR, which you can shorten with you=u to ur. His ure, is the wrong you're into ure.
BrokenArrow
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BrokenArrow
Got another pentakill with Zed today, he's still so strong once you got used to his changes. :)
I actually like his new ult much more than the old one because you are able to disengage much smoother. You don't need the extra Q from the shadow to kill squishy targets in endgame anyways, just the slower travel speed is a pain in the ass. :v
Navizel
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Navizel


been months since I last played Kat and game was 4v5 (lux reconnected way too late). Kat still quite op in 1v1
Justykanna
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Justykanna

Otonashi07 wrote:



been months since I last played Kat and game was 4v5 (lux reconnected way too late). Kat still quite op in 1v1
Heh.
Reminds me of a 4v5 game I had a week or two ago.

ADC never connected so we started freaking out a little because we didn't have a ton of damage.
Shaco mid vs Shyvana, he got demolished.
Riven wasn't making the best choices against me, top.
And their jungler didn't gank all that much... when did he always sat where wards were planted.

After laning phase, we just kept stacking ultimates and they kept stacking on each other. I intiate, Sona stuns, Hecarim fears. And even the Shyvana somewhere in there wasn't bad. Was absolutely hilarious to watch.
Kanye West
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Kanye West
You guys who want to pick up a midlaner: try midalee. Holy christ she is so op, and fun. Landing 1 skillshot to almost 100-0 someone is hella op
GeeNX
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GeeNX


So.... we just won the GoEs4LoL, I am so happy with my team now :)
Vulf
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Vulf

Kanye West wrote:

You guys who want to pick up a midlaner: try midalee. Holy christ she is so op, and fun. Landing 1 skillshot to almost 100-0 someone is hella op
and that is why she is getting nerfed and reworked in season 4.
maal
maal
SPOILER

playing on eune and this happens
Neroh
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Neroh
No idea if anyone has posted this to here yet, but Riot posted some more info about S4 about an hour ago, looking pretty good.
http://preseason.na.leagueoflegends.com ... eflow.html
JesusYamato
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JesusYamato

From gold2 to diamond5 in 2weeks, around 50games, went around 42-8.
Also i'm apparently top 10 cassiopeia world this week.
I can quit this game now.
Kanye West
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Kanye West

maal wrote:

SPOILER

playing on eune and this happens
EUNE challenger is NA bronze 5 kappa
maal
maal

Kanye West wrote:

maal wrote:

SPOILER

playing on eune and this happens
EUNE challenger is NA bronze 5 kappa
im talking about the pax sivir

challenger guy is a friend of mine from this forum
GeeNX
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GeeNX
I still want to see a Toboggan corki not purchased with the relaunch of the skins. That is really damn epic
cokeshawty
383 posts
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cokeshawty
Okay. Joined champ select and these are the first things I see. I'm already done for today. Left the queue just 'cause I just knew this was going to be a pointless loss. Pathetic, awful, disgusting, ridiculous.. can't seem to find the right word for it..

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Justykanna
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Justykanna

Buu wrote:

Okay. I'm done for today. Left the queue just 'cause I just knew this was going to be a pointless loss. Pathetic, awful, disgusting, ridiculous.. can't seem to find the right word for it..

I've seen a lot of dumb crap but that's just kinda... ... special.
cokeshawty
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cokeshawty

Justykanna wrote:

Buu wrote:

Okay. I'm done for today. Left the queue just 'cause I just knew this was going to be a pointless loss. Pathetic, awful, disgusting, ridiculous.. can't seem to find the right word for it..

I've seen a lot of dumb crap but that's just kinda... ... special.
Really frustrating. I barely even know what to say. This even was ranked. I was in my promo games to Plat, so my 'leave' counted as a loss.
Justykanna
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Justykanna

Buu wrote:

Really frustrating. I barely even know what to say. This even was ranked. I was in my promo games to Plat, so my 'leave' counted as a loss.
I wouldn't know what to say either.
What number pick was this person anyway? Last or something?
Yeahhhhh, that's rough. I would have just stayed and muted him for a promotion to Platinum though. You never know.
cokeshawty
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cokeshawty

Justykanna wrote:

Buu wrote:

Really frustrating. I barely even know what to say. This even was ranked. I was in my promo games to Plat, so my 'leave' counted as a loss.
I wouldn't know what to say either.
What number pick was this person anyway? Last or something?
Yeahhhhh, that's rough. I would have just stayed and muted him for a promotion to Platinum though. You never know.
Yeah he was last pick. I left because I'd rather avoid further brain damage than maybe have a slight chance to have a possibility to win the game and be left with mental issues... promo matches come and go, a trauma stays forever.
Neroh
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Neroh
and down goes the EUW server for the millionth time this year...
cokeshawty
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cokeshawty

Neroh wrote:

and down goes the EUW server for the millionth time this year...
month*
tyrael6192
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tyrael6192
day*
GeeNX
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GeeNX
this fucking twitch tv chat making me laugh so hard xD TCM vs SK final of a challenger tournament, every one saying OHH TSM

when jwaow is deleting people they are like, DYRUS NICE ONE SHOT, Motroco carrying the 4th game and they're saying wow MoTurtle carrying so hard, well at least some times twitch tv chat is funny ;D
tyrael6192
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tyrael6192


twitch chat is the best and nobody will ever tell me otherwise
Sapphiire_old_1
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Sapphiire_old_1

Neroh wrote:

and down goes the EUW server for the millionth time this year...

Yeah i am kinda getting tired of it :/ they gonna improve by moving the providers and sever to amsterdam for Euw but still till then we have to accept that shit
Nofool
Elite Mapper
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Nofool

tyrael6192 wrote:



twitch chat is the best and nobody will ever tell me otherwise
people there are like all pro humorist... too much epic sentence come from this chat ,_,
Sapphiire_old_1
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Sapphiire_old_1

Nofool wrote:

tyrael6192 wrote:



twitch chat is the best and nobody will ever tell me otherwise
people there are like all pro humorist... too much epic sentence come from this chat ,_,

Twitch chat can be so epic yet most of the times just full retard and kappa spam :/
Nofool
Elite Mapper
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Nofool

SoG Tava wrote:

Twitch chat can be so epic yet most of the times just full retard and kappa spam :/
that's why it's so funny XD
Sapphiire_old_1
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Sapphiire_old_1

Nofool wrote:

SoG Tava wrote:

Twitch chat can be so epic yet most of the times just full retard and kappa spam :/
that's why it's so funny XD

Well at the start yes , but now its always the same shit and its kinda boring now most of the times i dont even read the twitch chat
Vulf
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Vulf

Buu wrote:

Buu wrote:

Okay. I'm done for today. Left the queue just 'cause I just knew this was going to be a pointless loss. Pathetic, awful, disgusting, ridiculous.. can't seem to find the right word for it..


Really frustrating. I barely even know what to say. This even was ranked. I was in my promo games to Plat, so my 'leave' counted as a loss.
You think people will be civil because it's ranked queue? lol
That's one of the plethora of reasons why I absolutely hate ranked.

Honestly I would have just played the game and reported him and included that screen shot in the description of the report that way people in the tribunal would have saw that. It's the pre-season so it's not like losing really affects you all that much anyways.
tyrael6192
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tyrael6192
this shitty behaviour is endemic in the community and has nothing to do with ranked

if you say "they won't be civil just because it's ranked" you're implying that they would have behaved in exactly the same way had they not chosen to play ranked, and that the concept of ranked has failed to normalize their behaviour. that just means they're toxic as shit to start off with and you're gonna have a bad time no matter what circumstance you meet them in
Vulf
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Vulf
It's definitely more common in ranked.

The amount of people I get like that in my ranked games compared to normals is insane. My MMR for normals is ridiculously high so I get matched against/with people that try hard, but they don't make a big deal if they don't get what they want in champion select or if something goes horribly wrong in game. I assume this also applies with high MMR in ranked as well.

In other words being at the bottom of the barrel sucks. At least from my experience.
GeeNX
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GeeNX
just did xpeke with my smurf, im so happy xD
Clinkzton
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Clinkzton
Can't wait for Heroes of the Storm. Gonna be so epic.
Kanye West
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Kanye West


So apparently the Season 4 jungle is going to be even worse than season 3's. Slightly more jungle income in exchange for harder clear, less experience, and an even shittier wriggles. Seriously, nobody built wriggles in season 3 and then they go nerf it again, so fucking dumb. How Riot can fuck up this badly is simply beyond me.

Man I knew that the jungler role was going to hell when they took away the season 1 jungle and wriggles and introduced that crappy machete item.
Vulf
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Vulf
The new wriggles only really makes AoE power farmers like Skarner, Udyr and Shyvana better. This item was meant to help out single target junglers that struggle and just want to farm for a bit like Warwick, but once again they failed and ended up making it dumb on the wrong stuff. I'd rather have the old wriggles from season 2 back. RNG and all.

The new jungle isn't really different from the current one at all except AoE farmers will come back into the scene, but slow clearers like Warwick, GP, and early game Nautilus are still going to be trash in the jungle until they get items and levels. =\

Just face it a season 1 type jungle is never going to come back.
silmarilen
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silmarilen
when did junglers start building wriggles again?
GeeNX
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GeeNX
I think I didnt build wriggle since.... months lol, I just get madreds and I never finish it
Ralfzz
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Ralfzz


skipped division again D:
Vulf
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Vulf
Wriggles was never good in season 3 because the other jungle items are far superior in every way. I stopped building this item regularly after it was destroyed in the lulu patch.

They should have made it build into something in season 3, but instead they nerfed it more lol.
silmarilen
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silmarilen
why is the guy in that video using one then?
GeeNX
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GeeNX
Well, everyone can build whatever they want, maybe its worth for him who knows.

I am a girl, I have boobs, can someone help me getting diamond S4? :(
SiFly_old
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SiFly_old

GeeNX wrote:

I am a girl, I have boobs, can someone help me getting diamond S4? :(
Start stream, wait till pro player likes you and get boosted by his smurf.

That is how it works right?
Vulf
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Vulf

silmarilen wrote:

why is the guy in that video using one then?
It's being remade and he was testing it out? The video is the jungle changes on the PBE this isn't live.

Wriggles is getting remade again for season 4 to give some shitty combat stats and grants 40% gold from jungle monsters. If you are not someone who can tear through the jungle like it's nothing (Shyvana, Udyr) it's going to be a noob trap. Maybe junglers who can balance farming and ganking (Kha'Zix) can make use of it, but the other Jungle items will be better on those types of junglers still. Do note that the spirit items will grant some gold too, but not as much as the new wriggles.

As he said in the video and like 5 videos before this one you have to buy wriggles (1800 gold) to start getting that extra gold income. It's the same logic as a gp 10 item except it doesn't build into anything useful.
BrokenArrow
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BrokenArrow
6 out of my 7 games today were trollgames with at least 1 afk on my team. Seems like nobody gives a single fuck about anything during pre-preseason. -_-
Vulf
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Vulf

BrokenArrow wrote:

6 out of my 7 games today were trollgames with at least 1 afk on my team. Seems like nobody gives a single fuck about anything during pre-preseason. -_-
Pretty much yeah. There will be a soft reset when season 4 finally starts. You would still want decent MMR so you can be close to where you left off the previous season though.
Rukario
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Rukario
Oh hey, what a shock, EUW is down. This surely never happened before.
GeeNX
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GeeNX

SiFly wrote:

GeeNX wrote:

I am a girl, I have boobs, can someone help me getting diamond S4? :(
Start stream, wait till pro player likes you and get boosted by his smurf.

That is how it works right?
my team and me played vs a female team, they were diamond I, and all diamond II III or so, unless 1 platinum and .. .well, was abit obivous there were rushed xD
dekoe
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dekoe

BrokenArrow wrote:

6 out of my 7 games today were trollgames with at least 1 afk on my team. Seems like nobody gives a single fuck about anything during pre-preseason. -_-
playing in preseason is like gambling
GeeNX
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GeeNX
playin-oh right, you are not from EUW, you can actually play
cokeshawty
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cokeshawty

Rukario wrote:

Oh hey, what a shock, EUW is down. This surely never happened before.
La Volpe
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La Volpe
I've been last pick quite alot lately. :roll:
Slith
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Slith

La Volpe wrote:

I've been last pick quite alot lately. :roll:
that's just normal. you can be anything you want at normal. play rank at low ELO and feel the wrath of being last pick
La Volpe
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La Volpe

Slith wrote:

that's just normal. you can be anything you want at normal. play rank at low ELO and feel the wrath of being last pick
Normal or ranked games my point is: I find it sad that people avoid support like if it was some kind of STD. Also, in ranked got more people willing to play support and i'm in Silver 5. (I consider it low "Elo")
Sapphiire_old_1
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Sapphiire_old_1

La Volpe wrote:

I've been last pick quite alot lately. :roll:

Support can be fun i honestly dont mind if i have to play it
those
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those
I do this when I'm first pick
La Volpe
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La Volpe

SoG Tava wrote:

Support can be fun i honestly dont mind if i have to play it
I love to play support, but sometimes it's nice to play a other role.
Justykanna
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Justykanna

Slith wrote:

play rank at low ELO and feel the wrath of being last pick
I think I've been last pick my for all but one of my last fifteen ranked games at Bronze 1. =/

La Volpe wrote:

I find it sad that people avoid support like if it was some kind of STD.

SoG Tava wrote:

Support can be fun i honestly dont mind if i have to play it
Support just happens to be my worst role. I dunno why it's so commonly hated though. Though I agree it can be a lot of fun.
Navizel
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Navizel


Is Annie buffed? She's quite op right now. I don't really use Annie (bought her and refunded before) and I only got to play her 4 times so far
Justykanna
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Justykanna

Otonashi07 wrote:

s Annie buffed? She's quite op right now. I don't really use Annie (bought her and refunded before) and I only got to play her 4 times so far
I've seen a LOT of Annies lately, but that might just be in part of the mid-Assassins getting nerfed. =S
Maybe you're just getting really good with her? ;)
Navizel
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Navizel

Justykanna wrote:

Otonashi07 wrote:

Is Annie buffed? She's quite op right now. I don't really use Annie (bought her and refunded before) and I only got to play her 4 times so far
I've seen a LOT of Annies lately, but that might just be in part of the mid-Assassins getting nerfed. =S
Maybe you're just getting really good with her? ;)
Still having problems using her so I won't say I'm already good using her.

But she does so much damage with r+w+q+ignite even with only a doran or two
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